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Those Finno-Ugrians are only on the Caucasoid end, especially the Erzya and Moksha Mordvins.
Udmurts, who look mainly Caucasoid but some strong Mongoloid influences, however many of them do have red hair.
Chuvash, a mix between Turkic Bulgars and Finno-Ugrians, who still speak a descendant of the original Bulgar language.
Mari people, though some Mari look very Mongoloid.
Komi people, this one is obviously from wikipedia, but it shows Mongoloid features.
Khanty people, they look quite Mongoloid. I'd assume that the Mansi, a related people also look quite similar.
Great photos and they will not be calling LY a chink jap and gook. Angry Black guys from the US should visit the DR to see that a mulatto nation can exist and militant Asian Americans should visit Lapland, Russia's Finno Ugric republics to see that a Eurasian nation can exist.
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A brain is a terrible thing to wash!
These Mari in the video are mixed Caucasoid-Mongoloid, I doubt any of them are actually racist and call Asians 'gooks'.
Most Finno-Ugrians came from East Asia, and moved northwest, same as the origins of Haplogroup N. Nearly all East Asians have some male ancestors who are haplogroup N or have haplogroup N just like their agnatic ancestors, from father to son.
On another note, Uyghurs are mixed Persians, Turkic Uighurs and the earlier Tocharian inhabitants of the Tarim Basin. (The remaining Uighurs who didn't breed with the Persians and Tocharians became the ethnic Yugurs.) The Tocharians themselves were known to have light hair and light eyes.
The Buddhist monk at the left-hand side is a Tocharian, there were quite a few Tocharian monks who spread Buddhism to East Asia.
http://www.sino-platonic.org/complete/s ... hinese.pdf
A very insightful post, Lone. This is what you're capable of when you keep your anger at bay, and I'm glad to see your usual self again. Discussing why Europe and its socio-cultural-political-economic model has been imperant in the past two or three centuries may take two or three entire forums like this one.
One of my favourite philosophers, French polymath Paul Valery reasoned about this almost 100 years ago, in the aftermath of WWI. He put down Europe's primacy not in its strenghts, but in its weaknesses - for centuries before its modern rise, Europe had been the source and the sink of everything: great civilisations and barbarians, the Greeks and the Romans and Attila and Genghis Khan, war & famine to philosophical and scientific breakthroughs. Our weakness was in the openness of our borders and our thought system, and our strength came from, well, the miraculous way in which we managed to absorb and synthesize those millennia of ethnical mixing and cultural/intellectual colonisation without losing ourselves into the immensity of Asia.
This was beautifully synthesized in Paul Valery's dilemma...
Sure, one could mention such cohesive factors as our common roots in Catholicism, or perhaps even the fact that what you call "white Caucasian" traits never were completely diluted into another Mongoloid ethnicity.
My point is though: if you were to reason about the history of Europe like Valery did, you would come to the same conclusion: it's not an ethnical/racial or birthplace cipher that will define a European, and by extension a "white Caucasian". It's his way of thinking, it's his openness, the fluidity of his learning and reasoning process. Much of the success and the greatness of the Roman Empire was predicated not on the superior military strategy, but on the grand, beautiful project of cultural and social inclusion proposed to all subjected cultures and civilisation. None of them actually lost their gods, their customs, their social structures. All of them, though, were made aware that someone in Rome had thought a "bigger picture" for a universal society based on shared intellectual/cultural and political/economical paradigms, and they could be part of it. For centuries, being a Roman Citizen was the greatest honour that could be bestowed upon any decent citizen of the Western emisphere.
In more recent times, the first Asian countries to become leading economies did so by opening up and listening to their neighbours, whether after a post-war trauma (Japan) or by decree (South Korea, more recently China).
You understand what they key point is, now? SYNTHESIS. You have crystallised yourself into the image of something you can't be anymore (a proud Samurai) and use your dialectic katana against anything and anybody that doesn't embrace your mythical system of pure Asian values. What if that system was, well, romanticised by a few historians and writers but, in fact, never really existed in the first place? And even if it were, the kind of extremely porous, globalised society we have today would never allow such a system to exist, let alone prosper.
You are refusing to adapt to reality for fear or losing an artificial identity that only exists in your mind. This is the root cause of your cognitive dissonance, your rage and intolerance being but the effects of it. You know how many short Asians I personally know, who I have seen succeed in life, completely oblivious of their physical limitation and ethnicity, when not leveraging them. My ex-colleague Justin is a top software developer, a rock climber and ex martial artist and stunt. He used to train with Jon Foo, that other rising Asian star and sex symbol, who is certainly not known for being tall (he's 1.72/1.73).
Sure, your chronical illnesses are annoying, yet I have seen amputees and worse forging ahead with a strong spirit. Being bullied isn't a "privilege" reserved to you as an Asian shortie, it happens to white Caucasians, shorts and talls, thicks and thins, blacks and gingers. Who you are physically is and won't be your downfall. Failing to live in the present and adapt to it may well be. You seem to believe that adaptation is a sacrilege, when it's in fact what society requires from you for the very fact that you were born an ethnical minority in a melting pot society, just like Justin and Jon Foo. As I wrote somewhere else, don't remember if to you or David, modern life is not a formal dinner, but a garden buffet - hang around and pick and mix what you like and define your identity accordingly. But, for God's sake, pick from what's available on the table, not from a menu that's only in your mind!
Asian studs like lone yakuza should stop stealing white women, then relations would be merrier and white men wouldn't have to travel half way across the world to find a decent wife amongst the scraps of Asia/Latin America. Try to keep your dicks in your pants once in a while you horndogs. Remember, if you love blonde girls or the fruits of white civilization, you should encourage them to have children, and with men of their ethnicity.
"she's 33 and me 20 but it's ok, not ok, GOOD, the age is nothing you know"
I keep my anger at bay when I am not talking to some of the dickheads or malicious white supremacists on here and when I am talking to people I respect.
Your observations on Europe are correct and I agree. Yes synthesis and incorporation of new ideas is important. I have never objected to this... there is a reason why I trained/train traditional western boxing, grecoroman wrestling, American MMA, alongside the traditional Korean and Japanese Tae Kwon Do and Kyokushin Karate and also listen to and love and practice classical European musics. These are good points that I do not dispute about "synthesis."
I do not have a mythical system of Asian values that I only adhere to nor do I wish that East Asian countries all adhere to such a system.
The issue I do not think you understand is that synthesizing and allowing American/anglo culture into East Asia, also allows Hollywood/western media into East Asia.
American and most western culture has been built on emasculating and vilifying East Asian or Central Asian males since ancient times. There is a reason Atilla and Ghengis Kahn \ seen as the ultimate enemies and why in comic books, heroes such as Wolverine fight against the Silver Samurai and take his sister (or some female relative) and f**k her. Or why Iron Man fights against The Mandarin.
It is because historically, East Asia, and especially East Asian and central Asian, and to an extent, Russian/Slavic males have always been seen as the enemies and aggressors even though the opposite is true ->anglo-western Europeans and Americans have actually been the historical aggressors.
This is also why you have Tom Cruise in the Last Samurai go there, kill a samurai, and f**k his wife and be called â€œthe last samurai.â€ Westerners in general have a superiority complex and are delusional, but their delusion in the form of Hollywood and western media is becoming a reality because this PsychOPs and cultural warfare has succeeded in creating a generation of self hating East Asians and Asians in general. The Asians in America are a lost cause because they are the most self-hating of the bunch.
There are good things about western culture and I am not disputing this at all. What I have a problem with is when the western culture pervades/infects the entire globe and the prejudices against East Asian males engrained within the culture, are spread to all peoples around the world and also end up causing many East Asians to self hate and makes East Asian males less attractive to girls worldwide.
I see Russian girls with Breakfast at Tiffany's or that other movie with Long Duk Dong as favorite movies of theirs and I rage because they have clearly already been corrupted by American culture and now East Asian males aere just nerds with small dicks to them even though this is not true, not to mention how many other East Asian males I have to compete with because I am realizing that there is a whole giant group of East Asian males who date overseas because the Asian girls in Asia have absurd standards or lust after white males, and of course East Asian males have no options in the USA.
Japan and South Korea may have become very prosperous after WWII, but at the expense of Japanese masculinity, because they removed Japanâ€™s military, occupied Japan, and the racist f***er General McArthur (who also wanted to nuke China) became the defacto leader of Japan for a whileâ€¦. There is a reason the west began churning out Hollywood films that villainized or emasculated East Asian males in the lowest of low ways, especially during the 30s, 40s, 60s, late 70s, 80s, 90s, and more recently, because America and Japan were competing and now with China and America at odds.
Occupying Japan and controlling their government was/is not enough. The west wants to destroy everything in East Asia, including the bond between East Asian male and East Asian female.
South Korea also Americanized and Christianized and now look at how self hating many of the Korean girls are. Iâ€™m not even talking about East Asian American females, who are all self-hating. (Yes 100% of East Asian female Americans are self-hating.) I am talking about the Korean girls from Korea. Also, it is unavoidable given what kind of bullshit Hollywood and western propaganda has done to brainwash their minds.
You call 1.72 m short/height challenged. Well, I am 1.66 m without shoes and maybe 1.68 m with shoes.
Yes, I am muscular, but girls care about height above all else. My entire family has been â€œconcernedâ€ about my height, and girls have told me if only I were taller, they would date me. Look at any East Asian femaleâ€™s requirements and 95% of them want height.
The ones who do not require height are extremely lacking in the facial aesthetics department.
You may say, â€œwell you should settle for an uglier girl who does not care about height then.â€
No. f**k that shit. I am good looking face-wise, and I am well built.
Why the f**k should I settle for a girl who is not my equal in that department (facial aesthetics)?
Why is my height judged yet a femaleâ€™s height is not? My bodystructure/bodyfat percentage is judged, and so is a females. My facial aesthetics are judged, etc. etc. Yet why is my height judged but a femalesâ€™ height not judged? What kind of bullshit is that?
Being taller does not mean a man can protect the woman better other than look/be a bigger meatshield. Today, if you want to protect a woman, you better be fast and strong and agile and good with not only your body/fists/legs/feet, but also with guns. Being a big lumbering guy means you get shot into ground beef a lot more quickly because you cannot hide behind most cover nor are you as agile, and they are shot to pieces easily, not to mention how much/many resources are needed to maintain such a large body and the muscles. Without plenty of food, that big giant guy the girl likes so much becomes a scarecrow, tall, and lanky, and easy to take down and kill.
Before Hollywood and the modern bullshit, most East Asian women would not have given a shit if the man were 1.66 m as long as he were strong and handsome, given that most East Asian females are like 1.60 m. You are clearly unware of the fact that most women worldwide now want men who are 5â€™10â€ (1.77 m) or taller. I see this on all their dating profiles. Even short girls have absurd standards and want men much taller than they are. Female hypergamy and sluttiness and whore-iness at its best.
You are probably also not aware that the East Asian males in Asia who were not blessed with height go and get surgery to lengthen their legs or they wear pads in their shoes. Even in America, I see males of black and white races doing this. It is completely ridiculous because height is not even an advantage in war, nor in fights, especially with modern projectile weaponry. So the bullshit about â€œbiggerâ€ makes them feel more protected is complete and utter bullshit. Also being taller doesnâ€™t guarantee a bigger dick, and I donâ€™t respect girls who only care about dick size. Iâ€™m not tall, but my dick is a solid 6â€. Iâ€™m pretty sure that is enough for most girls.
Being a height challenged male is akin to being an obese woman, even if that height challenged male is muscular/jacked such as myself and can wipe the floor with most people and regularly gets paired with/fights people more than a head taller than he is.
And height is judged in males even though males are also judged on weight/fat percentage. This is a result of womenâ€™s completely absurd standards and Hollywood brainwashing. The western media/Hollywoodâ€™s agenda against East Asian males makes this even worse, because even tall East Asian males are seen as unmanly/emasculated, etc.
I think you need to watch this series to understand just how much the western media and Hollywood has done to try to destroy the East Asian male imageâ€¦
And the facts are that because American culture and Hollywood have been exported around the world, now these stereotypes of East Asian males are popping up everywhere. The only counter to this is South Korean pop and cinema, which unfortunately I do not think is enough, especially because some of the Kpop is gay as f**k.
Film series mentioned above:
At 12:30, dude with the ponytail in the video below (3rd) is Will Yun Lee, the guy I look very similar to and he even has a similar voice to my own. He is pretty tall and is successful as an actor but has always had to play villains for the most part. Actually I do not remember him playing one main-character-hero who gets the girl. Iâ€™m not tall like he is, so would not be able to go into acting, but hopefully now you understand that even the good looking Asian guys are vilified. He is also slated to play the Silver Samurai in the new Wolverine movie and Wolverine gets to f**k his sister or something like that.
One last thing.
It has become the norm in media to portray an East Asian female with a white male. This is why in America, when you ask young Asian American girls who they prefer, they always say white males. They are all already brainwashed and a lost cause. No it is not normal for a girl to prefer a race of males other than her own race.
Think about what will happen when this becomes the "norm" or makes a "headway" into Asia, and has already begun in Korea and Japan.
Japan's herbivore men were also indirectly affected by this, alongside the loss of Japan's military, which is the masculine institution that upholds masculinity in a nation. This is why Japanese females whether American or not are generally the most whoreish, slutty, race-traitor-like females alongside Korean girls. Chinese girls are slowly catching up.
The reason China still holds on to its masculinity whereas many Koreans and Japanese males no longer have any dignity and kowtow to the white man, is because China kicked America's ass in Vietnam and in the Korean civil war (most call it the Korean war). And China is now only maybe 10 years behind the US military, maybe even less.
Sure running away overseas to try to escape this will "help" and I might be able to find a girl overseas, but English is becoming the defacto language of the world. It follows logically that American media, especially Hollywood will be used to help facilitate such learning, which explains why even many slavic. Eastern Euro/Russian girls have watched Breakfast At Tiffany's and Sixteen Candles/Long Duk Dong and other extremely negative portrayals of East Asian males, same as why many East Asian females from East Asia have seen white male/Asian female pairing on screen since childhood and now think that is the "norm" when it is anything but the norm.
Running away overseas is not going to solve this problem. Also going to East Asia would only further enrage me as I see anglosaxons and westerners going there, lording it over everyone, and taking lots of girls/f***ing them and spoiling them, also making it more difficult for East Asians from East Asia, because there is already a shortage of East Asian females. Why would I betray my Asian brothers and go make their lives more difficult.
This is a time when East Asians and any relatives of East Asians have to choose between rolling over and giving up like Korea has and like Japan was forced to do, or to stand up and fight back like China is trying to do right now.
Because western imperialism is not over. It has simply taken on a new costume, in the form of teaching English to peoples of other countries and exporting Holywood there, and weakening the spirits of those peoples even more, causing self-hatred, and causing them to worship/put westerners on a pedestal. This is happening all over the world, and it doesn't matter where the f**k I go because it is everywhere already thanks to globalism. Only option left for me is to fight.
I'm still going overseas once I get enough money together and have my degrees, but you can't just tell me to let this go, because this shit is already everywhere and is unavoidable.
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Stealing white women my ass. I don't even like most white women. They make me think of western anglo/western european imperialists and instantly I start to hate them. I've said multiple times the kind of girls I am attracted are NON-BLONDE Eurasian girls or Russian girls or certain NE European girls, Latinas, Turkish, Greek, and the prettier NE Asian girls. I prefer red hair over blonde any day. Blonde girls, especially the American ones, almost always have bad attitudes and think they are the shit. In fact most western (western euro and any significantly americanized nation) girls are like that. And American girls who are nothing but fat slobs or nothing special think they are the shit all the time as well.
And even I would agree the first white dude is selling himself short. Good looking people should end up with good looking people. That guy clearly has gotten a raw deal.
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Asians have "status" in Peru.
Not sure what you're looking for, though.
For Whites... I bet Russian Far East (Vladivostok etc) would work. Just guessing - since they are "Asian-oriented" there, doing business with China, etc. But anyway I do know that they have beautiful girls, friendly people, no Western tourists. CheezeRaider visited there, I forget who else. Perhaps he will confirm or refute my idea.
It's not a war between Asian men and white men. It is a war between the anglo-American neocolonialists/white supremacists and their allies and lackies alongside the Jews (I never said all white people) who want to oppress East Asia, and the East Asians who have dignity (we probably number in the hundreds worldwide because most East Asians do not have any dignity).
Russians and slavics generally have been allies in this fight. But it is sad to see that there are more and more neo-nazis now in Russia, especially in western Russia and other areas where American culture and hatred for East Asians has been exported, also the tensions between China and Russia do not help + there was hatred between slavics and East Asians in the past I am fairly certain.
This is good advice not just for LY, but for any angry young man who sees himself as part of a Tragically Victimised Group.
Including White Nationalists. In my teenage years I fell in with some brilliant, well-read, intellectual, effervescent men whom I met through a debate society. I thought they were conservatives, but I learned gradually they were White Netionalists of the Stormfront type. They were gentlemen, history buffs, fun to be around. Good memories.
But I began to notice that most had no girlfriends, and were klutzy around women. And some were negative rather than positive in their speech patterns, talking more about what they disliked or hated, than what they liked. Some were bitter.
I moved away, learned to socialize and seduce, moved on with my life. If I hadn't, I wouldn't have had a marriage with a desirable woman, and raised four sons. Because as PublicDuende states, the negativity generated by dwelling on grievances, even grievances based on real events, acts as a force field that repels women.
It's likewise a challenge for some Armenians, for Black Americans who've been raised on a diet of civil rights grievances added to actual discrimination, and for Jews who believe in the Holocaust myth. The man you want to be, is a man who can acknowledge the truth of past wrongs, but refuses to dwell on them.
I'm still not all the way there.
But Public's words are very wise.
lol LY those are the types of asian women who turned you down to be with a white guy
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