"Rock with Winston" in the Philippines!

[Winston]

No, but there are some bars in Quezon where the girls are whiter and of porn star quality and sit in lined rows that you can peep into through a window. I'll have to ask Mr S where those are.

Yeah the girls in EDSA are colder and more business-like, but they are hotter and fun to look at at least, and since you are Mr. Curious...

The interior is also classier. I just thought you'd wanna go and compare and see for yourself?

Burgos St. is fun to walk around too. It's like Fields, but cleaner and with taller girls. We can stay in those 700p per 12 hours apartelles again, like Winston Hotel. lol

I still have my discount card from Winston Hotel. Rock told me to show it around to girls and tell them that I am the owner there. lol

[Mr S]

No, but there are some bars in Quezon where the girls are whiter and of porn star quality and sit in lined rows that you can peep into through a window. I'll have to ask Mr S where those are.

Yeah the girls in EDSA are colder and more business-like, but they are hotter and fun to look at at least, and since you are Mr. Curious...

The interior is also classier. I just thought you'd wanna go and compare and see for yourself?

Burgos St. is fun to walk around too. It's like Fields, but cleaner and with taller girls. We can stay in those 700p per 12 hours apartelles again, like Winston Hotel. lol

I still have my discount card from Winston Hotel. Rock told me to show it around to girls and tell them that I am the owner there. lol

They are on Quezon Ave; Pegasus Club is probably the best and most well known, followed by Stardust and some of the others I took you around to view before. There are also a couple of "Fitness Clubs", which are actually f**k parlors like the soapy massage places in Thailand. I never actually got a girl from one in PI, but I did tour the rooms and they are quite nice. The women are in a fish bowl setting similar to in Thailand but not as big.

There are also higher end Asian style Girly clubs on Roxas BLVD in Manila. Airforce One is known to be one of the most expensive Asian style girly bars in PI, it's near the airport. I never went there cause I was always too poor to bother. I hear you can easily drop 10k there if you chat up with the girls and buy them drinks. But they are supposed to have the best looking girls, also Pegasus & Stardust too. Bring lots of disposable cash with you if you want to play around with the girls. Most of the girls that work those places are mistresses of high roller local Filipinos, Koreans or Japanese. You'll need to prove your wealth or ability to financially give them what they want if you want to pry them away from other dudes as a f**k buddy or GF.

I always preferred Burgos cause you can find stunners around and get their numbers and half the time they would meet you after work or some other time. The girls in the Asian bars don't generally like to deal with Western men and so won't really meet up with you like the girls on Burgos st would. EDSA is okay if you aren't afraid to spend a bit on a tip after barfining a girl. There tends to be a lot of hot chicks there but they go fast, so if your not there scouting around by 8pm and you decide to wait til midnight to barfine, you'll probably be shit out of luck for decent looking girls.

If your Asian and not afraid to spend money, then the bars on Roxas Blvd or Quezon Ave are good. For us regular Western Euro slobs, we generally prefer Burgos, Edsa or Mabini St where Manila Bay and Amazonia are located (Freelancer Places).

[Winston]

It's not just about being poor or well off. I mean, I can afford to pay $5 for a stick of chewing gum, but I won't, not because I can't afford it, but because a stick of chewing gum isn't worth $5.

That's what Filipinos don't understand, that just because someone can afford something doesn't mean that all high prices are worth paying. Sensible people do not like to pay overly high prices for something that's not worth the price, even if they are rich and can afford it. Greedy Filipino bar owners don't understand that. They assume that all high prices are worth the value, even when they're not, simply out of their greed and ignorance.

[Rock]

It's not just about being poor or well off. I mean, I can afford to pay $5 for a stick of chewing gum, but I won't, not because I can't afford it, but because a stick of chewing gum isn't worth $5.

That's what Filipinos don't understand, that just because someone can afford something doesn't mean that all high prices are worth paying. Sensible people do not like to pay overly high prices for something that's not worth the price, even if they are rich and can afford it. Greedy Filipino bar owners don't understand that. They assume that all high prices are worth the value, even when they're not, simply out of their greed and ignorance.

It seems like a lot of the NE Asian guys don't mind paying relatively large amounts of money to the girls who meet their spec critea. Also, it seems that showing-off wealth may be a way of gaining face for some of them. We've talked about the Korean guys in Angeles who literally throw money down at the dancing girls from the perches above. In Bankgok, some of the clubs have been transformed by an abundance of Japanese and Korean customers. Once a bar becomes 'Asiafied', asking prices tend to get a lot steeper and girls much less keen to go with westerners. One of my Chinese American friends in Shanghai will get stunner gfs from NE China and pay them an allowance of RMB40,000 to RMB100,000 per month (US$6,182-15,455).

Prices generally trend to whatever the market will bear. If there's a subset of punters who are willing to pay 10,000 or more for an hour with a Filipina stunner, you can bet that many to most of the quality girls are going to go for a piece of that action. If you were in their shoes, wouldn't you do the same thing?

[Rock]

No, but there are some bars in Quezon where the girls are whiter and of porn star quality and sit in lined rows that you can peep into through a window. I'll have to ask Mr S where those are.

Yeah the girls in EDSA are colder and more business-like, but they are hotter and fun to look at at least, and since you are Mr. Curious...

The interior is also classier. I just thought you'd wanna go and compare and see for yourself?

Burgos St. is fun to walk around too. It's like Fields, but cleaner and with taller girls. We can stay in those 700p per 12 hours apartelles again, like Winston Hotel. lol

I still have my discount card from Winston Hotel. Rock told me to show it around to girls and tell them that I am the owner there. lol

They are on Quezon Ave; Pegasus Club is probably the best and most well known, followed by Stardust and some of the others I took you around to view before. There are also a couple of "Fitness Clubs", which are actually f**k parlors like the soapy massage places in Thailand. I never actually got a girl from one in PI, but I did tour the rooms and they are quite nice. The women are in a fish bowl setting similar to in Thailand but not as big.

There are also higher end Asian style Girly clubs on Roxas BLVD in Manila. Airforce One is known to be one of the most expensive Asian style girly bars in PI, it's near the airport. I never went there cause I was always too poor to bother. I hear you can easily drop 10k there if you chat up with the girls and buy them drinks. But they are supposed to have the best looking girls, also Pegasus & Stardust too. Bring lots of disposable cash with you if you want to play around with the girls. Most of the girls that work those places are mistresses of high roller local Filipinos, Koreans or Japanese. You'll need to prove your wealth or ability to financially give them what they want if you want to pry them away from other dudes as a f**k buddy or GF.

I always preferred Burgos cause you can find stunners around and get their numbers and half the time they would meet you after work or some other time. The girls in the Asian bars don't generally like to deal with Western men and so won't really meet up with you like the girls on Burgos st would. EDSA is okay if you aren't afraid to spend a bit on a tip after barfining a girl. There tends to be a lot of hot chicks there but they go fast, so if your not there scouting around by 8pm and you decide to wait til midnight to barfine, you'll probably be shit out of luck for decent looking girls.

If your Asian and not afraid to spend money, then the bars on Roxas Blvd or Quezon Ave are good. For us regular Western Euro slobs, we generally prefer Burgos, Edsa or Mabini St where Manila Bay and Amazonia are located (Freelancer Places).

This was written on FieldsAvenue.info about Air Force One and Flight 168. Does it sound accurate to you Mr. S?



•Air Force One:


Location: Paranaque, Metro Manila south of NAIA


Room: 3000 peso and up


Girl: 1000-1200 peso


Notes: Air Force One is the most upscale and luxurious KTV in Metro Manila, without a doubt.


The Air Force One girls are top notch. After selecting a girl, our suggestion is DO NOT get a room there. Instead, take her to a room in Flight 168 which is the massage parlor portion of Air Force One as detailed below. Air Force One rooms do not offer a bed and is for Karaoke only. Girls at the Air Force One rooms will NOT have sex with a guy in their tiny Karaoke rooms.


As with all other KTV’s, Air Force One also has a large KTV performance stage where girls dance. There is a 500 peso consumable charge.





•Flight 168:


Location: Paranaque, Metro Manila south of NAIA. Located in the Air Force One building.


Economy Class (upstairs): 1000 peso


Girl: 1500 peso


Business Class (downstairs): 2500 peso


Girl: 2000 peso


Notes: Flight 168 is the massage parlor portion of Air Force One. As said above, Air Fore Once and Flight 168 are the most upscale and luxurious you can find in Metro Manila.


If you choose a girl from the business class, you are not restricted to use the business class rooms. You may take the business class lady to the economy rooms.


Business class rooms are very similar to a high end hotel and offer a butlers services.


Promo hour is from noon - 7pm and offers a slightly discounted room rate.


Concord Cafe is in the business class area and offers a buffet for 500 peso.

[Mr S]

No, but there are some bars in Quezon where the girls are whiter and of porn star quality and sit in lined rows that you can peep into through a window. I'll have to ask Mr S where those are.

Yeah the girls in EDSA are colder and more business-like, but they are hotter and fun to look at at least, and since you are Mr. Curious...

The interior is also classier. I just thought you'd wanna go and compare and see for yourself?

Burgos St. is fun to walk around too. It's like Fields, but cleaner and with taller girls. We can stay in those 700p per 12 hours apartelles again, like Winston Hotel. lol

I still have my discount card from Winston Hotel. Rock told me to show it around to girls and tell them that I am the owner there. lol

They are on Quezon Ave; Pegasus Club is probably the best and most well known, followed by Stardust and some of the others I took you around to view before. There are also a couple of "Fitness Clubs", which are actually f**k parlors like the soapy massage places in Thailand. I never actually got a girl from one in PI, but I did tour the rooms and they are quite nice. The women are in a fish bowl setting similar to in Thailand but not as big.

There are also higher end Asian style Girly clubs on Roxas BLVD in Manila. Airforce One is known to be one of the most expensive Asian style girly bars in PI, it's near the airport. I never went there cause I was always too poor to bother. I hear you can easily drop 10k there if you chat up with the girls and buy them drinks. But they are supposed to have the best looking girls, also Pegasus & Stardust too. Bring lots of disposable cash with you if you want to play around with the girls. Most of the girls that work those places are mistresses of high roller local Filipinos, Koreans or Japanese. You'll need to prove your wealth or ability to financially give them what they want if you want to pry them away from other dudes as a f**k buddy or GF.

I always preferred Burgos cause you can find stunners around and get their numbers and half the time they would meet you after work or some other time. The girls in the Asian bars don't generally like to deal with Western men and so won't really meet up with you like the girls on Burgos st would. EDSA is okay if you aren't afraid to spend a bit on a tip after barfining a girl. There tends to be a lot of hot chicks there but they go fast, so if your not there scouting around by 8pm and you decide to wait til midnight to barfine, you'll probably be shit out of luck for decent looking girls.

If your Asian and not afraid to spend money, then the bars on Roxas Blvd or Quezon Ave are good. For us regular Western Euro slobs, we generally prefer Burgos, Edsa or Mabini St where Manila Bay and Amazonia are located (Freelancer Places).

This was written on FieldsAvenue.info about Air Force One and Flight 168. Does it sound accurate to you Mr. S?



•Air Force One:


Location: Paranaque, Metro Manila south of NAIA


Room: 3000 peso and up


Girl: 1000-1200 peso


Notes: Air Force One is the most upscale and luxurious KTV in Metro Manila, without a doubt.


The Air Force One girls are top notch. After selecting a girl, our suggestion is DO NOT get a room there. Instead, take her to a room in Flight 168 which is the massage parlor portion of Air Force One as detailed below. Air Force One rooms do not offer a bed and is for Karaoke only. Girls at the Air Force One rooms will NOT have sex with a guy in their tiny Karaoke rooms.


As with all other KTV’s, Air Force One also has a large KTV performance stage where girls dance. There is a 500 peso consumable charge.





•Flight 168:


Location: Paranaque, Metro Manila south of NAIA. Located in the Air Force One building.


Economy Class (upstairs): 1000 peso


Girl: 1500 peso


Business Class (downstairs): 2500 peso


Girl: 2000 peso


Notes: Flight 168 is the massage parlor portion of Air Force One. As said above, Air Fore Once and Flight 168 are the most upscale and luxurious you can find in Metro Manila.


If you choose a girl from the business class, you are not restricted to use the business class rooms. You may take the business class lady to the economy rooms.


Business class rooms are very similar to a high end hotel and offer a butlers services.


Promo hour is from noon - 7pm and offers a slightly discounted room rate.


Concord Cafe is in the business class area and offers a buffet for 500 peso.

Pretty much, but if you're a foreigner they will probably try to charge you more. They don't quote ladies drinks or the cost of a girl to actually sit with you though. Like I said you can easily spend 10k Pesos without realizing it. But if you want the best looking whores in Philippines, that's the place to go if you're a high roller and can afford it or want to throw your money away on short time sexual escapades. These are not long time bar fines, these are short time fees. To take a girl out of the club would either be really outrageously expensive or they won't allow it.

[Rock]

Pretty much, but if you're a foreigner they will probably try to charge you more. They don't quote ladies drinks or the cost of a girl to actually sit with you though. Like I said you can easily spend 10k Pesos without realizing it. But if you want the best looking whores in Philippines, that's the place to go if you're a high roller and can afford it or want to throw your money away on short time sexual escapades. These are not long time bar fines, these are short time fees. To take a girl out of the club would either be really outrageously expensive or they won't allow it.

Sounds a bit like a Terma in Rio. Perhaps the best strategy is to go with someone in the know. And if possible, don't drink, just pick the girl you want, and take her to the cheaper room for an hour of fun.

[Mr S]

Pretty much, but if you're a foreigner they will probably try to charge you more. They don't quote ladies drinks or the cost of a girl to actually sit with you though. Like I said you can easily spend 10k Pesos without realizing it. But if you want the best looking whores in Philippines, that's the place to go if you're a high roller and can afford it or want to throw your money away on short time sexual escapades. These are not long time bar fines, these are short time fees. To take a girl out of the club would either be really outrageously expensive or they won't allow it.

Sounds a bit like a Terma in Rio. Perhaps the best strategy is to go with someone in the know. And if possible, don't drink, just pick the girl you want, and take her to the cheaper room for an hour of fun.

Yeah, but you will have to buy something to drink and you will have to pay at least something for the girl to sit with you and chat before you know she is willing to do something with you or not. Most likely the prices you quoted are more now due to inflation. I just would rather go to Burgos than haggle with some fat disgusting mamasan for an overpriced whore. The girls on Burgos are pretty decent and they aren't as much of a pain in the ass as in those overprices Asian style KTV clubs. Plus they are boring anyways. A girl dances for 5 minutes then you wait around for 10-15 minutes for the next one to show up. I don't get why that style is so popular in this country, puts me to sleep.

There's a high end go go now on Burgos that has classy looking Filipinas and Russian girls working there. You might find that place interesting, although its the most expensive bar on the street.

[Winston]

Mr S took me to Pegasus. There we could watch and observe porn star type girls for 100p a drink. That was the cheapest deal we could find. If you went in a private massage room with a girl, that was several thousand pesos starting price. But I'm not sure what that includes.

If I go with you, I'm not gonna do anything expensive though. I'll just watch and keep it affordable. lol

My Korean manager took me to Backstage Makati once. He said it had classy girls and reasonable rates. It was 500p for two hours of unlimited drinks. During that time, you could screen the girls by having them "rotate" and sit next to you for 20 minutes at a time, for free.

It was a refreshing experience. I was amazed at how much better conversationalists these girls were, and classier, compared to the ones in Angeles City. They seemed a lot more intelligent, could ask open questions, and were far better conversationalists and had far more class than the girls on Fields Ave.

He told me that you can get to know the girls and meet them outside of work, and that they would sleep with you for free if they liked you. He told me he did that many times before.

[Mr S]

Mr S took me to Pegasus. There we could watch and observe porn star type girls for 100p a drink. That was the cheapest deal we could find. If you went in a private massage room with a girl, that was several thousand pesos starting price. But I'm not sure what that includes.

If I go with you, I'm not gonna do anything expensive though. I'll just watch and keep it affordable. lol

My Korean manager took me to Backstage Makati once. He said it had classy girls and reasonable rates. It was 500p for two hours of unlimited drinks. During that time, you could screen the girls by having them "rotate" and sit next to you for 20 minutes at a time, for free.

It was a refreshing experience. I was amazed at how much better conversationalists these girls were, compared to the ones in Angeles City. They seemed a lot more intelligent, could ask open questions, and were far better conversationalists and had far more class than the girls on Fields Ave.

We didn't go to Pegasus, that was probably StarDust or the other one's around there. Pegasus is a taxi ride down the street from where we were bar hopping.

[Baron]

As what I read here, almost all of you guys really didn't spend some time in the high class clubs.

Clubs in Roxas Blvd / Quezon Ave are "International KTV". That's how tour guides usually define.

ROXAS: Coast Bay / Bini bini / Dynasty / Asian Network / Malizia / MU - shut down now
Quezon Ave : Queens Champs / Stardust / Heart Beat, Mystic - Shut down now. (Same owner with MU)

these are ok but so so clubs.. where you and the girls can be naughty as you want. Some times if they know you
don't want to spend 6-7k for taking out a girl, then will offer you to bang the girl in a private sofa room and charge you about 2.5k.



Now, Let me talk about the High-Roller clubs. As what I know there are 4 clubs but one is on doubt now.

Near Airport : Airforce One / Quezon Ave : Classmate / Pegasus / Makati : Paraoh
Facility wise, Airforce One and Classmate are the best. (Same Owner Group)

Room consumable 4k+ up
usual price, 1 Local beer = 250P. Lady Hour charge = 10000-1200P/Hr
f***ing in the room = Sofa Room charge 3000P+ girls tip 3000P.
Taking out for the night (ONLY 3 hours) = 10-15k P.

Girls won't go out with the customer unless she really likes him. They choose customers when it comes to bang f**k shit.

Even if you only tabled that girl, later you should give her at least 500P for Tip. (yeah just for talking)..
Otherwise they will don't like you at all.

In these clubs, it's all about MONEY MONEY.. Customers in these clubs are real $$ Foreign businessmen and those top notch rich Filipinos.
During Christmas season, these rich people would come with full trunk of Genuine Louis Vitton Bags etc and throw at the girls for gifts.
I heard that few managers in these clubs got a Brand New Car as a x-mas gift from their customers.
If you don't show them the money, you just just a f***ing clown.

if 2 guys go for the night without f***ing girls, still 10K can be spent in 2hours easily.

However, the best clubs are Classmate and Pegasus.. Airforce One's girls quality is FAR BEHIND quezon avenue.
THere is ONE catch, go early.. around 8 PM and you will see some f***ing Super HOT, Sexy, yet INTELLIGENT look alike girls that you may see in TV.
These girls... I am telling you... These are the ones who look so innocent yet stunning your eyes.. NEVER can compare to those cheap shet girls
in International KTV, Edsa Complex, and Angeles City. Never Compare. Done. However, once they are taken already.. and your are there around 10PM,
you will just feel like you came to a normal bar because all the left over girls are just little pretty girls .. (THey will be the pretty girls if they were working in International KTV)

Money is Money there. I heard one occasion that about 15 Chinese Filipino customers came one night and wasted more than 1M pesos for their crazy party.

It's surely not for Cheap Charlies. I have been to all those places few times back then.. but not anymore... I only visit there when I have guests to show around.
I did f***ed some girls working at those clubs but it is just a memory.

[steve55]

Rock,
Next time you come, maybe I can take you to EDSA Complex in Manila and Burgos St. in Makati. The girls in the bars there are of higher calibre than in AC and taller too. It'd be fun to show you around there. Mr S used to take me there a lot. Maybe he can join us.

Btw, Steve Neese, our Research Specialist, and forum member DarrenFW (both of them are from Texas and have met) are coming to AC next month. You might miss them, but it'd be nice if you could meet them too.

Hey all, yea, it looks like me and my buddy (will be his first AC trip) will arrive in AC either July 22nd or July 29th, it depends on how open the Delta flights look. Ill know by Aug 4th which it will be. We are flying standyby on Buddy passes (my dad's a retired Delta pilot) so looking for the best week to fly for seat availability wise. If there are no open seats, we cant fly, so have to choose carefully. The Japan nucleau crises really helping out a lot , business class looking pretty descently open at this time. After 2 back surgeries in the last 2 years, I cant handle 22 hours in coach. I gotta take my vicoden as it is just to get by descently on some days. Coach seats will be the death of me. LOL. If business seats arent open, I wont fly.

DarrenFW arrives 8/29. Either way, I'm staying in AC for at least a few weeks , long enough to hang with darren and show him the ropes when he arrives. And then Im off to Cebu. DarrenFW has expressed an interest in joining me in Cebu after AC for several weeks, so that may be a lot funner having a travel buddy to hang with. Its funny how the timing worked out with Darren and the coincidence that he lives pretty close to my part of town here in Dallas .

Steve Hoca was supposed to go to the Phils again this summer and he was interested in potentially meeting up if we could but I havent heard back from him as of yet.

Im thinking of heading to peru or one of the S american countries after a month in the phils. I speak spanish pretty descently so Im sure it would be a good trip too.

Hope To see ya Rock if the timing works out. Maybe Winston gonna cook a BiG filipiino style dinner for all us when we get there. What yasay Winsto9n?? Ha ha ha ha

[Winston]

Rock,
Next time you come, maybe I can take you to EDSA Complex in Manila and Burgos St. in Makati. The girls in the bars there are of higher calibre than in AC and taller too. It'd be fun to show you around there. Mr S used to take me there a lot. Maybe he can join us.

Btw, Steve Neese, our Research Specialist, and forum member DarrenFW (both of them are from Texas and have met) are coming to AC next month. You might miss them, but it'd be nice if you could meet them too.

Hey all, yea, it looks like me and my buddy (will be his first AC trip) will arrive in AC either July 22nd or July 29th, it depends on how open the Delta flights look. Ill know by Aug 4th which it will be. We are flying standyby on Buddy passes (my dad's a retired Delta pilot) so looking for the best week to fly for seat availability wise. If there are no open seats, we cant fly, so have to choose carefully. The Japan nucleau crises really helping out a lot , business class looking pretty descently open at this time. After 2 back surgeries in the last 2 years, I cant handle 22 hours in coach. I gotta take my vicoden as it is just to get by descently on some days. Coach seats will be the death of me. LOL. If business seats arent open, I wont fly.

DarrenFW arrives 8/29. Either way, I'm staying in AC for at least a few weeks , long enough to hang with darren and show him the ropes when he arrives. And then Im off to Cebu. DarrenFW has expressed an interest in joining me in Cebu after AC for several weeks, so that may be a lot funner having a travel buddy to hang with. Its funny how the timing worked out with Darren and the coincidence that he lives pretty close to my part of town here in Dallas .

Steve Hoca was supposed to go to the Phils again this summer and he was interested in potentially meeting up if we could but I havent heard back from him as of yet.

Im thinking of heading to peru or one of the S american countries after a month in the phils. I speak spanish pretty descently so Im sure it would be a good trip too.

Hope To see ya Rock if the timing works out. Maybe Winston gonna cook a BiG filipiino style dinner for all us when we get there. What yasay Winsto9n?? Ha ha ha ha

Huh? How will you know by August 4 about whether you will be flying July 22 or 29? lol Do you have a time machine? lol What a funny goof. lol

I think you meant August 22 or 29 though.

Yeah it'll be great to meet you guys. Maybe I can join you in Cebu. What do you plan to do there?

[steve55]

Huh? How will you know by August 4 about whether you will be flying July 22 or 29? lol Do you have a time machine? lol What a funny goof. lol

Winston, I would explain but it is beyond your comprehension young sinsei.

Yea, a goof. You all know what I meant

I want to make Cebu my base of OPS. I figured its the safest and best place to be. I just want to hang out there and enjoy things. Im meeting a girl in Manila on my first day of arrival before heading to AC, so , if she and I match up really well, I may just hang in Manila and see how it pans out. I dont have any absolute set plans. But yea, not a bad idea to join Darren and I in cebu for a while if ya want. At some point, maybe a week after arrival in Cebu, I may end up wanting to go solo due to the freedom to go and do whatever without having to worry about what and when others want to do things. But certainly would be fun for all of us to hang for a while in Cebu.

[DarrenFW]

Yeah it'll be great to meet you guys. Maybe I can join you in Cebu.

Yeah that would be cool.

What do you plan to do there?

I was going to do some online dating and then meet some girls. Maybe some bar hopping and approaching.
Also probably go out and explore the area. Steve's got one hotel that has a Mall and a Superferry within walking distance.

And I'll work on some approaching videos. If they turn out good, I'll post them here. And also chill out and relax.
I told Steve that I would get a separate room and that I will give him some space whenever he needs it. Oh and I'll work on my speed kicks and punches.