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Why go to all the way to philiphines and pay hookers?

You could do that back home, thing called backpage and craiglist. Its way cheaper than spending money on airfares,hotels,taxi and so on.


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Mr Natural wrote:
publicduende wrote:.Why would anyone have to pay for an hour or two of sex with a young woman
Umm, because they want to have sex with a young woman for just an hour or two?
Of course. What I meant was, with a little bit of patience and savoir-faire, you can have sex with them for free, and for a few days and nights.
Other than the ego boost one gets for not having paid directly, I don't see how this is any different from going to a prostitute.
That's a very cynical way to view it. How about the feeling of emotional connection you have with a girl who wants to have sex with you for you, not for the cash? Most young Filipinas tend to get attached to a man who treats them well in bed and outside, but it's perfectly possible to find young (and not so young) women who are just there for a fling.

If I have to explain you what the difference is between sex for the sake of money and sex for the sake of attraction, intimacy, affection, perhaps the promise of a bond, etc. - you'll probably never get it anyway.
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publicduende wrote:
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publicduende wrote:.Why would anyone have to pay for an hour or two of sex with a young woman
Umm, because they want to have sex with a young woman for just an hour or two?
Of course. What I meant was, with a little bit of patience and savoir-faire, you can have sex with them for free, and for a few days and nights.
OutWest wrote:It seems like quite an admission that even in the Philippines, one has to pay a girl to get any.
Um don't you two get it? To get sex with a Filipina for free, you would have to pretend to be in love with her and desire a monogamous relationship with her. Some guys just want the sex, they don't want to pretend to be interested in a serious monogamous relationship just to get sex. Duh. Isn't that obvious?

Also, some guys prefer sex with no strings attached and to have multiple partners. Bar girls provide an easy way to get that. And are a low cost option too.

It's also kind of like fast food. Why do people get fast food? Because it's cheap and quick of course. Same principle.

How can all this be over you head? It's common sense.

Also Outwest, most of these girls that foreigners date in the Philippines are poor. They NEED money. Why do you expect them to give sex for free? It's a poor country where people make very little money. Of course they NEED the money. Everything is a give and take in this world. You can't get something for nothing. That's the way the world is. Haven't you gone out into the real world yet? lol. People ask for what they need. Men need sex. Women need money in poor countries. So they trade. What's so hard to understand about that? Duh! lol
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Banano wrote:Why go to all the way to philiphines and pay hookers?

You could do that back home, thing called backpage and craiglist. Its way cheaper than spending money on airfares,hotels,taxi and so on.
Duh. Because:

1. Angeles City bar girls are often a GFE, girlfriend experience, if you are a decent guy that is. US escorts are not.
2. Angeles City bar girls let me kiss them on the mouth. US escorts do not.
3. Angeles City bar girls will stay with me several hours or all night. US escorts will only be with you for an hour. If you want to have dinner with them, they will charge you the same rate.
4. Angeles City bar girls will sometimes let me make sex videos with them, for a little extra tip or nothing. US escorts will not.
5. Angeles City bar girls will sometimes let me finish inside them without a condom. US escorts will not.
6. Angeles City bar girls are often sweet, humble and appreciative. They make me feel like a real man. But US escorts are business like and have an entitlement mentality.
7. Angeles City bar girls will give me their personal mobile number so we can remain in touch and maintain a possible friendship or relationship. US escorts will not, they will simply tell you to call their agency if you want to see them again.
8. If you have sex with multiple bar girls, it comes out cheaper than having several US escorts, which each cost at least $200 an hour.

This has been explained to you THOUSANDS of times Banano. Why do you keep repeating the same dumb questions?! Duh. I know all the above from FIRSTHAND experience.

Btw, a few days ago I made a sex video with a girl I barfined here in Angeles City. She didn't ask me for any extra tip for it either, but I gave her some anyway to be appreciative. It was awesome. I hadn't made a sex video like that since 2006. :)

I definitely couldn't have done that with a US escort or at a US brothel.

Btw, despite all the negatives of Angeles City, I definitely feel like I'm in my element here. The girls are sweet and humble. And everyone looks up to me and treats me like "the boss". There is a natural soothing flow to everything that you can never get in the US. It's very soothing to your mind and soul.
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I am going to move to the Philippines because I have been trying to talk to girls on the street in Downtown Los Angeles, California, and this this how they are responding to me:

And I have also talked to many Filipinas over Skype, and they respond SUPER differently. The way they act (not everyone I've talked to, but most) is a whole new world...this is how women are supposed to act. I am masculine...and I am attracted to FEMININE women.

I try to meet them and get to know girls in LA, but they are not letting me do that. I am so grateful for this website Winston! I'm going to go to the Philippines and have a serious polyamorous/polygamous lifestyle, where multiple Filipinas all live with me in the same house and we all love each other! I am setting up a master mind group on Facebook for this: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1716773705223106/

And I am going to record my life with all these beautiful, feminine, LOVELY Filipinas! My whole life...and I am going to show America how toxic their lives are and how HAPPY I am, so that they can change what they are doing and become healthier and happier!

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Winston wrote:Um don't you two get it? To get sex with a Filipina for free, you would have to pretend to be in love with her and desire a monogamous relationship with her. Some guys just want the sex, they don't want to pretend to be interested in a serious monogamous relationship just to get sex. Duh. Isn't that obvious?

Also, some guys prefer sex with no strings attached and to have multiple partners. Bar girls provide an easy way to get that. And are a low cost option too.

It's also kind of like fast food. Why do people get fast food? Because it's cheap and quick of course. Same principle.

How can all this be over you head? It's common sense.

Also Outwest, most of these girls that foreigners date in the Philippines are poor. They NEED money. Why do you expect them to give sex for free? It's a poor country where people make very little money. Of course they NEED the money. Everything is a give and take in this world. You can't get something for nothing. That's the way the world is. Haven't you gone out into the real world yet? lol. People ask for what they need. Men need sex. Women need money in poor countries. So they trade. What's so hard to understand about that? Duh! lol
Winston, the fact it didn't happen to you (to have sex with a Filipina for the sake of sex), doesn't mean it can't happen to anyone. Will n Dowd has been reporting getting laid left right and centre despite making it very, very clear from the onset that he never wanted more a short fling or a fubu.
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publicduende wrote:
Winston wrote:Um don't you two get it? To get sex with a Filipina for free, you would have to pretend to be in love with her and desire a monogamous relationship with her. Some guys just want the sex, they don't want to pretend to be interested in a serious monogamous relationship just to get sex. Duh. Isn't that obvious?

Also, some guys prefer sex with no strings attached and to have multiple partners. Bar girls provide an easy way to get that. And are a low cost option too.

It's also kind of like fast food. Why do people get fast food? Because it's cheap and quick of course. Same principle.

How can all this be over you head? It's common sense.

Also Outwest, most of these girls that foreigners date in the Philippines are poor. They NEED money. Why do you expect them to give sex for free? It's a poor country where people make very little money. Of course they NEED the money. Everything is a give and take in this world. You can't get something for nothing. That's the way the world is. Haven't you gone out into the real world yet? lol. People ask for what they need. Men need sex. Women need money in poor countries. So they trade. What's so hard to understand about that? Duh! lol
Winston, the fact it didn't happen to you (to have sex with a Filipina for the sake of sex), it doesn't meant it can't happen to anyone. Will n Dowd has been reporting getting laid left right and centre despite making it very, very clear for the onset that he never wanted more a short fling or a fubu.
As you say. I'm well as into my 50s even if I am in good shape, and I likely get at least a proposal a week. If I actually was trying, that would probably double. Whatever their motives, some girls make it quite clear that they want to rumble, including things like..." I will come and see you..." Or " just give me a baby..."

But Winston is right about one thing,: if money is all you have to offer, make sure you are with a girl who is asking nothing more. While this is especially so in the Philippines, even girls elsewhere tend to be full of surprises sometimes. I'm in Oregon at the moment and had dinner last night with a 58 year old man and his 26 year old GF. I think it MUST be about the money, at least I thought so. It turns out she is loaded.
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OutWest wrote:I'm in Oregon at the moment and had dinner last night with a 58 year old man and his 26 year old GF. I think it MUST be about the money, at least I thought so. It turns out she is loaded.
I didn't know George Clooney had a house in Oregon and had selected HA-ers in his habitue list :)

No, jokes apart, Filipinas are absolutely drawn to men who show charisma, confidence and are in particularly good shape, this before even starting to show their financial guns. In Davao I see quite a few Koreans, and they tend to have polar opposites reactions from young local girls, regardless of age and economic status. Those who have the demure, clumsy and slightly pervy attitude will only be seen with one-night-only sluts and very modest fuglies (probably in need for a quick cash). Those who walk straight, confidently and take out the wallet only when they feel like it, not when the girls meow about it, get all the cuties and the hotties.

The "barrier to entry" (metaphorically prior to physically LOL) is so, so, so low in the Philippines, especially in the deep province, it's almost a shame not to try a lil' bit harder with one's personality, confidence and, well, cultural adaptation...and the results can be a large multiple of that effort (while we all know it's 1/x in most Western countries).

That's why I say - ya' know - going the path of absolute least resistance sounds to me almost an insult to the bountiful ladies' paradise that is the Land of the Morning.
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publicduende wrote:
Winston wrote:Um don't you two get it? To get sex with a Filipina for free, you would have to pretend to be in love with her and desire a monogamous relationship with her. Some guys just want the sex, they don't want to pretend to be interested in a serious monogamous relationship just to get sex. Duh. Isn't that obvious?

Also, some guys prefer sex with no strings attached and to have multiple partners. Bar girls provide an easy way to get that. And are a low cost option too.

It's also kind of like fast food. Why do people get fast food? Because it's cheap and quick of course. Same principle.

How can all this be over you head? It's common sense.

Also Outwest, most of these girls that foreigners date in the Philippines are poor. They NEED money. Why do you expect them to give sex for free? It's a poor country where people make very little money. Of course they NEED the money. Everything is a give and take in this world. You can't get something for nothing. That's the way the world is. Haven't you gone out into the real world yet? lol. People ask for what they need. Men need sex. Women need money in poor countries. So they trade. What's so hard to understand about that? Duh! lol
Winston, the fact it didn't happen to you (to have sex with a Filipina for the sake of sex), doesn't mean it can't happen to anyone. Will n Dowd has been reporting getting laid left right and centre despite making it very, very clear from the onset that he never wanted more a short fling or a fubu.
Not exactly. Of course ive had free sex with filipinas. Its well documented. Why do you think i have a son? Duh.

When a guy meets a filipina off a dating site, theres no guarantee he will get laid that night. Not all filipinas are easy as you think. Some guys are impatient and want something guaranteed.

Will n dowd exaggerates. He got bad karma after a while when all the girls in davao got angry at him because he was banging multiple girls and developed a reputation as a player. Didnt you hear about it?

He also said that he never even buys dinner for the girls he bangs. Thats how cheap he is. Is that the kind of role model you want to praise?
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Once a man is a hard core monger, it is unlikely his soul will ever recover, and he will not likely be capable of real relationships with girls. It seems that straight girls and their families can smell a MONGER a mile away. Lol
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Winston wrote:Um don't you two get it? To get sex with a Filipina for free, you would have to pretend to be in love with her and desire a monogamous relationship with her. Some guys just want the sex, they don't want to pretend to be interested in a serious monogamous relationship just to get sex. Duh. Isn't that obvious?
Not at all obvious; the Philippines is known for it's mistress culture. You wouldn't believe the number of second and third families some Filipino guys have out there, the number of side women they keep entertained. And yet Westerners leave the Philippines thinking they are sex gods. :roll:

Bottom line: you don't have to pretend. There's no shortage of freaks out there and casual sex is very much a possibility.
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MarcosZeitola wrote:
Winston wrote:Um don't you two get it? To get sex with a Filipina for free, you would have to pretend to be in love with her and desire a monogamous relationship with her. Some guys just want the sex, they don't want to pretend to be interested in a serious monogamous relationship just to get sex. Duh. Isn't that obvious?
Not at all obvious; the Philippines is known for it's mistress culture. You wouldn't believe the number of second and third families some Filipino guys have out there, the number of side women they keep entertained. And yet Westerners leave the Philippines thinking they are sex gods. :roll:

Bottom line: you don't have to pretend. There's no shortage of freaks out there and casual sex is very much a possibility.

That's not always true Winston. I've met some girls in Metro Manila who are up for sport shagging and don't expect (nor even desire in many cases) a relationship out of it nor financial benefit. The clubs and call centers may have a good share of such girls. Maybe you can read "One Night Stan" to get a bit of a humorous perspective on hook-up culture here.

The only catch is that she has to be somehow attracted to you or else maybe quite drunk lol. So guys who are better looking and/or younger or somehow funny and charismatic to Filipina sensibilities are gonna have way more chances with such girls of course.

If you are someone who is almost universally considered physically unattractive by opposite sex, then yes I suppose you might have to resort to winning Filipina's heart by acting in love with her, courting her aggressively, and being patient. It's likely that all that might not work much of the time but with Filipinas, at least you stand a fighting chance. However, if you are just faking all that, then yes I believe you're right. It's much better to just go the P4P route.

Up in Angeles where you hang, the girls transplanted from impoverished rural areas of Philippines quickly learn to use their charms as a means of extracting material benefit from men. And they quickly devalue men's efforts and goodwill towards them. This is because they have contact with so many in short periods of time and get massive amounts of attention if they are at all decent looking. So there is not much of a no strings attached hook-up dynamic there other than perhaps the much more attractive and younger guys shoring certain hos for free or heavily discounted sex.
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MarcosZeitola wrote:
Winston wrote:Um don't you two get it? To get sex with a Filipina for free, you would have to pretend to be in love with her and desire a monogamous relationship with her. Some guys just want the sex, they don't want to pretend to be interested in a serious monogamous relationship just to get sex. Duh. Isn't that obvious?
Not at all obvious; the Philippines is known for it's mistress culture. You wouldn't believe the number of second and third families some Filipino guys have out there, the number of side women they keep entertained. And yet Westerners leave the Philippines thinking they are sex gods. :roll:

Bottom line: you don't have to pretend. There's no shortage of freaks out there and casual sex is very much a possibility.
Yeah but men with second families have to support them somehow with monthly support. It's not all free. There are consequences to everything. Even if you get it without paying, there are karmic consequences.

It's not in a girl's nature to have casual sex with no strings attached. There may be some, but that isnt true of the majority of females. Most women want a lover and true partner. Not a fling. If you ask them, they will all say that of course.

Also the girls that seek casual sex want hot guys, not average looking guys. They need to be stimulated by looks.

How come on dating sites, most female profiles say "If you're just looking for sex, don't contact me", but you NEVER see that on a guy's profile? How come I never see on a genuine girl's dating profile that she's looking for casual sex only, and not love or money or commitment?

So if there are girls actively seeking casual sex, why do they never advertise it online, yet men freely do? I've never met a girl who admitted that she only wanted casual sex with no commitment and no money and no love involved. Not even one girls has ever said that to me. Why not?
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