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How come guys don't discuss the difficult US dating scene?Moderators: fschmidt, jamesbond Thanks for that graph. Scary stuff it is. But it doesn't surprise me. I also noticed that areas with a lot of blacks will shift the ratio more to women. This is because blacks have a different birth ratio than others do. More like 50/50 boys/girls than other races. Plus, black guys get killed off fast or go to prison. Anyway, just wanted to point out the gender ratio problem is therefore even greater than what the graph shows.
I wonder what such a graph for Eastern Europe would look like. . . Some guys actually can get laid very easily. I have such friends and am like that as well. But getting dates, and especially getting girlfriends in the USA is mission impossible. The trend for young women is to not date anyone unless you just get so lonely, you can't help it anymore. Then you date for three weeks and then dump the guy after you start feeling wanted. Then you run around and tell all your friends how bad he was, etc. They in turn will give boatloads of sympathy. The other trend I have seen hit my city is to date only thuggy black men. And let me tell you, if you're a white man, you can just go ahead and forget about getting a white girlfriend. Check out our Dating Sites and International Romance Tours! Special Offer! FREE 6 Month Membership on ForeignWomen.com! Sign up here. Find Your Foreign Sweetheart Now! Try our international Dating Sites and Overseas Romance Tours!
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There's no reliable stats on dating. But demographic data shows that if you want to marry a young American white women, the odds are against you. Consider this demographic data:
White American women Age 20-24: Had married: 23.2% Never married: 76.8% Age 25-29: Had married: 58.8% Never married: 41.2% Age 30-34: Had married: 78.9% Never married: 21.1% So, if you're looking to marry an American white girl between the ages of 20-24, the girl is only 23.2% likely to marry within that age group. This is an overall % and doesn't reflect individuals, of course. Nor would I recommend marrying young, which is more prone to divorce. If you're not interested in marriage and just want sex, then the stats are irrelevent. All you need is some $$ and access to the internet, or travel abroad. Countless numbers of women in the US and abroad await you and are willing to sleep with you for a "tip", or free if she likes you enough. Source: 2008 US Census Data Jtest: I don't have census data for E. Europe, but here's an article on former East Germany: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6713121.stm This is very true for the USA in general. I have nothing against white women being with non white men. But I refuse to live in a country where being white is a liability, pure and simple. Unfortunately with racist countries in east europe who are partial to white men, at least the women will be attracted to you and date you. Guys don't talk about the terrible US scene because they are in denial. They believe all the lies women have told them e.g. "its not you its me" or "I just want to be friends." Guys don't wake up until they hit at least 30, then they take years to analyse things. By the time they are 50 they head off overseas or give up on the US scene. That's why the dating scene isn't discussed as awake guys have fled like rats off a sinking ship.
I'm not sure if women are a "disease", but they clearly have all the power and KNOW it, so unless you are the top 20% kind of guy, you'll likely get nowhere. Please don't sit and endlessly debate what the top 20% is, as its spelled out on TV, magazines....Fighting amongst ourselves is only giving girls more power. We should be taking the power back from them - getting rid of feminist laws, etc. "Woman is a violent and uncontrolled animal... If you allow them to achieve complete equality with men, do you think they will be easier to live with? Not at all. Once they have achieved equality, they will be your masters." Cato the Elder
Well I'm glad you see my point. But I do not think that my cousin's marriage will have many problems. He is a very square person, and so is his bride probably. This means they always do what's right, live within narrow proper boundaries as though it were second nature to them, and are very NONselfish. He is boring and narrow yeah, but deep down he is a good and kind person, like most Taiwanese are. And he is very picky about who he marries, so he would obviously marry someone of the same nature as himself. When you have two prim and proper square people that have no independent opinions of their own, there isn't much that can go wrong. They are likely to work hard, always do the right thing, etc. These are very stable and unselfish types. They rarely get divorced. But their lives and personalities are boring as hell, so I wouldn't want to be them either. Check out my fun video clips in Russia and video series Female Encounters of the Foreign Kind and Full Russia Trip Videos!
See my HA Ebook and Join Our Dating Sites to support us! "It takes far less effort to find and move to the society that has what you want than it does to try to reconstruct an existing society to match your standards." - Harry Browne, How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World We are discussing it here, but we're the exception, and that's the point. If you go to the other expat sites like expatexchange.com or transitionsabroad.com or others at http://www.happierabroad.com/ebook/Page90.htm , you will not find guys discussing the difficult US date scene for men on their forums. Why is that? Cause it's taboo and not something you're supposed to do. This is not a world where anything goes and everything that's true can be uttered without consequence or resistance. No way. Truth is often censored and spun. People do not even respect truth as the highest ideal. Patriotism, pride, loyalty, upholding cherished beliefs, power and money, etc. are often put ahead of truth when there is a conflict with the truth. What kind of work environment are you speaking of where guys can discuss the difficult US dating scene? In a typical office environment, in the coffee break room, you are only allowed to discuss lighthearted subjects such as weather, sports, what you did over the weekend, headline news, etc. You do not talk about taboo subjects or think outside the box in office conversations. No way. Two guys who are close friends and know each other well can discuss such things. But these are not topics you bring up with your typical neighbor next door or fellow office worker that you only have working relationships with. Venting may be a waste of time, but it's a form of release and validation that you're not alone. Check out my fun video clips in Russia and video series Female Encounters of the Foreign Kind and Full Russia Trip Videos!
See my HA Ebook and Join Our Dating Sites to support us! "It takes far less effort to find and move to the society that has what you want than it does to try to reconstruct an existing society to match your standards." - Harry Browne, How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World So true and good points. The people at SoSuave agree with us about the horrible dating scene in the US for men, but once you tell them about the abroad option, they get angry and condemn you for dating whores. Just bring it up on the sosuave forum and you will see. People hate what's outside their comfort zone and can't think objectively about it. This site is unique and so are the topics on this forum. You are right that most of the guys on this forum who are not already abroad have financial restraints holding them back, otherwise they'd be overseas dating women and not here talking about it. lol There's also a fear of the unknown factor as well. Plus, a lot of people have no budgeting or planning skills and simply squander every income they have without even thinking twice about it, thus never saving up anything. Check out my fun video clips in Russia and video series Female Encounters of the Foreign Kind and Full Russia Trip Videos!
See my HA Ebook and Join Our Dating Sites to support us! "It takes far less effort to find and move to the society that has what you want than it does to try to reconstruct an existing society to match your standards." - Harry Browne, How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World Well to my knowledge he never dated. But he could have and just kept quiet about it. I am not close enough to him to ask him about his private life either. When we see each other, we just humor each other and be nice. We don't talk about controversial things. And of course, if I have health related questions, he is always glad to answer them. But he is a strict follower and conformist and has no opinions on anything outside the box. Very square too, but kind and helpful at least. But remember he's only 5ft 3 too, so that alone disqualifies him from the majority of women's criteria. So he is lucky to find someone tall and beautiful who loves him for him and is working in the healthcare field as well. Things like that happen once in a lifetime or once in many years. I looked up the Yuanfen definition, and it might be true for him. I think the concept refers to people who do not try to make things happen but just lets it happen naturally through natural connections. Is that right? That sounds like it could be him. I don't get people like that though. How are some guys able to go without sex or women for so long and not complain? How do they turn off their hormones and desires like a light switch? Me and other guys like me cannot do that at all. I asked this question to DiscoProJoe once and he said "CAUSE I'M NOT YOU WINSTON!" LOL Check out my fun video clips in Russia and video series Female Encounters of the Foreign Kind and Full Russia Trip Videos!
See my HA Ebook and Join Our Dating Sites to support us! "It takes far less effort to find and move to the society that has what you want than it does to try to reconstruct an existing society to match your standards." - Harry Browne, How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World How can that be though, when the media and Hollywood portray the sporty looking white male as the ideal image that everyone wants? Check out my fun video clips in Russia and video series Female Encounters of the Foreign Kind and Full Russia Trip Videos!
See my HA Ebook and Join Our Dating Sites to support us! "It takes far less effort to find and move to the society that has what you want than it does to try to reconstruct an existing society to match your standards." - Harry Browne, How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World
You said it yourself Winston. Only the "sporty looking white male" is desired. This means being in the 18-35 demographic and attractive or rich to boot. This leaves quite a few average joe white guys out in the cold. I've heard this complaint as well. The average joes can date frumpy or plain jane white women but the problem is there is a severe shortage of attractive white women in the U.S. The attractive ones are constantly fought over hot commodities out there which leads to the bitchy attitude you see most of the time. [/b] I wish hot women in the US would fight over me! LOL ![]() ![]() Because they're picky. Yeah, I get women checking me out alot. But they also expect me to be able to mack on them like a black guy does, and that's just not me. So they lose interest. That's why I think I get so many women wanting to get laid with me, because they see me as not good enough, socially anyway, to date. So even though a man may match to a great degree some of the things a woman wants, he had better match all the criteria, or else he's still stays alone.
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