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Postby Winston » December 20th, 2008, 2:57 pm

lol Maybe I am a drama queen Grunt. But you got to at least respect me for allowing free speech on here, uncensored, and being level headed, rational, and NOT delusional. Plus I put a ton of effort into this movement, and made us an international force. I am not militant though, like Man Coats or AWS, instead, I believe in bringing the truth out into the public awareness and letting the justice of that take it's own course.

I never claimed to be an angel or perfect. We all have faults. What are your faults Grunt? Do you admit to any?

Say, Grunt, when are you going to show us a picture of your wife that you glorify? I'm sure many of us are curious as to what she looks like. She must be skinny, white, innocent looking, and cute at least, right?

PS - Do you remember when AWS wanted to plan a meeting of its members at a mountain lodge in Colorado? Did that ever take place? The AWS owner's name is Chris, by the way, in case you don't know. Or at least that's what he told me.
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Postby Grunt » December 21st, 2008, 4:53 pm

You will never learn the difference between "faults" and fatal flaws. Go brush up on the Greek Tragedy concept, then get back to me.

Ya that AWS "meeting" is what locked it up for me. I openly asked why on EARTH a bunch of guys would spend thousands and thousands of dollars going to see OTHER GUYS when for the same price they could take a trip to South America or Eastern Europe. It boggles the mind and brings up some severe questions of intent.

First, half the attendees would be fags, and the other half federal agents. I can picture some AWS fruitcake in in the parking lot taking down license plate numbers and adding them to a database much like this; http://www.tennessean.com/article/20081 ... /812210392

Also, I respect my wifes right to privacy. I boast about her because I can, and offer her as an incentive to other guys to get off their dead asses and do something productive. Posting her picture would drift into drama-queen-ism, and that aint my style. Im not looking to prove myself to anyone, least of all the internet porn brigade.
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Postby mobstersreport » December 24th, 2008, 9:27 am

Well it's a good thing that I've recently am conforming to being an "Atheist". Because I believe I have happened to come across that website and the owner of it when I was still apart of a movement online many months ago.

That person is weird and paranoid. He believes that anybody that defends women and doesn't understand anything about anti-feminism is a criminal.

The type that ( if a guy watched some adult entertainment and he's there seeing you watch it ) he's the type that will tell you that it's against the lord or something and label you an automatic criminal.

Nothing but drama.

In fact! I had a mgtow person subscribe to me recently. I already knew what the web site was and what it's all about for men to go their own way and find their own happiness.

That guy of AWS even labeled the MGTOW website as "criminals" and that guys from MGTOW visit his forums to post criminal activity, trolling, flaming or are a bunch of murderers, rapists or whatever.

It's all DRAMA and schizophrenic behavior in every form, now that I look at it from this perspective.

I know it's tough on you Winston. Because you have enemies everywhere from feminists, pro-feminists, paranoid people, crazy people, people out to destroy your character and defame you everywhere online for trying to help lonely guys and more drama.

You know what I truly think about people like this folks? it's very serious in every form.

It's like these people that down Winston Wu for what he's trying to accomplish will look for ANYTHING to descredit him, mock him, defame him, or anything to him. All because he wants lonely guys to find their happiness.

I hate to vent and rant abit here folks. But I'm truly am SICK OF these jerks. They have NO LIFE but to defame Winston for trying to help lonely guys in the states and U.K. to finding their happiness in going abroad to seek their happiness.

It's like these paranoid, delusional, crazy, jealous people want to KEEP US ALL from being HAPPY in our lives to finding something to live for that wants to make people like ourselves "HAPPY". Especially when it comes to the dating scene here in the states. I'm sick and tired of jerks and a$55$holes picking on Winston all the time. When he's just trying to help lonely guys find happiness.

You jerks out there need to grow da f%#%ck up and leave Winston alone. All they do all day and night long is call Winston every name in the book and hurt his character and Winston as a human being.

These jerks and idiots make me sick and I despise people that want to keep another person or people from finding their own happiness and telling people what to do with their lives repulses me to no extent.

Anyways, yeah! I believe this person is truly insane lulz. :shock:
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Postby globetrotter » January 14th, 2010, 3:04 pm

AWS is a vengeful nutjob who will ban you and burn all your posts for no discernable reason. That said, it is 2010. In 2003 there were 12 MRA sites. Now there are 1200. So let him run his show as he wants, and if you do not like it set up your own forum. It is easy, cheap and fast in 2010.
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Postby Grunt » January 14th, 2010, 11:08 pm

You know someone is full of shit when they start a webpage in 2001 and its now 2010 and they still aint found a wife yet. Pure bullshit from top to bottom. Being banned from aws is a badge of honor, thats why all the aws drones are flooding onto this forum with their nazi shit and jew baiting.
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Postby Grunt » January 15th, 2010, 10:24 pm

When I change my icon to a swastica, then you can worry.

Winston, just ban these trolls, they serve only to create misery for all.
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Postby Adama » January 15th, 2010, 11:19 pm

Many years ago I was banned from the AWS site. Actually I think everyone has been banned from there.

A man who posts here frequently, used to describe himself as AWS's friend. That didnt stop AWS from banning him.

I disagreed with AWS over an ancillary topic of what type of men certain nationalities of women go for in another part of the world. He didnt take immediate action. A few days later he banned me.

That is a real power and control freak.

He also banned his old mods. Also men on other boards who he was friends with, posted his address, full name and personal information. This guy somehow can not maintain friendships because he needs to be the one in control and is entirely inflexible

There is one place that people who are inflexible wind up: ALONE.

He used to keep user statistics of his board on the index page (the number of registered users). I loved going there every couple of months. The member count would drop.

I imagine now this character only has 3 members on there who mirror him

I also remember that after some BS happened, he instituted a $50 fee to join. The funny part is, all those guys who paid that $50 still got banned later on.

The only bad thing about all of this is you should be ashamed if you have NOT been banned by AWS. It is a badge of honor that this [insert here] doesnt like you.

As one poster here says often, [paraphrase] "The only thing worse than being cursed by idiots is being loved and accepted by them."
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Postby Adama » January 15th, 2010, 11:27 pm

Grunt wrote:The whole AWS site was a faux-mens rights site from the beginning. With the advent of the internet, men saw a perfect medium to express their perspectives. Thus the "mens rights" community began to coalesce, almost exclusively on the internet.

As far as who or what AWS is, it could be anything from a pack of pimply linux queers trying to get in some lols, or an attempt by masonic/wiccan fruitcakes to get out in front of the mens rights movement. You can usually spot those nitwits by the "druid" motif, and yes, they are basically the same idiots that guided the feminists with their "I am the godess" trash. Their theme is always divide and conquer, infiltrate and destroy.

Or, on the more extreme end it could be a honey pot operation designed to lure men in, acquire their IP addresses, then turn them over to local monitoring groups for harassment. Google "FBI COINTELPRO" for more information on that, but know in advance that COINTELPRO was admitted to be nothing more then a suppression of any and all political views that threatened the "current political structure". And mens rights is most certainly a threat to just about every aspect of the current matriarchal political and social structure in America.

We should also note that due to some consistencies as well as inconsistencies, it is very likely that the entire AWS membership could be 3 to 4 individuals posting under different names. The admins over at the-niceguy have already admitted this is the case, at least at with their "leadership". Long story short, I may not agree with Winston. In fact, Im beginning to see him as a bit of a neurotic drama queen, but I haven't seen much of a covert agenda.

The entire mission of the mens rights movement should be education as to the reality of the average man hating, flag waving feminist. But there is little point in pointing out a problem, without considering a solution. Thus, it should also be about offering effective alternatives to decent western men. And Winston does attempt, feebly, to do that. Since I am already happily married to a wonderful foreign girl, I doubt I could do any better.


Bro, with all the technology there is today, the FBI doesnt need any make pseudo men's rights sites. They can extract information in more subtle ways.

I know you think this is another queer/FBI site, but a couple of years ago on NiceGuy (yes and I a member there also, and I remember you had 1 or 2 names, specifically the one that starts with a G but I cant remember without doing a search there), one of his former friends (Ovation??) posted ALL of his personal info. Where he lives, his real name, how he supports himself, EVERYTHING.

Of course you are going to think that was another FBI mole grab incident under a false flag.

Too bad the mods erased it right away.

Now that we have posted all this, I'm surprised he hasnt risen from the dead. Too many people he doesnt like. Wu is one of them (so am I but I keep a low profile).
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Postby globetrotter » January 16th, 2010, 4:50 am

Grunt wrote:Or, on the more extreme end it could be a honey pot operation designed to lure men in, acquire their IP addresses, then turn them over to local monitoring groups for harassment. Google "FBI COINTELPRO" for more information on that, but know in advance that COINTELPRO was admitted to be nothing more then a suppression of any and all political views that threatened the "current political structure". And mens rights is most certainly a threat to just about every aspect of the current matriarchal political and social structure in America.

We should also note that due to some consistencies as well as inconsistencies, it is very likely that the entire AWS membership could be 3 to 4 individuals posting under different names. The admins over at the-niceguy have already admitted this is the case, at least at with their "leadership". Long story short, I may not agree with Winston. In fact, Im beginning to see him as a bit of a neurotic drama queen, but I haven't seen much of a covert agenda.


I used to Mod DGM v2.0 and NG and the membership there was 900 DGM and 5,000 NG or so with 140 daily posters. They all had separate IP addresses and email registrations. You are letting your paranoia and conspiracy theories get the better of you - there ARE thousands of posters at NG, and they are NOT "3 to 4 individuals posting under different names. "

If you had run a forum and had perused logfile data you would know this to be the case.

This happens so much online, the suspicious and paranoid without experience, knowledge or the 5th+ Sigma of intelligence post some conspiracy nonsense.
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Postby Adama » January 16th, 2010, 6:18 am

globetrotter wrote:
Grunt wrote:Or, on the more extreme end it could be a honey pot operation designed to lure men in, acquire their IP addresses, then turn them over to local monitoring groups for harassment. Google "FBI COINTELPRO" for more information on that, but know in advance that COINTELPRO was admitted to be nothing more then a suppression of any and all political views that threatened the "current political structure". And mens rights is most certainly a threat to just about every aspect of the current matriarchal political and social structure in America.

We should also note that due to some consistencies as well as inconsistencies, it is very likely that the entire AWS membership could be 3 to 4 individuals posting under different names. The admins over at the-niceguy have already admitted this is the case, at least at with their "leadership". Long story short, I may not agree with Winston. In fact, Im beginning to see him as a bit of a neurotic drama queen, but I haven't seen much of a covert agenda.


I used to Mod DGM v2.0 and NG and the membership there was 900 DGM and 5,000 NG or so with 140 daily posters. They all had separate IP addresses and email registrations. You are letting your paranoia and conspiracy theories get the better of you - there ARE thousands of posters at NG, and they are NOT "3 to 4 individuals posting under different names. "

If you had run a forum and had perused logfile data you would know this to be the case.

This happens so much online, the suspicious and paranoid without experience, knowledge or the 5th+ Sigma of intelligence post some conspiracy nonsense.


I respect Grunt and his experience. However, he is very paranoid. I am too, to some extent, and I find many of his socialism explanations plausible.

I am anti Gov too, being a Libertarian (in theory). It's just that, for one, the Gov let him import a wife and granted her a green card/passport knowing he posts here. The Gov let me get a license in a professional field. I always thought they'd sabotage my computer.

Turns out we are small fish. They dont give a f**k.

If we were on TV reaching millions it would be a different matter. Then you'd be a target.

Despite some of the above statistics, most men dont think AWs suck. And if you brought it up, they'd want to kick your ass. Grunt you say this yourself when you say the men didnt bother to ask you how to find a hot wife. They believe AWs are supreme.

For me, I think it is better to leave most American men in the Matrix of AWs, no matter how much empathy. Then maybe you will see the involvement you are paranoid about.

Keep in mind we are not selling illegal drugs, engaging in other illegal acts, or anything warranting fed attention.

I know what Police attention is. When I was young I had a hot rod. The local cops sent a pair of teenage blondes to my place using my name begging for drugs. I never met them. But i heard about it. And there was a cop car sitting outside of my house daily. All cause I had a nice $4000 German sports car that figured I cheated them on taxes on, that costs $60,000 brand new.

So you are paranoid. The Fed doesnt need online agents. They can just call Comcast, Optimum, Time Warner, Verizon to get your IP, address, former posts, etc. There is no need for interacting with you.
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Postby Grunt » January 19th, 2010, 6:28 am

I escaped from the loony bin, then became a federal agent.
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Postby Winston » June 2nd, 2010, 5:19 pm

AWS has changed its name to Ghost Nation now. What a strange name for a Men's anti feminist site.

http://theghostnation.com/

Their new forum

http://www.theghostnation.com/forums/index.php?/index

Their collection of best anti feminist rants

http://www.theghostnation.com/forums/fo ... ist-rants/
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Good change in my case! - very OT

Postby adam917 » June 2nd, 2010, 7:19 pm

Good. I have AWS ingrained in my head for the last 2 years as meaning 'Advanced Wireless Services' which is the name assigned to some frequency spectrum running on approx 2100 MHz downlink & 1700 MHz uplink in the US & Canada (kinda like we have PCS which is named for the older 1900 MHz band in use here).
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Postby outcastsuperstar » June 16th, 2010, 11:09 pm

AWS is at it again and since he kicked off Winston I will provide the link and copy and paste the material that he wrote.

http://www.theghostnation.com/forums/in ... -overseas/

AWS writes

Hey WWU777

You are that way because you are a despicable human being who is worse then any Aw in femerica. You only are accepted at the SAD niceguy/mgtow forum where the homos and zionists put up with your lameness.

WWU777 is the clown that has been banned from Russia for his hassling women (especially young girls) over there. You have been $%^&^%$ banned 5 $%^&^%$ times yet you still spam my site. You $%^&^%$ loser. You made up lies about AWS that were inexcusable and will never be forgotten. Well, guess what bitch...you are banned again on this site just like you were on the American Women Suck site. You are an admitted rectal sodomite, atheist, adulterer, Christian hater, spammer and it was you who stalked a Russian girl who was obviously way too young. You are an obsessive/compulsive dweeb like all mgtow SADs are. She looked maybe 14 and you called her "fresh" while enticing her to come to your apartment. All of it is on video. I hope her dad finds you one day loser. She told you she was too young yet you still hassled her.

Stay the hell away from this place. We don't accept dweebs and SADs like you. Go with your mgtow loser friends and $%*% each other in the $#@ like you do to the prostitutes that hate your guts loser WWu.

You bashed AWS with total lies. AWS is the nicest person you will ever meet in your pathetic and miserable life yet you decided make up stuff about him anyway. Now AWS has real friends who are 100% anti-feminist and payback is a bitch. Stay the away from here.

Here is the dweebs ip:

61.60.250.225
Taiwan Chia-i Chia-i Shyh-shin Catv Group Co.ltd


Did you get kicked out of the Philippines loser? Don't ever come on any site that AWS is on you pathetic piece of (*&^.

WWu has a wife and kid that he abandoned in the Philippines. His only friends are mgtow dorks. Why don't you lick feminist stargazer's $#@ WWu? He loves him some feminist jews, negros, asians and SADs that is for sure. He only hangs out with sodomites like you WWu now so you should email him. He will beg for your phone number like a SAD feminist dork which is right down your alley WWu.


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I've seen WWU77's website "H**pier Abr**d" and I've seen his photo albums, most of the time it seems he is stalking/ hassling women for sex and posting photos and movies of what he does. Some of these women appear to be or are underage. I originally thought that he was a bit off but did have a few good points on dating overseas, but now I see that he is dork, needing for attention. Most, if not 99.9% of these women turn him away because they know he is a loser but they are being too polite about it. In the past I subscribed to his newsletter because I thought his site was a legitimate "marriage abroad" site, but now I can see through him. I thought his newsletter were junk and marked them as such, but I still receive them. YouTube banned him for a reason, he was posting videos of his exploits for all to see.

After I kept getting his newsletters, I looked into things, his web page was linked from the "Mirror of the Soul" site, which explains everything. If he doesn't have any friends and is dateless like he claims then he has problems. I am a lone wolf/lone shark and I still make friends and have women interested in me. The reason he is dateless is two reasons. The first is what AWS said above, the second is that he doesn't know how to talk to North American women.

I, in no way socialize with homos, sodomites MRA, MGTOW or Zionists. The scary thing is that this dweeb has my email, big mistake signing onto his newsletter. If he is as low as you say he is I just hope he doesn't contact me on this site. He will still probably fill my email with junk and do his best to find my real name.

On a side note I don't need someone like WWU777 or some pickup artist telling me how to pickup women.

AWS writes

He has no access to any of your private info. I banned him at the ip level. He has been banned from this site and the previous site many times. If he is going to bash me he has to be truthful about it. I have a lot of quirks so there is plenty to legitimately razz me about. What I don't tolerate is outright lies about this forum or myself. I am leaving his name up for people to see but he has no access to his account here.

For people who really are anti-feminist this site is not strict at all. This site is actually a bit boring because I like peace and quiet.

WWu has been told many times to stay away which means he is a confirmed stalker like most SADs and mgtow losers are. Him and his goons have sent enormous amounts of spam. I think that is how he makes his living. He gets away with it because he is overseas. All the SADs in mgtow like him.

I got duped by him at first. Then I realized he was going overseas to date prostitutes because that is the only way he could get females to sleep with him. He had to pay for all the sex. He also admitted to sodomizing prostitutes which is another thing most mgtow like to do.

I also saw the YouTube videos and some of the women he was soliciting for paid sex looked to be way under 18. After I saw the YouTube videos he was banned for life from any of my sites even though he was booted for email spamming many times prior to that. It was the YouTube videos and sodomizing prostitutes that got him banned. Pretty sick stuff IMO.

Basically reading WWu stuff is a manual on how to be a despicable sleazeball who is hated around the world is how I see it.

The biggest debate arising from this site is whether or not hanging out with dirtbags makes one a dirtbag himself. I say yes it does.

This site has always had a small group of members. Thousands of people have been dropped from this forum. Still, we have a lot of members. Most just read the forum which is fine. I have made this forum so posters who stay on are much smarter then I am. This is done on purpose so I can better myself daily here. WWu does not come within miles of having what it takes to be a member here. His YouTube videos were the last straw. One young girl he was soliciting looked absolutely terrified of him. I would bet that the Russian authorities would like to get a hold of him and same with the fathers of some of the young girls he solicited for sex. He gives all Americans a bad name and has managed to make Aw look respectable compared to him and that is very difficult to do.

Every single strict rule here is because of people like WWu, stargazer and their mgtow pals. WWu has been told numerous times not to post here.

For those active members who post here consider yourselves the best and brightest men on any forum.

There is only one admin here and that is me. I am and have always been straight, believe in God, never engaged in *&^%$# sex, no drugs, limited alcohol, I don't travel much but I am saving to retire overseas, I actually like womyn just not the feminist ones, I don't have problems getting dates but the quality in femerica is so bad that I don't date much. I do like to hang out with pretty anti-feminist womyn but I will not get married in femerica.

I have traveled overseas but do not post pics here for security reasons. I have not been to Russia because it's too expensive. I have been to South America and I like Colombia the best.

From Winnipeg writes

One of the first things that MGTOW and other MRA sites like to do is bash marriage and women. In my opinion they are just misogynists, but that is just the way I see it. One thing I notice is that these sites get very little traffic. They probably get very little traffic because people can see through them. Another thing I notice is all the homo stuff they post.

One question I have is this. Did WWU777 really abandon his wive and child in the Philippines and did he get banned from Russia? If he did then that is pretty despicable.

AWS writes

He has a wife and kid in the Philippines which is confirmed. He still sleeps with prostitutes which he posted himself. When he posted here his adress was from Taiwan so he probably skipped out on his wife and kid. Not sure if he is banned from Russia. I do know he does not go back because a lot of Russians want to kick his $#@. I know some of the fathers of the girls he solicited are after him. Not sure if he is officially banned from Russia though.

He has been banned from this site 3 times. When he moves he gets a new ip and spams the forum here. He was booted from American Women Suck a few times as well.

The only site to get massive amounts of traffic is Henry Makow's site. His site gets more traffic then all of the mgtow sites combined. We still get a lot of visitors but our rate is about the same for two years now except we are mostly whites here now. Basically if posters are straight and believe in God they find this forum and stay members a long time. If members are in any way feminist they go to other forums.

WWu has long since been the laughing stalk of the Internet. The videos were gross and he is not welcome anywhere here that is for sure.

Mgtow is a group of male feminists comprised mostly of gay males, negros, zionist males or extremely misogynistic males. They all fight like girls and use treachery as their main weapon.

AWS also writes

If you want to know what he is really like just go here: http://www.winston-wu.com/

That is the real wwu. No wonder mgtow like him so much. He is the asian version of stargazer.

From Winnipeg writes

I saw that website, he is disgusting. Did you see the pictures of him in women's makeup? Why would any man want to wear makeup for? Then again he does have links to the MGTOW crowd and other MRA's. Those homo's probably adore him for what he is.

On a side note, have you seen sites such as Mirror of the soul, Men are Better than Women and JTest 28? A few good anti feminist points on these sites but more often than not they lean towards the MGTOW point of view and some are rather misogynistic.

AWS writes

Because he is an admitted sodomite he gets kudos from mgtow. It may seem odd that I keep mentioning it but if a man engages in rectal sodomy with anyone he is gay and usually a raging heterophobe. The goon bragged about sodomizing crack addicted prostitutes and then not paying them. Then I saw some of his YouTube videos and it all made sense. Mgtow has always been for treacherous low lifes with violent sexual inclinations usually of the homo kind. Wwu was quickly embraced by mgtow and lavished with positive remarks from the homos and Christan haters in mgtow.

JTest 28 was one of the first members here but we had a huge falling out. Mgtow devised a plan to get personal info from him and get him banned from this site. They knew he was a long time member here so they offered him a moderator position on the niceguy/mgtow site. I kept telling him not to surround himself with evil and that they were using him for information about Ukraine. I told him mgtow was a bunch of homos/sodomites and that it looked bad for him when he posted there. WWu is mgtow times a hundred but Jtest 28 loved to post there as well. Wwu used him as well to get info about Ukraine travel. Because Jtest was surrounding himself with homos/evil after I told him not to I no longer wanted to associate with him. When he became a mod on niceguy's mgtow site that was the last straw. If people can't tell mgtow is for homos/misogynists/losers then there is something wrong with them. I don't mind being razzed but I do not associate with anyone who knowingly posts on SAD sites like wwu's and niceguy's site. JTest says when one surrounds himself with evil that does not make that person evil and I disagree. JTest has a really good site but I don't condone the mgtow links or some of his SAD associations at all. I asked him to take down any references to this site on his site because he was sending the mgtow crowd here and they all would get banned.

Men are Better than Women is an awesome site. Here is how it came about. I was asked to do a television show years ago by Dr. Phill's producer. I said no way. I will say that Dr. Phill's producer is a very polite and professional man but his audience is not the type that would enjoy hearing what I have to say. The guy that runs Men are Better than Women took the gig and did a fantastic job. His site gained huge amounts of popularity after him appearing on the show.

Mirror of the Soul is another great site and a must read. The Internet basically comes down to sites that are for straights that believe in God or those that have turned away from and practice sadistic rituals. We have been battling mgtow for years now but in the long run the real anti-feminists won because Makow's site gets huge amounts of traffic and it's the best anti-feminist site on earth.

Our forum is a niche forum. Our forum is calm. I definitely have some quirks but they are easy to know and posters can adjust accordingly. I have zero tolerance for male homos and sodomites. I don't consider a bj sodomy just the other one unless it's two men doing it.

I agree with your assessment of the three sites. Just they do lean at times to misogyny which is encouraged on the very zionist and SAD mgtow sites.
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Postby globetrotter » June 17th, 2010, 6:28 am

AWS is a total nutjob.

He is not worth thinking about or discussing, ever.

Just look at his insane verbiage:

Zionists, SAD's, sodomites and gang-stalking (my favorite).

He is so far gone that when he gets a large spike of traffic, ONLINE, he thinks that people are STALKING HIM.

He is totally nuts.
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