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Re: Taiwan massage parlors and brothels - scouting report

Postby Winston » September 1st, 2017, 7:44 am

droid wrote:
Winston wrote:The thing is, the people around u rub off on you. When youre in taiwan and all the women u see are in a state of extreme fear, weakness, and zero confidence and zero social skills and zero personality, that will definitely rub off on you and make you uncomfortable and give you creepy vibes too.

Simply put, if taiwanese girls feel creepy about talking to strangers and strange men then you too will feel the same creepiness when trying to talk to them too. Similar to trying to cold approach in america and feeling that taboo creepy feeling of forbiddenness, which we can all attest to.


Yeah spending even a few hours among shitty people like this can definitely kill your 'mojo'.
This kind of feeds on itself and that's probably some places becomes so bad, and since they are conformists, nobody tries to break the cycle.

Winston wrote:For sure, taiwanese girls are the weakest and least confident females ive even seen on the whole planet. No other country has such weak girls with zero confidence and zero social skills to talk to strangers. Its like they are mentally handicapped or something. Very weird. And it feels like the most awkward thing to try to talk to them or to even be near them.


I thought it was that they had a smug attitude/cliquish, not just just simply shy/inept? or is it both?
If they are anything like the stupid koreans i've seen then i feel for you dude.


Yes very true. Good observation. Wherever you are, the environment rubs off on you, even though it's subconscious and not exactly a conscious choice. Its not a choice. Its inevitable. Some things are out of your control.

Yeah the fact that brothels in taiwan look creepy and dark at night and have bad marketing, coupled with the fact that taiwanese are conformists and feel guilty about going to such places due to the negative stigma, means its no surprise then that such places are usually empty with no other customers. Id imagine that a brothel in Taiwan gets maybe one or two customers a night. So you dont usually see any most of the time. Especially in smaller cities.

In contrast the brothels in Philippines and Thailand are usually packed.

Plus most of the girls there look unhappy and dont wanna be there. A few have good attitudes and are sweet but you have to wade through bad apples first to get to them. It just feels like a chore with weird and bad vibes.

Plus taiwan is very guilt inducing and fear inducing. So you feel fear and guilt all the time, especially if you do something taboo. So you cant feel confident in taiwan because confidence is not validated or approved of.

In short you arent allowed to be yourself in taiwan, unless of course your true self is one of fear, weakness and guilt. Lol.

So theres no freedom in taiwan if you cant be yourself. So why then does the US government call taiwan "the free face of china"? Wtf is the US government smoking?! Theres even a US government video on YouTube called "taiwan the free face of china" from 1960s. Lol. Free to do what? The US government and media never make any friggin sense!

Yes of course taiwanese girls are not just snobby and cliquish. They are shy and inept as well. Zero social skills and zero confidence and shitty personality. Definitely the most boring girls on Earth. Totally impossible to connect with. Ive never understood how taiwanese couples connect or have any chemistry or connection.

Theres nothing with being shy. Thats not the problem. You see, a shy girl can still be approachable if they like you and are sweet. Many girls in Philippines are shy and when i flirt with them they blush and giggle. Even in Russia, many young girls act shy and sweet and blush. They dont treat me like i dont exist or act like im an annoying pest like taiwanese girls do.

In taiwan if youre a stranger, all girls under 40 years old will ignore u like u dont exist. Only the women that are 40 start to become more confident and relaxed. Totally sucks for sure. But this fact gets no media coverage outside this forum for some reason. Why does no one else state the obvious?????

Also when i bring up these subjects to locals in Taiwan that i make small talk with, they never deny that im right and always admit that im right. So im definitely not the only one that sees this, its just that no one else will bring up such a subject with others.

Yes taiwanese girls seem similar to korean girls. Similar vibe. Korean girls are like that too. They treat strangers like they dont exist. There are many korean girls in angeles city and they ignore all people except for their korean friends. Even rock was afraid to approach them when i challenged him to when he was in angeles city.

If you've been around korean girls then you know what i mean. They have a weird vibe too and an ice wall. It feels creepy to approach them or try to open up a conversation with them.

I dont understand why taiwanese girls like to dress so sexy and show off their legs and skin so much, if they arent looking to meet anyone. Do they enjoy being a cock tease? As the saying goes, "if you aren't in business, dont advertise."
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Postby MatureDJ » September 4th, 2017, 12:09 am

momopi wrote:Studio photos may not reflect actual appearance:

http://tw.nightlife141.com/zh/


These gals are really cute, like real live anime cartoons!
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Re: Taiwan massage parlors and brothels - scouting report

Postby momopi » October 23rd, 2017, 11:04 pm

With Taiwan girls if they are interested in you they will be more open and friendly, otherwise they won’t waste their time. Of all my ex GF’s the one who treated me the best AFTER the breakup is in Taiwan. After parting ways with my ex fiancé in 2008 she continued to send me funny and cheerful emails every week until 2011. She made sure that I was OK and talked to me when I was upset. She also offered to pay for a match making event in Taipei for me where they host 30 guys and 30 girls for speed dating. She meet her husband that way. Last week was her 40th b day and she was at the hospital isolation ward due to an infection. Fortunately it wasn’t serious and she was able to spend the weekend celebrating her B day with her son. I was very relieved at the news.

I was introduced to her at a wedding by her godmother who knew me for over a decade and vouched for me. Actually to be more precise I was setup as her rebound as she was still depressed from her previous breakup (she dated a younger coworker that her parents hated and forced the breakup). If I had saw her on the street and tried to hit on her she would probably have turned me down flat with my shitty cold pickup skillz. But her godmother insisted that I was good marriage material and spoke to her parents beforehand. Things didn’t work out but I would never be ungrateful to her. If you think this kind of relationship is bullsh*t or pathetic, don’t bother going to TW — wrong place for you.

While couples do meet and marry by themselves in TW the parents can sometimes have a large influence. I went to Kaoshung to attend my cousin in law’s wedding last year. They meet at work and the girl was HR department eye candy. The owner of the company knew the girl’s parents and personally intervened to put in a good word for my cousin to her parents. They were married within the year. @-@. I will dig up some photos for posting later.

As for P4P in Taiwan you really need to be able to read and communicate in Chinese for better access. JKF forum is a good resource with reviews, but be wary of bait and switch & fake reviews. You’re on your own for this one (don’t ask me to help).
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Postby momopi » October 24th, 2017, 3:46 pm

MatureDJ wrote:
momopi wrote:Studio photos may not reflect actual appearance:

http://tw.nightlife141.com/zh/


These gals are really cute, like real live anime cartoons!


Some of the photos are obviously fake and stolen from popular webcam/internet models in Taiwan.

The webcam girl market in TW pretty much crashed from too many girls and not enough customers. Some turned to semi nude/nude modeling to make a living. I think it may be possilbe to open a small photo studio and service to cater to the models, as their fan base are pervert men willing to pay to take photos in person. You would need to act as manager and bodyguard against hairy palmed fans and stalkers. But it’s a way to these girls who have little to no marketable work skills and possibly looking for a meal ticket.
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Re: Taiwan massage parlors and brothels - scouting report

Postby droid » October 24th, 2017, 5:32 pm

Winston wrote:Yes of course taiwanese girls are not just snobby and cliquish. They are shy and inept as well. Zero social skills and zero confidence and shitty personality. Definitely the most boring girls on Earth. Totally impossible to connect with. Ive never understood how taiwanese couples connect or have any chemistry or connection.

Theres nothing with being shy. Thats not the problem. You see, a shy girl can still be approachable if they like you and are sweet. Many girls in Philippines are shy and when i flirt with them they blush and giggle. Even in Russia, many young girls act shy and sweet and blush. They dont treat me like i dont exist or act like im an annoying pest like taiwanese girls do.

In taiwan if youre a stranger, all girls under 40 years old will ignore u like u dont exist. Only the women that are 40 start to become more confident and relaxed. Totally sucks for sure. But this fact gets no media coverage outside this forum for some reason. Why does no one else state the obvious?????

Yes taiwanese girls seem similar to korean girls. Similar vibe. Korean girls are like that too. They treat strangers like they dont exist. There are many korean girls in angeles city and they ignore all people except for their korean friends. Even rock was afraid to approach them when i challenged him to when he was in angeles city.

If you've been around korean girls then you know what i mean. They have a weird vibe too and an ice wall. It feels creepy to approach them or try to open up a conversation with them.


Some more loose thoughts here:

And ain't life a bitch in that the better looking ones are like this? Imagine if NE asians behaved like filipinas, and filipinas behaved like NE asians lol.
Still, those guys that went there in the 80's and 90's must've had a blast though.

The thing is those girls are all into familiarity and rapport, I see the dorkiest of guys with them because they share common activities. They're really not bad people I think, it's just that they need to see you four or five times to star recognizing you and at least saying hello. It is what it is.

One thing I do give Koreans is that despite the sexiness on the music videos, they are not into tattoos or piercings and are still conservative in some of those aspects, that's an awesome thing they still have, I respect that.

*I must add the caveat that there are conflicting reports though, everdred told me he would get stared at in Korea and that they were more social if they weren't the wealthy ones we see abroad.

This is a nice video about some of this




momopi wrote:I was introduced to her at a wedding by her godmother who knew me for over a decade and vouched for me. Actually to be more precise I was setup as her rebound as she was still depressed from her previous breakup (she dated a younger coworker that her parents hated and forced the breakup). If I had saw her on the street and tried to hit on her she would probably have turned me down flat with my shitty cold pickup skillz. But her godmother insisted that I was good marriage material and spoke to her parents beforehand. Things didn’t work out but I would never be ungrateful to her. If you think this kind of relationship is bullsh*t or pathetic, don’t bother going to TW — wrong place for you.


This is pretty much it, in a nutshell Winston. To "succeed" within these cultures you have to be slowly introduced and be a conformist willing to be the 11 hour shift salary man. No way around it I think.
1)Too much of one thing defeats the purpose.
2)Everybody is full of it. What's your hypocrisy?
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Re: Taiwan massage parlors and brothels - scouting report

Postby momopi » October 25th, 2017, 12:32 am

Well, if you looked like Kim woo-bin then you are exempt from slow introduction. Hehehehe

My mom’s ex boss (from TW) has 2 sons, both were into body building and had chocolate abs. They both married Korean hotties from UCLA.

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Re: Taiwan massage parlors and brothels - scouting report

Postby DanielLee5 » October 28th, 2017, 8:03 am

Thanks for the veeery interesting report, I am going to Taiwan this winter. The only time I visited spa was in Toronto ( at http://www.spaandskin.com/ ), the impressions are just the best. I always wanted to test out massage salons in Asia, it would be definitely amazing experience.
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