Homosexuality

The_Hero_of_Men · Post by **The_Hero_of_Men** » March 22nd, 2011, 11:54 am

I am African American; I was born a black man and it offends me to hear a fudgepacker or carpet-muncher/muff-diver say that they were born gay. To that I say: Bull. SHIT! I can not help that I was born African American. I did not choose to be African American. However, I am proud of who I am.

However, homosexuality IS A CHOICE. The gays who say that they were born that way are full of shit. They have told themselves that so many times, they began to believe it. They instincively know that homosexuality is unnatural, but they use the "I was born this way" excuse to suppress that inner voice.

Mr. Winston, I direct this part of my post to you:

You stated in another post that you believed that homosexuality is genetic. On one hand, I will say, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, that you are full of it. On the other hand, yes, there are genetic aberrations in these people, but at the end of day, faggots CHOOSE to suck on another man's cock; they CHOOSE to allow themselves to be ass-rammed by (or do the ass ramming to) their partners. Also, dykes CHOOSE to go to bed with another woman. You probably do not believe in the Bible, but let me point something out: God SPECIFICALLY singles out homosexuality as an abomination (Leviticus 18:22). Why does God specifically target Homosexuality? Why not target murder, thievery, adultery, idolatry, etc. as an abomination? Because, obviously, homosexuality is UNNATURAL. While God does say in the Bible that "there is no sin greater than the other", He specifically calls out homosexuality as an abomination, and in the next verse, he calls bestiality a "perversion". Also, there are children that get hurt by their parents, and they grow up to be successful, productive citizens of society. Why? The CHOSE to rise above the bad and do something with theirselves.

That's all.

BellaRuth · Post by **BellaRuth** » March 22nd, 2011, 12:32 pm

I can't decide what I think about homosexuality. The main reason is that I grew up with a boy who turned out to be gay, and it would have been more of a surprise if he wasn't. He always hung around with the girls, was very effeminate, although was great company and a clever guy- I could never imagine him having a girlfriend.

Some think chemicals in the water could cause homosexuality when the mother is pregnant. Phthalates and estrogen from contraceptive pills are two culprits. But then again, it's hardly a new phenomenon, and most boys in the same area grow up heterosexual.

I do think societal influences may be to blame, too. In past cultures it was the norm for men to have sex with teenage boys, and I read one middle-eastern text from the 1500s or so where a man claimed that this was seen as natural- for men to lust over boys- and that having sex with women was only for procreation. Also, apparently in America it's very common for girls in particular to claim to be bisexual- maybe influenced by the media?

well-informed · Post by **well-informed** » March 22nd, 2011, 12:56 pm

EXACTLY BEING HOMOSEXUAL IS A SLAP TO THE FACE OF GOD NOT THAT IT MATTERS TO YOU. Winston there is absolutely nothing genetic about homosexuality. Something must have happened in that person's childhood that made them the way they are.

Homosexuality is NOT NORMAL that's why stupid feminists always push for lesbian crap groups so that women can be "liberated" from men. You would think there be more lesbians in America but there are in the minority because you can't change nature unless you choose to.

They'll probably go to hell, homosexuality in the bible is described as a good thing in the eyes of Lucifer, and quite frankly it is

jamesbond · Post by **jamesbond** » March 22nd, 2011, 2:48 pm

well-informed wrote:EXACTLY BEING HOMOSEXUAL IS A SLAP TO THE FACE OF GOD NOT THAT IT MATTERS TO YOU. Winston there is absolutely nothing genetic about homosexuality. Something must have happened in that person's childhood that made them the way they are.

Homosexuality is NOT NORMAL that's why stupid feminists always push for lesbian crap groups so that women can be "liberated" from men. You would think there be more lesbians in America but there are in the minority because you can't change nature unless you choose to.

They'll probably go to hell, homosexuality in the bible is described as a good thing in the eyes of Lucifer, and quite frankly it is

In college we studied this topic a lot (I majored in psychology) and all the evidence shows, homosexuality is NOT GENETIC, it is caused by repressed feelings towards the same sex parent. What happens is that, if you internalize the abuse and rejection you received from a same sex parent, later in life you will act out those feelings and try to get love (by having gay sex).

I have heard of people going through therapy (like Primal therapy) where after a year or so of ongoing counseling, they no longer had any homosexual feelings and some of them went on and got married and had children.

Post by **fschmidt** » March 22nd, 2011, 3:29 pm

jamesbond wrote:In college we studied this topic a lot (I majored in psychology) and all the evidence shows, homosexuality is NOT GENETIC, it is caused by repressed feelings towards the same sex parent. What happens is that, if you internalize the abuse and rejection you received from a same sex parent, later in life you will act out those feelings and try to get love (by having gay sex).

I never heard anything so idiotic, but then I shouldn't be surprised as this was taught in a modern liberal college.

The Ancient Athenians were largely bisexual. I doubt they all had "repressed feelings towards the same sex parent". I assume homosexuality involves both genetic predisposition and culture. Even in a culture that encourages homosexuality, like Athens, some men won't do it. And even in cultures that suppress homosexuality, some will be gay. Personally I envy gays since they can find sexual satisfaction with sane people (men), but unfortunately, I can't.

ErikHeaven · Post by **ErikHeaven** » March 22nd, 2011, 3:46 pm

I think anybody who gives a damn about what whomever does in the bed is sick,look it does not affect you so why do you care? The bible is a cartoon book full of some real history yet the so-called miracles never happened. There is no white jesus in the sky to save you the hero of time. I am black and i think the bible is holding black people down. Its a fake book that keeps your mind in the matrix. If you really read it you would not believe how disgusting that book really is.

The_Hero_of_Men · Post by **The_Hero_of_Men** » March 22nd, 2011, 4:55 pm

ErikHeaven wrote:I think anybody who gives a damn about what whomever does in the bed is sick,look it does not affect you so why do you care? The bible is a cartoon book full of some real history yet the so-called miracles never happened. There is no white jesus in the sky to save you the hero of time. I am black and i think the bible is holding black people down. Its a fake book that keeps your mind in the matrix. If you really read it you would not believe how disgusting that book really is.

I personally do not buy that "everything is designed to keep the black man/woman down" crap, but I do know that you have a point about the Bible. I agree with you on that point, and every thing else that you said. However, the problem with homosexuality today is that the gay rights movement is not only trying to force their deviant lifestyle down everyone's throat, they're telling us that we HAVE to accept (AND LIKE!!!) it, and therein lies the problem.

Except for that "the bible was designed to keep black people down" bit, I agree with you 100%. [/i]

odbo · Post by **odbo** » March 22nd, 2011, 5:53 pm

homosexuality is the best way to keep humanity down, that's why it's pushed. it has nothing to do with liberating people. most gay people are completely clueless of the nefarious reasons for the gay agenda which they happily support (and deny it exists). i hate to sound cliche but when you get right down to it, it really is good versus evil. do you believe in man being free or manipulated? i'm not against those that are gay because of a developmental disorder, there isn't much help they can get as most of the psychology & shrinks are corrupted. but more and more people being programmed to partake is a very worrying trend. what do you think this obsession with anal penetration in porn and girls kissing was about!

fschmidt wrote:
jamesbond wrote:In college we studied this topic a lot (I majored in psychology) and all the evidence shows, homosexuality is NOT GENETIC, it is caused by repressed feelings towards the same sex parent.
I never heard anything so idiotic, but then I shouldn't be surprised as this was taught in a modern liberal college.

The Ancient Athenians were largely bisexual. I doubt they all had "repressed feelings towards the same sex parent". I assume homosexuality involves both genetic predisposition and culture.

bro i dont mean to attack you but literally every sentence you wrote has blatant lies you are probably consciously unaware of, but it makes for funny reading to me. if anything a modern liberal college would teach the sensitivity angle aka bullshit. what a stupid phrase liberal is. you might as well just say marxist. are there conservative colleges anymore?? because to me liberal = rockefeller's social engineers start a new initiative at harvard, like male-bashing in elementary schools or focusing on self esteem, and quickly spread it nationwide. and history is easily re-written to say that all greeks were into homo and paedophilia orgies. don't use the history they gave you to prove the lies they feed you. bi-sexual is not the same as homo. bi is proof it's a choice, if you're into sex not for romance but as some kind of sport. which it's becoming. they've got teenage boys taking viagra.

fschmidt wrote:Personally I envy gays since they can find sexual satisfaction with sane people (men), but unfortunately, I can't.

that's exactly what hollywood tells teenage boys to think!

have2fly · Post by **have2fly** » March 22nd, 2011, 7:55 pm

I don't care about gay people, let them be who they are, let them poke each other in the ass.

What drives me crazy is that people in Western countries are constantly told that "being gay is awesome" and "being gay is even better than being straight" and "being gay is actually so normal and natural". WTF??? If you say that being gay is wrong, everyone starts to blame you for being a hater and discriminating. But still WTF??? Gays can have their rights, but why do they have parades? Why do they push so much propaganda that being gay is the way people should be??? It's completely retarded! Kids are told in schools that some people are gay and it's great. DUH? Of course many people will fall into that and want to be gay.

On the other hand, with loneliness in the U.S. being that way, I am sure many guys that are gay have chosen to be gay. Think about it: you immediately find something in common with other people (become a part of unique group of similar interests), you can go to gay clubs, participate in gay societies, gay culture is presented as "stylish, metropolitan and upscale" so you feel as being a part of something upscale and important. You can always blame others for discriminating you. Girls will love to hang out with you, gay (and some straight) guys will love to hang out with you. It's insane!

When I was attending university, every gay guy was a rockstar! They were invited to all the parties, always surrounded by tons of girls... I mean WTFFFFFF???? OK, I understand that hanging out with gay guys could be fun sometimes, but in Russia for example, girls always surround STRAIGHT guys and gay guys are usually treated as losers and not needed because they will never be "real men" in every respect. The situation in the U.S. is so fuked up! Gay = being loved and chased by girls, straight = girls don't care about them. SICK!

keius · Post by **keius** » March 22nd, 2011, 8:41 pm

I don't particularly care anymore. I was a raving homophobe when i was younger but what they do in the privacy of their own home is their thing...as long as they're not infringing on someone else's shit.
Just please stop yapping about it on the news and media all the time.

What i do care about is redefining the meaning/definition of "marriage" just to suit them. When someone talks marriage, it's understood that it's between a man and a woman. Who cares if marriage is civil or religious?!? It's got nothing to do with Gov't or Religion. Marriage is between a man and a woman. The whole f'ing world accepts that. When a guy says he's married, we assume it's to a woman. Are we going to have to ask if he's married to a man or woman now? Will we be the only messed up country that has to ask that?
Marriage is a term not only defined in the English language but in every language. Will our definition of marriage be different than everyone else's now?

That said, i have no problems with Civil Unions granting gay men and women the exact same rights as those with actual marriages. The US
gov't should just institute that policy so the gay/lesbian/tv/etc community can shut the hell up.

BTW have2fly. Girls surround gay men in universities for a couple reasons.
1 - They are safe. No worries about getting drunk and getting raped.
2 - they are a challenge. Reform your gay man, sigh.
3 - Most gay men know how to have fun....just like the girls. They can usually do the girl talk or relate to them.
4 - Most of those gay men you saw are probably attractive, kept together, and metro-ish. Not so "dominant" or "boorish" or "pushy" (just interested in getting laid). Gay men usually have a rep of being "cultured".
And the list goes on....
Also, you probably only saw a small subset of the popular gay men. The unattractive gay men aren't so visible.

DaRick · Post by **DaRick** » March 22nd, 2011, 10:46 pm

My thoughts on why homosexuals live better lives within the Anglosphere:

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But anyway, as for homosexuality itself:

- In the Anglosphere, due to the idealisation of homosexuality, it is mostly an acquired taste, so to speak - I know a guy who was attracted exclusively to girls as a child; years later, he thinks of himself as being gay
- There is the odd person who is genetically homosexual, due to pre-birth abnormalities, but those are rare
- I find the concept of homosexuality to be repulsive - I'm not one of the many Anglo guys who has a soft spot for lesbians - no, I just find the idea frightening and of course, it goes against my religion

S_Parc · Post by **S_Parc** » March 23rd, 2011, 7:20 am

Well fellows, I feel a lot safer in the openly gay town of Provincetown, out at the end of the Cape Cod peninsula in MA, than in the Lesbian police-state/militia town of Northampton MA.

Really, gay guys are just guys. They treat others with respect and if they see that you're hetero a/o have a girlfriend, they'll leave you alone. In Northampton, however, guys get beaten up by butch dykes and if you're with a somewhat attractive lady, at a restaurant or bar/club, you'll get a ton of dirty looks and subtle cues to leave town. The lesbos want hetero couples to look downtrodden & unhappy. That's their worldview where they're in *the zone* and everyone else is feeble & prostrated.

have2fly · Post by **have2fly** » March 24th, 2011, 9:51 am

1 - They are safe. No worries about getting drunk and getting raped.
2 - they are a challenge. Reform your gay man, sigh.
3 - Most gay men know how to have fun....just like the girls.

OMG! This Western brainwashed mentality is killing me!

1. Gay guys are safe??? No kidding! They are so safe that they will never make a boyfriend or husband or even romantic relationship with you. In Russia, it is safe when you walk with a strong straight guy down the street who can protect you in case of trouble. Now that's what safe means in my opinion as well, not walking around with a fag!
2. Challenge? What kind of psycho weird bitch do they have to be "trying to reform gay guys" instead of just finding a decent straight guy? That means those girls are either extremely spoiled by having any guys they want in their life, so they can afford to waste their time on gay guys or that those girls are so bored with their life not knowing WTF she can do otherwise.
3. HOLY COW! So straight guys don't know how to have fun? I wish you would see me during the summer with exchange students from Russia dancing on the picnic table in the park, girls were stripping slowly and then skinny-dipping, I was pumping loud music in the car - those are the parties they show in Hollywood movies, but they barely ever happen in the U.S. in reality! Of course, in America if you dance to techno music in the club with a group of guy friends - you are all gay, so no one does it! Crap, American guys almost never dance by themselves in the club and even if they do, they are looking around to find an ass to grind on! (retarded). Have you seen house parties in Russia/Ukraine? People sit down at the table, girls cook the food from scratch, everyone eats and drinks and stereo suddenly gets loud - everyone (or almost everyone) stands up and dances their ass off (ass grinding is not "needed", people just dance to enjoy it, some hook up of course). Keep in mind, those are almost always "private parties" with friends you know for a long time, they may bring other friends, but parties never turn out to be 300+ people you never met.

S_Parc · Post by **S_Parc** » March 24th, 2011, 10:35 am

have2fly wrote:Have you seen house parties in Russia/Ukraine? People sit down at the table, girls cook the food from scratch, everyone eats and drinks and stereo suddenly gets loud - everyone (or almost everyone) stands up and dances their ass off (ass grinding is not "needed", people just dance to enjoy it, some hook up of course). Keep in mind, those are almost always "private parties" with friends you know for a long time, they may bring other friends, but parties never turn out to be 300+ people you never met.

Dude, you're spoiled. I've only had those kinds of parties with a Brazilian diaspora in town. Outside of that, Yankee parties are segregated; the guys sit in their corner and the women in theirs.

I was just happy to survive Northampton w/o getting impaled by Melissa Etheridge's guitar

E_Irizarry · Post by **E_Irizarry** » March 24th, 2011, 11:17 pm

ErikHeaven wrote:I think anybody who gives a damn about what whomever does in the bed is sick,look it does not affect you so why do you care? The bible is a cartoon book full of some real history yet the so-called miracles never happened. There is no white jesus in the sky to save you the hero of time. I am black and i think the bible is holding black people down. Its a fake book that keeps your mind in the matrix. If you really read it you would not believe how disgusting that book really is.

Another Black American that comprehends this! Niiiiiiiice! I swear all religion is a man-made phenomenon.