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Re: I'm back in the Philippines... Wow!

Postby Winston » Wed Jan 14, 2015 4:15 pm

Banano wrote:What does man do when he turns 40, keep chasing illusive dream called Poosy?

Does it get old to chase whores in 3rd world country in places such as AC and Pattaya? These girls are soulless, used up fuk machines

When you observe expats in TH and Ph all you see is sad and jaded men who favor beer over poosy.


Yes and no. Anything can get old, but when you leave it, you will miss it. For example, if you eat your favorite food everyday, it will get old after a while. But if you stop eating it for a few weeks, you will begin to crave it again. Same with whores and bar girls. Life is like that. So is pleasure. That's the nature of things. There is no complete everlasting satisfaction. If you studied Buddhism or Eastern Religion, you'd know that. So stop seeing things in black and white.

In reality, everything is complicated, multi-faceted, and in shades of gray. There is no simple explanation for everything like you want. Everything has multiple causes and factors and angles. I'm tired of lecturing you guys about the nature of reality. Why are you guys so dense and one dimensional? You assume everything is easily understood and in black and white and only has one or two explanations and causes. The world is not like that. No story in real life is simple or easy to understand.
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Re: I'm back in the Philippines... Wow!

Postby Winston » Wed Jan 14, 2015 4:49 pm

MarcosZeitola wrote:
MrBlueLight wrote:Doesn't change the fact that you can only find your happiness in a whore city.


I don't think Winston finds happiness with whores, he just finds temporary relief from his built up sexual tension, which allows him to live peacefully for a while longer. He's not the world's youngest man anymore, and he has had women of all nationalities, colors, shapes and sizes. Clearly getting women isn't that big of an issue for him, he just likes to endulge in short-lived hedonist pleasures and debaucheries. To each their own, live and let live, yada, yada, yada. But Winston, remember, you're not twenty anymore. You have a son. Find a good woman, settle down. You will see that her smile means more to you then strangers' smiles.


It depends on how you define happiness. I told you to stop looking for simple black and white answers. Of course I experience happiness with bar girls, if they are hot and treat me good and affectionate and give good sex. But there's no such thing as complete permanent fulfillment. Everything is fleeting and transitory. That's the nature of reality.

You are thinking with too much of a Hollywood happy ending mindset. If I settled down and became a monogamous family man, then how do I deal with my craving and fantasizing for sexual variety? I've asked you this many times. You never respond or address it.

Some guys only get a high and arousal out of having new partners, which makes their sexual hormones and instincts feel like they are having a "conquest". Some guys only want sex with a new partner because it gives them the feeling that they are "winning" a new woman by getting her to put out for the first time. Subsequent times with her will be less enjoyable.

What can you do about that? There is no easy win-win answer like you assume there is. I've posted about this many times, yet you have failed to address this or find an answer to it.

Also Marco, you can only speak for yourself. You can't speak for another man's needs and happiness. Not all guys are the same. Not all guys derive happiness from the same things you do. We all fallaciously assume that what's true for us is true for everyone. But that's not so. You appear to be making that kind of fallacy here too.
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Re: I'm back in the Philippines... Wow!

Postby davewe » Wed Jan 14, 2015 4:53 pm

Winston wrote:Yes and no. Anything can get old, but when you leave it, you will miss it. For example, if you eat your favorite food everyday, it will get old after a while. But if you stop eating it for a few weeks, you will begin to crave it again. Same with whores and bar girls. That's the nature of things. There is no complete everlasting satisfaction. If you studied Buddhism or Eastern Religion, you'd know that.


As the official HA representative of old age I can say definitively that you're always going to crave women till the day you die, even at an age where you can't do much about it. But not everyone spends their life craving "whores and bar girls." I've been a lifelong practicing Buddhist and I don't recall any sutras about the need for whores and bargirls :)
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Re: I'm back in the Philippines... Wow!

Postby Winston » Wed Jan 14, 2015 4:58 pm

To those of you who have been to Angeles City:

Have you noticed that most of the expats in AC not only look old, fat, and bald, but their faces do NOT look kind or decent at all. They look like rough redneck types with no feeling or emotion. Some even have cold looking, evil, sociopathic eyes. It's kind of creepy to see such soulless people. Many of these guys in AC look like the kind of guys you'd rather shoot than talk to, because they are monstrous looking. I'm referring to their personalities and facial expressions too, not just their looks. They don't look like normal friendly men at all. I feel sorry for the bar girls or girls that have to put up with them for money. I don't see how any girl can put up with men who are so cold and whom they cannot connect with. Men in AC like that make me feel so out of place in AC. Every time I see them, I wonder WTF I'm doing here. Yet they make up most expat men in AC. WTF?

Any of you notice this too when you were in AC?

Why aren't there more normal looking men in AC, the kind who are kind, friendly, honest, cheerful and approachable, like me?
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Re: I'm back in the Philippines... Wow!

Postby Winston » Wed Jan 14, 2015 5:03 pm

davewe wrote:
Winston wrote:Yes and no. Anything can get old, but when you leave it, you will miss it. For example, if you eat your favorite food everyday, it will get old after a while. But if you stop eating it for a few weeks, you will begin to crave it again. Same with whores and bar girls. That's the nature of things. There is no complete everlasting satisfaction. If you studied Buddhism or Eastern Religion, you'd know that.


As the official HA representative of old age I can say definitively that you're always going to crave women till the day you die, even at an age where you can't do much about it. But not everyone spends their life craving "whores and bar girls." I've been a lifelong practicing Buddhist and I don't recall any sutras about the need for whores and bargirls :)


Buddhism doesn't talk about bar girls. But it does talk about sexual cravings and bodily lusts. Come on. You know what I mean. I was referring to the transitory nature of all things, including happiness and pleasure. If you studied any basic Buddhism, you'd know what I'm talking about. Some guys on this forum seem to presume that happiness is supposed to be permanent and everlasting. They seem to lack understanding about the nature of reality and put things in simple black and white boxes. But reality is not like that. Every man's story is complicated and cannot be summarized in a few sentences or paragraphs, or even in one whole book. The same goes true for every major event in history, which is why whole books have been written about them, yet they are always incomplete.
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Re: I'm back in the Philippines... Wow!

Postby Winston » Wed Jan 14, 2015 6:37 pm

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MrBlueLight wrote:Normal Filipinas are everywhere yet he just has to go to the whore city. His definition of true freedom is pretty messed up then.


His view is skewed but there are many instances of outside angeles where the girls will give you that eye flirtatiously or are very open to conversation. you dont get that cause your not white but it is real. Its just in angeles its a bit exaggerated. If winston stayed in cebu or manila like Rock who has confirmed that women aren't as flirtatious as winston claims then maybe he would alter his views a little.


No I get that too outside of AC even though I'm Asian. MrBlueLight is talking up his ass and doesn't know what he's talking about. As a Chinese looking person, I actually get more respect and more smiles than whites in a way, because most major businesses in the Philippines are owned by Chinese. So Filipinos are used to treating Chinese people with respect and giving them extra courtesy. That's another reason I get smiles here.

Either way, it's definitely much easier to talk to girls in the Philippines, and I mean in any city or town or village, not just Angeles City. There's no question about that. Even Rock will attest to that. There is a relaxness in the Philippines that few countries have. Filipinos do not generally think or analyze much, that's why they are so nonjudgmental. That can be a good thing but it can also be a bad thing too of course, such as when Filipino customer service people are not considerate of your needs, like for example when Filipino waiters don't even think to come to your table and refill your water or ask if you need anything. They are just too relaxed to think about such things. As a result, they don't look for ways to improve things or make them better, so if something breaks, they don't fix it unless someone complains.
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Re: I'm back in the Philippines... Wow!

Postby Billy » Wed Jan 14, 2015 7:24 pm

yeah, they only need rice and karaoke then they are happy. I think it has something to do with the climate. As they have no deadly winter for thousands of years they are quite relaxed. Whereas in northern climates people prepared for the winter or died. So northern people are always driven and are afraid of the next winter. The problem is you can not win against winter. You have to prepare every new year. You can never relax.

Southern people had not that problem. So it´s ingrained in their culture maybe even in their DNA. So they are really more relaxed than other folks. Otherwise they would be another Korea already. But they don´t really care. They are pride to be simple and able to have fun without having many posessions. Of course then the tayfun comes and people die but it´s quickly forgetten.
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Re: I'm back in the Philippines... Wow!

Postby newlifeinphilippines » Wed Jan 14, 2015 9:08 pm

Banano wrote:What does man do when he turns 40, keep chasing illusive dream called Poosy?

Does it get old to chase whores in 3rd world country in places such as AC and Pattaya? These girls are soulless, used up fuk machines

When you observe expats in TH and Ph all you see is sad and jaded men who favor beer over poosy.


Yeah those guys who love to drink and dont even want a woman in those places? Its very bizarre and homosexual. I wouldn't hang out in a girlie bar unless i wanted a girl for the night.

Anyways this is proof that the biblical teachings are correct cause look at Winston he keeps chasing whores and is miserable and Marcos who is following a more biblical lifestyle is happier.
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Re: I'm back in the Philippines... Wow!

Postby Jester » Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:07 am

newlifeinphilippines wrote:
Banano wrote:What does man do when he turns 40, keep chasing illusive dream called Poosy?

Does it get old to chase whores in 3rd world country in places such as AC and Pattaya? These girls are soulless, used up fuk machines

When you observe expats in TH and Ph all you see is sad and jaded men who favor beer over poosy.


Yeah those guys who love to drink and dont even want a woman in those places? Its very bizarre and homosexual. I wouldn't hang out in a girlie bar unless i wanted a girl for the night.

Anyways this is proof that the biblical teachings are correct cause look at Winston he keeps chasing whores and is miserable and Marcos who is following a more biblical lifestyle is happier.


Yet last I heard, Zeitola is an agnostic, whereas you and Winston are "Evangelicals". Thus we see that Christian is as Christian DOES. Or as James wrote, "Faith without works is dead."
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Re: I'm back in the Philippines... Wow!

Postby newlifeinphilippines » Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:15 am

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newlifeinphilippines wrote:
Banano wrote:What does man do when he turns 40, keep chasing illusive dream called Poosy?

Does it get old to chase whores in 3rd world country in places such as AC and Pattaya? These girls are soulless, used up fuk machines

When you observe expats in TH and Ph all you see is sad and jaded men who favor beer over poosy.


Yeah those guys who love to drink and dont even want a woman in those places? Its very bizarre and homosexual. I wouldn't hang out in a girlie bar unless i wanted a girl for the night.

Anyways this is proof that the biblical teachings are correct cause look at Winston he keeps chasing whores and is miserable and Marcos who is following a more biblical lifestyle is happier.


Yet last I heard, Zeitola is an agnostic, whereas you and Winston are "Evangelicals". Thus we see that Christian is as Christian DOES. Or as James wrote, "Faith without works is dead."


Yes I agree with you that it should be evident of your faith through santification if you truly are given the holy spirit. Some people you dont know though cause they periodically stumble or have one area they are strugglign with and thats why Paul said to work out your election with fear and trembling cause you dont want to be in doubt of your salvation that you were given originally if your living a bad life. If you are born again it should be evident.

Winston is not an evangelical though. Maybe as a child but obviously his faith is DEAD so I wouldn't consider him ever born again but only God knows all this. I see no evidence in scripture of someone saying a prayer one time as a child and getting to live like the devil and also losing faith in Jesus and rejecting him for the rest of their life.
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Re: I'm back in the Philippines... Wow!

Postby Banano » Thu Jan 15, 2015 1:32 am

I was in AC back in late 2008 but I never felt any desire to return and its not because of $$ issue but because its soulless place with greedy people and low level hoes that leaves you drained, not so much financially but emotionally.
Place like that attracts worst of the worst, everyone tries to scam you from the moment you step out of plane.

You guard has to be up at ALL times, on the way to supermarket you get harassed by taxi drivers who cant understand that you dont need their service to homeless kids who keep touching you and begging for money. happens every single day, no matter that how many times you tell em NO these folks keep going... must be 1000s of years of heat that fried their brain cells

As for girls, what can i say, they are there for money and you are customer and potential husband-sponsor. I saw very little value in those girls apart from pump dump routine but even that feels cheap.
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Re: I'm back in the Philippines... Wow!

Postby Rock » Thu Jan 15, 2015 2:16 am

They say it's more fun in the Philippines. That may be true. Here it's easier to make friends, even middle class ones. There is often a cheerful attitude, people are very easygoing and tolerant, and they are very polite. They don't seem to put you under a microscope and judge you on every little detail. Attitude means a lot here.

I have some very generous local friends who have the means to spend money. They are kind and giving :) They will fight to pay for everything. They don't expect anything back except sincerity and respect.

But, here you also have to deal with layers and layers of inefficiency, gross stupidity, laziness, and total lack of common sense. What might take 5 minutes in Taiwan could take you hours here. You will spend time in queue after queue only to be told you need to go somewhere else, they are out of whatever it is you want, the system is offline, etc. You can spend 2 hours traveling just a couple kilometers in Metro Manila traffic if you don't time things right. So much of the public infrastructure is horribly pathetic, more African than Asian. Yet private industry builds some beautiful and magnificent condos, malls, casinos, and resorts within all this crumbling public lattice so it's a very bizarre experience mixing first and third worlds.

Thailand is soooo much better infrastructure wise. But...Thais in Pattaya and much of Bangkok often have horrible attitudes underneath. Many seethe with thinly veiled contempt at we visitors who have overtaken much of the space in the capital the way Filipinos do in Central Hong Kong every Sunday. 30 million foreign arrivals a year - know it all westerners who monger with the lowest element, uncouth, loud, and uncivilized Chinese, dirty smelly Indians and Arabs, etc. etc, you get the picture. And to make things worse, Thais identify with one strong and culture which westerners often find baffling. And we visitors and expats are squarely on the outside of that. In contrast, Philippines is more a large collection of disjointed groups (barangays regional and language divisions, etc.) with a weaker national identity. They don't stick together (us vs. them) the way Thais do. While Phils. has a somewhat larger population than Thailand, they only get 1 foreign visitor for every 6 who go to Thailand. They have not suffered from foreigner invasion the way Thailand has...yet anyway. I've toured many provincial Filipino cities and towns and gone days without seeing a westerner. The only place where I see a concentration of them is Metro Manila (in certain areas), Angeles City along Fields and Friendship, Cebu, Boracay, and perhaps a smattering of other resort/tourist areas.

As for Angeles City, it is magnet for bad elements, just like Pattaya. But, I like to visit there once in awhile. It's like a provincial city with western amenities - restaurants/food, hotels, swimming pools, bars and nightlife, casinos, day tours to Pinatubo, hot springs, or Subic, etc. You can eat international food and chill with other expats. Not all are as dreadful as Winston portrays. There's quite a few cool black American guys there too if you can manage to break into any of their cliques. I love visiting provincial cities to escape the vertical jungle of Makati and Metro Manila. But they are generally not western friendly and have horrible food and infrastructure compared to Metro Manila. Angeles City is the exception.
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Re: I'm back in the Philippines... Wow!

Postby Rock » Thu Jan 15, 2015 2:29 am

I think someone should make a video walking through malls in various countries and greeting each and every young lady or group of young ladies with a smile and hello to contrast the reactions.

In Philippines, I think regular people in public can be rather shy and don't just smile at random strangers as much as they do in say DR, Colombia, or maybe Brazil. Many of the better looking non-desperate girls you see in higher end malls, etc. can even be standoffish. But if you deal at the very low-end (those public outdoor markets Taco talks about or the lowest paid and least attractive mall girls Will N. Dowd likes to mingle with) then you can elicit some smiles and even flirting.

In general, a lot of Filipinos are still approachable. If you engage them in the right way they will definitely help you out in majority of cases if you ask for directions, etc. But when I walk out and about malls here and there, I feel mostly invisible, just like I do in most other places (except maybe in countries or areas dominated by black African populations).

As for Japan (Greater Tokyo) in my visits there, it's a weird place. When you stop a stranger, they will talk to you. They will smile in a weird way. If you ask directions, they may spend 5 or 10 minutes drawing you out a detailed map while explaining every detail (usually in Japanese lol). They do make eye contact too. But it all seems fake and phony, almost as if you are talking to a robot or something. If you are some kind of guest or visitor to a business, they are also very formal but smile and bow a lot. If you club with them, they can be chill and looser. And there are some vids of black dudes (sometimes w Japanese wing) approaching Japanese girls. The reactions aren't all that bad in many cases. Japanese are a different breed than S. Koreans, Chinese, Taiwanese, HKers, SPeans, etc. They have their own ways. Don't say too much about them Winston if you've never even been in country.
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Re: I'm back in the Philippines... Wow!

Postby starchild5 » Thu Jan 15, 2015 1:38 pm

newlifeinphilippines wrote:
Anyways this is proof that the biblical teachings are correct cause look at Winston he keeps chasing whores and is miserable and Marcos who is following a more biblical lifestyle is happier.


LOL...I'm Christian and I also, do whore around and date multiple girls and I'm more happy than my miserable existence attending Sunday schools and bible classes back in India.

You don't know, we do it extra hard in India with relation to religion. In the west, its much easier.

The Church and bible teaching shrink'ed my soul more than anything else. The reason you are seein'g me here and not the GOOD CHURCHY BIBLE READING guy is...They are SLAVES to the System....Those who go to Church are mere Social Slaves...You will never encounter them in your life, unless you went to see them on a Sunday Church mass as they are too busy working for the system.

You are the proof that Church has failed in its mission, as you couldn't get a girl in Church in America that you would really like. You too Semi-Whored in Philippines and it opened up your views to the world :)

As I said...Western Societies are way too Singular..Its the DNA, genetics, i guess

An American nerd is the smartest on earth, but he can't seem to get a girl friend. If a guy is good looking, work out, then he will have difficulty working on computer programs. If an American has money, then he will have problem with women...Usually, 50% divorce rate in most western countries, in-spite of being the most intelligent, rich and educated people on earth. They are only very good at one thing and you base that into other people's life's as well.

You are pigeon holing people based on only one Equation...Jesus > Church > Bible . There is so much to a human being than what the society labels them.

Human Beings are much more resilient, adopting, durable, multi tasking, than they are given credit for. I can be happy at the same time, date many girls, travel, work, take care of family, be with friends, eat good food, make good food...It feels all natural to many people especially Asian's.

If a girl comes along the way, whom I want to spend all the time with...I will abandon my whoring ways and marry her and live with her too...I'm pretty much going on that route now and may get settled down this year as I believe I have found the girl I really like.

You should expand your vision....Even if, I'm with only one girl...I will not condemn, guys who date many girls....Its their life's..Live and Let Live...I don't judge...Especially not with the eyes of Sin from Bible.

See....I have already found the girl I like and I may settle down soon..I'm flexible...I can live my whoring ways in a day....If the force doesn't interfere that is :lol: :lol:
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Re: I'm back in the Philippines... Wow!

Postby newlifeinphilippines » Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:13 pm

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newlifeinphilippines wrote:
Anyways this is proof that the biblical teachings are correct cause look at Winston he keeps chasing whores and is miserable and Marcos who is following a more biblical lifestyle is happier.


LOL...I'm Christian and I also, do whore around and date multiple girls and I'm more happy than my miserable existence attending Sunday schools and bible classes back in India.

You don't know, we do it extra hard in India with relation to religion. In the west, its much easier.

The Church and bible teaching shrink'ed my soul more than anything else. The reason you are seein'g me here and not the GOOD CHURCHY BIBLE READING guy is...They are SLAVES to the System....Those who go to Church are mere Social Slaves...You will never encounter them in your life, unless you went to see them on a Sunday Church mass as they are too busy working for the system.

You are the proof that Church has failed in its mission, as you couldn't get a girl in Church in America that you would really like. You too Semi-Whored in Philippines and it opened up your views to the world :)

As I said...Western Societies are way too Singular..Its the DNA, genetics, i guess

An American nerd is the smartest on earth, but he can't seem to get a girl friend. If a guy is good looking, work out, then he will have difficulty working on computer programs. If an American has money, then he will have problem with women...Usually, 50% divorce rate in most western countries, in-spite of being the most intelligent, rich and educated people on earth. They are only very good at one thing and you base that into other people's life's as well.

You are pigeon holing people based on only one Equation...Jesus > Church > Bible . There is so much to a human being than what the society labels them.

Human Beings are much more resilient, adopting, durable, multi tasking, than they are given credit for. I can be happy at the same time, date many girls, travel, work, take care of family, be with friends, eat good food, make good food...It feels all natural to many people especially Asian's.

If a girl comes along the way, whom I want to spend all the time with...I will abandon my whoring ways and marry her and live with her too...I'm pretty much going on that route now and may get settled down this year as I believe I have found the girl I really like.

You should expand your vision....Even if, I'm with only one girl...I will not condemn, guys who date many girls....Its their life's..Live and Let Live...I don't judge...Especially not with the eyes of Sin from Bible.

See....I have already found the girl I like and I may settle down soon..I'm flexible...I can live my whoring ways in a day....If the force doesn't interfere that is :lol: :lol:


Well see your even going back to the natural state of wanting to settle down with one girl.

Actually growing up i never went to church we just studied the bible at home. I only started going to church just recently. Church doesn't save someone but its part of a encompassing of things. I also tend to be quiet and dont approach women and im not that attractive so my choices are extremely limited to say the least. In philippines they just want your money and the ones that dont seem to be more standoffish. I met one girl at the church in philippines and she was very strict christian and she wanted to befriend me but i wasn't interested in her in that way.
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