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Postby Anthropolonerd » Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:46 am

drealm wrote:You are dating some very nice small boned girls. But you are also giant 6'1.. 200 lb? I don't know if scrawny men will have same batting average.

Supposing we put money and body fat on the same scale, how much money does a man need to be a 200lb giant like you?


Scrawny is one thing(skinnyfat trash), but a thinner athletic or at least fit guy with a more slender frame will probably have a better batting average due to Asians being more into that sort of thing. From what I know about Asian tastes (disclaimer: I haven't been yet) they prefer tall and slender with muscle definition (low fat) but not huge muscles, like Korean Drama actors (basically if you look like a white version of a korean drama actor I guess you'd be god there lol).

http://star.koreandrama.org/

This is as close as I've come to their "ideal" and they all have a generally similar look, too. I think that some westerners may have a bit too strong bone structure (large jaw and prominent, low-set forehead and eyebrows) which may reduce their batting average in places like HK, Taiwan, Jap and Korea (but probably less so in underdeveloped country because there may be a correlation between masculinity preference and level of economic development).

Anyway (this just as an aside and something to think about), western men tend to rate other men who are highly masculine very highly, and look up to them. It's innate in our desire to be as masculine as we can be. Especially Americans, but also many Europeans. From what I have seen of Asia, this is not the case there at all (in fact it is just the opposite, from what I know a lot of them hate for example men with body hair and find them gross and unevolved etc and very masculine Asian men are not the most succesful at dating there in comparison to those guys on the korean dramas).
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Postby chibolo » Tue Feb 11, 2014 5:19 pm

Anthropolonerd wrote:
drealm wrote:You are dating some very nice small boned girls. But you are also giant 6'1.. 200 lb? I don't know if scrawny men will have same batting average.

Supposing we put money and body fat on the same scale, how much money does a man need to be a 200lb giant like you?


Scrawny is one thing(skinnyfat trash), but a thinner athletic or at least fit guy with a more slender frame will probably have a better batting average due to Asians being more into that sort of thing. From what I know about Asian tastes (disclaimer: I haven't been yet) they prefer tall and slender with muscle definition (low fat) but not huge muscles, like Korean Drama actors (basically if you look like a white version of a korean drama actor I guess you'd be god there lol).

http://star.koreandrama.org/

This is as close as I've come to their "ideal" and they all have a generally similar look, too. I think that some westerners may have a bit too strong bone structure (large jaw and prominent, low-set forehead and eyebrows) which may reduce their batting average in places like HK, Taiwan, Jap and Korea (but probably less so in underdeveloped country because there may be a correlation between masculinity preference and level of economic development).

Anyway (this just as an aside and something to think about), western men tend to rate other men who are highly masculine very highly, and look up to them. It's innate in our desire to be as masculine as we can be. Especially Americans, but also many Europeans. From what I have seen of Asia, this is not the case there at all (in fact it is just the opposite, from what I know a lot of them hate for example men with body hair and find them gross and unevolved etc and very masculine Asian men are not the most succesful at dating there in comparison to those guys on the korean dramas).


Yeah, I think Asia is ideal for skinny/thin guys. I look pretty close to those Korean guys maybe I should go to Asia too...
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Postby J_master » Thu Jul 03, 2014 9:53 pm

There are so many Phils girls in HK that any guy can do well over there. I saw ugly old guys walking with cute women around central station and in the pubs.. Just meet a few on CB then get on the plane and go. Don't talk too long before going to visit. Hotels are small and a bit expensive. Get an octopus card so you can travel the bus and other transportation. Remember that most women are working and get one day off per week so meet a few with different off days. Don't believe too much you read on this site, just go and find out on your own. The phils girls will treat you well if your a good guy.
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Postby zboy1 » Thu Jul 03, 2014 10:10 pm

J_master wrote:There are so many Phils girls in HK that any guy can do well over there. I saw ugly old guys walking with cute women around central station and in the pubs.. Just meet a few on CB then get on the plane and go. Don't talk too long before going to visit. Hotels are small and a bit expensive. Get an octopus card so you can travel the bus and other transportation. Remember that most women are working and get one day off per week so meet a few with different off days. Don't believe too much you read on this site, just go and find out on your own. The phils girls will treat you well if your a good guy.


I made similar observations during my time in Hong Kong; there's lot of single and lonely Filipina maids here, for the taking. I figured if Chinese girls don't work out for me--I would get a Filipino girl instead in Hong Kong.
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Postby E Irizarry R&B Singer » Fri Jul 04, 2014 4:08 am

zboy1 wrote:
J_master wrote:There are so many Phils girls in HK that any guy can do well over there. I saw ugly old guys walking with cute women around central station and in the pubs.. Just meet a few on CB then get on the plane and go. Don't talk too long before going to visit. Hotels are small and a bit expensive. Get an octopus card so you can travel the bus and other transportation. Remember that most women are working and get one day off per week so meet a few with different off days. Don't believe too much you read on this site, just go and find out on your own. The phils girls will treat you well if your a good guy.


I made similar observations during my time in Hong Kong; there's lot of single and lonely Filipina maids here, for the taking. I figured if Chinese girls don't work out for me--I would get a Filipino girl instead in Hong Kong.


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Postby MrBlueLight » Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:42 am

So did you sleep with all these lads? How are HK women's skills in bed? Are they hairy down there like Asian women from other countries?
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Postby chanta76 » Tue Aug 26, 2014 2:50 pm

Do the local guys jealous because the expat guys are taking all the girls?
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Postby MrMan » Tue Aug 26, 2014 6:40 pm

I've been to Hong Kong for a few days on a business trip. I've also been back and forth to Singapore on visa runs from Indonesia over the many years I lived in the Jakarta area.

I don't know what Hong Kong women are like, really. The people from the company I worked for seemed to have a kind of host mentality, took me out, and were very friendly. I was married. I think most of the women were. I get the impression that they are 'modern and professional' women. I don't know how feminist they are.

Hong Kong also has Filippina and Indonesian maids. Maids go hang out in certain areas on Sunday afternoon.

I liked Hong Kong. My hotel was paid by my company. Food was reasonably priced, depending on where you ate, and clothing was cheap. I understand that real estate is expensive. Some people say the reason the streets of Hong Kong are full of people walking around until midnight is because their apartments are so small. :) My hotel room was nice, fancy, but still a bit small. They put me up in a really nice hotel.

I could see how someone could find a good wife, there.

What I've heard of Singapore is that it is hard to get married there. Some of the Chinese men import wives from places like Vietnam or mainland China. That may be the taxi drivers. Women want professional men. The government tries to get people to marry so the society will reproduce. My guess is they want to keep up their Chinese population, the majority now. But it ma not be the majority if the Chinese people there don't have some babies.

I've also heard the stereotypes of women being materialistic and career oriented. But there are also all those immigrants from Malaysia and Indonesia, too, whether Chinese or some sort of ethnic Malay-related people-group. You might be able to marry a girl who was raised in Malay or Indonesian culture with their family values.

I knew an Indian woman who I thought was kind of an exotic beauty who is from Singapore. She'd gotten up to be middle aged without marrying. She'd worked in the US and dated a man, but that didn't turn into marriage.

She told me the problem of the Singaporean Indian woman. Indian men can marry Chinese women if they want to. But Indian girls don't date the way the general population does and their families are conservative. So a lot of them end up not married, not getting arranged in marriage.

I haven't seen a lot about Indian women here, but that could be some kind of niche to find a wife there. Get to know an Indian family that has a beautiful daughter of marrying age. They could be in high demand.

And what this woman said of Indian women might have been more true of her generation than the current one.

About Malaysian men beating up white guys who were kissing Malays in a bar, I lived in Indonesia, which has some of the same people-groups as Malaysia. I've never heard of that stuff happening in Indonesia. But when I was there, PDA, was not really something to be engaged in. I wouldn't recommend it, but I haven't heard of violence from it. I have heard of sleazy bars. A friend of mine went there with business contacts. The men would grab, squeeze, etc. the local girls who went there. The guy asked his secretary to stand close so people would think they were a couple and not put their hands on them.
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Postby MrBlueLight » Thu Aug 28, 2014 11:47 pm

chanta76 wrote:Do the local guys jealous because the expat guys are taking all the girls?


If you are, feel free to go shoot some.
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Postby chanta76 » Fri Aug 29, 2014 4:32 pm

Mr bluelight,

I think that will change the landscape in Asia. If Asian guys started to attack foreign guys hitting on local women. It's kind of like a double standard where here in the states I had Asian male friends date or approach non-Asian girls and get cock block or get into fights.. I had one Korean friend who had a black girl friend and pretty much everybody gave them shit for it and ..they broke up.

But in Asia the way you made China sound you have local Asian guys buying drinks for foreign guys and telling them go f**k the local girls. Where as in the western world if your an Asian guys and you want to date a white girl ..white guys will just cock block you.
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Postby zboy1 » Fri Aug 29, 2014 4:58 pm

chanta76 wrote:Mr bluelight,

I think that will change the landscape in Asia. If Asian guys started to attack foreign guys hitting on local women. It's kind of like a double standard where here in the states I had Asian male friends date or approach non-Asian girls and get cock block or get into fights.. I had one Korean friend who had a black girl friend and pretty much everybody gave them shit for it and ..they broke up.

But in Asia the way you made China sound you have local Asian guys buying drinks for foreign guys and telling them go f**k the local girls. Where as in the western world if your an Asian guys and you want to date a white girl ..white guys will just cock block you.


Yup! And, if the situation was reversed, then it's racism. Westerners love to yell "racism" towards Asian countries, but neglect to see the racism Asians face in Western countries.
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Postby Repatriate » Sat Aug 30, 2014 2:14 am

zboy1 wrote:
chanta76 wrote:Mr bluelight,

I think that will change the landscape in Asia. If Asian guys started to attack foreign guys hitting on local women. It's kind of like a double standard where here in the states I had Asian male friends date or approach non-Asian girls and get cock block or get into fights.. I had one Korean friend who had a black girl friend and pretty much everybody gave them shit for it and ..they broke up.

But in Asia the way you made China sound you have local Asian guys buying drinks for foreign guys and telling them go f**k the local girls. Where as in the western world if your an Asian guys and you want to date a white girl ..white guys will just cock block you.


Yup! And, if the situation was reversed, then it's racism. Westerners love to yell "racism" towards Asian countries, but neglect to see the racism Asians face in Western countries.


It's a double standard with liberals too. They will celebrate the degenerate aspects of black and latino culture but they will condemn or downplay hardworking immigrants from Asia, middle east, or the sub continent. This is why America has become such garbage. It's not really about merit or anything else it's about how you play the game.
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Postby Jester » Sat Aug 30, 2014 2:52 am

GooMacgle wrote:
Been to Singapore many times, but mainly on 1 or 2 week stints at a time, not on a long term ex-pat assignment. I really like Singapore and would move there in a heartbeat for the right opportunity. ...........

The pros of Singapore are:

- it's a first rate country and you most times do not feel like you are giving up any of your western lifestyle while living in Singapore
- it's probably the most diverse place in Asia and better yet, all the different groups actually seem to get along with each other just fine
- it's a very orderly place - very clean, very low crime, very low public disturbances, etc - mainly due to the government being very strict
- most people are bilingual and the majority of people speak English, so you can get around just fine speaking only English
- it's a fairly compact place and you can either walk, take a taxi, or take the subway - it's easy to get around, I walk most places when I'm there
- there are lots of attractions there and you can be in tourist mode exploring all the attractions for quite some time
- plenty of beautiful women there and there seems to be a man shortage in Singapore. Also lots of professional business women there if you like that type, which I do, but they are still very feminine, unlike their American counterparts.

The cons of Singapore are:

- it's expensive - it helps to be on some kind of expat program there to make the economics work. Also like much of Asia, unless you are working with a local who can get you the local price on most things, you will wind up paying the expat/foreigner price for many things unless you negotiate like crazy.
- many women there are all about the money, you definitely have to weed out the gold digger types. Good girls exist - similar to your HK cutie, but most of them are not hanging out where the expats hang out and my buddies who married great women there all met their wives through mutual introductions.
- Singapore is not the place to get in trouble with the strict Singapore government. For most people, this is not an issue, but if like to ignore the rules, this may not be the place for you.
- it's a tropical climate. In the middle of winter in the US right now, it's upper 80s and 90s in Singapore right now and it's fairly humid most days. Your body acclimates with time, but the heat and humidity can be overpowering at times.
- alcohol is very expensive in Singapore - credit the local government trying to deter the locals from getting hooked I guess. They do something similar with gambling there where the locals have to pay a hefty entrance fee to enter the casino, while the foreigners and tourists can enter for free. ..................



Great report on Singapore! Thanks!

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Postby MrBlueLight » Mon Sep 01, 2014 7:39 am

chanta76 wrote:Mr bluelight,

I think that will change the landscape in Asia. If Asian guys started to attack foreign guys hitting on local women. It's kind of like a double standard where here in the states I had Asian male friends date or approach non-Asian girls and get cock block or get into fights.. I had one Korean friend who had a black girl friend and pretty much everybody gave them shit for it and ..they broke up.

But in Asia the way you made China sound you have local Asian guys buying drinks for foreign guys and telling them go f**k the local girls. Where as in the western world if your an Asian guys and you want to date a white girl ..white guys will just cock block you.


Like I said, feel free to go do something about it. Go cockblock some white guys instead of sounding butthurt whining on an internet forum.
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Summer of 2014

Postby Travelin Man » Wed Sep 24, 2014 2:48 am

Alright guys I'm back! I've been out for a bit, had some personal problems, and
haven't logged in here for a while. Didn't think I was going to go back to Asia
anytime soon, but now I'm already planning another trip!

I have some money saved up and am looking to set up an affiliate marketing business
to support my traveling. I've also been looking into doing a drop shipping business
using Ebay. If anyone has any experience please message me!

Meanwhile in the US, I've been batting my usual 5 - 7s and haven't really found
any girl worth mentioning. My mind is still with the girls I was dating in Asia. I've
been keeping in touch with as many as I could and one of them actually came to visit
me last summer!

Below are some pictures of when we were dating in Hong Kong and then when she came to
visit me in USA. We took a big road trip to Santa Monica and Las Vegas. On the way
we stopped by Universal Studios, rented a McClaren P1, gambled and saw some cool shows
like David Copperfield. It was the best summer ever :)

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