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Postby tre » Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:58 pm

Winston wrote:No. But I didn't ask for her number either. I was going with the flow and did not want to sound desperate or like I was hitting on her. Asking for her number is like trying to make a move. She was already relaxed when talking to me, so why should I create tension by doing that?

But she talked to me for almost four hours, longer than any other stripper ever has, and even got in trouble with the manager for it. How do you explain that?

I spent very little for what I got out of it. I've never seen a hot American girl that relaxed before, especially one that looks like a playboy bunny. She was not manipulative at all.

There was no cover charge there either. Maybe since it's a small town and it's the slow winter season, they are more relaxed. But when I went there years ago, it was also pretty relaxed too.


I agree that a strippers job is to make you feel like they are really into you...to make you fall in love with them. Whether it be long-term or short-term...it benefits her and the club. However, if you enjoyed it...why not keep going? If $20 (plus whatever you spend when she's on stage) isn't much for you here and there and she makes you feel good...go for it. Just don't be mistaken of her intentions. That discussion with her manager was likely a show so that she could come back and actually make some $$. I've known plenty of strippers in and out of strip clubs. She may like to talk to you because you weren't pushing yourself on to her like most guys do. Many strippers are lesbian so a non-aggressive guy is just what they prefer.
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Postby PeterAndrewNolan » Thu Nov 21, 2013 10:23 pm

Winston wrote:Last night at the strip club, I met this dancer who was tall, hot, sexy, sweet, 19 and blonde hair, blue eyes.


It is called infatuation...not love.

Though, I have had the experience of "love at first sight" so I am not saying it does not happen.....just that it is rare.

And 19? Really?

I met a 23 year old Romanian woman 18 months ago and she was the first one under 28 that I had met that actually had a brain inside her head. Most young women do not seem to have their head screwed on the right way any more....and I include eastern european women in that lot.
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Postby OutWest » Fri Nov 22, 2013 4:21 am

Grunt wrote:To boldly go where everyone has done before. Enjoy the herpes.






It's love! 8) Really...sounds a bit like being led to the slaughter...
I think dalliances with strippers are best kept to one's self...or you are likely to
never live it down. The affair is supposed to end after the lap dance...and to be forgotten
when you sober up....
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Postby Teal Lantern » Fri Nov 22, 2013 4:37 am

Winston wrote:She seemed to enjoy talking to me and liked having deep conversations and appreciated my unique out-of-the-box views on things, which she sometimes agreed with. She seemed glued to me and didn't want me to leave. She was not manipulative at all, but very relaxed and easy going.

Either she's new or, more likely, going for the long-term rinse.

Winston wrote:You can't blame me. lol

You should know better since 15~20 years ago.

Winston wrote:I know that strippers are supposed to be messed up and you should not develop any feelings for them. But last night this girl was a total exception. I never met a stripper like her before. She seemed sweet and blushed too, so she was not a typical cold bitchy American girl. It was very refreshing. She certainly seems like a gem.

Riiiight, a NAWALT disguised as a cubic zirconia.:roll:

Winston wrote:Anyway, I plan to go back and see her again. The strip clubs here are pretty relaxed without much pressure. So they are a good experience. And plus, $20 lap dances aren't that much to me. I can afford a few here and there.

Beta Buxx are a good experience for strippers.
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Postby Rock » Fri Nov 22, 2013 6:29 am

Winston wrote:No. But I didn't ask for her number either. I was going with the flow and did not want to sound desperate or like I was hitting on her. Asking for her number is like trying to make a move. She was already relaxed when talking to me, so why should I create tension by doing that?

But she talked to me for almost four hours, longer than any other stripper ever has, and even got in trouble with the manager for it. How do you explain that?

I spent very little for what I got out of it. I've never seen a hot American girl that relaxed before, especially one that looks like a playboy bunny. She was not manipulative at all.

There was no cover charge there either. Maybe since it's a small town and it's the slow winter season, they are more relaxed. But when I went there years ago, it was also pretty relaxed too.


I don't know anything but what I hear regarding US strip clubs. But there are guys who claim to pick-up girls there sometimes. Even some of the PU gurus claim to be good at it.

Anyway, it's not impossible for a very young girl to be into you. Sometimes girls that young are kinda weird and go for what you would least expect, even the hot ones. Don't the strip club girls go for the biggest loser sometimes. Remember that movie "Casino"? DeNiro's love was an example of that.

As I see it, you don't have a whole lot to loose (not much in the way of assets or saving and anyway u can play poor). Go back and make a play for her number and seeing her outside during her off hours. I know it's your dream to be with a tall, young, and hot white or NE Asian girl! So if she says yes, enjoy what you can get but watch out for the STDs if you think that risk is worth it. You could give her a token amount of compensation if she really goes and gives you a full on GFE. But certainly don't even think about paying anything close to the going rates, even those from 96' lol.

To be honest, I doubt you will get anywhere with this. But you never know. Might as well give it your best shot without investing too much time, emotion, or resources. You've been smitten lol. Second visit should be enough for you to figure it out! Best luck and be careful.
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Postby tre » Fri Nov 22, 2013 8:00 pm

It's possible to date a stripper (if you can handle her grinding on other dudes every night) and it's very possible to f**k them. I would say that f***ing a stripper is probably less dangerous than f***ing a bar girl...in general. It's amazing that so many here seem to be completely OK with f***ing bar girls or prostitutes and then bring up STD's with Strippers....lol. I wouldn't risk doing anything without a condom though...with either.

My prediction as that once you show stronger interest, she will pull away. However...no harm in trying. My Asian friend who pulls chicks effortlessly in Asia wants a white woman too. It makes no sense to me, except that perhaps he just wants what he can't have...
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Postby The_Adventurer » Sat Nov 23, 2013 6:55 pm

I think there is something to what tre says about showing interest. I had some adventures with strippers long ago. I wasn't really interested since I already knew my plans to make it to Asia. I hung out with them as friends. Sometimes there would be drinking and the shit would happen. There were a few, though... One was always taking me out to dinner, and she paid. Another would invite me to her place and cook for me and we'd watch movies all night. And sometimes shit would happen... They are still real people in the end.

What I don't get about this story, though, is that Winston has ALREADY BEEN ABROAD. And there are many places spoken on here he hasn't tried yet. What's the point of this time wasted with AW?! After my first month in the Phils, years ago, I could never walk into an American strip club, or probably in any western country. For the cost of the entry fee you could be banging a girl all night, then she'll clean your place in the morning and maybe even make you breakfast!

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Postby Winston » Sat Nov 23, 2013 7:56 pm

tre wrote:It's possible to date a stripper (if you can handle her grinding on other dudes every night) and it's very possible to f**k them. I would say that f***ing a stripper is probably less dangerous than f***ing a bar girl...in general. It's amazing that so many here seem to be completely OK with f***ing bar girls or hoes and then bring up STD's with Strippers....lol. I wouldn't risk doing anything without a condom though...with either.

My prediction as that once you show stronger interest, she will pull away. However...no harm in trying. My Asian friend who pulls chicks effortlessly in Asia wants a white woman too. It makes no sense to me, except that perhaps he just wants what he can't have...


Anything is "possible" but that doesn't mean it's probable. It's also "possible" to win the lottery too, but I wouldn't depend on it. But if it's so possible date or f**k a stripper, then why don't you write a book or manual on it? I'm sure many guys would like to know how. If you can't write a step by step guide on how to date strippers, then it's not as possible or easy as you think.

The_Adventurer wrote:I think there is something to what tre says about showing interest. I had some adventures with strippers long ago. I wasn't really interested since I already knew my plans to make it to Asia. I hung out with them as friends. Sometimes there would be drinking and the shit would happen. There were a few, though... One was always taking me out to dinner, and she paid. Another would invite me to her place and cook for me and we'd watch movies all night. And sometimes shit would happen... They are still real people in the end.

What I don't get about this story, though, is that Winston has ALREADY BEEN ABROAD. And there are many places spoken on here he hasn't tried yet. What's the point of this time wasted with AW?! After my first month in the Phils, years ago, I could never walk into an American strip club, or probably in any western country. For the cost of the entry fee you could be banging a girl all night, then she'll clean your place in the morning and maybe even make you breakfast!


How did you get the strippers to go out with you? It seems that everyone wants you Terrence. Girls seem to fall into your lap everywhere. lol

Why did you ask me such a narrow question? I didn't come all the way to America to go to strip clubs. I came here for the nature and fresh air. I've already told you that a BILLION TIMES! Going to a strip club while here is just a side show benefit to take advantage of while here. You should have deduced that.

Besides, the fact that AW are so damn unattainable to me makes them more desirable because of that, like you are reaching for an unattainable trophy, and when you touch it, it gives you a high, even if you don't get it in the end. You know what I mean?

In addition, deep down, we all want validation, and it would heal many of us from our hurt and rejection if somehow we found an AW to validate us and accept us, even if we know they are no good. It's a way to make up for the past you know?

Anyone here would be glad to date a hot AW if they could, just for the experience if nothing else. Come on. You know that. Get real.

Also, strip clubs are the only place I know of in the US where hot girls will talk to strangers. Outside of them in the US, girls keep to themselves and don't talk to strangers and act very snobby and closed. The only friendly people that talk to strangers here are older men and women. We all know that and have been over this many times here.

So in that sense, going to a strip club to talk to and touch a hot girl is better than nothing. Come on now. Can't you see the obvious big picture?
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Postby Dogboy86 » Sat Nov 23, 2013 10:30 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiESfkYop4E Hahahahaha!!! Oh ShIt!!!

Winston, its called being a "Hitching post" the girl clearly didn't want to work that night. Never underestimate these girls abilities to BS and make a guy feel needed or wanted, that's how they pay the bills. :)
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Postby Teal Lantern » Sat Nov 23, 2013 10:37 pm

Winston wrote:Besides, the fact that AW are so damn unattainable to me makes them more desirable because of that, like you are reaching for an unattainable trophy, and when you touch it, it gives you a high, even if you don't get it in the end. You know what I mean?
Like a prize at the carnival.

Winston wrote:In addition, deep down, we all want validation, and it would heal many of us from our hurt and rejection if somehow we found an AW to validate us and accept us, even if we know they are no good.
If a person is "no good", I want as little to do with them as possible.

Winston wrote:Anyone here would be glad to date a hot AW if they could, just for the experience if nothing else. Come on. You know that. Get real.
OK, I agree with this. I've said men should do it at least once, to get it out of their system.
Preferably before they get too fuggin' old, though. :razz:
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Postby Hero » Sat Nov 23, 2013 11:02 pm

Winston, if you want to date hot young women between 18 and 25, can't you find a nice college student somewhere instead of some bimbo at a strip joint? That's what I did. I found myself a cute, sexy, sweet 21-year-old woman in the Dominican Republic who's getting a degree in civil engineering and speaks English. She doesn't seem to mind at all that I'm 45. Yes, there's a chance that she's jerking me around, but I think you're taking a much bigger risk than I am.
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Postby marklambo » Sun Nov 24, 2013 8:17 am

Winston wrote:Guys,
I know you're going to flame me for this, but I think I'm in love... with a stripper. lol

Let me explain. Last night at the strip club, I met this dancer who was tall, hot, sexy, sweet, 19 and blonde hair, blue eyes. She was good looking enough to be a playboy bunny. The thing is, after I started talking to her, she sat with me the whole time, for like 4 hours, without hustling me for anything. That had never happened to me before at a strip club. Usually they hustle you for a lapdance after a while.

But she kept talking to me nonstop with no pressure. Every time she danced on stage, she would come back and sit with me dressed in a different sexy outfit. Each time I saw her approach me again, I would think "OWWW!" in my mind and look away to catch my breath. She was so smoking hot. I gave her a few dollars each time she danced on stage though, so she would at least get something out of it.

She seemed to enjoy talking to me and liked having deep conversations and appreciated my unique out-of-the-box views on things, which she sometimes agreed with. She seemed glued to me and didn't want me to leave. She was not manipulative at all, but very relaxed and easy going.

After about 4 hours, the manager got angry at her and called her to his office to tell her that she can't talk to a customer for a long time like that without asking for a lapdance. So I bought one lapdance from her before I left, which was only $20, to not get her in trouble.

Anyhow, the point, is when a perfect looking 19 year old blonde out of my dreams talks to me for that long (about 4 hours) and seems glued to me, without hustling me or any ulterior motive, and is so relaxed with me, and talks to me like she really enjoys talking to me, a guy can't help but "fall in love". So right now I feel bitten by the love bug. You can't blame me. lol

I know that strippers are supposed to be messed up and you should not develop any feelings for them. But last night this girl was a total exception. I never met a stripper like her before. She seemed sweet and blushed too, so she was not a typical cold bitchy American girl. It was very refreshing. She certainly seems like a gem.

I know I'll get flamed for saying all this. But in light of the circumstances, I'm sure you know that you can't blame me. :)

Anyway, I plan to go back and see her again. The strip clubs here are pretty relaxed without much pressure. So they are a good experience. And plus, $20 lap dances aren't that much to me. I can afford a few here and there.


If she's 19, that means that she works at one of the all nude strip clubs, De Ja Vu, Lil Darlings, etc. It's not uncommon for girls to hang around customers for a long time. I've experienced that with girls many times in the clubs. I even had girls leave the club to hang out with me after only knowing me for like 1 hour. The point is that you really need to be careful and not let your emotions clog your thinking. The girls can be hot but what you need to realize is that they are strippers for a reason. I know I'm generalizing and there's always that "exception" but you can't rely on it.

I have plenty of stripper friends that I've been friends with for years and dated many of them too so I'm well aware of how they can be. I'll tell you this right now...if you're not hanging out with her outside the club, or at least having phone call conversations on the regular, it's not real man. The fact that you are saying you plan to go visit her again in the club is bad news. You are ruining any chances that you may have if she is even for real about you. The moment money is exchanged or when a guy starts to frequent the club to visit the girl, the girl automatically looks at the guy as strictly a client. She'll make you feel wanted and all that good stuff but these girls are very good at what they do.

Also, if she spent 4 hours with you, it means that you were probably at the club during a slow time, early in the weekday, etc. Girls tend to spend more time with a guy during these times because there was probably not much money to be made. During these times are usually an advantage too, if you're trying to hook up with a stripper. But anyways, you really need to be careful man. If you plan on just trying to date her and bang her, by all means go for it, but don't ever try falling in love with one, or any AW for that matter. Don't be distracted by the nice tight body, ass, and tits. The moment you have your guard down, these girls will suck you dry before you even know it. Have fun but don't get emotional.
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Postby Teal Lantern » Sun Nov 24, 2013 8:42 am

W, if you're serious about this ...
Tariq Nasheed has done at least one show/podcast on dating these types of women....
... and his thoughts align with what marklambo (and most everyone else here) said.
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Postby Cornfed » Sun Nov 24, 2013 9:14 am

Is it just me, or does Winston seem to be hell-bent on being a sucker and doing stupid stuff? Winston might be the guy to approach if someone wants an investor in jackalope ranches or fur-bearing trout farms right now.
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Postby Repatriate » Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:49 am

Cornfed wrote:Is it just me, or does Winston seem to be hell-bent on being a sucker and doing stupid stuff? Winston might be the guy to approach if someone wants an investor in jackalope ranches or fur-bearing trout farms right now.

:lol:

Despite Winston claiming that he's a deep critical thinker he's incredibly gullible when it comes to strong personalities and smooth talking people. He has a long track record of listening to 2 bit con men and getting fleeced by women.

I think he'd be a great investor in my 2 legged stool factory. :lol:
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