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Postby Master2 » Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:12 am

ladislav wrote:
Ok, so what do we do for a living in those countries? How do we help the locals if we don't go there with millions of dollars to create jobs with our businesses? If you're poor what do you do?


You try and work online, become a writer, teach English. And the locals will appreciate one on one help. Every little bit helps. Resettling in other countries is not a short term plan and does not happen overnight. And some locals will benefit from a few hundred dollars if you pay for school, etc.


How does one become a writer and actually eat in a foreign country? Teaching English is a farce as many people know unless you have a Master's degree in English with at least two years experience. Pay for what school? Is this good advice to give to someone before they just shove off to a foreign country? Should they have something to fall back on in case things go south? What about your friends who committed suicide in Thailand when they ran out of options? Shouldn't you mention these things before advising people on giving up everything to go abroad?
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Postby Master2 » Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:53 am

Winston wrote:Alright. It's done. Gordon has been banned.

After thinking about it, my gut instinct told me that it was the right and wise thing to do, in the long term interests of this site and everyone here.

In the future, I suggest that you all just ignore people that you don't like who pop in here. They feed off of the friction you give them, so as long as you don't feed it, they will slowly dissipate.

As to Master (aka sexybeast), I think we should just keep him on for now. If you find his posts juvenile and trashy, then just ignore him and scroll through his posts. You have that choice.

Gordon, I suggest you post on the forum here:

http://www.stormfront.org/forum

Now that is a site that would welcome your views.

This is a good site too for interested readers:
http://www.chimpout.com/forum/index.php

and the upcoming problems in Canada:
http://www.chimpout.com/forum/showthread.php?t=98648
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Postby Master2 » Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:58 am

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gmm567 wrote:hey, I say let him stay. So he goes against the mainstream view. There is a lot of truth in what he says.

So it's not politically correct? So what. Neither are you Winston, but there is a lot of truth in what you say, too.


This isn't about being politically incorrect. It's very obvious by now that I am no defender of political correctness.

This isn't just about racism either.

This is about:

1. Neo Nazism - an extreme form of white supremacy that advocates violence, race wars and even murder sometimes. Gordon has a nazi swastika on his avatar. Usually your avatar reflects who you are on the inside. And he seems to have neo nazi views. This site should not support violent movements. Just cause we advocate political incorrectness here doesn't mean that anything goes. There are lines to be crossed too.
2. Attacks and name calling other members of the forum who are black or colored. Gordon has attacked many black members of this forum with vicious language and name calling. This should be a supportive atmosphere, not a hostile one. Attacking other forum members solely cause of their race is way crossing the line, don't you think?

So you see, this goes far beyond political incorrectness or having racist views. Races are different, so describing these differences is not necessarily a hateful act. For instance, in school Asian students tend to do best in math, getting straight A's. Any teacher in a multicultural classroom will tell you this. Doctors will also tell you that Asians get ulcers more than white people do. Pointing these percentages and patterns out is not necessarily racist in a hateful way. It's merely an observation. One can express such observations in a civil manner. But name calling other forum members and attacking them here, solely cause of the color of their skin, is extremely disruptive, hostile and crossing the line. Isn't that obvious?

Do you see the big picture now?


I see. So having a defensive point of view when whites are attacked by non-whites then it is called "Neo Nazism". I thought this site was a little more high brow than I thought, but who am I to guess from a site that attracts not very educated people - like Grunt.

We'll just let non-whites berate whites since that is the politically correct way to do things on this forum.

Let's be honest: Calling people "Nazi" because they are defending their race is low class. You are no different from some ghetto nigger or white trash piece of shit or some Irish low life. Let's at least have an argument for our views. Neo Nazism? That's pathetic and stupid.

The "color of skin" argument is also stupid and counterproductive. There are differences in the races. It's in the genes with different behaviors and thinking patterns and intelligence levels. I don't think the Taiwanese are going to accept black Haitians into their country anytime soon. They are racist like all the Chinese and the Koreans and Japanese, Thai, etc. , and that's why they don't like foreigners coming into their countries but I have the feeling that Winston will never bring that elephant into the room. Maybe he's going to "save face" by not even bringing up the subject. We'll just bring up the white neo nazi racist bastards instead. It's more popular, especially in Western countries. Gee, I wonder why. Could it be that it's because the non-whites have something to lose by letting on that they are leeching off of whites in Western countries? I wonder if that is what is going on. Duh..
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Postby Master2 » Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:04 am

Winston wrote:Alright. It's done. Gordon has been banned.

After thinking about it, my gut instinct told me that it was the right and wise thing to do, in the long term interests of this site and everyone here.

In the future, I suggest that you all just ignore people that you don't like who pop in here. They feed off of the friction you give them, so as long as you don't feed it, they will slowly dissipate.

As to Master (aka sexybeast), I think we should just keep him on for now. If you find his posts juvenile and trashy, then just ignore him and scroll through his posts. You have that choice.

Gordon, I suggest you post on the forum here:

http://www.stormfront.org/forum

Now that is a site that would welcome your views.


Yeah, suggest Stormfront. That's the knee jerk reaction for everyone who doesn't have a legitimate argument for their beliefs. That's a low blow but I don't expect anything more from a low brow low intellectual site as this. This site caters to non-whites and particularly black sympathizers. In these dark ages this will last until .... times change.
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Postby Winston » Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:22 am

zboy1 wrote:Gordan should not have been banned for his views. Many of his racialist thinking are prevalent in society, but they are not expressed because of fear of retribution and political correctness. As an Asian subjected to much racism in America, I can understand his anger at the racial divisions apparent in this country. I even have Black and Hispanic friends who harbor similar racialist thinking. Yes, his posts were offensive, but contained many truths. I would reinstate Gordan to this forum--only if he promised not to attack other people. I think that is what aggravated most people here, not his racist views.


I already said, he wasn't banned for his views. He was banned for attacking other members, especially black ones, without provocation, merely for their race. And for overly aggressive behavior. It's not whether there is truth in his words or not. It's his behavior that was truly disruptive.

He will not promise not to attack people. I already tried that long ago, many times. He could not make that promise nor could he keep it. He could not change. He even admitted that he can't change, in this thread.
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Postby Winston » Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:31 am

Master2 wrote:
ladislav wrote:
Ok, so what do we do for a living in those countries? How do we help the locals if we don't go there with millions of dollars to create jobs with our businesses? If you're poor what do you do?


You try and work online, become a writer, teach English. And the locals will appreciate one on one help. Every little bit helps. Resettling in other countries is not a short term plan and does not happen overnight. And some locals will benefit from a few hundred dollars if you pay for school, etc.


How does one become a writer and actually eat in a foreign country? Teaching English is a farce as many people know unless you have a Master's degree in English with at least two years experience. Pay for what school? Is this good advice to give to someone before they just shove off to a foreign country? Should they have something to fall back on in case things go south? What about your friends who committed suicide in Thailand when they ran out of options? Shouldn't you mention these things before advising people on giving up everything to go abroad?


It is not a farce. Many do it. Even without a degree, you can still teach at smaller schools in small towns that need people. Or you can teach privately. Ladislav is not telling anyone what to do. Going abroad is a decision YOU have to make. He is just giving some constructive advice for those who have already made that suggestion. No one can tell another what to do cause every situation and person is different with different needs and different paths, destiny and karma.

Why did you create another account? What's the point of having a Master2?
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Postby Winston » Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:36 am

Master2 wrote:
Winston wrote:
gmm567 wrote:hey, I say let him stay. So he goes against the mainstream view. There is a lot of truth in what he says.

So it's not politically correct? So what. Neither are you Winston, but there is a lot of truth in what you say, too.


This isn't about being politically incorrect. It's very obvious by now that I am no defender of political correctness.

This isn't just about racism either.

This is about:

1. Neo Nazism - an extreme form of white supremacy that advocates violence, race wars and even murder sometimes. Gordon has a nazi swastika on his avatar. Usually your avatar reflects who you are on the inside. And he seems to have neo nazi views. This site should not support violent movements. Just cause we advocate political incorrectness here doesn't mean that anything goes. There are lines to be crossed too.
2. Attacks and name calling other members of the forum who are black or colored. Gordon has attacked many black members of this forum with vicious language and name calling. This should be a supportive atmosphere, not a hostile one. Attacking other forum members solely cause of their race is way crossing the line, don't you think?

So you see, this goes far beyond political incorrectness or having racist views. Races are different, so describing these differences is not necessarily a hateful act. For instance, in school Asian students tend to do best in math, getting straight A's. Any teacher in a multicultural classroom will tell you this. Doctors will also tell you that Asians get ulcers more than white people do. Pointing these percentages and patterns out is not necessarily racist in a hateful way. It's merely an observation. One can express such observations in a civil manner. But name calling other forum members and attacking them here, solely cause of the color of their skin, is extremely disruptive, hostile and crossing the line. Isn't that obvious?

Do you see the big picture now?


I see. So having a defensive point of view when whites are attacked by non-whites then it is called "Neo Nazism". I thought this site was a little more high brow than I thought, but who am I to guess from a site that attracts not very educated people - like Grunt.

We'll just let non-whites berate whites since that is the politically correct way to do things on this forum.

Let's be honest: Calling people "Nazi" because they are defending their race is low class. You are no different from some ghetto nigger or white trash piece of shit or some Irish low life. Let's at least have an argument for our views. Neo Nazism? That's pathetic and stupid.

The "color of skin" argument is also stupid and counterproductive. There are differences in the races. It's in the genes with different behaviors and thinking patterns and intelligence levels. I don't think the Taiwanese are going to accept black Haitians into their country anytime soon. They are racist like all the Chinese and the Koreans and Japanese, Thai, etc. , and that's why they don't like foreigners coming into their countries but I have the feeling that Winston will never bring that elephant into the room. Maybe he's going to "save face" by not even bringing up the subject. We'll just bring up the white neo nazi racist bastards instead. It's more popular, especially in Western countries. Gee, I wonder why. Could it be that it's because the non-whites have something to lose by letting on that they are leeching off of whites in Western countries? I wonder if that is what is going on. Duh..


I didn't say that anyone who attacks minorities is a Nazi. You are making things up.

Gordon has espoused nazi like beliefs. He even had a Nazi swastika in his avatar. As you know, an avatar reflects something about you. He also condones violence against minorities, which has been implied from his posts.
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Postby ladislav » Tue Jan 26, 2010 12:23 am

How does one become a writer and actually eat in a foreign country? Teaching English is a farce as many people know unless you have a Master's degree in English with at least two years experience. Pay for what school? Is this good advice to give to someone before they just shove off to a foreign country? Should they have something to fall back on in case things go south? What about your friends who committed suicide in Thailand when they ran out of options? Shouldn't you mention these things before advising people on giving up everything to go abroad?


It all takes a bit of time and planning. Rome was not built in one day. I have a friend now, though, who without a degree went to China and is teaching.He has also taught in Mexico. Those guys who went to Thailand and committed suicide did not plan. They should have had an American Express card at least. Those contingency plans have to be made. One does not just jump into those countries without a bit of planning. They'd be fools if they did that, and some are. My advice was general. Let the people take specific steps and research before they go. There is a way, but it needs to be thought out. And some time needs to be taken to cool-headedly prepare for the whole thing and have an escape/return route in case things go sour. And why Thailand? They could have gone to Mexico first.
Becoming a writer takes time as well. They should spend at least a year in the USA setting something up and then going. There are many sites online where writing jobs are advertised. It is just that you do not start making money right away. Time is a factor.
Good jobs in Saudi require degrees but not necessarily run of the mill smaller jobs in other countries.
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Postby globetrotter » Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:37 am

Master2 wrote:
ladislav wrote:
Ok, so what do we do for a living in those countries? How do we help the locals if we don't go there with millions of dollars to create jobs with our businesses? If you're poor what do you do?


You try and work online, become a writer, teach English. And the locals will appreciate one on one help. Every little bit helps. Resettling in other countries is not a short term plan and does not happen overnight. And some locals will benefit from a few hundred dollars if you pay for school, etc.


How does one become a writer and actually eat in a foreign country? Teaching English is a farce as many people know unless you have a Master's degree in English with at least two years experience. Pay for what school? Is this good advice to give to someone before they just shove off to a foreign country? Should they have something to fall back on in case things go south? What about your friends who committed suicide in Thailand when they ran out of options? Shouldn't you mention these things before advising people on giving up everything to go abroad?


Not true. Like 95% of all men on MRA and expat boards you post and write but do not act.

I live in China. I am 48. I do not have an MA in TESOL like ladislav, I do not have 2 years experience. I get paid $1,000 a month in China to teach English to 16 year olds. I work 9 months of the year, 14 hours a week. I live in an 800 sq ft house with 5 rooms and all rent and utilities are paid for. Food and other items cost me about $90 a month, so I have 90% of my income to save and spend on travel during my time off. This month I will visit another expat buddy in Shanghai, then take the bullet train to Hong Kong, see that city, then head to the warm south and a beach so that I do not freeze my ass off all February.

I will work here one year, then move on to another job that pays twice as much with fewer benefits but I can save $1,500 a month. Then another certification, then ME, oil rotation or big money tutoring businessmen in a big Chinese mega city and earn $35,000 USD a huge sum in Asia. After a year or two of that I will have enough money to sit on a beach somewhere for as long as I can stand it until I get bored and then need to work to break up the monotony of too much leisure.

Sounds nice, right?

Did I mention the 22 year old 'friend' I just made? That the assistants encourage us to date the older (17) students? You see my point, yes?

Your negativity is unwarranted and simply not fact nor reality based. You CAN teach ESL without a BEd. or MA in App Ling. Heck you do not even need a degree. In parts of rural freeze your ass off, out of the way, China they hire 17 year old Russians to teach English. Dutch, Poles and other none natives with out so much as a credit of college.
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Postby Master2 » Fri Jan 29, 2010 8:47 am

Winston wrote:
Master2 wrote:
ladislav wrote:
Ok, so what do we do for a living in those countries? How do we help the locals if we don't go there with millions of dollars to create jobs with our businesses? If you're poor what do you do?


You try and work online, become a writer, teach English. And the locals will appreciate one on one help. Every little bit helps. Resettling in other countries is not a short term plan and does not happen overnight. And some locals will benefit from a few hundred dollars if you pay for school, etc.


How does one become a writer and actually eat in a foreign country? Teaching English is a farce as many people know unless you have a Master's degree in English with at least two years experience. Pay for what school? Is this good advice to give to someone before they just shove off to a foreign country? Should they have something to fall back on in case things go south? What about your friends who committed suicide in Thailand when they ran out of options? Shouldn't you mention these things before advising people on giving up everything to go abroad?


It is not a farce. Many do it. Even without a degree, you can still teach at smaller schools in small towns that need people. Or you can teach privately. Ladislav is not telling anyone what to do. Going abroad is a decision YOU have to make. He is just giving some constructive advice for those who have already made that suggestion. No one can tell another what to do cause every situation and person is different with different needs and different paths, destiny and karma.

Why did you create another account? What's the point of having a Master2?


I created a Master2 because I'm so insecure and I wanted to start over. Will you help me?
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Postby AsianBill » Fri Jan 29, 2010 3:01 pm

Master2 wrote:
Winston wrote:
Master2 wrote:
ladislav wrote:
Ok, so what do we do for a living in those countries? How do we help the locals if we don't go there with millions of dollars to create jobs with our businesses? If you're poor what do you do?


You try and work online, become a writer, teach English. And the locals will appreciate one on one help. Every little bit helps. Resettling in other countries is not a short term plan and does not happen overnight. And some locals will benefit from a few hundred dollars if you pay for school, etc.


How does one become a writer and actually eat in a foreign country? Teaching English is a farce as many people know unless you have a Master's degree in English with at least two years experience. Pay for what school? Is this good advice to give to someone before they just shove off to a foreign country? Should they have something to fall back on in case things go south? What about your friends who committed suicide in Thailand when they ran out of options? Shouldn't you mention these things before advising people on giving up everything to go abroad?


It is not a farce. Many do it. Even without a degree, you can still teach at smaller schools in small towns that need people. Or you can teach privately. Ladislav is not telling anyone what to do. Going abroad is a decision YOU have to make. He is just giving some constructive advice for those who have already made that suggestion. No one can tell another what to do cause every situation and person is different with different needs and different paths, destiny and karma.

Why did you create another account? What's the point of having a Master2?


I created a Master2 because I'm so insecure and I wanted to start over. Will you help me?



There is good advice by some of the posters about making a living abroad. You shouldn't be so negative or give up before you've even tried.
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Postby Master2 » Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:28 am

AsianBill wrote:
Master2 wrote:
Winston wrote:
Master2 wrote:
ladislav wrote:
Ok, so what do we do for a living in those countries? How do we help the locals if we don't go there with millions of dollars to create jobs with our businesses? If you're poor what do you do?


You try and work online, become a writer, teach English. And the locals will appreciate one on one help. Every little bit helps. Resettling in other countries is not a short term plan and does not happen overnight. And some locals will benefit from a few hundred dollars if you pay for school, etc.


How does one become a writer and actually eat in a foreign country? Teaching English is a farce as many people know unless you have a Master's degree in English with at least two years experience. Pay for what school? Is this good advice to give to someone before they just shove off to a foreign country? Should they have something to fall back on in case things go south? What about your friends who committed suicide in Thailand when they ran out of options? Shouldn't you mention these things before advising people on giving up everything to go abroad?


It is not a farce. Many do it. Even without a degree, you can still teach at smaller schools in small towns that need people. Or you can teach privately. Ladislav is not telling anyone what to do. Going abroad is a decision YOU have to make. He is just giving some constructive advice for those who have already made that suggestion. No one can tell another what to do cause every situation and person is different with different needs and different paths, destiny and karma.

Why did you create another account? What's the point of having a Master2?


I created a Master2 because I'm so insecure and I wanted to start over. Will you help me?



There is good advice by some of the posters about making a living abroad. You shouldn't be so negative or give up before you've even tried.


Oh thank you great Asian Bill. Why do you call yourself Asian Bill anyway?
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Postby AsianBill » Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:55 pm

Master2 wrote:
AsianBill wrote:
Master2 wrote:
Winston wrote:
Master2 wrote:
ladislav wrote:
Ok, so what do we do for a living in those countries? How do we help the locals if we don't go there with millions of dollars to create jobs with our businesses? If you're poor what do you do?


You try and work online, become a writer, teach English. And the locals will appreciate one on one help. Every little bit helps. Resettling in other countries is not a short term plan and does not happen overnight. And some locals will benefit from a few hundred dollars if you pay for school, etc.


How does one become a writer and actually eat in a foreign country? Teaching English is a farce as many people know unless you have a Master's degree in English with at least two years experience. Pay for what school? Is this good advice to give to someone before they just shove off to a foreign country? Should they have something to fall back on in case things go south? What about your friends who committed suicide in Thailand when they ran out of options? Shouldn't you mention these things before advising people on giving up everything to go abroad?


It is not a farce. Many do it. Even without a degree, you can still teach at smaller schools in small towns that need people. Or you can teach privately. Ladislav is not telling anyone what to do. Going abroad is a decision YOU have to make. He is just giving some constructive advice for those who have already made that suggestion. No one can tell another what to do cause every situation and person is different with different needs and different paths, destiny and karma.

Why did you create another account? What's the point of having a Master2?


I created a Master2 because I'm so insecure and I wanted to start over. Will you help me?



There is good advice by some of the posters about making a living abroad. You shouldn't be so negative or give up before you've even tried.


Oh thank you great Asian Bill. Why do you call yourself Asian Bill anyway?



Nah, I've moved on. But anyway, you're welcome.
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Postby Master2 » Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:42 am

AsianBill wrote:
Master2 wrote:
AsianBill wrote:
Master2 wrote:
Winston wrote:
Master2 wrote:
ladislav wrote:
Ok, so what do we do for a living in those countries? How do we help the locals if we don't go there with millions of dollars to create jobs with our businesses? If you're poor what do you do?


You try and work online, become a writer, teach English. And the locals will appreciate one on one help. Every little bit helps. Resettling in other countries is not a short term plan and does not happen overnight. And some locals will benefit from a few hundred dollars if you pay for school, etc.


How does one become a writer and actually eat in a foreign country? Teaching English is a farce as many people know unless you have a Master's degree in English with at least two years experience. Pay for what school? Is this good advice to give to someone before they just shove off to a foreign country? Should they have something to fall back on in case things go south? What about your friends who committed suicide in Thailand when they ran out of options? Shouldn't you mention these things before advising people on giving up everything to go abroad?


It is not a farce. Many do it. Even without a degree, you can still teach at smaller schools in small towns that need people. Or you can teach privately. Ladislav is not telling anyone what to do. Going abroad is a decision YOU have to make. He is just giving some constructive advice for those who have already made that suggestion. No one can tell another what to do cause every situation and person is different with different needs and different paths, destiny and karma.

Why did you create another account? What's the point of having a Master2?


I created a Master2 because I'm so insecure and I wanted to start over. Will you help me?



There is good advice by some of the posters about making a living abroad. You shouldn't be so negative or give up before you've even tried.


Oh thank you great Asian Bill. Why do you call yourself Asian Bill anyway?



Nah, I've moved on. But anyway, you're welcome.


Don't mention it. Hey, what do you think about this racist ass president of ours who says shit like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl22ZUVd ... re=related
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Postby Master2 » Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:53 am

It's a good thing that there is racial harmony in this country. If I didn't know any better, I'd say they were lovers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHGhuPQv ... re=related
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