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Re: Winston is in Hong Kong now!

Postby xiongmao » Wed Mar 04, 2015 4:50 pm

Yeah, as the others have said, don't stay in Shenzhen. Shenzhen is clean and safe - they have carpets in the buses there you know...

Shenzhen - Guangzhou is about an hour by high(ish) speed train. There may be two lines now, but I never used the one that goes to Guangzhou South as it was full to capacity (lol!).

Guangzhou has plenty of old sites - in one place you can see Chairman Mao's bed. Also there's the waterfront with the hospital that lets its patients roam up and down the promenade. Falcon liked Xiaobei with the African/Arab influences and I liked walking around the European influenced Shamian Island to spot all the couples getting their wedding photos taken.

There's plenty more there though. How big is Guangzhou? When I was there they were building 10 - yes ten! - new metro lines. In Barcelona we only have 8 lines in total.
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Re: Winston going to China next week!

Postby Winston » Mon Mar 09, 2015 5:53 pm

Travelin Man wrote:Hey Winston I'm coming back to Hong Kong in May. How long will you be there? Are you going back to Phil?

I'm bringing a friend with me from the US and we will go to Hong Kong, Macau and maybe Shenzhen for the summer. Then we will head over to Singapore where will try to get jobs and make a living. Let me know if you want to meet up. You should take Diane to Singapore one of these days. I'm sure she will enjoy it.


We were only there for two weeks. I went to China afterward. Let me know when you come to China. Why Singapore? What does Singapore have to offer tourists? Dianne went back to Philippines already.

xiongmao wrote:I think Winston should come here to Spain and learn how to relax a bit. Also the food here is amazing, meat is worshipped and there are shops that sell nothing but dried and preserved meat.

I did like Hong Kong though. I didn't know what to make of it at first but it definitely grew on me. The temples are great, and there was more of a spiritual side to the place that was missing over the border in the mainland.


What are you smoking? There is nothing spiritual about Hong Kong. It is a hustle and bustle highly expensive commercial city that is all about materialism and money. Everyone knows that. What are you smoking? You say a lot of things that make no sense.
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Re: Winston going to China next week!

Postby WorldTraveler » Mon Mar 09, 2015 6:10 pm

WorldTraveler wrote:
Travelin Man wrote:
I'm bringing a friend with me from the US and we will go to Hong Kong, Macau and maybe Shenzhen for the summer. Then we will head over to Singapore where will try to get jobs and make a living. Let me know if you want to meet up. You should take Diane to Singapore one of these days. I'm sure she will enjoy it.


Please keep me informed. I'm also interested in working in that part of the world in IT. :D


Singapore is the most expensive city in the World. Do the salaries compensate for these high expenses?

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Re: Winston going to China next week!

Postby WorldTraveler » Mon Mar 09, 2015 6:12 pm

Winston wrote:
Travelin Man wrote:Hey Winston I'm coming back to Hong Kong in May. How long will you be there? Are you going back to Phil?

I'm bringing a friend with me from the US and we will go to Hong Kong, Macau and maybe Shenzhen for the summer. Then we will head over to Singapore where will try to get jobs and make a living. Let me know if you want to meet up. You should take Diane to Singapore one of these days. I'm sure she will enjoy it.


We were only there for two weeks. I went to China afterward. Let me know when you come to China. Why Singapore? What does Singapore have to offer tourists? Dianne went back to Philippines already.

xiongmao wrote:I think Winston should come here to Spain and learn how to relax a bit. Also the food here is amazing, meat is worshipped and there are shops that sell nothing but dried and preserved meat.

I did like Hong Kong though. I didn't know what to make of it at first but it definitely grew on me. The temples are great, and there was more of a spiritual side to the place that was missing over the border in the mainland.


What are you smoking? There is nothing spiritual about Hong Kong. It is a hustle and bustle highly expensive commercial city that is all about materialism and money. Everyone knows that. What are you smoking? You say a lot of things that make no sense.


The reason Travin Man and myself are looking at Singapore is good jobs.

How about posting a trip report about China? Are you still there?
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Re: Winston is in Hong Kong now!

Postby Winston » Mon Mar 09, 2015 6:18 pm

droid wrote:You seem addicted to drama and over-complication Winston, starting with the vegetarian stuff.
You saved on the ATM fee but now you have to dispute the 15 bucks, including your time, which is worth A LOT more than that. That's why I put up with the debit atm fees, so i don't have to deal with dispute dramas. I take out as much as the thing will give me, say U$300 and pay $5 in my case, that's like 1.6% although in your case it would be 3%. I then put most of it away for the rest of the week or whatnot.
I've also been lucky that a couple dudes here needed to buy some stuff on ebay, so i would buy it for them and then they would just give me the pesos here.

Edit: I think i will get an HSBC international account before i head to China. It costs $200 bucks to open i believe and i think there's no withdrawal fees, and a lot more flexibility with less security blocking problems.

If I have cash and don't like something i can simply walk out of a place, although i never run into problems; i'm easy going man, if they bring me the wrong soup i'll take it as i eat almost everything. I value my time and peace.


Of course I am a perfectionist and anal about little things. If I wasn't like that, this site would suck and would not work. It takes a perfectionist to run large websites like this. You cannot just walk out of a restaurant if they've overcharged you. You gotta dispute it or overpay. What do you mean you never run into problems? Everyone has problems sometimes. That doesn't make sense.

I have a right to complain about stuff that's wrong or inappropriate. Why do you believe that no complaining should be allowed? Even if it's justified and logical?
I did post positive stuff. I said HK is clean and safe and looks modern and has great tasting food. Didn't you read?


You have a great point in that complaining should help improve things, but i also believe that in a free market you just vote with your feet and don't come back nor recommend the place and they should go out of business, without fuss.
Again, the overhead in time and energy is not worth it, you might as well put it in your business venture or what not.
One hour of you complaining might get you back a few bucks and some face, but the same hour put in the forum etc might represent hundreds/thousands for you. Choose your fights.

Maybe you are jealous that you have no credit cards cause most of you guys have no credit cause you spend recklessly like most white guys do.

What the hell? lol :mrgreen: what does that even mean man?
Like I was telling you in another thread, my policy is just to simplify, simplify, simplify.

I think since my background is in engineering i always account for a percentage of "losses" due to "friction", uncertainties, and people's f* ups. Once that's accepted and allotted i don't worry about it anymore. Lol


Yeah but you also gotta consider that people with a lot of anger and deep resentment, like me and many here, tend to attract a lot of rude angry people and situations, because angry people incite other angry people. That's why people who harbor deep anger and resentment tend to have a high percentage of experiences running into rude people and experiences. They put out negative energy and attract it, and also they incite others to be rude too.
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Re: Winston is in Hong Kong now!

Postby Winston » Mon Mar 09, 2015 6:39 pm

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eurobrat wrote:Did you seriously pay for your lunch with an American credit card in China?


Well, here in Japan, credit card payment became very popular - 20 years ago this was a rarity, limited to some expensive hotels, airlines etc.

Today you can pay even a cheap lunch with a credit card or buying some items in a supermarket or pay the taxi bill for a short ride etc.

I cannot comment about HongKong however, but I think the situation might be similar to Japan.

Snacks for payment are not so unusual in restaurants in some places in Asia. Usually the staff brings a basket with items/pricelist and if you take one item out and open it or take it with you, you will be charged for it, same with snacks in hotel rooms.

Today many cheap restaurants and business hotels in Japan are using vending machines for drinks and snacks.


You don't seem to understand what we are talking about. I wasn't talking about dim sum on a snack cart being hauled around. I was talking about free appetizers in restaurants. It's universally understood that if a restaurant puts something on a table for you without you asking for it, that it's a free appetizer. Everyone knows this. But it doesn't apply in Hong Kong or China I'm told.

For example, Mexican restaurants give you free chips and salsa without you asking for it. Korean restaurants give you many free appetizers, even in the Philippines they do. And Chinese restaurants usually give you free hot tea. Something placed on your table when you sit down in a restaurant is usually complimentary. Everyone knows this. It's common sense. But it's not true in Hong Kong and China it seems.

Do you understand the situation now?

I don't understand why many guys here twist and misunderstand things so easily here. Usually there is very little misunderstanding between intelligent educated men.
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Re: Winston is in Hong Kong now!

Postby xiongmao » Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:31 pm

Here in Barcelona I'm happy to report my free bread basket in the Italian restaurant really was free. Really I should have just ate that and not ordered my meal, as the bread was very delicious.
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Re: Winston going to China next week!

Postby Travelin Man » Sat Mar 14, 2015 3:59 am

Winston wrote:
Travelin Man wrote:Hey Winston I'm coming back to Hong Kong in May. How long will you be there? Are you going back to Phil?

I'm bringing a friend with me from the US and we will go to Hong Kong, Macau and maybe Shenzhen for the summer. Then we will head over to Singapore where will try to get jobs and make a living. Let me know if you want to meet up. You should take Diane to Singapore one of these days. I'm sure she will enjoy it.


We were only there for two weeks. I went to China afterward. Let me know when you come to China. Why Singapore? What does Singapore have to offer tourists? Dianne went back to Philippines already.

xiongmao wrote:I think Winston should come here to Spain and learn how to relax a bit. Also the food here is amazing, meat is worshipped and there are shops that sell nothing but dried and preserved meat.

I did like Hong Kong though. I didn't know what to make of it at first but it definitely grew on me. The temples are great, and there was more of a spiritual side to the place that was missing over the border in the mainland.


What are you smoking? There is nothing spiritual about Hong Kong. It is a hustle and bustle highly expensive commercial city that is all about materialism and money. Everyone knows that. What are you smoking? You say a lot of things that make no sense.


Singapore has the best quality of life in Asia and it lacks the pollution that other cities have. It's also a big playground for adults with lots of sightseeing, nice beaches and fun things to do. The women are beautiful too and you can always take trips to Kuala Lumpur and Indonesia for a weekend getaway.

The problem is going to be cost of living like you said. I am hoping that that US dollar will continue to climb against the Singapore dollar in which case my reserves will last me a long time until I can find work there to pay the rent.
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Re: Winston going to China next week!

Postby publicduende » Sat Mar 14, 2015 6:32 pm

Travelin Man wrote:Singapore has the best quality of life in Asia and it lacks the pollution that other cities have. It's also a big playground for adults with lots of sightseeing, nice beaches and fun things to do. The women are beautiful too and you can always take trips to Kuala Lumpur and Indonesia for a weekend getaway.

The problem is going to be cost of living like you said. I am hoping that that US dollar will continue to climb against the Singapore dollar in which case my reserves will last me a long time until I can find work there to pay the rent.


Singapore is a playground if you have a lot of money. If you're on a modest non-expat salary, say 80K SGD a year or less, even if you're single you will find it hard to have the happy go lucky lifestyle made of cocktail bars, luxury hotel lounges and fine international dining. Having said that, one doesn't have to stick to the upper echelon of socialising and nightlife.

One could date Vietnamese or Burmese students, Filipina workers and maids, dine with them at a hawker (food court) and grab beers in the seedier (but cheaper) areas around Little India and Geylang. The latter is, coincidentally, the bigger red light district in town.

Syncing with Singapore's warm underbelly is definitely doable and many of you would probably find it more exciting and sustainable than splashing thousands on expensive whiskey and stiff upper lip divas. Yet, if I had to do that, I'd rather do it in Manila or Bangkok. It would have a different, more genuine vibe at least.

I lived in Singapore for a few months in 2008/9 and have to disagree with Travelin Man: the women of Singapore are far from beautiful. They might have all the money and class in the world, but most of them will be short and stocky, with bad facial skin (due to acne + heat combo in their youth) and pretty materialistic and success-obsessed. The better looking ones are definitely the "imported ones" from neighbouring Malaysia (Chinese or Malay ethnicity), India, Indonesia or the Philippines.
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Re: Winston going to China next week!

Postby Travelin Man » Sun Mar 29, 2015 7:04 pm

publicduende wrote:
I lived in Singapore for a few months in 2008/9 and have to disagree with Travelin Man: the women of Singapore are far from beautiful. They might have all the money and class in the world, but most of them will be short and stocky, with bad facial skin (due to acne + heat combo in their youth) and pretty materialistic and success-obsessed. The better looking ones are definitely the "imported ones" from neighbouring Malaysia (Chinese or Malay ethnicity), India, Indonesia or the Philippines.


That's not what I'm seeing online. I've already set up dating profiles in Singapore and have met some really attractive women. I'll make sure to keep you posted once I get there though. I'll write a trip report and post the women that I'm able to pull so you guys can decide for yourself.
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Re: Winston is in Hong Kong now!

Postby Travelin Man » Sat Apr 18, 2015 4:19 pm

Winston wrote:
droid wrote:
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Winston wrote:Btw, there are many white guys here who look like Edward Snowden that have hot Chinese girlfriends. They must be computer programmer corporate geeks. lol


I'm glad things haven't changed since last time I was there.
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Re: Winston is in Hong Kong now!

Postby Winston » Tue May 19, 2015 9:20 am

At a hostel in Hong Kong, I experienced the cult of political correctness.

A Spanish woman there told me that "Hong Kong people are so friendly" because one older woman treated her to food and showed her around. However, this didn't take into account that the number of RUDE UNFRIENDLY people in Hong Kong greatly OUTNUMBER the number of friendly people. So technically, most people were not friendly in HK. But that's how politically correct types operate. If they meet one friendly person out of 100 unfriendly cold people, they will say that people in the WHOLE country are friendly! WTF? Go figure. Bizarre logic. But that's how they think. They prefer to "focus on the positive and ignore the negative" as they say. So they are selective of what they focus on and will admit it. However, isn't that ignoring reality? I mean if HK has more rude people than friendly people, why can't one be honest about that?

The Danish managers of the hostel were the same way. Any negative thing you said, no matter how true, made them look uncomfortable. If you said that the museums in Europe are far better than in Asia (which everyone knows is true) that still makes them uncomfortable because it's a negative comparison, which is taboo. Around most people, you gotta be positive and superficial, and not talk about anything deep or negative in the slightest. Otherwise it makes them awkward. Very weird. How did the mainstream get to be like this?!

Also, when I told the Danish hostel managers that most young people in HK didn't speak good English, only rudimentary English, and could not understand me, they countered me by saying that they met many young people in HK who spoke very fluent English and never had a problem communicating. Yeah right. Bullshit. I talked to a lot of random people and that's not what I experienced.

Yet the law of political correctness says that you are not allowed to say anything negative, no matter how true, and most people obey this. Why? Why are mainstream people so weird? Why don't mainstream people LOVE TRUTH, like philosophers do?

The thing is, if someone always says that "everything is great" then you can't really trust their opinion because it has no meaning and isn't credible. So if they tell you that a new restaurant or movie is "great" then you can't trust their opinion, because to them, everything is great (even if it isn't). However, if someone who is usually negative about everything tells you that something is great, such as a new restaurant or movie, then his/her opinion is more significant, because if a negative person thinks something great, then it carries more weight and must really be. Why don't fake positive people realize that?

That's why people who try to always be positive and politically correct in order to be liked, are not credible and their opinions carry no weight. Just like if someone loves everyone, and then that person loves you too, that love has no meaning. Likewise, if someone hates everyone because they're a misanthrope, and then that person hates you too, you won't take it personally since he/she hates everyone else too.

That's something to keep in mind if you decide to become politically correct and only say positive things about everything, in order to join the mainstream. This politically correct movement of saying that "everything is always great" started in the 1990's and is super fake and superficial. I don't get the appeal of it, but most people seem to comply and conform to it. I don't get why.
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Re: In Hong Kong now - Winston and Dianne

Postby Winston » Tue Sep 15, 2015 7:24 pm

Hi all,
I uploaded the photos of me and Dianne in Hong Kong to our HA Shutterfly Site. These are the ones from my portable camera. There are many more from my smart phone that I will upload later. Here is the link. To view all thumbnails on one page, click "All" above the album.

Hong Kong 2015 - Portable Camera Images
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Re: Winston going to China next week!

Postby falcon garson » Fri Sep 18, 2015 6:21 am

Winston! I hope till yet you have been back from your China tour. If yes, then let me know what will you say about the culture of China? I heard little about it but have no personal experience and would like to hear from you.
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Re: In Hong Kong now - Winston and Dianne

Postby Winston » Sat Sep 19, 2015 4:57 am

Update:

I've uploaded the smart phone photos that I took in Hong Kong when I was there with Dianne. There are over 1,000 images so I've divided them into two parts. Enjoy.

Hong Kong 2015 - Smart Phone Images Part 1
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Hong Kong 2015 - Smart Phone Images Part 2
https://happierabroad.shutterfly.com/pictures/2990
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