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Re: Falcon's new Thai family

Postby retiredfrank » Mon Jul 25, 2016 7:17 am

droid wrote:So many baseless conjectures.I don't know what part you don't understand, if more young men act like this then those women will actually start having the leverage. I've tried to explain already, old farts like you will then really be out. Forget about the younger women you spoke on your previous post, you will have to hit on the ones your age that are falling apart. Try logic for once.

Talk about baseless conjectures. Better not piss in the ocean either, otherwise the whole thing might turn yellow and then what?

If all the young men went for older women, the younger women would then go for older men. If all the men in the USA go to Thailand or Philippines and chase young hotties, then the young hotties in Thailand and Philippines will become more arrogant than even young American women are now. You're the one who needs to try logic, as in following a train of thought to its logical conclusion in order to reveal invalid assumptions.
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Re: Falcon's new Thai family

Postby droid » Mon Jul 25, 2016 8:38 am

retiredfrank wrote:
droid wrote:So many baseless conjectures.I don't know what part you don't understand, if more young men act like this then those women will actually start having the leverage. I've tried to explain already, old farts like you will then really be out. Forget about the younger women you spoke on your previous post, you will have to hit on the ones your age that are falling apart. Try logic for once.

Talk about baseless conjectures. Better not piss in the ocean either, otherwise the whole thing might turn yellow and then what?

If all the young men went for older women, the younger women would then go for older men.


You're helpless really

retiredfrank wrote: If all the men in the USA go to Thailand or Philippines and chase young hotties, then the young hotties in Thailand and Philippines will become more arrogant than even young American women are now. You're the one who needs to try logic, as in following a train of thought to its logical conclusion in order to reveal invalid assumptions.


That's Half true, foreigners chasing hags also mean the younger ones realize they can get away with reckless behavior and that there is no wall, as exposed by the other poster above.
I'm trying to present a case for old farts like you to have a chance to find more humble 40yos. You still can't get it, well enjoy, come back and report when they tell you to piss off when you approach.
1)Too much of one thing defeats the purpose.
2)Everybody is full of it. What's your hypocrisy?
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Re: Falcon's new Thai family

Postby retiredfrank » Mon Jul 25, 2016 8:52 am

I'm not going to SE Asia, but if I were, the guys who are really doing God's work, in the sense of making things easy for me, are guys like Will N Dowd. Knock up the young hotties, hopefully with daughters so as to perpetuate the cycle, then they'll be ready for me once they've recovered from pregnancy and ready for sex again and realize they are in dire need of a sugar daddy.

Also, you poor fool, you're in Thailand looking for a young one yourself, aren't you? You should be delighted Falcon is not competing directly with you.
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Re: Falcon's new Thai family

Postby droid » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:21 am

I'm not in Thailand and this is not necessarily about me. And I'm not looking, i already have chicks, but not enough energy or time, i've explained this.
You are the one that would have to compete with guys like Falcon for the knocked up ones, don't worry about me. But still, he is (as would you) indirectly ruining things for all, as i explained.
As perverse as your 'logic' is though, kudos for the honesty.
1)Too much of one thing defeats the purpose.
2)Everybody is full of it. What's your hypocrisy?
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Re: Falcon's new Thai family

Postby Falcon » Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:30 pm

Please read Ladislav's Philippines foster child story.
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The Philippines is full of single, young childless women who are easily attainable, but Lad chose to do something that was meaningful for him as well as others. It's not because he is a beta being duped by single mothers. He chose to do this since he had a heart.

This is exactly what I am doing in Thailand. As Ladislav said, "Those who go [abroad] to look for love, may sometimes find different love and give love in the most unexpected ways."

And this is the kind of guy I am:
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Re: Falcon's new Thai family

Postby chanta76 » Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:59 pm

Falcon,

I think you want to be a family man . Many other posters here are mongers. It's like oil and water it doesn't mix. A monger will not understand why a man wants to be a family man. A family man will not truly find satisfaction in a monger life style. If your happy good on you but just be careful and don't get burnt.
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Re: Falcon's new Thai family

Postby Falcon » Mon Jul 25, 2016 5:05 pm

Thanks chanta. I am now trying to balance my very busy schedule juggling school, work, and family. I do believe in life balance.

How have you been doing with your new Korean wife by the way?
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Re: Falcon's new Thai family

Postby MarcosZeitola » Mon Jul 25, 2016 8:34 pm

First of all, I am happy for you: you seem genuinely in love with this woman, and you also seem to get along well with her family. It's a good thing for you that her ex-husband is out of the picture, because if he wasn't or if he ever came back, that could spell trouble.

What I would worry about, if I was in this particular situation, would be her age and fertility; she has three children already, you have none. At the age of 40, fertility issues and birth complications are a very real risk. You and me are the same age; do you wish to ever have a biological child of your own? If so, what is your lady's position on this, and if not: does it not feel... well, a bit sad?

I am not judging you here, brother, I am just speaking from the heart. Fatherhood is an amazing experience, and many men have been amazing fathers to adoptive children and step- or fosterkids, but... it's not the same, at the end of the day, as a child who is biologically yours. It's a very primal thing, I suppose. Not all men have it, not even all women have it, but most do. You are 25 now, still young. It may not weigh heavily on your decisions today, but one day in the future it might. Think of that day.

At the end of the day, true love is blind, it is not logical, it is not something we can explain. It's just... there. You found it, I hope it stays with you and that you are able to hold on to it and cherish it. But do not forget yourself in this. Life is long, and some of the choices we make, for better or worse, we carry with us as long as we live. The age difference is not a bad thing in itself, there are many couples with (large) age differences who work very well together. The the older man, younger woman couple is the more common one, for a very simple biological reason: the older man and his younger woman can still have children of their own, together. In most cases, the younger man and the older woman cannot. For some young men, this is fine; they love their woman, they stick with her no matter what.

Most of the times, however, the younger man will leave his woman after some time for a younger woman. This drive to reproduce seems to be biologically hard-wired into the male brain. It is why so many older, well-to-do men leave their woman for "trophy wives" at some point... your relationship, from an emotional point of view, is more "equal". At the same time, it is the sort of relationship that is more beneficial to the woman then it is to the man, in a number of aspects. You give the best years of your life to a woman who already gave her best years to another man. For me, this would be a troubling thought. Now, mind you: I am a different person, with different drives and motivations. But it's something I always think about, when I see an older woman, younger man relationship.

No judgement, brother, just my two cents. If this woman, and this new family, truly brings you joy, then don't let anyone change your mind and enjoy your new life.
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Re: Falcon's new Thai family

Postby chanta76 » Mon Jul 25, 2016 8:51 pm

Marcos,

I kind of agree and disagree. There are loads of biological fathers that are horrible fathers.In matter of fact I seen so many bad parents that they shouldn't be parents at all. I think being a parent is not for ever one. Being a parent is more about being a mentor or a guidance for the child and letting go of the child once the child reaches adulthood. I respect people who choose to adopt because they want the joy of raising life. It's not easy being a parent.

My father is Korean. His very old fashion. I am now married. My dad once order me that I have to give him grand kids because that's the way it suppose to be. I resented my dad for saying that to me but that's Korean family it's controlling in a way. As if a biological baby is so important. I mean we don't live as royalties as if the blood line is so important. It's obnoxious really . Plus as a father my dad sucked big time.

I think if Falcon does want a child that is of his blood there are costly IVF but I think Falcon can figure out what's best for him.

Falcon,

How is my marriage life? I have happy days and I have tough days. Marriage is not easy ..perhaps its more me than my wife. At the same time I live in USA still ..allot of it is because of work and family reasons. My wife wants kids and I'm getting pressure about it from my other family members. I'm not against having kids but I'm a realist.

Having a kid means more work good and bad. It does change the nature of my marriage since it's more about the baby . Cost will go up. At the same time I have personally issues . The other factor is that I guess I experience so much negativity in life and I see so much negativity in the world I ask myself. Do I honestly want to bring in life in this world?

My wife told me that's up to the future child to decide how to make it. All I can do is guide it as best. I don't know. Maybe the next stage in my life is to try to be father.
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Re: Falcon's new Thai family

Postby cdnFA » Tue Jul 26, 2016 4:38 am

All you people supporting him would be ripping him apart and calling him a chump and a sucker if you replaced the word Thai with American and kept all the other details the same.

That double standard is all over the place here. AW are dirty sluts, Filipina women are awesome because they are so easy to bang.
AW are a bunch of dirty gold diggers, but a woman who throws herself after a guy 3 times her age and 4 times her weight is a good woman while she drains her husband dry as an ATM machine for her free loading ungrateful relations.
Disgusting how American woman chase after the Chad Thundercock but when we become the Chads because of first world wealth, awesome sauce.


HA logic, gotta love it.
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Re: Falcon's new Thai family

Postby Signet » Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:27 am

Didn’t SParc get with an American woman, and the only people who really had a problem with that were the ones who chronically resent other people’s happiness (who are most definitely NOT out in support here)?

Not even saying there isn't room here for honest criticism (although 'she and her spawn should die' is not honest criticism), but there's not much of an equivalency here. Also...it's usually entirely different people making most of those points.
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Re: Falcon's new Thai family

Postby retiredfrank » Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:38 am

cdnFA wrote:Disgusting how American woman chase after the Chad Thundercock but when we become the Chads because of first world wealth, awesome sauce.

Hello? I certainly never condemned Chad Thundercocks in the USA/Canada for taking advantage of their situation, nor women for going for the best deal they can get. The whole point of HA for me is precisely to become Chad Thundercock, though I prefer to say "go from middle class status to rich status", which is nice in many ways other than women. And actually to become more than Chad Thunderock could ever be in the USA. Few false rape or sexual harassment problems in places like Thailand/Ukraine, whereas even rich and powerful Chad Thundercocks get taken down hard in the USA/Canada.

You are fond of pointing out that most men don't get falsely accused, don't get divorce raped, etc. But the threat is always hanging over their heads, and such an environment is emasulating. Spend time around married men in the USA/Canada and you'll see that they are all beaten and frightened men deep inside. Maybe your bitterness is because you are feeling the effects of this emaculating environment.

Getting back to the OP, the legal environment would be worse for him in the USA/Canada, even if everything else remained the same. Also, he would not have the leverage over her that he has now, even if his income status in USA/Canada were the same as in Thailand, because good-looking single mothers in their 40s have much higher SMV in USA/Canada than in Thailand.

Why do you hang out on HA if you have no interest in going abroad?
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Re: Falcon's new Thai family

Postby yick » Tue Jul 26, 2016 9:11 am

Are you happy? If you are - you are a success, well done my man! :D

You have learned Thai, you are a post-grad student at a local university, anyone who thinks he has chosen his mate because he couldn't get a bit of fluff around
the campus is stretching denial a bit here - he could a lot easier than many of us who can't speak Thai.

Happier Abroad (in my opinion of course) shouldn't be about women because women can't bring you happiness anywhere - they can bring you a shitload of f***ing problems you don't need - ask anyone who survived being a member of the 'Pattaya Flying Club'.

You are abroad, you are happy - good man and congratulations, I wish you many more years of happiness.
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Re: Falcon's new Thai family

Postby Falcon » Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:48 am

MarcosZeitola wrote:What I would worry about, if I was in this particular situation, would be her age and fertility; she has three children already, you have none. At the age of 40, fertility issues and birth complications are a very real risk. You and me are the same age; do you wish to ever have a biological child of your own? If so, what is your lady's position on this, and if not: does it not feel... well, a bit sad?

I am not judging you here, brother, I am just speaking from the heart. Fatherhood is an amazing experience, and many men have been amazing fathers to adoptive children and step- or fosterkids, but... it's not the same, at the end of the day, as a child who is biologically yours. It's a very primal thing, I suppose. Not all men have it, not even all women have it, but most do. You are 25 now, still young. It may not weigh heavily on your decisions today, but one day in the future it might. Think of that day.

At the end of the day, true love is blind, it is not logical, it is not something we can explain. It's just... there. You found it, I hope it stays with you and that you are able to hold on to it and cherish it. But do not forget yourself in this. Life is long, and some of the choices we make, for better or worse, we carry with us as long as we live. The age difference is not a bad thing in itself, there are many couples with (large) age differences who work very well together. The the older man, younger woman couple is the more common one, for a very simple biological reason: the older man and his younger woman can still have children of their own, together. In most cases, the younger man and the older woman cannot. For some young men, this is fine; they love their woman, they stick with her no matter what.

Most of the times, however, the younger man will leave his woman after some time for a younger woman. This drive to reproduce seems to be biologically hard-wired into the male brain. It is why so many older, well-to-do men leave their woman for "trophy wives" at some point... your relationship, from an emotional point of view, is more "equal". At the same time, it is the sort of relationship that is more beneficial to the woman then it is to the man, in a number of aspects. You give the best years of your life to a woman who already gave her best years to another man. For me, this would be a troubling thought. Now, mind you: I am a different person, with different drives and motivations. But it's something I always think about, when I see an older woman, younger man relationship.


Thanks for your great advice Marcos. I always enjoy reading your posts.

1. Yes, the ex is indeed completely out of the picture. He's never really been interested in the children, and our daughter doesn't him.

2. Yes, one issue is that I'll have to decide really quickly whether I want to have a biological child with her or not. She has personally told that she wants one with me too. She says that ultimately it's my decisions and won't pressure me to do anything, but I feel that she'd be really happy to have a child with me. We will have to go to a fertility specialist of course. She has 5 more years left.

3. I do completely understand the biological vs. foster child issue, and I personally have many of the same thoughts as you.

4. I do recognize that the drive to seek a younger, fertile woman is hard-wired into the male brain, but I really think that in my case, that was been strongly overwritten by many things that have happened in my life. In addition to be being able to connect with many younger women, I also keep ending up with women who are like mother figures or at least a big sister. It's not like I'm consciously looking for them. I just keep ending up with them.

I have never been with a woman my age or younger than me (except for one Mexican girl that I knew back when I was 18), and the thought of trading them for younger ones because of age has never crossed my mind, even when I'm somewhat older now at age 25.
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Re: Falcon's new Thai family

Postby MarcosZeitola » Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:03 am

Falcon wrote:Thanks for your great advice Marcos. I always enjoy reading your posts.


And I yours. I can tell from your old posts regarding Winston, Angelo and Dianne, that you are a decent human being. A rare breed in today's world, and especially on this forum and others like it.

Falcon wrote:1. Yes, the ex is indeed completely out of the picture. He's never really been interested in the children, and our daughter doesn't him.


He has a younger woman to distract him. At twenty years her senior, chances are she keeps him very busy. I doubt he will be back, unless things don't work out with his new woman and he gets lonely later in life... by then his youngest daughter would hardly know his face, so it's not much of a risk at this point for your position in the family. There are also, as you mentioned, no laws forcing him to stick around and support them.

Falcon wrote:2. Yes, one issue is that I'll have to decide really quickly whether I want to have a biological child with her or not. She has personally told that she wants one with me too. We will have to go to a fertility specialist of course. She has 5 more years left.


Don't think of the five year window, you don't have such a window. After forty, there is a lot of chances of complications or having a child with Down's Syndrome or other birth defects. You are a young and healthy man which may cancel some of the bad effects, but the risks are very, very real. My advice? Don't wait. If this is something you both want, you should get busy yesterday rather then tomorrow. Forty is a risk, 42 a bigger risk, 45 may be an impossibility; keep that in mind. It's a trap many Western women fall for - they endlessly postpone childbirth in favor of their careers until it is too late. Do not fall for that trap, because typically the only women who have kids after forty are Hollywood women, rich women. In the real world it is rare.

Falcon wrote:3. I do completely understand the biological vs. foster child issue, and I personally have many of the same thoughts as you.


You are a young man. I hope your new woman can give you everything you want. In ten years when you are only 35, she is already 50... by then she's likely already a grandmother, as her oldest daughter would then by 32 and her son 29. You'll be a step-grandfather in your thirties, and your child with her may be an aunt or uncle to kids their own age. I am not saying that is a bad thing, it is just an interesting set-up. :wink:

Falcon wrote:4. I do recognize that the drive to seek a younger, fertile woman is hard-wired into the male brain, but I really think that in my case, that was been strongly overwritten by many things that have happened in my life. In addition to be being able to connect with many younger women, I also keep ending up with women who are like mother figures or at least a big sister. It's not like I'm consciously looking for them. I just keep ending up with them.


The heart wants what the heart wants. Now you found a woman and fell in love with her, you already know you can give her everything she wants in life. Just make sure that she can also give you everything YOU want in life. That requires some deep thinking, and then some rapid action. Good luck on figuring all this out, and the best wishes for the both of you. You are now part of the exclusive club of true family men, an even rarer breed on this forum then the club of decent human beings.
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