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AVOID JAPAN

Postby GameOverYeah » July 24th, 2017, 9:33 pm

First let me start off by saying that the same old tired advice that has been circulating for years like "be white" and "go to Gas Panic" is simply outdated bullshit.

Roppongi is nothing but a bunch of aggressive African street touts now. That place sucks now and everyone who has actually been to Japan recently knows it. Too many people who have never actually been to Japan are passing around bullshit advice.

I went to Japan because it is a safe 1st World Country. The world appears to be more dangerous now so I avoided many places that Winston has traveled to in the past. I wanted to go to these places but I went with Japan instead.

The only thing that is going to save this trip are some easily accessible AND legal P4P options like Tokyo Hentai Club. I have not been there yet but that is the only shot I have left. I don't have the patience to chase after women online here. They have no interest in anything other than their cell phones. They are not loud or fat like American women but their cell phones are almost glued to the front of their faces. It is like a disease.

Japan is racist as well, I tried to go into a girls bar/snack bar and got told "no foreigners" I guess that is nothing new. I thought being a white guy would give me an edge, maybe in the past that was true but now most people could care less. Japanese women barely even care about other Japanese guys from what I hear. The fun is over in this country, I officially declare "GAME OVER" for visiting Japan.

The fun, cute and feminine Japanese Female personalities are gone. Nothing but a bunch of boring robots here. I should have listed to all of the posts I read online about Japan, I didn't want to believe it. I wanted to believe that the Glory Days are still possible in Japan. What a f***ing waste of time and money. Better to have this dream die quickly than to continue to waste my time.
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Re: AVOID JAPAN

Postby Contrarian Expatriate » July 25th, 2017, 2:26 am

I spent a month is Japan recently and I loved it, but not for the Japanese women who seem socially disconnected and in another world all the time. I loved the food, the quality services, the politeness of everyone, the utter decency in everything I encountered. It is a high-IQ society and it absolutely feels like it.

The Japanese women were overrated. My success was with a Singaporean beauty and the white girls who often feel ignored there.
If you like white women, Japan is the place to go because white women are shunned by all but a few Japanese men and those girls find it hard to make financial ends meet in Japan. That makes for success for a guy like me who met a Russian/Japanese model on my last week there.

Shibuya is far better than Roppongi in my opinion. My only two gripes about Japan are the long freakin trip to get there, and the ridiculously high expense for Uber and Taxis. The metro is a must for Tokyo.
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Re: AVOID JAPAN

Postby chanta76 » July 25th, 2017, 2:50 am

What happened to Japan? I heard like 10 or 20 years ago it was super easy if you were half way decent but I guess nowadays I don't know. I see this spreading to other develop Asian countries. I could only think that with Japan it might of been either over monger so western guys lost their appeal. Or Feminism gotten a strong hold in Japan and selfishness and superficiality took over.

Kind of sad really. Less countries to go to. I predict South Korea would be next in line. I mean South Korea is hard but I don't know how it is nowadays.

I think it still comes down to the fact you still have to have game, good looks and some local language skills to pick up girls.

At the same time for white guys or black guys its overstated to think that just by showing up girls will line up. Which leads to the question if Japanese girls don't go gaga anymore for western guys nor even Japanese guys. Are they like American women in the way that you have to WIN them over? I think maybe that's the direction in develop country.
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Re: AVOID JAPAN

Postby Taco » July 25th, 2017, 5:37 pm

Contrarian Expatriate wrote: Japanese women who seem socially disconnected and in another world all the time. The Japanese women were overrated.


Middle class women think their superior no matter where they come from...

“Japanese men aren’t very attentive and don’t show their feelings, but hosts treat you like a princess. I want to be pampered and I don’t care how much it costs.”

Japan’s flirty male escorts sell dreams
http://www.thestar.com.my/news/regional/2017/02/22/japans-flirty-male-escorts-sell-dreams-wealthy-women-splurge-on-sweettalking-hosts-in-return-for-sex/
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Re: AVOID JAPAN

Postby xiongmao » July 25th, 2017, 6:37 pm

Yeah Japan is a disappointing for ladies. My advice - go there and buy your sex robot.

China is much better. Actually my Chinese friend's friend married a Japanese guy. See even Japanese men are avoiding Japanese women.
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Re: AVOID JAPAN

Postby Carnio » July 25th, 2017, 9:03 pm

GameOverYeah wrote:First let me start off by saying that the same old tired advice that has been circulating for years like "be white" and "go to Gas Panic" is simply outdated bullshit.

Roppongi is nothing but a bunch of aggressive African street touts now. That place sucks now and everyone who has actually been to Japan recently knows it. Too many people who have never actually been to Japan are passing around bullshit advice.

I went to Japan because it is a safe 1st World Country. The world appears to be more dangerous now so I avoided many places that Winston has traveled to in the past. I wanted to go to these places but I went with Japan instead.

The only thing that is going to save this trip are some easily accessible AND legal P4P options like Tokyo Hentai Club. I have not been there yet but that is the only shot I have left. I don't have the patience to chase after women online here. They have no interest in anything other than their cell phones. They are not loud or fat like American women but their cell phones are almost glued to the front of their faces. It is like a disease.

Japan is racist as well, I tried to go into a girls bar/snack bar and got told "no foreigners" I guess that is nothing new. I thought being a white guy would give me an edge, maybe in the past that was true but now most people could care less. Japanese women barely even care about other Japanese guys from what I hear. The fun is over in this country, I officially declare "GAME OVER" for visiting Japan.

The fun, cute and feminine Japanese Female personalities are gone. Nothing but a bunch of boring robots here. I should have listed to all of the posts I read online about Japan, I didn't want to believe it. I wanted to believe that the Glory Days are still possible in Japan. What a f***ing waste of time and money. Better to have this dream die quickly than to continue to waste my time.


I'm sorry you feel that way about Japan.But I just wanted to ask, where exactly did you go in Japan and how long did you stay? Maybe you should not brush off Japan so quickly...

For starters, Roppongi, is a place where there is a high density of foreigners if I am not mistaken, correct? Perhaps the locals are use to seeing foreigners so the "Exotic" factor probably does not phase well with newly arrived whites and blacks.

secondly, If you wanted this type of attention, why not go to other prefectures where there are no foreigners? I'm pretty sure you would get a much positive result in such a case.

Also, My best friend (who is native Japanese) told me that western Japan is far more open and friendly than Eastern side of Japan. Perhaps you could give Japan another go? After all, Tokyo does not represent All of Japan just as NYC does not represent all of America..
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Re: AVOID JAPAN

Postby Yohan » July 26th, 2017, 6:46 am

xiongmao wrote:Actually my Chinese friend's friend married a Japanese guy. See even Japanese men are avoiding Japanese women.


There are many more Japanese men with foreign wife than Japanese women with foreign husband, it is now more than 2:1.

Japan is and was always an importer of foreign women, same as South Korea and Taiwan.

About nightlife, you can find all what you need as a Western foreign man, but not so easy anymore and expect a high bill in return. Also many Japanese sex-related businesses were switching over to membership/internet application (in Japanese only) etc. - this helps a lot to keep foreigners away who, after checking out the Japanese sex-scene, contact some NGOs or whatever 'international' human, women or children etc. rights group, complaining and claiming 'abuse' in Japan and try to 'rescue innocent girls'.

In general it has to be said, Western foreign men (and women too) are not longer welcome to join the Japanese sex-scene. It works better without them, Japanese night-business operators do not want to be disturbed by foreign do-gooders, missionaries etc...

Most sex-clubs etc. which accept foreign men are with foreign girls, mostly Taiwan-Chinese (Shinjuku), Thai (Okubo), Korean (Takadanobaba), Brazilian (Ikebukuro), suburbs around Tokyo (Filipina) - basically limited to the large Japanese cities.
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Re: AVOID JAPAN

Postby Yohan » July 26th, 2017, 1:20 pm

GameOverYeah wrote:Roppongi is nothing but a bunch of aggressive African street touts now. That place sucks now and everyone who has actually been to Japan recently knows it. Too many people who have never actually been to Japan are passing around bullshit advice.
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They are not loud or fat like American women but their cell phones are almost glued to the front of their faces. It is like a disease.
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Japan is racist as well, I tried to go into a girls bar/snack bar and got told "no foreigners" I guess that is nothing new. I thought being a white guy would give me an edge...


Nightlife in Roppongi is a joke, with many strange black people around from everywhere in this world (I met some from Aruba, Zambia etc.), avoid it at all costs.

Mobile phones/internet texting etc. - this is not only in Japan.

It is true that Japanese bars etc. which are into night-business with lady-services etc. do not want Western foreign men and women anymore as their customers, but I cannot blame them for that. Most foreigners are unwilling or unable to spend money just for girls/boys and fun. Japan is not a cheap place. There is also a significant number of foreigners who are out to write something negative about Japan like missionaries, feminists, social justice warriors, women rights activists, child protectors and so on. To avoid legal troubles many of such clubs etc. are now based on membership only.
This was not always like that, but international critic mostly from USA was forcing Japan to change laws, customs etc.
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Re: AVOID JAPAN

Postby chanta76 » July 27th, 2017, 4:23 am

yohan,

how big is the problem of the herbivore japanese men staying dateless or even sexless?
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Re: AVOID JAPAN

Postby GameOverYeah » July 27th, 2017, 7:22 pm

I want to thank everyone who has replied so far.

I finally got laid but nothing to brag about...It was a P4P street walker who took me to a massage place. I probably paid way too much. I was drunk, she was not Japanese and I guess only slightly attractive. I was drunk, she was aggressive with the "massagie now!" and grabbing my arm. I took the bait. Just thought I would share that....

I am not here to bash the Japanese. They are very smart, hardworking and honorable. You won't see hoodrats, vatos or rednecks here (had to throw that in to avoid racism). Things are very safe here. Japan has much to be proud of.

But I did not come here to marvel at their great manners. Let's be real here...."Charisma Man" does not really exist anymore (at least not in Tokyo). Maybe I am simply an idiot for believing that
a white guy (37, average shape and looks, sure I could stand to loose a little weight and I have a full head of hair) could just get off of a plane and be a hit with Japanese women. I don't think I am ugly or repulsive??? The dream is dead guys, maybe I am just another fool for believing it still exists. I know it existed at one point and debates rage on as to when it ended (late 1990s or mid 2000s).

I am basically writing this post to inform anyone like myself that turning into a sudden "charisma man" when you step off the plane by simply being white might not work anymore. I am also here
to inform you that much of the old advice about locations and tactics is now beyond outdated...it is simply dead wrong as of now.

Let me ramble on a bit more....

So I thought "The Hub" was suppose to be a great place to run into gaijin hunters. I got lost and ended up in Nakano. I went to The Hub near the train station there and it was nothing but a bunch of Japanese dudes in that place. I didn't see any other gaijin nor any female "gaijin hunters". Maybe just that one location is off or maybe it was an off night? So I decided the next day to give the backstreets near Nakano Broadway a try (this is a Friday night btw), again just a bunch of Japanese dudes in every damn bar! I saw some women in an Izakaya but they were in private boothes and with guys. What the hell is up? I had more fun in Saitama. Maybe I need to check out "The Hub" in Shibuya or Shinjuku?
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Re: AVOID JAPAN

Postby Adama » July 28th, 2017, 12:38 am

I wouldn't rush trying to meet someone. Sometimes it takes quite some time. It may take much longer than the typical two weeks of vacation time. Probably it would take up to six weeks to meet someone in a foreign country sometimes. Other times you might meet someone after three days. The only thing is, these women still need to be screened for compatibility and sanity.

Also, the exotic factor probably still exists, just it probably never existed in the form you thought it did. Like everything else, it only affects a few small percentage of women. Over millions of women, that is significant. The only thing is, it will take some time for these encounters to take place. I wouldn't expect women to respond as if you are the Beatles and just hit the USA on tour. It will be much more subtle than that.

Personally I think mongering and sex will only take a man away from his goal of finding a real woman. These diversions will distract you, or cause you to mentally give up because it's the easier option, instead of focusing on your goal. It's relieving yourself when you should stay focused on finding a woman. Taking the "easy rode" basically will just sap your attention away from where it should be: finding a woman of quality who is not a prostitute.

No need to rush into sex, because if it is with someone you don't want, then what's the point.
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Re: AVOID JAPAN

Postby chanta76 » July 28th, 2017, 3:05 am

gameoveryeah,

I think your too old. The game got higher in the wealthy Asian countries like Japan and South Korea . The girls there are not poor like the Philippines. If a Japanese girl really have a thing for white guys she can just buy a ticket and go visit any western country.

At the same time I think the welcoming mat has been pulled off. What happened was in the past there was word about the "Charisma man" experience and you got loads of perverts and weirdo going to Japan . Japanese girls used to go for western guy thinking they be treated better or more romantically but that didn't happen. Lots of western guys just wanted to monger. So I think that's part of the reason why the "charisma man ' stereotype died down.
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Re: AVOID JAPAN

Postby charismaman » August 2nd, 2017, 5:48 pm

It is bad for white men Asia-wide now.

The legends are true. I was in China in the late aughts and girls would come to my house to f**k and leave afterward. But all the perverts and weirdos kinda ruined the appeal of white guys in Asia.

To give you an idea, I'm a mid 30s white guy living in the Philippines, average looking, making six figures. And *I* have a hard time getting girls. Lately I've been getting dirty looks constantly from people on the street.

Asia = over.

From what I've heard, Latin America is over too, along with Eastern Europe.
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Re: AVOID JAPAN

Postby momopi » August 2nd, 2017, 8:30 pm

A different person visiting Japan may have entirely different experience. I have known people who moved there and thrived and also others who failed and moved back to US.

But here is what "game over" did RIGHT. He went and did not like what he saw and experienced, so he decided not to continue to waste his time there. Unlike the stereotype bitter expats who hate their life overseas but stuck there because they have no real job skills or financial means and turned internet troll. When told to leave they reply with they have nowhere no go.
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Re: AVOID JAPAN

Postby GameOverYeah » August 2nd, 2017, 11:01 pm

Okay, so first I will respond to "charismaman" hahahha. Why did you name yourself that? lol.....

At least you (charismaman) got to experience things during the "Glory Days". So life sucks now. Maybe you are just "old" like me and life is getting harder? I had one poster tell me that 37 is too old. Maybe it is, I don't know. We all cannot stay young forever. I just figured that since I had a full head of hair was under 40 that I still might have a shot out here.

Okay, let me respond to mompi,

I am still in Japan but I agree with you. You cannot blame the land that you travel to, no place on earth owes anyone anything. You can't travel to California 150 years after the "gold rush" and get mad if you can't find gold. "Glory Days" have a shelf life. I just didn't know Japan had expired long ago.

My goals are really simple now, bang a couple more hookers and get drunk a few more times. I have not left Japan yet. The goals have simply changed.

Let me say a few more things to at least maybe give a few of you a laugh or two. So the ladies are not treating my like The Beatles on their first USA tour after their plane landed. I have not transformed into "Charisma Man". But for some reason Japanese guys want to hang with me, be my friend and even give me compliments. Now the glass half full crowd will say "be glad anyone said anything nice about you". True dat, however, isn't it pathetic that an American guy in his late 30s goes to Japan with the mission of becoming "Charisma Man" only to have a bunch of dudes want to be his friend while also changing his vacation mission to banging a few more hookers. I must just be a delusional fool who arrived to a party that ended 17 years ago...............
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