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Postby momopi » Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:34 pm

Jackal wrote:However, washing your hands is always important:
"Wash your hands before handling food and after using the bathroom. Washing your hands thoroughly is one of the simplest, most important ways to prevent the spread of any infection, including hepatitis."


I recommend getting the hepatitis A and B shots. They take 5 shots over 6 months to complete, so if you haven't had it, start ASAP.

There's a HSV (herpes) vaccine called Hepevac for women (only) in trials right now. It's said to be 48%-78% effective vs. HSV-2. An estimated 20% of Americans are HSV-2 positive.
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Postby momopi » Wed Apr 16, 2008 6:06 am

ladislav wrote:I lived in Thailand for three and a half years and I played it safely every weekend ( count the numbers, please) but at times, condoms would break and I would be soaked in fluids. I was scared out of my wits when I came home and went in to get tested. I tested negative for everything which was a huge relief.


There's a "morning after pill" for condom breakage avail called Post-Exposure Prophylaxis (PEP). Ideally it should be taken within the hour from time of exposure, and continue taking PEP for following 4 weeks.

Here's some info from CDC:
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwR/preview/mmwrhtml/rr5402a1.htm

Couple years ago, some folks thought it'd be a good idea to use PEP as a preventive/pre-preemptive anti-viral medication. They called it Pre-exposure prophylaxis (PrEP). Basically you start taking the medication ahead of sexual intercourse. But clinical testing could not be done because, well, most sane people wouldn't want to expose themselves to HIV.
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Postby Jackal » Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:00 am

My doctor in college recommend the Hepatitis A vaccine for all travelers. The Hep A vaccine is 2 shots that have to be given 6 months apart, although the first shot by itself does give you some protection, just not as much as having both does.

Also, most people don't realize that there is a vaccine that prevents pneumonia. If you're headed someplace very cold, it might be a good idea to get that vaccine too.
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Postby Winston » Wed Apr 16, 2008 3:53 pm

Hi folks, check out what I've been reading and watching today. I didn't know that so many scientists and doctors believed that AIDS and HIV are a myth and sham from special interests and that there was no real scientific proof that the AIDS virus even exists!

There are so many websites, books, and videos that argue this. Take a look at this list.

http://www.google.com.ph/search?hl=tl&q ... ogle&meta=

And this website lists a ton of sources:

http://www.peaceandlove.ca/AIDSsexmyth.html

Also, this two hour video I watched earlier about the myth of AIDS and HIV was compelling, and included many interviews with intelligent, articulate, well-read researchers and doctors:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 8483511310

What do you think?
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Postby Winston » Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:03 pm

Here's another interesting video that tries to debunk AIDS and HIV:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 0057553023

Description:

"This documentary is the most inclusive expose of the HIV/AID$ fraud to date. It explains how the fraud began, how it is perpetuated, and who profits by it. The program explains ten reasons why HIV CANNOT be the cause of AIDS, what the real causes could be, and why dangerous toxic drugs like AZT cause AIDS by prescription. Banned by the mainstream media, yet highly acclaimed by the informed public, this film has saved thousands of lives internationally. Recommended by scientific experts and well-informed physicians alike as an excellent informational source for the HIV/AIDS dissident movement worldwide. This program provides a systematic dissection of the AID$ industry’s utter corruption that resulted in worldwide mass genocide.

Interviewed in this program are Dr. Peter Duesberg and Dr. Charles Thomas who initiated the group for Scientific Reappraisal of HIV, along with other experts like Dr. Richard Strohman and Dr. David Rasnick, who debunk HIV mutation theories and the effectiveness of “treatmentsâ€￾ with the new protease inhibitors and DNA destroying drugs like AZT. This documentary provides the best complete analysis of these issues in any video form.

Also included in the program are CDC statistical studies, the infamous Heckler HHS press conference that invented the AID$ virus in 1984, and comments by Dr. Michael Ellner of HEAL, Christine Maggiore and Celia Farber, AIDS journalist. Much of the current controversy in South Africa and around the world over HIV as the cause of AIDS was initiated by the information presented in this video."
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Postby Winston » Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:13 pm

Here's something interesting, if true that is.

http://www.peaceandlove.ca/AIDSsexmyth.html#Sex_has

The 'Prostitute' Paradox

If 'AIDS' ('HIV') was sexually transmitted, we should find it in sex-trade workers. The following references, including five studies published in prestigious scientific journals, demonstrate no sexual transmission.

In this study, the authors estimated overall and cause-specific mortality among prostitute women. They recorded information on prostitute women identified by police and health department surveillance in Colorado Springs, Colorado, from 1967 to 1999. The authors assessed cause-specific mortality in this open cohort of 1,969 women [...]

Violence and drug use were the predominant causes of death, both during periods of prostitution and during the whole observation period. [...] Deaths from acquired immunodeficiency syndrome occurred exclusively among prostitutes who admitted to injecting drug use or were inferred to have a history of it.

Potterat J J et al. Mortality in a Long-term Open Cohort of Prostitute Women. Am J Epidemiol 2004;159:778-785.

During a 36-month period, a multidisciplinary team manned a van that visited the major location of open prostitution in the Tel Aviv area [...]

All 128 females who did not admit to drug abuse were seronegative.

A thorough search of recent literature fail to demonstrate unequivocal seropositivity among British, French, German, Italian, or Dutch prostitutes without drug histories.

Modan, B et al. Prevalence of HIV antibodies in transsexual and female prostitutes, American Journal of Public Health. 1992;82(4):590-592.

Michael Wright also report this study in A Former AIDS Researcher Has Second Thoughts, part one: Manufacturing the AIDS Scare.


In order to determine whether prostitutes operating outside of areas of high drug abuse have equally elevated rates of infection, 354 prostitutes were surveyed in Tijuana, Mexico [...]

None of the 354 [blood] samples [...] was positive for HIV-1 or HIV-2

Condoms were used [...] for less than half of their sexual contacts.

Only 4 female prostitutes (1%) admitted to ever having abused intravenous drugs.

Infection with HIV was not found in this prostitute population despite the close proximity to neighboring San Diego, CA, which has a high incidence of diagnosed cases of AIDS, and to Los Angeles, which has a reported 4% prevalence of HIV infection in prostitutes.

Hyams KC et al. HIV infection in a non-drug abusing prostitute population. Scandinavian Journal of Infectious Diseases. 1989;21(3):353-4.

David Crowe also report this study in Referenced Quotes about Transmission of HIV and AIDS.


In order to evaluate the frequency of sexual transmission of human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) among promiscuous heterosexuals, we studied the prevalence of HIV infection among a group of predominantly Caucasian call girls and women working for escort services and massage parlors in New York City. In the 78 subjects studied, the mean age was 31.6 years and the mean duration of prostitution was 5.1 years. Study participants each had a median of 200 different sexual partners in the preceding year. [...]

none of the 72 non-drug-abusers were seropositive for HIV. This study indicates that despite their promiscuity, HIV infection is still uncommon in call girls in New York City

Seidlin M et al. Prevalence of HIV infection in New York call girls. Journal of acquired immune deficiency syndromes. JAIDS, 1988;1(2):150-4


448 licensed female prostitutes in Nuremburg, West Germany, were studied in March and April 1986.

No prostitute tested was anti-HIV positive [...] they had been prostitutes for 77 months on average [...] The mean number of clients was 13 per week [...]

This heterosexually very active group of women has remained free from HIV infection.

Smith GL, Smith KF. Lack of HIV infection and condom use in licensed prostitutes. Lancet. 1986;1392.

In September, 1985, we collected 56 samples of blood in the rue Saint-Denis, the most notorious street in Paris for prostitution. [...]

No prostitute was seropositive.

These women, aged 18-60 have sexual intercourse 15-25 times daily and do not routinely use protection. Although contracting AIDS is greatly feared by these women, only 15 used condoms with all their customers.

[...] none of the Paris prostitute was a drug addict.

Brenky-Faudeux D, Fribourg-Blanc A. HTLV-III antibody in prostitutes. Lancet. 1985;2:1424.

The same results were reported from Amsterdam, one of the world's centers of legalized prostitution. When several hundred non-drug using prostitutes were studied, investigators found no HIV-positive women even though they averaged more than 200 clients per year

Coutinho RA, van der Helm TH. [No indications for LAV/HTLV-III in non-drug-using prostitutes in Amsterdam]. Ned Tijdschr Geneeskd, 1986;130(11):508. As presented by David W. Rasnick, PhD, in a letter published by the British Medical Journal Sex has nothing to do with AIDS.

We saw that sexual transmission has not been demonstrated in sex-trade workers. Of course, those who take hard drugs are more likely to become sick, it has nothing to do with 'HIV' or 'AIDS'. Strong drugs have a proven immune suppressive effect, and intravenous drugs injections often carry some foreign proteins, adding an extra burden on the immune system.

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Postby momopi » Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:49 pm

There's a dissident opinion on HIV as the cause of AIDS, they're commonly referred to as "HIV Denialists". You can Google "Reappraising AIDS" and "Rethinking AIDS" for some of their web sites.

You can read and choose if you want to believe the "general" scientific/medical community, or the minority dissident/opposition.

But the fact remains that HIV is a very unhealthy retrovirus. If you're HIV positive, many vaccines such as HBV will have as much as 50% failure rate.

Fortunately, HIV is not an easy virus to catch. The media has blown HIV to be way bigger than it actually is, while ignoring a large list of bacterial, fungal, viral, and even parasitic pathogens that are transmitted through sexual activity. Some pathogens, such as gonorrhea, has mutated to become "super bug" that is resistant to antibiotics.

So, when in doubt, always use a condom, and wash your hands with soap.
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Postby gmm567 » Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:51 am

well the hookers are not HIV positive because they use rubbers.

That doesn't mean the disease can't be spread through sex. It just means that rubbers do a good job of protecting you from transmission.
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Postby Winston » Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:58 am

gmm567 wrote:well the hookers are not HIV positive because they use rubbers.

That doesn't mean the disease can't be spread through sex. It just means that rubbers do a good job of protecting you from transmission.


W: But the article above said that most of the hookers in the studies did NOT use rubbers.
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Postby Winston » Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:07 am

momopi wrote:There's a dissident opinion on HIV as the cause of AIDS, they're commonly referred to as "HIV Denialists". You can Google "Reappraising AIDS" and "Rethinking AIDS" for some of their web sites.

You can read and choose if you want to believe the "general" scientific/medical community, or the minority dissident/opposition.

But the fact remains that HIV is a very unhealthy retrovirus. If you're HIV positive, many vaccines such as HBV will have as much as 50% failure rate.

Fortunately, HIV is not an easy virus to catch. The media has blown HIV to be way bigger than it actually is, while ignoring a large list of bacterial, fungal, viral, and even parasitic pathogens that are transmitted through sexual activity. Some pathogens, such as gonorrhea, has mutated to become "super bug" that is resistant to antibiotics.

So, when in doubt, always use a condom, and wash your hands with soap.


W: I googled "aids myth" to get those sites. Sure one can choose what to believe, but the question is, what's the truth?

Is it true that there is no proof of the existence of the HIV virus or not? How can something so simple be in dispute?

How can there be so many books and researchers that say there is no proof that HIV causes AIDS? Those people do not sound like quacks or nuts. They seem like highly intelligent, well read, and articulate serious people. You can see some of them on this video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 8483511310

They seem like people who know what they're talking about.

But then again, if they are right, how can such a massive widespread fraud exist unchecked?

And is it true that the Center for Disease Control and the National Health Institute are military organizations with no free speech and only take orders from above?

Perhaps it's one of those things that sounds valid only to those who aren't knowledgeable about the subject.
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Postby gmm567 » Thu Apr 17, 2008 4:02 am

Well, I hate to admit that I didn't read those studies through. Sorry.

But does it make any sense to you? Sex workers use rubbers. And where prostituition is legal, it is regulated. The sex workers get tested sometimes weekly.

Would they want to jeopardize their part time work /full time pay job by not using rubbers and contracting STD's and possibly getting aids too?
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Postby gmm567 » Thu Apr 17, 2008 4:07 am

Oh and by the way, my dad met a guy who works for the Center for Disease Control a ph.d. researcher on aids. The guy said......

we could definitley find a cure for aids...and it's not about getting more funding. It's getting RATS

TO BUTFUCK.


Funny.
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Postby Jackal » Thu Apr 17, 2008 6:17 am

gmm567 wrote:Well, I hate to admit that I didn't read those studies through. Sorry.

But does it make any sense to you? Sex workers use rubbers. And where prostituition is legal, it is regulated. The sex workers get tested sometimes weekly.

Would they want to jeopardize their part time work /full time pay job by not using rubbers and contracting STD's and possibly getting aids too?


I agree with Gmm567 on this one. Some people have been found to have an immunity to HIV:
http://www.accessexcellence.org/WN/SUA0 ... y_HIV.html

Maybe this characteristic was present in those hookers in the study. Also, sometimes unlikely events do happen. It's possible but not likely that 200 random strangers will meet and have the same birthday, for example.

However, a paranoid-sounding fact that I might believe about AIDS is that it was a biological weapon engineered by either the USA or the USSR. I wouldn't put it past either of these governments to make such a hideous weapon.
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Postby gmm567 » Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:28 pm

No, there is biological diversity in the genome. Some people will be resistant to any disease. Some people were immune from the black plague--most weren't.

Same with aids.
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Postby kristy_571 » Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:27 pm

gmm567 wrote:No, there is biological diversity in the genome. Some people will be resistant to any disease. Some people were immune from the black plague--most weren't.

Same with aids.


that totally makes sense.
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