I probably have years ago. Maybe you could link to something.HouseMD wrote:This is easy to understand if you've taken calculus-based physics, but virtually impossible to explain if you haven't.Cornfed wrote:Another issue: It is said that we don't feel the motion of the earth because it is travelling at a constant speed. But if it is spinning, surely the velocity is constantly changing. So why don't we feel this, like you would in a car turning a corner?
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Jesus, just Google rotational kinematics and dynamics. Applied to a vacuum with gravity, it all is pretty simple.Cornfed wrote:I probably have years ago. Maybe you could link to something.HouseMD wrote:This is easy to understand if you've taken calculus-based physics, but virtually impossible to explain if you haven't.Cornfed wrote:Another issue: It is said that we don't feel the motion of the earth because it is travelling at a constant speed. But if it is spinning, surely the velocity is constantly changing. So why don't we feel this, like you would in a car turning a corner?
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Re: The Earth is FLAT and Motionless, Not A Spinning Globe!
The simple non-math explanation is that the gravity is stronger than the centrifugal force, so what we actually feel is gravity minus centrifugal force.Cornfed wrote:Another issue: It is said that we don't feel the motion of the earth because it is travelling at a constant speed. But if it is spinning, surely the velocity is constantly changing. So why don't we feel this, like you would in a car turning a corner?
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You would think you would still feel some sort of force on your body due to the change in velocity.fschmidt wrote:The simple non-math explanation is that the gravity is stronger than the centrifugal force, so what we actually feel is gravity minus centrifugal force.Cornfed wrote:Another issue: It is said that we don't feel the motion of the earth because it is travelling at a constant speed. But if it is spinning, surely the velocity is constantly changing. So why don't we feel this, like you would in a car turning a corner?
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Are you asking the guys in this thread for a modicum of due diligence? Dream on.HouseMD wrote:Jesus, just Google rotational kinematics and dynamics. Applied to a vacuum with gravity, it all is pretty simple.
And sorry to break it to you but their browsers are broken, must be some kind of virus, they click and click and always get redirected to Eric Dupe-bay's out-of-the-arse "200 proofs for the flat earth", nothing else. That's why all other evidence just doesn't exist.
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1)Too much of one thing defeats the purpose.
2)Everybody is full of it. What's your hypocrisy?
2)Everybody is full of it. What's your hypocrisy?
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I don't know what you're trying to accomplish but I don't buy the unfunny sketch for a second..gsjackson wrote: Haven't got arguments? Bring the insults and poses of superiority, hold the specifics. It's a time-honored technique of sophistry. But why don't you guys just take it to some other thread. You bring nothing here. Nothing. Let's see - there's some point about navigation being hard on a flat earth map, a bewildering unexplained diagram, an 18th century experiment that tries to prove gravity, and then there's a lot of attitude. Go compare your bullshit to Dubay's 200 proofs of a flat earth, all of them made in terms of practical, applied science, not religious dogma. Using experiments, not theory.
You haven't answered a single question raised by FEers. Not one. You'll find this thread littered with such questions, but not one of them answered. You'd think the "everybody knows..." position would be a lot easier to defend, but you really aren't up to it. I know, it would take time. So don't bother. Take your simple, child-like faith in the standard story and your snark somewhere else. We're interested in exploring the issue here, not responding to poseurs.
"exploring the issue here"
Is that what they now call hand-waving, ignoring all presented arguments and evidence, and not carrying a minimum of due diligence?
1)Too much of one thing defeats the purpose.
2)Everybody is full of it. What's your hypocrisy?
2)Everybody is full of it. What's your hypocrisy?
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Ah, he is not asking for due diligence. He is asking for a year or two of study before I can judge the answer to a simple question.droid wrote:Are you asking the guys in this thread for a modicum of due diligence? Dream on.HouseMD wrote:Jesus, just Google rotational kinematics and dynamics. Applied to a vacuum with gravity, it all is pretty simple.
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I get the vibe of what you're saying. You're going 1000mph one way and later 1000mph the other way.Cornfed wrote:You would think you would still feel some sort of force on your body due to the change in velocity.fschmidt wrote:The simple non-math explanation is that the gravity is stronger than the centrifugal force, so what we actually feel is gravity minus centrifugal force.Cornfed wrote:Another issue: It is said that we don't feel the motion of the earth because it is travelling at a constant speed. But if it is spinning, surely the velocity is constantly changing. So why don't we feel this, like you would in a car turning a corner?
But remember it takes a full 12 hours (about 0.05 mph per second). And also you are attached to a cord (gravity), this aligns this acceleration to the same vertical axis that you're your weight exerts on, it's not a "'sideways" force.
So basically you weigh like 1% less at the equator. And since this force summation (gravity - centrifugal) is constant for your geographical location, you don't "feel" a change through the day.
1)Too much of one thing defeats the purpose.
2)Everybody is full of it. What's your hypocrisy?
2)Everybody is full of it. What's your hypocrisy?
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LOL. This flat earth meme makes a good point. Any explanation? How can you see Mercury and Venus at night if they should be on the side facing the Sun? LOL
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I really dont have the time to expose 200 spurious claims, so if you pick a few favorites I would be glad to dispatch them promptly. Mr Dubay is far far away from practical applied science.gsjackson wrote:Haven't got arguments? Bring the insults and poses of superiority, hold the specifics. It's a time-honored technique of sophistry. But why don't you guys just take it to some other thread. You bring nothing here. Nothing. Let's see - there's some point about navigation being hard on a flat earth map, a bewildering unexplained diagram, an 18th century experiment that tries to prove gravity, and then there's a lot of attitude. Go compare your bullshit to Dubay's 200 proofs of a flat earth, all of them made in terms of practical, applied science, not religious dogma. Using experiments, not theory.droid wrote:Don't you see it's all a routine? He is smarter than that. If he is not trolling just for laughs, he is conducting some kind of societal study.OutWest wrote: Surely you are kidding. You say you are a Mensa member and you do not have the slightest clue as to the difference between a jet and a rocket and why jets will not just "Fly off into space" as you posit, no matter what?
You waste your time with further explanations when the guy won't even bother googling the meaning of the most basic terms. They will simply get ignored.
@Adama
You are a simpleton of the highest denomination, as some others have already pointed out. But you also continue to go out of your way to lie through your theet and put words in my mouth, when I've already schooled you and exposed you multiple times.
I have to keep reminding you how idiotic it is that you insist on trying to pass your religious dogma as [pseudo]scientific fact, when faith by definition is about not having proof. But I don't expect you to try and reconcile that thought any time soon.
Don't you have bible verses to go and memorize, as per your own admission?
You haven't answered a single question raised by FEers. Not one. You'll find this thread littered with such questions, but not one of them answered. You'd think the "everybody knows..." position would be a lot easier to defend, but you really aren't up to it. I know, it would take time. So don't bother. Take your simple, child-like faith in the standard story and your snark somewhere else. We're interested in exploring the issue here, not responding to poseurs.
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Interesting. The philosopher Heraclides noticed this in 400 BC and used in to propose the heliocentric model. He also believed the earth rotates.Winston wrote:LOL. This flat earth meme makes a good point. Any explanation? How can you see Mercury and Venus at night if they should be on the side facing the Sun? LOL
Adama will like this one. LOL
"According to Chalcidius (or Calcidius), a Christian who translated the Timaeus from Greek to Latin in the fourth century, Heraclides also proposed that since Mercury and Venus are never seen far in the sky from the Sun, they revolve about the Sun rather than about the Earth, thus removing another bit of fine-tuning from the schemes of Eudoxus, Callippus, and Aristotle: the artificial coordination of the revolutions of the second spheres of the Sun and inner planets."
Steven Weinberg. To Explain the World: The Discovery of Modern Science (Kindle Locations 1364-1367). HarperCollins Publishers. Kindle Edition.
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More hilarious Flat Earth memes. LOL
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Here is Adama's model of the world. LOL
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Isn't the Jewish earth supported by four pillars?
By the way, the Greeks in 400 BC knew that the sun was larger than the earth and that is was far away. They estimated the sun at about 200,000 miles from the earth. This was way off. But they did the correct calculations. They were only off because they didn't have sensitive enough instruments to make the measurements. The important thing is that the Greeks knew that there was a vast space above them.
By the way, the Greeks in 400 BC knew that the sun was larger than the earth and that is was far away. They estimated the sun at about 200,000 miles from the earth. This was way off. But they did the correct calculations. They were only off because they didn't have sensitive enough instruments to make the measurements. The important thing is that the Greeks knew that there was a vast space above them.
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Here are some anti-Flat Earth memes now that refute the Flat Earth model. LOL
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