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Moretorque wrote:Never mess with a Droid. I will research it further, thanks.

What was Winston saying about having the Hubble point at the moon to show the equipment left but for some reason they would not do it ? The Hubble never focused on the moon and if it would have it could easily show the equipment correct ?

From what i understand, large telescopes, especially hubble, are not so much about magnification, but rather light gathering to see dim stuff with clarity.

I bought an 8"x5' telescope a few years back and learned about this. I could see the moon real nice and got to see mars as a tiny disc.

But for example, the Andromeda galaxy is supposedly the size of the moon on the sky, but it's so dim you can't easily see it with your bare eyes. The telescope would gather light and let you see it, without a high-magnification lens. Unfortunately I never got to spend time seeing Andromeda

As far as the moon landing equipment, i think it's just too far
The moon itself, being so large, is only 1 degree in your field of vision. Even though it seems big.

Now for the equipment, assuming say a piece 20 meters across, you have:
ArcTan of (20 meters / 300.000.000 meters) = 3.8x 10^-6 degrees, or four one-millionths of a degree

It would be great to see all the stuff, but no scope is capable of anywhere near the magnification needed to make such piece discernible to the eye

Hubble resolves to within 0.05 arcsecs.
http://hubblesite.org/the_telescope/nut ... res101.php
It would have to be more than ten times as powerful.

Hey I'm not saying the whole thing wasn't a hoax, I'm like 80% real / 20% hoax on this. But like you say, one has to separate the chaff from the grain.

One question I have is, how is this hoax theory reconciled with the one that says the astronauts saw flying saucers during the flight and on the moon, and that NASA is covering it up?? No flame here, actually curious about it.

I just watched "Apollo 13: The Untold Story".



This is a documentary with footage from the time. What is striking is how human the people were, how different from the two-legged beasts who infest America today. The Americans of that time were capable virtually anything. Americans today screw up virtually everything they do.

fschmidt wrote:I just watched "Apollo 13: The Untold Story".



This is a documentary with footage from the time. What is striking is how human the people were, how different from the two-legged beasts who infest America today. The Americans of that time were capable virtually anything. Americans today screw up virtually everything they do.

America does not exist anymore, America had to be destroyed by the ruling elite because all the brains had come here because people had rights over the state plus we stole a bunch of land here and it was cheap and people had property rights as well but no longer. I see most Americans as just being to dumb to figure out what happened and the fact the people are supposed to be coining their own money by the documents left by the founders.

Under no circumstance do the ruling elite want people to understand what really happened here so they can blame the republic as the problem when in reality the republic was hijacked long ago by the foreign credit monopoly.

droid wrote:One question I have is, how is this hoax theory reconciled with the one that says the astronauts saw flying saucers during the flight and on the moon, and that NASA is covering it up?? No flame here, actually curious about it.

I don't believe anything put out by these people, it started with the staging of the Martian invasion in the 30's with War of the Worlds. Droid these people lie about everything to get their way and laugh at how stupid we are.

They write it on paper with a pen, then film it and call it history. Go see the speech where Neil Armstrong said being a Astronaut was about being a parrot.

You got me on the camera, stuck my foot in my mouth. I know I can find the problems with the Hasselblad give me a little time. You needed a whole new camera and one was never built from the ground up or proper film developed for this adventure.

Ghost wrote:

Moretorque wrote:Never mess with a Droid. I will research it further, thanks.

What was Winston saying about having the Hubble point at the moon to show the equipment left but for some reason they would not do it ? The Hubble never focused on the moon and if it would have it could easily show the equipment correct ?

Hubble is meant for taking photos of very distant and vast things in the universe. I'm guessing there would be resolution problems trying to photo tiny, man-made equipment on the moon. Probably could find it and "see" it with Hubble, but it would probably look like a splotch.

Regardless, it's clear that you would just say it was faked. You never believe photographic evidence anyway.

My step father is a Astrophysicist who worked for NASA and has also developed optics for them but not on Hubble however, he said it has a 8 FT mirror and should be able to see the moon debris with no problem.

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Ghost wrote:

Moretorque wrote: My step father is a Astrophysicist who worked for NASA and has also developed optics for them but not on Hubble however, he said it has a 8 FT mirror and should be able to see the moon debris with no problem.

Doesn't mean he's right; experts disagree on things all the time.

So, I'm really not getting this. It just doesn't make sense.

You think that the moon landing was hoaxed; therefore, all the photos and videos of it are fake.

So they faked all that stuff, but they couldn't fake photos of the leftover modules on the moon.

Which doesn't make any sense. And like I said, you already disbelieve all photographic and video evidence, so it wouldn't make a difference. I'm starting to think NASA could take you to the moon yourself and you still wouldn't believe it.

No the problem is NASA never focused the Hubble on the moon to try and show the moon expedition leftovers should have been a easy thing to do, Winston had some info on this. Wish he would chime in here.

The Apollo 11 press conference is the nail in the coffin for me period! No way did they go to the moon on that mission. Like I said my cousin meet Neil and he had nothing to say about going to the moon. I have watched his interviews and I do not believe he ever went there.

God damn it, did anyone read what i posted? Hubble only resolves to 0.05 arc seconds, not enough to see the leftovers at that distance.

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I am reading up on the Apollo moon missions now, there are so many problems with the official version on all fronts from the Lunar Module side of things. The Saturn 5 was real but the tip of the rocket was a prop.

I will study this in more detail but there is way more scientific evidence suggesting they did not go rather than they did.

Take like the lunar module lifting off the moon, no visible rocket exhaust plum but as stated I will look further.

Thanks for all the detailed information Droid.

droid wrote:One question I have is, how is this hoax theory reconciled with the one that says the astronauts saw flying saucers during the flight and on the moon, and that NASA is covering it up?? No flame here, actually curious about it.

It's just a story that takes people further down the rabbit hole. If you can get the esteemed astronauts to saw they say UFOs, well that just means that the people who trust them will start to believe that aliens are real. It also furthers their other lies about the nature of our "solar system," with other planets, outer space, and a spherical earth being real.

Now everyone truly believes that there are billions of galaxies out there, with trillions of stars, and at least one of them will have intelligent life. These people watched too much Sci Fi, like the Contact movie with that closeted lesbo Jodie Foster.

Do you believe there is a feminist agenda in TV and the movies? We aren't just lied to with feminism. They have orchestrated a lie about every aspect of our reality in order to turn black into white and black into white. Consider everything you've learned about life, the opposite of what we are told is the truth. They tell us lies only to distract us from the true nature of reality. They do this because they are led by demons in their secret societies, they hate God (probably just the same as some who are reading this), and they have an overwhelming desire for wealth by any means, along with the infinite desire for fame, with respect and adoration from millions of people for being so smart.

The telescopes are just artists conceptions and photoshop. WInston also knows this. It is quite easy to tell that they do this, because they even admit it when they show earth photos. If they can't take a real photo of the earth (instead using "composites" of many images), how then can the Hubble see into deep space? It can't. It is just another lie to suck billions of dollars from the public, while they serve their lord of demons in deceiving the nations.