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The JFK Assassination Conspiracy and Cover Up

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Re: The JFK Assassination: Conspiracy and Cover Up?

Post by Adama » January 30th, 2018, 2:33 am

What do you guys think of JFK Jr? Did he really die in an accident? I wonder if some celebrities who get too much attention, bordering on harassment, would be tempted to fake their own deaths simply to escape the spotlight and constant, overwhelming attention from the media, paparazzi, and stalkers.

Do you think any celebrities fake their deaths to escape their fame when it becomes too much for them?
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Re: The JFK Assassination: Conspiracy and Cover Up?

Post by snede » January 30th, 2018, 5:48 am

Adama wrote:
January 30th, 2018, 2:33 am
What do you guys think of JFK Jr? Did he really die in an accident? I wonder if some celebrities who get too much attention, bordering on harassment, would be tempted to fake their own deaths simply to escape the spotlight and constant, overwhelming attention from the media, paparazzi, and stalkers.

Do you think any celebrities fake their deaths to escape their fame when it becomes too much for them?
I'm a pilot and I understand the situation he got himself into. Flying at night with no visual references he probably became disoriented when he looked down to "switch to the fullest tank" and wasn't good enough on instruments to recover. It even happens to instrument rated pilots, which JFK, Jr was not.

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Re: The JFK Assassination: Conspiracy and Cover Up?

Post by Winston » January 30th, 2018, 10:20 am

snede wrote:
January 30th, 2018, 5:48 am
Adama wrote:
January 30th, 2018, 2:33 am
What do you guys think of JFK Jr? Did he really die in an accident? I wonder if some celebrities who get too much attention, bordering on harassment, would be tempted to fake their own deaths simply to escape the spotlight and constant, overwhelming attention from the media, paparazzi, and stalkers.

Do you think any celebrities fake their deaths to escape their fame when it becomes too much for them?
I'm a pilot and I understand the situation he got himself into. Flying at night with no visual references he probably became disoriented when he looked down to "switch to the fullest tank" and wasn't good enough on instruments to recover. It even happens to instrument rated pilots, which JFK, Jr was not.
That's not true. You don't know the whole story. JFK Jr was a qualified pilot. His instructors said so. His fuel was switched to the off position. No pilot would do that. That's not an accident. There is a lot of other evidence that his crash was no accident.

Yes Adama, there is plenty of evidence that this was a murder and cover up. See the video below where Jim Marrs explains it all and shows you the evidence and big picture that leads to the inevitable conclusion. Jim Marrs was a top notch researcher on conspiracies. His book "Crossfire" was the basis of Oliver Stone's JFK movie.

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Re: The JFK Assassination: Conspiracy and Cover Up?

Post by Adama » January 30th, 2018, 3:48 pm

snede wrote:
January 30th, 2018, 5:48 am
Adama wrote:
January 30th, 2018, 2:33 am
What do you guys think of JFK Jr? Did he really die in an accident? I wonder if some celebrities who get too much attention, bordering on harassment, would be tempted to fake their own deaths simply to escape the spotlight and constant, overwhelming attention from the media, paparazzi, and stalkers.

Do you think any celebrities fake their deaths to escape their fame when it becomes too much for them?
I'm a pilot and I understand the situation he got himself into. Flying at night with no visual references he probably became disoriented when he looked down to "switch to the fullest tank" and wasn't good enough on instruments to recover. It even happens to instrument rated pilots, which JFK, Jr was not.
Flying at night is so dangerous that if the pilot looks away for one instant that he can literally forget which way is up and which way is down?

That sounds really scary for passenger planes.
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Re: The JFK Assassination: Conspiracy and Cover Up?

Post by Adama » January 30th, 2018, 4:03 pm

snede wrote:
January 30th, 2018, 5:48 am
Adama wrote:
January 30th, 2018, 2:33 am
What do you guys think of JFK Jr? Did he really die in an accident? I wonder if some celebrities who get too much attention, bordering on harassment, would be tempted to fake their own deaths simply to escape the spotlight and constant, overwhelming attention from the media, paparazzi, and stalkers.

Do you think any celebrities fake their deaths to escape their fame when it becomes too much for them?
I'm a pilot and I understand the situation he got himself into. Flying at night with no visual references he probably became disoriented when he looked down to "switch to the fullest tank" and wasn't good enough on instruments to recover. It even happens to instrument rated pilots, which JFK, Jr was not.

Even if it is a plausible story, does that make it true?
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Re: The JFK Assassination: Conspiracy and Cover Up?

Post by snede » January 30th, 2018, 4:18 pm

Adama wrote:
January 30th, 2018, 3:48 pm

Flying at night is so dangerous that if the pilot looks away for one instant that he can literally forget which way is up and which way is down?

That sounds really scary for passenger planes.
Flying at night over the ocean where there are no visual cues can be dangerous for a relatively low time pilot who is not instrument qualified. Flying at night over civilization is easy. It's not so much a matter of "forgetting", it's that your inner ears can tell you one thing while reality is something different. Do a search for "graveyard spiral" for a longer explanation.

JFK, Jr was a "qualified pilot" in that he had passed all the tests for flying a single engine land plane under Visual Flight Rules conditions. Just like passing a driving test, it doesn't mean you are qualified for all the conditions you might encounter.

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Re: The JFK Assassination: Conspiracy and Cover Up?

Post by Winston » January 30th, 2018, 4:25 pm

Adama wrote:
January 30th, 2018, 3:48 pm
snede wrote:
January 30th, 2018, 5:48 am
Adama wrote:
January 30th, 2018, 2:33 am
What do you guys think of JFK Jr? Did he really die in an accident? I wonder if some celebrities who get too much attention, bordering on harassment, would be tempted to fake their own deaths simply to escape the spotlight and constant, overwhelming attention from the media, paparazzi, and stalkers.

Do you think any celebrities fake their deaths to escape their fame when it becomes too much for them?
I'm a pilot and I understand the situation he got himself into. Flying at night with no visual references he probably became disoriented when he looked down to "switch to the fullest tank" and wasn't good enough on instruments to recover. It even happens to instrument rated pilots, which JFK, Jr was not.
Flying at night is so dangerous that if the pilot looks away for one instant that he can literally forget which way is up and which way is down?

That sounds really scary for passenger planes.

Even if it is a plausible story, does that make it true?
What are you talking about? Anyone can feel which way is down and up. lol. Can't you? Even on a plane, you can feel which way is down and up. What are you talking about? lol. It's not like you are in outer space where you can't feel the difference between down and up. What you smoking man? lol

Of course pilots can fly safely during night time if they look at their instruments. They do not use the naked eye to fly like in video games. They trust the instruments. Flying is safe if you know what you're doing.

No the official story is not plausible. Not in this case. It's just a cover story. The data does not fit it. There is a lot of evidence that JFK JR was murdered and that his plane was sabotaged. Did you watch the video above where Jim Marrs explains it all and makes a convincing case? It tells you all you need to know. The evidence clearly points to sabotage. It's not a speculative theory or wild speculation. The data points to it and some of the data cannot be explained any other way. The sabotage theory is the only one that fits all the data.
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Re: The JFK Assassination Conspiracy and Cover Up

Post by Winston » June 20th, 2018, 1:36 am

Check this out. It's now been proven that Lee Harvey Oswald's last attempted phone call before his assassination was to a US intelligence officer in North Carolina named John Hurt. However, the agency refused to allow the call to go through. Probably Oswald was going to ask, "What happened to the plan? Why have I been set up as the patsy? What did you guys do?"

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Just hours before his death, Lee Harvey Oswald tried to call Raleigh, North Carolina from the Dallas jail on the evening of Nov. 23, 1963. For years, this significant information was ignored by assassination investigators and concealed from the public. Surprise guest speaker and JFK Assassination expert the late Jim Marrs joins Dr. Proctor on stage at 58:00.

In the early 1980s, independent researcher Dr. Grover Proctor broke new ground on Oswald’s attempted call. Because of Dr. Proctor’s work, Oswald's attempt to reach former U.S. Intelligence officer John Hurt has become known as “The Raleigh Call.”



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Re: The JFK Assassination Conspiracy and Cover Up

Post by gsjackson » June 20th, 2018, 6:25 am

There have been very good discussions lately about the Kennedy assassination over at the Unz Review, which has a great collection of columnists and some of the most intelligent commenters you'll find. I've become convinced that Israel did it in conjunction with elements of the CIA, LBJ fully cognizant at least of the whole business. Among many motives, the principal ones, I believe, were Kennedy's intention to end Israel's nuclear weapons program, and make the Israel lobby register as a foreign agent.

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Re: The JFK Assassination Conspiracy and Cover Up

Post by Winston » July 21st, 2018, 11:55 pm

Miles Mathis wrote this interesting and unusual paper where he explains the anomalies and evidence that JFK's assassination was hoaxed and staged. What do you think?

http://mileswmathis.com/barindex2.pdf
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Re: The JFK Assassination Conspiracy and Cover Up

Post by Moretorque » July 22nd, 2018, 12:03 am

Winston this is all nonsense, I don't know how you go on and on and on. Their are multiple reasons they killed him but the major one was he had money printed up bypassing the FED. You can find the bills on line........
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