Queretaro Mexico Trip Report
Posted: March 16th, 2015, 6:24 pm
Day 1
I arrived in Queretaro at 1am on a Saturday night. The town is dead at this hour, most restaurants are closed. Only a few clubs are open. The nightlife is a lot less than Tijuana. I can read this two different ways. The first is that all the good girls stay home at night. The second is that there’s no night life good or bad. I’m not planning to find a wife at 1am in the morning but a little more activity would of been reassuring. I’ll see what the daylight holds for this city.
Day 2
I woke up today and found the streets packed, so there’s no shortage of people to meet on sidewalks. I spent the first part of the day sitting in parks and watching women walk by. There are plenty of women that look nice, especially to someone who’s starving for companionship. But I felt I would not be doing myself justice by picking the first woman who smiles at me. I feel that I can always start with a higher standard and then lower it. Most of the women here are mayan or mestiza looking. My first choice would be a light skinned looking wife with European features. Most light skinned women that I do see are very average or fat. A good looking light skinned Mexicana is rare.
After observing the park for a while the conclusion came to me that mayans go to parks and plazas because this is where free entertainment is. To avoid this group I went to a very upscale mall where you need to pay to get in. The mall is called Antea Lifestyle Center. Antea was built in 2014 and it’s the second largest mall in Mexico. It has many upscale brands such as Armani, Victorias Secret, Mac, etc. The mall has more middle class, whiter, prettier looking, better dressed women. I’m guessing these women don’t like rubbing shoulders with the poor and that’s why they come here. So it’s unlikely you’ll ever see the same women in the mall as in the parks. It’s unfortunate that after carefully picking a city in Mexico with beautiful 400 year old plazas and parks I will need to avoid these beautiful spaces in favor of a sterile commercial mall built in 2014.
Once I got to the Antea mall I did my first female approach in my life. I’m 28 years old and I have never approached a woman so this was a new experience. She was extremely attractive. I googled her name later and found out she was in some contest called Mexico Miss Universe. At the end of our short conversation she reluctantly gave me her facebook and phone number.
When I called her later it turned out to be a fake number. I also sent a message on facebook but got no response. I learned from this exchange that I’m not good at approaching or reading women. Some men have lots of experience with this, but I don’t. My body physically reacts to approaching women by causing my hands to shake uncontrollably. I lost a lot of confidence with her rebuffing me. She also pissed me off. I wanted to go to a bull fight and visualize her as a bull being slaughtered.
I’m not sure what my other options are at this point besides directly approaching women. I can meet someone through a friend or use a dating website. My self imposed problem is that I want an above average looking woman. Above average looking women don’t use dating websites. I also don’t have any local friends.
Since there are no other options besides directly approaching women I will do the same thing I did today. I will sit in the mall and when I see an above average light skinned Mexican woman I will approach her. I will approach only the top 1% of women. There is no point in going through the traveling cost, learning a language and the pain of approaching and hurting my confidence for a small prize.
I have no interest in the act of approaching itself as a skill that has intrinsic value. This is something I want to do once for a specific purpose of finding a wife and then never do again. When I approach women I will not use any techniques, or scripts or put a lot of thought into it. I will open my mouth, words will come out, I will use direct questions, women will respond. I will not fight their response. They accept me or they don’t and that is it. I will quickly move on after each rejection and hopefully there won’t be too many. I will aim to approach 3 women a day for the remainder of my trip. I will adjust the quota as needed.
Day 3
Today is Monday. Weekdays suck in Queretaro. I went back to the Antea mall today with the idea of approaching women all day. But there were no people there. I saw over 1000 people on Sunday but less than 50 today. A security guard said this is how it is everyday except Friday, Saturday and Sunday.
When I didn’t see any customers I decided to look for pretty sales girls and act like I was buying something. Strangely almost every sales person was a man. Even the Victoria’s Secret store was run by a man. So I gave up and left the mall.
I went back to the hotel and brainstormed places to meet women. I decided to try Starbucks because for whatever reason this seems to be a status symbol in the third world. I went to two different Starbucks. The first had no women the second had more. But none of them were attractive enough to approach.
Later I went looking for a restaurant. Everything closes around 10pm here. This is a very sleepy town. I eventually find a restaurant. The waiter starts chatting with me and tells me where he’s from. He’s a mayan looking waiter from somewhere down south. He said he came to Queretaro for jobs because it’s a rich state and that’s also what a lot of other Mayan people do. So the corollary here is don’t choose a growing city that needs cheap labor, because most of the population will be ugly poor people.
Tomorrow I will try two new places. I need to exchange dollars for pesos. So I will try finding a bank with pretty female tellers to flash a lot of money in front of. Then I may go to a cinema. I don’t want to watch movies but most cinemas here cost $5 usd per ticket. Since it costs a lot maybe only middle class white girls will be there.
Day 4
I spent the first part of the day going to every bank in the city to find pretty tellers. This took up the bulk of my day and I didn’t find any. Then I went back to Starbucks. Again I didn’t see anyone. Then I strolled through the UAM university to look at the female students but didn’t see anyone. I didn’t get around to going to a cinema, but I don’t think it’s a good hunting ground anyways. I’m out of options at this point.
I ate dinner at another restaurant and another waiter enlightened me about the demographics of Queretaro. He said that 80% of the population is from other states. This is apparently a recent development due to economic growth and safety. So this is another confirmation that Queretaro was once whiter but has only recently become more native.
If I was to reevaluate the genetic break down I would say 95% of the women in the streets are native or mestiza. Only 5% look very light skinned. The 5% that do look light skinned are fairly average looking. Only 1 out of 500 women in the streets are attractive light skinned women. In most cases these women are already taken by a light skinned guy. So there’s high competition.
In the high end Antea mall 80% are native or mestiza with the bulk of that number being mestiza. The remaining 20% are light skinned. So the mall is definitely an improvement over the city streets, but it’s busy only three days of the week. The rest of the time it’s a ghost town. At peak times in the mall I would say 1 out of 100 women are attractive.
Since nothing is working, tomorrow I’ll do non-dating activities. I may visit the mall in the evening to see if it has any more people after working hours.
Day 5
I didn’t do any dating activities today. I just explored rural areas outside the city.
Day 6
I walked around the streets all day. I know at this point it’s unlikely that I’ll find a women who meets my perfect criteria, but it is still a nice place to walk around. I can’t imagine walking around any city in the USA aimlessly for the sake of it. Here in Queretaro there’s an endless amount of picturesque walk ways around every corner. In every park you see families and young couples late into the evening. Romantic scenes like those you see in movies where lovers are kissing in a park at night are a normal and casual occurrence here. Of course people should restrain themselves more in public but I say this just to show that the whole place exudes warmth. Talking to shop keepers is an enjoyable exchange instead of a painful. Every Mexican woman regardless of how she looks still beats American women on personality. The difficulty is in trying to find someone with the whole package. I just got back from sitting in a plaza for a few hours and listening to live music. Where does it happen in America that people spontaneously play music and socialize in parks till 10pm at night on a week day?
Day 7
I walked along a river today that borders the north side of the city. At one point I saw something I would never see in America. There was a stop light and whenever it turned red this native looking girl in tight fitting clothing would walk into the street and do a sexy hulu hoop dance to sell hula hoops. While I don’t approve of this since it’s immodest, this does show how much better guys have it in Mexico.
After I was done with the river I went back to Starbucks for a third time. This time there were some white Mexican girls but they were heavily guarded by pretentious white Mexican guys.
I then went to go sit in a plaza for a few hours. It was a nice experience and even though I was alone I didn’t feel that lonely. I noticed a lot of people sit by themselves in the parks just to pass time. There’s always an endless amount of activity surrounding you. Several beggars will come up to you. People try to sell things. There are impromptu bands that play music. There are clowns and other entertainers hustling around. There’s no shame in sitting alone like there is in America.
The weather here really sucks. This is supposed to least wet month of the year but it has been cold and rainy the whole time. Everyone has been saying this is extremely odd for this time of the year. In other news I’ve caught some virus that’s made my throat really sore so I retired early for the night. After I got to my hotel it started raining heavily. My last full day is tomorrow. I’ll probably just rest.
Day 8
It’s been raining heavily since I woke up and I hear thunder. I also feel very sick. So today I just rested in my hotel room and reflected on my time here. I leave tomorrow.
Day 9
Today I leave Queretaro. I woke up early and had my last breakfast in the hotel. While I was waiting for a taxi I talked with the girl at the front desk. She’s the girl I’ve talked to most here and I enjoy talking to her. She has a nice personality but she is not my type. If I was physically attracted to her I would of asked her on a date. She seems to enjoy talking to me so I think she would of been receptive. Once I arrived at the airport for my flight home I found that going through the checkout was a breeze and almost pleasant. The security people in the airport are not assholes who dropped out of the military and can’t do anything better like in America.
Summary
Queretaro has some of the nicest plazas you will see in Mexico. It’s also one of the cleanest cities you’ll find in Mexico. There are people who sweep the streets 24/7. Every 20 feet is a trash can for disposing of anything. Many of the locals take pride in having such a clean city. The architecture is old as you would expect. Unfortunately the food doesn’t match the quality of the architecture. There aren’t really any special cuisines for this region. You only have the Mexican basics that you can get anywhere else. Of course the food is still better and more available than the US but I felt it was bland by Mexican standards.
As an American here I didn’t get too many second looks except from the native girls in a poorer part of town, who were professional beggars sizing everyone up. I get the impression that about half the population think I’m just a white Mexican while the other half may notice something off but can't put their finger on it. I say this because waiters and shop keepers only speak Spanish to me and then are surprised when I try using broken Spanish. Another possibility is that they think I’m a European tourist, and unlike most Americans, Europeans actually try learning Spanish. So you may not get much status here. In my case if I want to show that I’m from elsewhere I feel I need to talk in public to grab people’s attention.
I would conclude by saying Queretaro would be a great city for finding a traditional small town girl. The pace of life is slower here and to me it’s more enjoyable and natural to meet someone in a plaza than in a club. I don’t sense any sort of American stigma like I feel in Tijuana with being associated with sex tourists. For me the mestiza or native look of central Mexico isn’t my first choice though so I would like to continue my search elsewhere.
I arrived in Queretaro at 1am on a Saturday night. The town is dead at this hour, most restaurants are closed. Only a few clubs are open. The nightlife is a lot less than Tijuana. I can read this two different ways. The first is that all the good girls stay home at night. The second is that there’s no night life good or bad. I’m not planning to find a wife at 1am in the morning but a little more activity would of been reassuring. I’ll see what the daylight holds for this city.
Day 2
I woke up today and found the streets packed, so there’s no shortage of people to meet on sidewalks. I spent the first part of the day sitting in parks and watching women walk by. There are plenty of women that look nice, especially to someone who’s starving for companionship. But I felt I would not be doing myself justice by picking the first woman who smiles at me. I feel that I can always start with a higher standard and then lower it. Most of the women here are mayan or mestiza looking. My first choice would be a light skinned looking wife with European features. Most light skinned women that I do see are very average or fat. A good looking light skinned Mexicana is rare.
After observing the park for a while the conclusion came to me that mayans go to parks and plazas because this is where free entertainment is. To avoid this group I went to a very upscale mall where you need to pay to get in. The mall is called Antea Lifestyle Center. Antea was built in 2014 and it’s the second largest mall in Mexico. It has many upscale brands such as Armani, Victorias Secret, Mac, etc. The mall has more middle class, whiter, prettier looking, better dressed women. I’m guessing these women don’t like rubbing shoulders with the poor and that’s why they come here. So it’s unlikely you’ll ever see the same women in the mall as in the parks. It’s unfortunate that after carefully picking a city in Mexico with beautiful 400 year old plazas and parks I will need to avoid these beautiful spaces in favor of a sterile commercial mall built in 2014.
Once I got to the Antea mall I did my first female approach in my life. I’m 28 years old and I have never approached a woman so this was a new experience. She was extremely attractive. I googled her name later and found out she was in some contest called Mexico Miss Universe. At the end of our short conversation she reluctantly gave me her facebook and phone number.
When I called her later it turned out to be a fake number. I also sent a message on facebook but got no response. I learned from this exchange that I’m not good at approaching or reading women. Some men have lots of experience with this, but I don’t. My body physically reacts to approaching women by causing my hands to shake uncontrollably. I lost a lot of confidence with her rebuffing me. She also pissed me off. I wanted to go to a bull fight and visualize her as a bull being slaughtered.
I’m not sure what my other options are at this point besides directly approaching women. I can meet someone through a friend or use a dating website. My self imposed problem is that I want an above average looking woman. Above average looking women don’t use dating websites. I also don’t have any local friends.
Since there are no other options besides directly approaching women I will do the same thing I did today. I will sit in the mall and when I see an above average light skinned Mexican woman I will approach her. I will approach only the top 1% of women. There is no point in going through the traveling cost, learning a language and the pain of approaching and hurting my confidence for a small prize.
I have no interest in the act of approaching itself as a skill that has intrinsic value. This is something I want to do once for a specific purpose of finding a wife and then never do again. When I approach women I will not use any techniques, or scripts or put a lot of thought into it. I will open my mouth, words will come out, I will use direct questions, women will respond. I will not fight their response. They accept me or they don’t and that is it. I will quickly move on after each rejection and hopefully there won’t be too many. I will aim to approach 3 women a day for the remainder of my trip. I will adjust the quota as needed.
Day 3
Today is Monday. Weekdays suck in Queretaro. I went back to the Antea mall today with the idea of approaching women all day. But there were no people there. I saw over 1000 people on Sunday but less than 50 today. A security guard said this is how it is everyday except Friday, Saturday and Sunday.
When I didn’t see any customers I decided to look for pretty sales girls and act like I was buying something. Strangely almost every sales person was a man. Even the Victoria’s Secret store was run by a man. So I gave up and left the mall.
I went back to the hotel and brainstormed places to meet women. I decided to try Starbucks because for whatever reason this seems to be a status symbol in the third world. I went to two different Starbucks. The first had no women the second had more. But none of them were attractive enough to approach.
Later I went looking for a restaurant. Everything closes around 10pm here. This is a very sleepy town. I eventually find a restaurant. The waiter starts chatting with me and tells me where he’s from. He’s a mayan looking waiter from somewhere down south. He said he came to Queretaro for jobs because it’s a rich state and that’s also what a lot of other Mayan people do. So the corollary here is don’t choose a growing city that needs cheap labor, because most of the population will be ugly poor people.
Tomorrow I will try two new places. I need to exchange dollars for pesos. So I will try finding a bank with pretty female tellers to flash a lot of money in front of. Then I may go to a cinema. I don’t want to watch movies but most cinemas here cost $5 usd per ticket. Since it costs a lot maybe only middle class white girls will be there.
Day 4
I spent the first part of the day going to every bank in the city to find pretty tellers. This took up the bulk of my day and I didn’t find any. Then I went back to Starbucks. Again I didn’t see anyone. Then I strolled through the UAM university to look at the female students but didn’t see anyone. I didn’t get around to going to a cinema, but I don’t think it’s a good hunting ground anyways. I’m out of options at this point.
I ate dinner at another restaurant and another waiter enlightened me about the demographics of Queretaro. He said that 80% of the population is from other states. This is apparently a recent development due to economic growth and safety. So this is another confirmation that Queretaro was once whiter but has only recently become more native.
If I was to reevaluate the genetic break down I would say 95% of the women in the streets are native or mestiza. Only 5% look very light skinned. The 5% that do look light skinned are fairly average looking. Only 1 out of 500 women in the streets are attractive light skinned women. In most cases these women are already taken by a light skinned guy. So there’s high competition.
In the high end Antea mall 80% are native or mestiza with the bulk of that number being mestiza. The remaining 20% are light skinned. So the mall is definitely an improvement over the city streets, but it’s busy only three days of the week. The rest of the time it’s a ghost town. At peak times in the mall I would say 1 out of 100 women are attractive.
Since nothing is working, tomorrow I’ll do non-dating activities. I may visit the mall in the evening to see if it has any more people after working hours.
Day 5
I didn’t do any dating activities today. I just explored rural areas outside the city.
Day 6
I walked around the streets all day. I know at this point it’s unlikely that I’ll find a women who meets my perfect criteria, but it is still a nice place to walk around. I can’t imagine walking around any city in the USA aimlessly for the sake of it. Here in Queretaro there’s an endless amount of picturesque walk ways around every corner. In every park you see families and young couples late into the evening. Romantic scenes like those you see in movies where lovers are kissing in a park at night are a normal and casual occurrence here. Of course people should restrain themselves more in public but I say this just to show that the whole place exudes warmth. Talking to shop keepers is an enjoyable exchange instead of a painful. Every Mexican woman regardless of how she looks still beats American women on personality. The difficulty is in trying to find someone with the whole package. I just got back from sitting in a plaza for a few hours and listening to live music. Where does it happen in America that people spontaneously play music and socialize in parks till 10pm at night on a week day?
Day 7
I walked along a river today that borders the north side of the city. At one point I saw something I would never see in America. There was a stop light and whenever it turned red this native looking girl in tight fitting clothing would walk into the street and do a sexy hulu hoop dance to sell hula hoops. While I don’t approve of this since it’s immodest, this does show how much better guys have it in Mexico.
After I was done with the river I went back to Starbucks for a third time. This time there were some white Mexican girls but they were heavily guarded by pretentious white Mexican guys.
I then went to go sit in a plaza for a few hours. It was a nice experience and even though I was alone I didn’t feel that lonely. I noticed a lot of people sit by themselves in the parks just to pass time. There’s always an endless amount of activity surrounding you. Several beggars will come up to you. People try to sell things. There are impromptu bands that play music. There are clowns and other entertainers hustling around. There’s no shame in sitting alone like there is in America.
The weather here really sucks. This is supposed to least wet month of the year but it has been cold and rainy the whole time. Everyone has been saying this is extremely odd for this time of the year. In other news I’ve caught some virus that’s made my throat really sore so I retired early for the night. After I got to my hotel it started raining heavily. My last full day is tomorrow. I’ll probably just rest.
Day 8
It’s been raining heavily since I woke up and I hear thunder. I also feel very sick. So today I just rested in my hotel room and reflected on my time here. I leave tomorrow.
Day 9
Today I leave Queretaro. I woke up early and had my last breakfast in the hotel. While I was waiting for a taxi I talked with the girl at the front desk. She’s the girl I’ve talked to most here and I enjoy talking to her. She has a nice personality but she is not my type. If I was physically attracted to her I would of asked her on a date. She seems to enjoy talking to me so I think she would of been receptive. Once I arrived at the airport for my flight home I found that going through the checkout was a breeze and almost pleasant. The security people in the airport are not assholes who dropped out of the military and can’t do anything better like in America.
Summary
Queretaro has some of the nicest plazas you will see in Mexico. It’s also one of the cleanest cities you’ll find in Mexico. There are people who sweep the streets 24/7. Every 20 feet is a trash can for disposing of anything. Many of the locals take pride in having such a clean city. The architecture is old as you would expect. Unfortunately the food doesn’t match the quality of the architecture. There aren’t really any special cuisines for this region. You only have the Mexican basics that you can get anywhere else. Of course the food is still better and more available than the US but I felt it was bland by Mexican standards.
As an American here I didn’t get too many second looks except from the native girls in a poorer part of town, who were professional beggars sizing everyone up. I get the impression that about half the population think I’m just a white Mexican while the other half may notice something off but can't put their finger on it. I say this because waiters and shop keepers only speak Spanish to me and then are surprised when I try using broken Spanish. Another possibility is that they think I’m a European tourist, and unlike most Americans, Europeans actually try learning Spanish. So you may not get much status here. In my case if I want to show that I’m from elsewhere I feel I need to talk in public to grab people’s attention.
I would conclude by saying Queretaro would be a great city for finding a traditional small town girl. The pace of life is slower here and to me it’s more enjoyable and natural to meet someone in a plaza than in a club. I don’t sense any sort of American stigma like I feel in Tijuana with being associated with sex tourists. For me the mestiza or native look of central Mexico isn’t my first choice though so I would like to continue my search elsewhere.