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Re: The grass is always greener on the other side...

Postby celery2010 » Fri Feb 12, 2016 2:01 am

First of all, Prague is the most expensive, touristy and wealthiest part of EE. The Czech Republic now has a higher GDP per capita than Spain.

Secondly, people everywhere will complain. Even guys in Asia will likely complain.

But two points:

The complaining is relative. Even in the U.S. people complain about not having enough money, even though we are wealthy compared to the average Thai or Bulgarian.

Secondly, if a Westerner goes to Russia, he will be on a different playing field that the local guy who drinks all the time and is barely employed.

Finally, i hardly see minnesota as a mecca for women. I have spent time there and although it is not bad, it is also not amazing.

And most Minnesotans are German, not Scandinavian. Scandinavians only make a small percentage of the population, even in MN.
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Re: The grass is always greener on the other side...

Postby droid » Fri Feb 12, 2016 4:58 am

celery2010 wrote:The complaining is relative.


^^This. I was about to write the same thing.
Also the cancer may be spreading but it doesn't mean it's the same everywhere. Probably localized cesspools.

celery2010 wrote:Secondly, if a Westerner goes to Russia, he will be on a different playing field that the local guy who drinks all the time and is barely employed.


^^and this
But again it probably depends on actual locales. As far as i understand there are high rollers in Russia that would put even Travelsouth to shame, like a bum in comparison lol

celery2010 wrote:Finally, i hardly see minnesota as a mecca for women. I have spent time there and although it is not bad, it is also not amazing.
And most Minnesotans are German, not Scandinavian. Scandinavians only make a small percentage of the population, even in MN.


In all fairness there actually are really nice, slim and sweet American girls without tatoos, especially in the countryside, at least from what I've seen, but unfortunately they are too few, like needles in a haystack. I know I'm pointing at the obvious exceptions, but still worth mentioning.

I think it is North Dakota that has the large number of Norwegians if i'm not mistaken.
1)Too much of one thing defeats the purpose.
2)Everybody is full of it. What's your hypocrisy?
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Re: The grass is always greener on the other side...

Postby gsjackson » Fri Feb 12, 2016 5:40 am

North Dakota and Minnesota smoke all other states in percentage of Scandinavians with 36 and 32 percent:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavian_Americans
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Re: The grass is always greener on the other side...

Postby gsjackson » Fri Feb 12, 2016 5:51 am

But Germans are, in fact, the largest immigrant group in Minnesota, according to this book:

http://www.mnhs.org/mnhspress/books/germans-minnesota

If you want to read about the tragic cultural decline of this country during the 20th century, get a book called The Great Good Place, by Ray Oldenburg, a German-American from Minnesota. He writes about the great beer halls Germans built in places where they became numerous, such as Milwaukee. These incredible structures constituted an entire social life in themselves, sometimes including bowling alleys, a couple of orchestras, and all manner of gathering spaces.

What happened to the beer halls in the U.S.? WWI jingoism. Once the Creel Committee got rolling with the anti-German propaganda, Germans in the U.S. were forced to lie low, and shut down all these great gathering places. God bless America.
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Re: The grass is always greener on the other side...

Postby GoingAwol » Fri Feb 19, 2016 8:39 am

OP,
You do have a point. It's true that you will hear men from every country complaining about the local women, but as others have already said the complaints are relative. When a Russian woman asked me why I wanted to go to Russia to find a woman I was very honest and told her that American women suck. She responded "LOL men here say the exact same things about women being picky and stuck-up". I asked her to elaborate on that and she told me that Russian women generally expect men to be college educated, have a decent job, and own a car and an apartment. Those are Russian womens standards and if you have those things you can get women! Basically the kind of guys that cant get women in Russia are drunk bums. Think about all the guys in the U.S that are college educated and have a decent job, but still can't find a woman! If you ask me Russia is clearly better than America when it comes to finding decent women. Hell any place is.
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Re: The grass is always greener on the other side...

Postby GoingAwol » Fri Feb 19, 2016 8:48 am

Also,
Let's delve further into the part about complaining being subjective. The OP has a point when he says that you will find men from every area of the globe on manosphere sites. Having said that...... MGTOW,PUA etc. are mostly an Anglosphere phenomenon. If you were to poll all of the men on all of these sites to find out where they are from you would find that 90% of them are from the Anglosphere countries (USA,Canada,UK, and Australia). There is clearly a bigger issue with women in the Anglosphere than there is anywhere else in the world.
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Re: The grass is always greener on the other side...

Postby travelsouth » Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:51 pm

Despite some of the horror stories I would also agree that the FSU is better for the American than dating at home. That being said I'm not a fan of the cold culture, and I don't think it translates all that well. I think guys find a beautiful women and their little head just takes over. For some I've heard examples of how Asian culture is a good fit for them. Overall, latin culture is the best fit for American men.
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Re: The grass is always greener on the other side...

Postby newbgold » Sun Apr 17, 2016 4:23 pm

Here is what I saw in a clothing store in Prague:
http://i.imgur.com/qkERew8.jpg

Also, the book 50 Shades of Grey is very popular in Czech Republic. This book and its sequels are seen in the window of almost every bookstore in Prague:
http://i.imgur.com/9FXt9wp.jpg

The most popular male hairstyle in Prague is the undercut. Men are getting haircuts like the one in the picture below to look more fierce, intimidating, and hypermasculine.
http://www.menshairstylestoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Undercut-Haircut14-Pompadour-Undercut.jpg
Also, about 50% of Czech young men have tattoos, especially a neck tattoo. Most Czech men are obsessed with pumping iron to get those muscles and abs. This is all done to look more attractive to the modern women.

Pictures can often speak a 1000 words.
Guys, if you are not a wealthy, corporate, tattooed, tall, handsome, muscular hunk, cross Czech Republic off your list.

I will get around to translating articles from a Russian manosphere website masculist.ru in several days. You will see the tragic reality how abysmal Eastern European dating scene has become in the past few years, mimicking the gender relations in US. This is a tragedy for any non-hunk who likes white women.
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Re: The grass is always greener on the other side...

Postby Eric » Sun Apr 17, 2016 5:03 pm

GoingAwol wrote:OP,
You do have a point. It's true that you will hear men from every country complaining about the local women, but as others have already said the complaints are relative. When a Russian woman asked me why I wanted to go to Russia to find a woman I was very honest and told her that American women suck. She responded "LOL men here say the exact same things about women being picky and stuck-up". I asked her to elaborate on that and she told me that Russian women generally expect men to be college educated, have a decent job, and own a car and an apartment. Those are Russian womens standards and if you have those things you can get women! Basically the kind of guys that cant get women in Russia are drunk bums. Think about all the guys in the U.S that are college educated and have a decent job, but still can't find a woman! If you ask me Russia is clearly better than America when it comes to finding decent women. Hell any place is.



Honestly, I feel like half of this is men's own insecurity, when it comes to the competitive nature of our country - and everyone in it. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying.
Lack of confidence is a HUGE problem in American men, because we are "supposed to achieve so much", and the mark keeps moving. This has got nothing to do with the women, it's got to do with us. Most women would settle for a decent guy who looks handsome, has his stuff together, etc. Even the women are stressed out, now for God's sakes. ..You can see that same masculine, furrowed stress-look on their faces. I swear I always feel "I don't deserve... xyz" which is a terrible feeling, it is like a prison sentence. How good looking you are or how much you achieve, never giving yourself the go ahead - because of some floating meter, which always bobs right above your head, somehow. There's no way out of it, unless you destruct it that mindset and paradigm. That's at least, how I felt. It truly is the worst kind of sad prison. I've lived in it my whole life.

Women know the reality and I think most of them wish guys were easier on themselves. The men are so goddamn competitive here. When I moved here I hated the American men, I absolutely hated guy culture and saw it as bullshit and horrible crippling bs slavery right from the start. It's near impossible to develop camraderie or friendships because of it.
This country has to be the worst for competition and dissociation between men. I've noticed that. It was REALLY hard for me coming from a country Turkey, which is the complete opposite.
The solution is moving, or coming back down and getting real to yourself.

Everyone feels like a loser in the US. Even the women now feel like losers and are bipolar schizophrenic with themselves about who they are. This is subjective and it will never end, until we change it in our culture (Which will never change because they are put there to ensure a good work/slave force - and manipulative controllable people). My advice is still to Get out.
I think the OP's post has some merit. It's good to balance the issue and to hear a good rational explanation of the other side.


By the way, I'd like to say that this website is slowly putting the common sense and guidance back in me - which was lost; so long ago.
I'd never think I'd find it. It's like its stripping off the marxist corrosion which has gathered on my soul being here, like someone took a Brill-O pad to it.

This country raises stressed out kids by stressed out parents, and produces burned-out Socialists...who give up because of the unrealistic expectations and exhaustion. And who can blame them? ... really, if they aren't intelligentsia like many of us here on this site. This culture will never accept you, accept yourself.
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Re: The grass is always greener on the other side...

Postby Slick » Fri Aug 19, 2016 7:10 am

newbgold wrote:Minnesota is indeed one of the best places for heterosexual young men.


How approachable are the girls in Minnesota?

The only problem I have with the entire Midwest is that most people marry young and have a few kids before their mid twenties.
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