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I am reading an interesting book "Global Capitalism: It's Fall and Rise in the Twentieth Century" by Jeffry A. Frieden.
His description of the role of Lord Nathan Rothschild is particularly revealing.
"Rothschild was a powerful member of the City of London and the world's financial community and was passionately involved in politics".
The book goes on to explain how Rothchild's number one goal of maintaining his financial empire was to push the gold standard onto the United States.
"Rothschild pushed relentlessly to convince the United States to join the gold standard club. The measure was controverial, and Congress defeated many attempts to get the county on gold. "
Despite the intense opposition of Congress, "President Grant eventually agreed and prevailed on a lame-duck Congress to approve the country's adoption of the gold standard".
It goes on to describe the populist movement that arose in the US in the 1890s opposing gold.
They were defeated with the help of Rothschild:
"A rising star financier, J.P. Morgan, formed a syndicate to provide the Treasury with all the gold it needed for the year and a half, until the presidential election. When the gold opponents were defeated in 1896, the dollar stabilized but the U.S. currency almost certainly could not have been defended without Rothschild's support".
Have you ever noticed that most of the conspiracy theorists are gold bugs? Have you noticed that Ron Paul wants up back on a gold standard?
Are conspiracy theorists agents for the Rothschilds?
Is Ron Paul an agent of the Rothschilds?
Anything is possible, but I tend to doubt it. But, if not gold, then fiat? What are the other options? Was it fiat before Grant adopted the gold standard?
Supporters of alternative monetary systems promoted silver in the 1890s and before that there were the Greenbacks issued by the US government without any kickback to a bank controlled federal reserve.
"Many important countries rotated on and off gold, only after prices began rising in 1896 did membership in the system become nearly universal. The costs of being on gold could be substantial. A government committed to a gold backed currency could not use monetary policies, such as devaluing or lowering interest rates, to deal with domestic economic difficulties. The rules of the gold standard game - free convertibility of currency into gold, allowing domestic prices and wages to move freely up and down to maintain the gold values of the currency - required governments to give up active monetary policy, even when such a policy was justified by local conditions."
You need to watch the "Money Masters" and "The Secret of Oz" to realize that a gold standard would do nothing to solve the economic problems in our lifetime.
Bill Still says Ron Paul WRONG on Gold Standard on Keiser Report
The Money Masters
The Secret of Oz
Who the hell want's to dig in the dirt to back your money, what about countries who have no access to gold on their land? The PTB know all this, Bill Still cannot seem to figure out fiat currencies are the money supply of fascist. Lincoln printed Green Backs to go to war.
Money can be backed by anything, it is when parties agree on a honest money system to facilitate trade for the people then we will have a winner.
We are just being taken advantage of because we are to stupid to understand how to make a honest economy for the masses.
Time to Hide!
There is nothing in principle wrong with fiat currency. It can function perfectly well as a medium of exchange. The problem at the moment is that the fiat currency is based on debt created by the banksters, which aside from allowing them to rob us blind, creates all manner of problems. If the govt paid for services and welfare benefits out of debt-free money they created, that would potentially work fine. Another option would be demurrage currency, such as chits for stored grain or labor, as has worked successfully in the past.
As for the gold standard, that is f***ing stupid. If physical gold were required to be handed over, the global economy would collapse immediately. If gold formed the tiny reserve fraction of the currency, as govt securities do now, then the situation would be no different in practice or principle from what we have now, other than the added inconvenience of lugging gold around. People advocating the gold standard are either idiots or shills for the banksters.
Any currency is subject to abuse but fiat currency backed by no reference to anything real is so subject to fraud it is ridiculous. Sure you can back it with gold if parties agree that that is what they want to do, the stupidity of the masses is where the real problem lies.
A country can back it with trade in anything as long as parties agree and you can change the agreement's in HONEST TRADE!
Let's say somebody like Mali has gold mines and you need gold for something and you grow agriculture good's they want, you just make trade agreement's with them and back the currencies in real trade.
Japan has no natural resources so you trade for their labor with them for finished product's they build for things they want from you, having natural resources helps alot.
There is a site called mathematically perfected economy and it explains how to make a fiat currency work by cutting the usurer out but that is not the problem with fiat money, the problem is fascists who do not want to work and like to print infinite amounts of money and rule, then call it "communism " and then proclaim it is for the good of the communal society that we kill everybody in order to maintain our power because we control unlimited purchasing tickets over the economy so lets use it to go to war so we can rule the world and steal everything in it by not working for it! SOUND FAMILIAR?
It is the money supply of dictator's, just look at what is going on in the world right now with it, on average fiat currencies last 27 years before they self destruct because of the fraud of the people controlling them and then beating their civilization's into the ground with them.
Time to Hide!
ron paul is definitely an agent of the ruling class elite, as ar alex jones, jesse ventura, charlie sheen, and the rest of them, including the guys who made loose change. the better question is, who isnt a disinfo agent? theres so many of them out there. it's big business these days to run psyops. everyones getting in on it. i ran into a few of them on skype back in 2007, they'd talk conspiracy, and then embed false information, and try to confuse you