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Could so many people be so wrong???
I am willing to love all mankind, except an American. â€” Samuel Johnson
The 100% American is 99% an idiot. â€” George Bernard Shaw
One of the delightful things about Americans is that they have absolutely no historical memory. â€” Chou En-Lai
I am quite serious when I say that I do not believe there are, on the whole earth besides, so many intensified bores as in these United States. No man can form an adequate idea of the real meaning of the word, without coming here. â€” Charles Dickens
Their ... demeanour is invariably morose, sullen, clownish and repulsive. I should think there is not, on the face of the earth, a people so entirely destitute of humour, vivacity, or the capacity of enjoyment. â€” Charles Dickens
I believe that the heaviest blow ever dealt at liberty's head will be dealt by this nation the United States in the ultimate failure of its example to the earth. â€” Charles Dickens
The American woman is a monstrosity. â€” Charles Dickens
The American male doesn't mature until he has exhausted all other possibilities. â€” Wilfred Sheed
America is a mistake, admittedly a gigantic mistake, but a mistake nevertheless. â€” Sigmund Freud
A single nation that has succeeded in lowering the intelligence, the morality, the quality of the human race almost throughout the globe is a phenomenon never before experienced since the beginning of time. I accuse the United States of being in a constant state of crime against humanity. â€” Henry de Montherlant
Catholicism has made man stupid, but it has not degraded him; it has introduced as many good and beautiful things as bad things. The United States have simply degraded humanity. Catholicism has done less harm in two thousand years than the United States in two hundred. â€” Henry de Montherlant
White man speaks with forked tongue. â€” Native American saying
Americans are so dumb! â€” Bjork
Most American men are repressors. â€” Ayn Rand
America .. the international Jekyll and Hyde ... the land of a thousand disguises, sneaks up on you but rarely surprises. -- Gil Scott-Heron
America is the only nation in history which has gone miraculously directly from barbarism to degeneration without the usual interval of civilisation. â€” Georges Clemenceau
If you're going to America, bring your own food. â€” Fran Lebowitz
No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public. â€” H.L. Mencken
The men the American public admire most extravagantly are the most daring liars; the men they detest most violently are those who try to tell them the truth. -- H. L. Mencken
The pillars of Hercules of the United States are vulgarity and stupidity. -- Leon Trotsky
In America you can say anything you want â€” as long as it doesnâ€™t have any effect. â€“ Paul Goodman
It was wonderful to find America, put perhaps it would have been more wonderful to miss it. â€” Mark Twain
The American has no language. He has dialect, slang, provincialism, accent and so forth. â€” Rudyard Kipling
America ... where laws and customs alike are based on the dreams of spinsters. â€” Bertrand Russell
In America everybody is of the opinion that he has no social superiors, since all men are equal, but he does not admit that he has no social inferiors. â€” Bertrand Russell
I heard an Englishman, who had been long resident in America, declare that in following, in meeting, or in overtaking, in the street, on the road, or in the field, at the theatre, the coffee-house, or at home, he had never overheard Americans conversing without the word DOLLAR being pronounced between them. Such unity of purpose ... can ... be found nowhere else, except... in an ant's nest. â€” Frances Trollope
The United States is an illegitimate country, just like Israel. It has no right to exist. That country belongs to the Red man, the American Indian... It's actually a shame to be a so-called American, because everybody living there is a usurper, an invader taking part in this crime, which is to rob the land, rob the country and kill all the American Indians. â€” Bobby Fischer
The United States is evil. It has to be brought down, it has to be eliminated from the world scene. They are the ones who have made the world the hell that it is. â€” Bobby Fischer
One of the worst terrorist states in the world. â€” Noam Chomsky
The US is a business-run huckster society, and its primary value is deceit. â€” Noam Chomsky
The greatest purveyor of violence in the world today -- [is] my own government. -- Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.
The United States is evil ... it is the canker of the world. â€” Henry de Montherlant
Americans ... have wrought a country that has after more than two centuries yet to evidence a single year during which it was not making war upon someone, somewhere, for some reason. â€” Ward Churchill
The crimes of this guilty land will never be purged away but with blood. â€” John Brown
More perhaps than any other US President, Reagan convinced many around the world that the US is a fraud, a big lie. Not only is it not democratic, but in fact it is the greatest enemy of the right of self-determination of peoples. -- Fr. Miguel D'Escoto
We have met the enemy and he is U.S. â€” bumper sticker, 2003
The United States is in many ways the biggest ghetto in the world. â€” Selma James
I don't see any American dream; I see an American nightmare. â€” Malcolm X
America is the greatest of opportunities and the worst of influences. â€” George Santayana
There is nothing redeemable about America. â€” Ewuare Osayande
We believe the worst thieves in the world today and the worst terrorists are the Americans. â€” Osama bin Laden
Russians take your freedom, but Americans steal your soul. â€” anonymous German
The big Satan is a big liar. â€” Iranian chief of intelligence
They are possibly the dumbest people on the planet. â€” Michael Moore
The percentage of mentally disturbed people in the United States is very high. From the time the American gets up in the morning, he feels as if someone is trying to influence his will in some way: he is a person with a thousand pressures. The Americans live under a great strain ... and have great feelings of frustration. â€” Fidel Castro
The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic and a killer. â€” D.H. Lawrence
I believe the United States is a truly monstrous force in the world. â€” Harold Pinter
The United States of America is a threat to world peace. â€” Nelson Mandela
Our every action is a battle cry against imperialism, and a battle hymn for the people's unity against the great enemy of mankind: the United States of America. â€” Che Guevara
America is a lunatic asylum. â€” Ezra Pound
the US ... cultivates no origin or mythical authenticity; it has no past and no founding truth ... it lives in a perpetual present. in the US everything human is artificial. The country is without hope. What is arresting here is ... both the absence of architecture in the cities and the dizzying absence of emotion and character in the faces and bodies. â€” Jean Baudrillard
The Yanks are by far the most cretinous creatures on the planet. â€” Poiuytr
The Americans are the living refutation of the Cartesian axiom, "I think, therefore I am": Americans do not think, yet they are. The American 'mind', puerile and primitive, lacks characteristic form and is therefore open to every kind of standardization. â€” Julius Evola
The much-vaunted sex appeal of American women is drawn from films, reviews and pin-ups, and is in large print fictitious. A recent medical survey in the United States showed that 75% of young American women are without strong sexual feeling and instead of satisfying their libido they seek pleasure narcissistically in exhibitionism, vanity, and the cult of fitness and health in a sterile sense. â€” Julius Evola
To all organic conceptions of life Americans oppose a mechanistic conception. In a society which has 'started from scratch', everything has the characteristic of being fabricated. In American society appearances are masks, not faces. At the same time, proponents of the American way of life are hostile to personality. â€” Julius Evola
America is form opposed to content. Not just form instead of content. Form opposed. Often violently. There are few things resented so much among us as the suggestion that what we do means. Other cultures have argued over their meanings. We tend to deny that there is any such thing, insisting instead that what you see is what you get and that's it. All we're doing is having a good time, all we're doing is making a buck, all we're doing is enjoying the spectacle. Media is the American war on content with all the stops out, with meaning in utter rout, frightened nuances dropping their weapons as they run. â€” Michael Ventura
How to get people to vote against their interests and to really think against their interests is very clever. It's the cleverest ruling class that I have ever come across in history. It's been two hundred years at it. It's superb. â€” Gore Vidal
The Americans deliberately do not want to live the truth. They know what the truth is ... but do not want to accept it but instead live a lie. The entire country is one giant lie. Their insistence on being sham and phony ... contributes to the high incidence of mental illness in the country. It makes people stressed out; it takes a whole lot of energy to pretend being what one is not; pretending being a false ideal of the self exhausts people and leads to their collapse. â€” Ozodi Thomas Osuji
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Any of us here like that? And look at the smiling Russian girls on the right- they want a guy from the list above like yesterday.
Hey look who is talking! A Brit? He just described Brits. Morose!
A brain is a terrible thing to wash!
While I certainly have my gripes about America - sheesh! Come on now!
Oh how easily the rest of world forgets the actual good things America has contributed to societies.
(Before people flame, I'm well aware of the bad as well )
As people continue to take daily advantage of the inventions, creations, engineering of American contributions, enjoy some of the better older music and films, that have helped progress and carry along their societies, they turn around and spit on America and Americans. Hypocritical.
Again, there is much I disagree about America (a good deal to do with the distorted gov., unjust wars, twisted media, awful movements such as feminism, junk foods, etc.), but can't people at least keep in mind the good America has contributed.
"Give me liberty or give me death" - Patrick Henry
Whenever I get down about where America is headed, I like to remind myself the sheer percentage of Nobel Prizes that have been won by Americans over the years, in comparison to other countries, especially given our small population. American schools may be "dumbed down" compared to just 20 years ago, but I feel Americans by nature also don't feel the need to flaunt their brains, when they do have them. Yes, things are changing, and I long for the better days of the past, but I try to stay optimistic.
What, none from Tocqueville? I've got a nice collection of them. A few paraphrased off top of head:
Americans are the least philosophical people.
There is less free speech in America than in any other civilized country.
They are always looking for some tiny distinction they might claim, so as to assume a perch of superiority from which to look down upon their neighbors.
As for all the American technological accomplishment of days gone by -- well, yes, but our thing has always been bringing products to market, not the theory behind the technology. The thinking part always gets done in Germany or someplace outside the U.S., then we figure out a way to make a lot of money mass-marketing it. And of course, now we don't produce anything but insanely wealthy banksters.
As for Nobel prizes -- those are often rather fraudulent and awarded for political reasons. Barack Obama, who has expanded a pointless war, got a Nobel peace prize -- a PEACE PRIZE, for crying out loud -- simply for giving the Europeans a little bit of his usual hot air rhetoric, unsupported by his actual policies, about multi-lateralism. Wonder how the Europeans felt after he came to Oslo and gave an acceptance speech straight from the GW Bush neocon tool kit, proclaiming war is peace and a Manichean struggle of pure good versus pure evil.
Random observations: Wonder if Ezra Pound pronounced the U.S. an insane asylum before or after being incarcerated in one in Washington D.C. Very interesting to read above that a study shows 75 percent of young American women don't have traditional libidinous feelings, but rather get their jollies in such things as narcissistic exhibitionism. I've been developing a similar hypothesis from personal experience. These women don't really want an intimate relationship with an attractive male; they want something else altogether, and whatever it is, it's really perverse, the reflection of a very sick society. That's why all the laments on this site about the impossibly high standards of American women don't ring true. Believe me, the guys who can check all their boxes are having the same problems with them. They are just a different breed now.
Get yer American bashing materials here!
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I think generally this site is about dating abroad for mostly American men. And American men are admired for many qualities such as:
Let's start with some positive things:
See the smiling Russian ladies to your right- on the margin? They are looking for Americans. Have they not been reading the quotes?
A brain is a terrible thing to wash!
Really? No, 99% of them never heard anything bad about Americans besides general "Americans are stupid" and "Americans are fat". Both of these are actually true, but the meaning of "stupid" is varied and too generalized. Fat - I think we all know that US has too many obese people.
However, my biggest dream of my life is actually to make National News in Russia and Ukraine and read these quotes, so the girls actually think of these things and how they are wasting their life by moving into a nation of Fast Food and endless loans, credits, payments, bankruptcies and constant consumption. Girls have no idea that no one has "real friends", no one really knows their neighbors and school education is pretty bad (Universities are pretty good, but loans will kill your life after you graduate). There is ABSOLUTELY no reason for people to seek happiness in the USA unless they are castrated, not sexually-able to perform, complete loners or complete selfish ego-maniacs, who love being only alone and enjoy their iPods and Cadillacs.
However, as we know, people are social creatures and most of Americans end up somewhere as the characters of "Fight Club" - you wish to blow up you so-loved house and just freakin' cry on someone's shoulder.
I am not saying any English speaking country is better, but I would definitely advise people to move to Canada rather than United States. In general, Europe seems to absolutely the best place to live and have a family. I visited Finland, Poland, France and lived in Ukraine. Yes, Ukraine is poor and unstable, but other countries, including Poland, are doing great. Most of the problems that I see in America don't exist in Europe - obese people, bad food, stupidity, "life in a bubble", absence of love, absence of friends, absence of close families etc - Europe has much less or none of these problems. With EU citizenship you can live in two dozen countries and work where you like. Education is free or very cheap, healthcare is free or cheap, food is great, people are great... Going to America? To work your ass off and then spend all this money on doctor's bills? Work your ass off and have no personal life? Work your ass off and have miserable 2 weeks of vacation per year? In the best case, work your ass off, stay healthy (which is tough with bad food in the USA), make BIG money, buy a huge expensive house in Fort Lauderdale, FL, drive a convertible, look good..... BUT STILL BE LONELY and dateless for years!!! WTF? It's not worth it. I like those quotes on top, totally true.
My Russian lady friend commented to me that she thought many American men were very arrogant and lacking in intelligence or character depth.
On the flip side however, she also said that she feels it's easier to meet an open-minded and tenderhearted American man than a Russian man with similar traits.
So, why are they smiling sheepeshly and posing in all these sexy outfits? To get a Canadian? Or a European? Also, I don't think this is what they think of Americans. They may have heard that Americans are stupid but may have dismissed it as jealousy.
They think Tom Cruise. They think Bruce Willis/Silvester Stallone. They think guys like these:
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This is who they are hoping to net:
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THIS is the American they know and see on TV:
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None of these are obese. And there are plenty of guys who are non obese in the US who will reply to the ladies' ads.
But how do they treat immigrants in the EU? I have heard the French really hate foreigners and so do many of the people in the countries you have mentioned. Sure, it is good to live there( for the locals) but how do they treat outsiders? Americans are also prejudiced but if you try to assimilate and look and sound like the majority, you have a chance of being accepted, but not in all these indigenous Euro countries. And Russians are not liked in Europe at all. Maybe these ladies will be treated like subhumans there.
Canada is good, though.
Oh, but that does not go for ladies. A man will be dateless, not a woman. A man will be treated like shit, not the girls.
A brain is a terrible thing to wash!
Hell no You should correct this by saying: Girls will be offered sex, but not love. That's what happens with girls who date American guys. Once they arrive to America, they go nuts - so many sporty good looking guys. But after a few years they lean back more and more - towards immigrant Russian guys. After 5-6 years they just "give up" on guys or just get laid with whoever goes their way cuz they just become a mess and don't even understand WTF is going on because there is no love in America, but it just CAN'T be true because all the Hollywood movies show love... But there is none Oh those naive Eastern European girls They go through hell upon adjusting to life in the USA. The only ones that survive become Americanized - they become bitchy, selfish, go to the gym and try to catch a rich guy in America. When they do, they still find no happiness. Another type of girls that thinks she is happy - are those that were living in a shit hole back in Russia-Ukraine. When they get to drive a car and live in a nice house with any guy - they think it is Heaven on Earth. However, in 3-5 years they get mentally disturbed because their husband prefers to jerk off to porn instead of having sex or his equipment just does not work. I f*cked a few Russian girls who were married to American men, they were different ages (oldest one was a hot 42-year blonde and I was 20, lol). But the reason was the same - their husbands are just not sexually performing or not even interested in sex. When they hit the bars, guys there are low and retarded and cheating is hard anyway
I know thousands of examples, I know way too many immigrant or mixed families in many states across the US. Almost no one is happy, divorce rate is huge even between immigrant families because upon arrival to the USA family life becomes extremely tough in the society that has no friendship and no interest in life besides money.
Wow, with quotes like those, why bother leaving the country? Man, everyone hates us. But I've come across foreigners who've lived in this country for many years and love it. Anyway, "where you go, there you are."
I agree with Ladislav about the Dickens quotes. Definitely sounds like some projection going on. Especially in the time period Dickens lived.
Actually most of the world adores Americans.
Well, the ones that love it here, stay here. The ones that do not like it, go. Sooner or later. That is why some 150,000 a year leave.
So, of course, the ones you met love it. It is the same in any other country with any foreigner/immigrant. If he/she stays there for many years it is because he/she likes it for some reason. Americans who live in Kuwait for many years are there because the pluses outweigh the minuses. Long vacations, tax free salaries, proximity to Europe.
And of course no foreigner/immigrant would in his right mind say to a native anywhere that he/she 'does not like it'. He/she does not want an angry reaction of the type- "well, if you don't like it, get your a## out and don't let the door slam you on the way". All the grumbles are reserved for people of the same immigrant tribe and in whisper behind close doors.
Same with Americans overseas. No American living in Saudi would tell a Saudi Arab that 'he does not like it in Saudi'. You'd have a very violent reaction. Those who did would likely be deported with no release letters and then blacklisted.
Most Americans are fairly patriotic and do not take kindly to any negative remarks. Immigrants/foreigners know that and keep their mouths shut or only say good things.
Yeah, no one is more morose than a Brit. Well, maybe the Japanese are a bit more. But a Brit calling Americans morose. That is outrageous!
Physically, yes. And true in other respects if you move within the same culture. As far as the reaction of people to you and your societal position and your dating opportunities when you change countries, absolutely not! These immediately start changing when you move to another culture.
A brain is a terrible thing to wash!
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