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JFK Assassination Conspiracy - Proven and Well-Documented

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Re: JFK Assassination Conspiracy - Proven and Well-Documente

Postby Winston » Thu Jun 23, 2016 1:10 am

gsjackson wrote:"Optimism"... "about the world state of affairs?" Winston, please.

The CIA used to be a bunch of WASP swells from Yale, who one could easily see viewing themselves as masters of the universe. Now the organization seems to have a very Zionist tint. The only two students I've had who interviewed with the Company were Jewish boys from New York who were ardently pro-Israel. Have two world-domination agendas met in a happy (demonic) marriage? In any case, I'm sure I would be somewhat receptive to what this author is selling.

Speaking of the Stone movie, I met Clay Shaw (the only person tried for Kennedy's murder -- by Garrison) at my grandfather's funeral in 1973. He was a good friend of the family -- my grandfather gave him his first job --- none of whom could imagine him being involved with the assassination. He was a mo, but nothing like the nancy-boy Tommy Lee Jones played him as.


Did you know about Colonel Fletcher Prouty? Have you listened to his interviews? They are very disturbing.

How are you connected to Clay Shaw? Did you know it was proven that he worked for the CIA? So even if he was a "good man", he still has to follow orders. He was allegedly part of the conspiracy to maneuver Oswald as a patsy, not one of the shooters.

Did you see the James Files interview above? What did you think? Does he seem genuine or is he making it all up?

Have you met Jim Garrison? He seems like a really good, honest, genuine man. And a courageous hero too. Not many people would knowingly be willing to have their career ruined for the truth.
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Re: JFK Assassination Conspiracy - Proven and Well-Documente

Postby gsjackson » Thu Jun 23, 2016 5:48 pm

As I said, Shaw was a friend of my father's family in New Orleans. My grandfather gave him his first job, my father knew him when they were younger, and my uncle and his wife were good friends with him until he died. Oddly, they all called him by his middle name -- Laverne -- which was apparently his preference, perhaps having something to do with his persona in the homosexual demimonde. They regarded him as brilliant.

A few years ago a guy who was writing a self-published biography of Shaw unearthed the Jackson family connection and dug me up. He used a few of the things I passed along in the book. He didn't believe that Shaw was a full-time employee of the CIA, but that they debriefed him when he returned from numerous travels abroad. He thought the connection to the Kennedy assassination was nonsense. The guy seemed to be doing exhaustive research, but I can't conclude anything else about his credibility.

I never met Garrison, though he dated the daughter of some friends in the '70s. I always assumed he was a crackpot owing to the Shaw prosecution, but would be interested in knowing more about him and his theories, especially since at this point I'm ready to believe almost anything about the CIA, a diabolical organization long overdue for extinction.
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Postby Taco » Fri Jun 24, 2016 12:13 am

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Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value – zero – Voltaire

We know that the next economic crash (every 7 years) is coming soon, because these crashes are deliberately timed to coincide with the U.S. presidential cycle. – Jeff Nielson
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Postby Moretorque » Fri Jun 24, 2016 1:26 am

" Try " to enslave the entire planet, pick your poison.

The con artist running this financial con game or all the idiots who cannot figure out what it all means!

Either way we are FU CKED..........
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Re: JFK Assassination Conspiracy - Proven and Well-Documente

Postby Winston » Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:05 pm

gsjackson wrote:As I said, Shaw was a friend of my father's family in New Orleans. My grandfather gave him his first job, my father knew him when they were younger, and my uncle and his wife were good friends with him until he died. Oddly, they all called him by his middle name -- Laverne -- which was apparently his preference, perhaps having something to do with his persona in the homosexual demimonde. They regarded him as brilliant.

A few years ago a guy who was writing a self-published biography of Shaw unearthed the Jackson family connection and dug me up. He used a few of the things I passed along in the book. He didn't believe that Shaw was a full-time employee of the CIA, but that they debriefed him when he returned from numerous travels abroad. He thought the connection to the Kennedy assassination was nonsense. The guy seemed to be doing exhaustive research, but I can't conclude anything else about his credibility.

I never met Garrison, though he dated the daughter of some friends in the '70s. I always assumed he was a crackpot owing to the Shaw prosecution, but would be interested in knowing more about him and his theories, especially since at this point I'm ready to believe almost anything about the CIA, a diabolical organization long overdue for extinction.


But one of the CIA directors, maybe Richard Helms, testified under oath that Clay Shaw worked for the CIA remember? That was made public long ago in the 1970's. Google it. Maybe Shaw worked for the CIA part time or was just a bench warmer.

Clay Shaw also went by another name Clay Bertrand, which he denied but was later proven, so he got convicted of perjury. Did you know that? Shaw was convicted of perjury, but the court didn't allow Garrison to start another trial for that.

How did Garrison date the daughter of some of your friends? Wasn't he married? Or divorced by then?

How did your family know Clary Shaw? Does your family have any connections with US intelligence too? Does your family know Guy Bannister or David Ferrie too?

How can you know little about Garrison? Have you read his books or listened to the Garrison tapes? It is available online now. Here is the playlist for the Garrison tapes. It explains his case and his trial, which was a strong one, but several of his witnesses mysteriously died before they could be brought to testify.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL72H2XFA5y3pAC9IoraaEl_2-3gbyzv9o

Also listen to Jim Garrison's response to NBC after their did a hit piece on him. Listen to what he tells the public. Doesn't he look as credible as can be? Totally down to earth and honest too. His points are logical, heroic and genuine. Who makes more sense, Garrison or the mainstream media?

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Re: JFK Assassination Conspiracy - Proven and Well-Documente

Postby Winston » Wed Jul 27, 2016 8:50 pm

Check out this interview with Roger Stone, a political insider for 40 years who worked for Richard Nixon, and author of the book "The Man Who Killed Kennedy: The Case Against LBJ,". The interview is by Tyrel Ventura, the son of Jesse Ventura, on the show Buzzsaw. Roger Stone gives a compelling case for why Lyndon Johnson was the lynch pin between the groups that wanted to get rid of JFK, and why he had to be in on it in order for the cover up to work. He explains why LBJ had the means, motive and opportunity to carry out the crime and cover it up. He explains the multiple reasons and motives that LBJ had that make sense and fit the evidence.

It's a big piece of the puzzle solved in the JFK assassination. A lot of this was known in the late 1960's but the US media refused to give publicity to it of course, except in the Jim Garrison trial. Many of LBJ's associates, including his attorney Barr McClellan, mistress Madeline Duncan Brown (whom he has a son with) and his personal enemies in Texas such as wheeler dealer Billy Sol Estes, all testify that LBJ was involved in the JFK assassination plot, based on what they heard and seen. Also if you look at photos of Johnson in the limo behind JFK just before the first shot came out, you can see that LBJ was already ducking before the first shot rang out, which means he knew what was coming.

Roger Stone also explains why the Warren Commission agreed to cover up the crime and lie to everyone with the lone nut story. Their motive came from LBJ who told them that the Russians killed JFK and that if they didnt cover this up then world war 3 would begin. So they thought they saving the world with this cover up.


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Re: JFK Assassination Conspiracy - Proven and Well-Documente

Postby Moretorque » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:48 am

The biggest thing in this whole gig was JFK signing an executive order to have America start coining it's own money again Mr. Wu!

LBJ is just a tool for the bankers, remember Mr. Wu the whole system is designed to protect their counterfeiting operation as they lay claim to the entire earth by legal counterfeit medium of exchange.............

Good day Mr. Wu.
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Re: JFK Assassination Conspiracy - Proven and Well-Documente

Postby Winston » Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:37 pm

Moretorque wrote:The biggest thing in this whole gig was JFK signing an executive order to have America start coining it's own money again Mr. Wu!

LBJ is just a tool for the bankers, remember Mr. Wu the whole system is designed to protect their counterfeiting operation as they lay claim to the entire earth by legal counterfeit medium of exchange.............

Good day Mr. Wu.


If you are referring to executive order 11110, well i dont see any reference or source for that outside of conspiracy websites. Can you find an official government source for that?

Even if its true, the above factors that roger stone laid out above are just as important. Listen to him if you want to know all that was at stake. You seem obsessed with central bankers.
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Re: JFK Assassination Conspiracy - Proven and Well-Documente

Postby Moretorque » Thu Jul 28, 2016 5:05 pm

Winston wrote:
Moretorque wrote:The biggest thing in this whole gig was JFK signing an executive order to have America start coining it's own money again Mr. Wu!

LBJ is just a tool for the bankers, remember Mr. Wu the whole system is designed to protect their counterfeiting operation as they lay claim to the entire earth by legal counterfeit medium of exchange.............

Good day Mr. Wu.


If you are referring to executive order 11110, well i dont see any reference or source for that outside of conspiracy websites. Can you find an official government source for that?

Even if its true, the above factors that roger stone laid out above are just as important. Listen to him if you want to know all that was at stake. You seem obsessed with central bankers.


He had United States silver certificate bills printed up with no mention of the Federal Reserve on them anywhere in print and some are in circulation from my reading and are quite sought after for collectability, I have seen them posted on the net.

You can read the EXE order and it was real, there was no major reference in the order to him taking control back from the CITI as far as issuing the currency but it is obvious what he was up to if the issued bills are real. Supposedly the first thing LBJ did when he took office was sign an order to have the bills shelved from circulation.........

Mr. Wu the way the system works is our rulers have a problem with somebody trying to break the treaties governing the system so they order a hit and offer the best poised individuals to do the job riches and power to move up the pyramid and generally they say OK who do you want me to take out. It's done in a way to where you really cannot figure out who is giving the orders and what the true end motives really are, PROTECT THE PRINTING PRESS!

This is going on everyday even today world wide, unbacked currencies are the money supply of fascist period.
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Postby Winston » Sat Aug 20, 2016 8:20 am

A good in-depth documentary about the murder and cover up of JFK Jr. It implicates George Bush Sr. and his son George W Bush. It also turns out that in his magazine George, JFK Jr allowed Oliver Stone to publish an article about the JFK Assassination conspiracy and cover up, indicating that JFK Jr himself believed it too, so it was likely that he was going to go after his father's killers.

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