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Secret Societies and Freemasons: What are they about?

Postby Winston » Fri Nov 27, 2015 10:15 pm

I saw some documentaries on the Freemasons from the History Channel and others. They ponder whether the Masons are just a harmless boys club doing public charities, or a nefarious secret society bent on world domination. At the end, most of the History Channel documentaries side with the Freemasons, claiming that they are just what they claim to be, a harmless boys club that does charity and seeks self-improvement. How convenient. Yeah right.

In one of them called "Secrets of the Freemasons", the History Channel even revealed a lot of damaging info on the Masons, only to reverse it all in the end, as if they were setting you up as a practical joke. Totally stupid. In that one, they did not even explain away the documented Masonic murders, such as the infamous one in 1826 where they murdered William Morgan for exposing their secrets and violating his Masonic oath. That one was well documented and even confessed to, and set the American public against the Masons for a while. Yet all the History Channel said was that the murder was done by renegades and not the Masons, case closed. Yeah right.

You can see these documentaries for yourself here. Some of them are pretty exciting.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=freemason+documentary

I've never understood how the Freemasons can claim that they are just a "boys club" that is only about self-improvement and doing charity, when they have secret rituals and occult symbolism and take oaths upon initiation where they swear upon penalty of death that they will not reveal the secrets of Masonry. It doesn't make sense. Why would anyone join a secret society just to do charity and improve themselves? That cover story is an insult to the intelligence. So why would educated men, like Momopi on this forum, believe it just because they say so? One can do charity and self-improvement without joining any secret society. Obviously, people join to feel special and get professional connections for their career and get access into higher levels of power. Furthermore, there are so many ex-Freemason whistleblowers, so logic would say that "where there's smoke, there's fire."
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Re: Freemasons: What are they about? What do they do?

Postby Winston » Fri Nov 27, 2015 10:22 pm

Is this really what Freemasons are taught about Jesus when they are initiated into the order?

http://www.rense.com/general28/brit.htm

"Perhaps only several thousand people in all Britain and Israel are aware that British Freemasonry and Royalty are totally convinced that Jesus was King Of Britain and was stoned to death in London, at Ludgate, the location of St. Paul's Cathedral. This conviction is based on a history many are going to find insulting. Nonetheless, it is vital to understand the thinking that has led to the 20th century slaughter of the Jews and the current attempt to annihilate Israel.

Initiates into the deepest secrets of British Freemasonry are taught that Jesus was born with an identical twin, Judas Thomas. Their mother Mariamne was the granddaughter of King Herod. She was raped by a Roman soldier named Tiberius Julias Abdes Pathera. In his time, Jesus was known as Yeshua Ben Panthera.

The twins had very different personalities. Judas Thomas was violent and irresponsible. He led a revolt of Galileans against the Romans. The Galileans were, in fact, from Gaul, a captured Celtic Roman province with a highly hostile population. Judas Thomas took his revolt to Rome and in his 33rd year was ordered crucified by Pontius Pilate. However, invoking royal Herodian privileges and a large bribe, his uncle Joseph of Arimathea persuaded Pontius to replace Judas Thomas on the cross with another victim. Judas Thomas was sold into slavery and died much later in India.

Jesus, meanwhile took his priestly vows seriously. He was cousin to John the Baptist, the chief Rabbi of the Essenes and second in line to take over the position. With the executions of John and Judas Thomas, Jesus became the chief rabbi of the Essenes.

During much of his youth, Jesus lived in Britain with his uncle Joseph of Armithea, who ran a lucrative tin trading business between Cornwall and Phoenicia. While in Cornwall, Jesus learned the secrets of the Druids, a Celtic religion which was closely allied with the Essenes. Both shared a belief in fraternal love and a strict set of fatal punishments for those who betrayed the mysteries of their faiths. And both demanded a rigorous three stage initiation process for those wishing to be privy to those mysteries.

Jesus was in Rome at the time of his brother's crucifixion. He and his family and followers escaped the city in the wake of the crackdown on Zealots following Judas Thomas's revolt. Most went to Marseilles and from there spread throughout Gaul and Britain. Jesus and his wife fled to Britain.

Yes, wife. According to British Freemasonry, he had four of them. His first, a Nabatean named Cypros produced five children, the most famous being Caradoc, a future king who would fight Rome with savage success.

But it was the second, Mary Magdelene who was even more significant. Her father was an early British Celtic king and she a Celtic princess. Their children and all their descendants produced the British royal lineage. With this marriage, Jesus became a Celtic royal and he was given a suitable new royal name, Jesus Cunobeline.

Shortly after his arrival in Britain, Jesus Cunobeline and his family were given royal jurisdiction over a huge tract of land in southern Wales. It is for this reason that the Prince Of Wales is considered a direct anscestor of the first king of modern Wales, Jesus Cunobeline, with privileges that extend to all of Judaism and Israel.

Just before Emperor Claudius attacked Britain, Jesus abdicated his crown to his son Caradoc, who defeated the Romans at every turn. But through trickery, he and his father, Jesus Cunobeline were captured and shipped in shackles to Rome. Caradoc appealed to the Roman Senate for clemency and was granted it on condition that Britain never fought Rome on its soil again. He accepted the proviso and he and his entourage were given a palace of their own. Jesus lived there for seven years.

Then he sailed to Egypt to learn the secrets of the Egyptian mystery schools. He was an honored student and soaked in the secret handshakes, cryptic messages and graduated revelations. The Christianity of Jesus became Freemasonry.

Jesus wanted to share his new complete Essene/Druidic/Essene religion and that proved his undoing. He was stoned to death in London, aged 63, for betraying his vows and revealing the secrets of the mystery schools.

However, back in Rome, presbyters had combined the lives of Jesus and Judas Thomas to create a rapidly growing religion. The British-born Roman emperor Constantine of York, a direct descendant of Jesus, and his mother Helena saw a great advantage in spreading a publicly accepted story of Jesus to create unity in the empire, while keeping the true story alive amongst the most trusted of British royalty and their closest allies.

Constantine gathered a British army and smashed his way to Rome. Shortly after, in 330, he convened a conference of presbyters in Nicaea to unify Christianity. Final gospels were voted on and a New Testament created. But to assure that his empire's newly official religion never forgot the Israelite roots of Jesus and the British royal line, Constantine tacked the Jewish scriptures onto the New Testament.

As far as British freemasonry is concerned, they are both the true Jews and true Christians. This, they reason, is the right that comes with knowing the secret truth of Jesus."
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Re: Freemasons: What are they about? What do they do?

Postby Taco » Fri Dec 04, 2015 6:33 am



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Re: Freemasons: What are they about? What do they do?

Postby Adama » Fri Dec 04, 2015 1:59 pm

Who is it that you think runs the History channel and the rest of the media? That is nothing more than a propaganda piece.
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Re: Freemasons: What are they about? What do they do?

Postby Winston » Mon Dec 07, 2015 6:49 pm

Adama wrote:Who is it that you think runs the History channel and the rest of the media? That is nothing more than a propaganda piece.


Yeah but why would History Channel start running pieces on Secret Societies and draw attention to them? Even if they claim there are no nefarious conspiracies, it raises doubt and controversy just by bringing the whole subject up. Why would the elite want that? It encourages people to look into the subject more and ask more questions. Wouldn't the elite not want such attention?

If anyone wants to see how secret societies like the Freemasons work, see the chilling film "Brotherhood of the Bell" with Glen Ford. It's clearly a whistleblowing film but has been suppressed. There are some copies on YouTube and Torrent sites, but they are low quality versions.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=brotherhood+of+the+bell
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Re: Freemasons and Secret Societies: What are they about?

Postby Winston » Mon Dec 07, 2015 7:36 pm

Here is a great History Channel documentary about secret societies. It examines the question of whether secret societies rule the world or not, and features researchers and authors on both sides. The conspiracy side features David Icke and Jim Marrs. This was produced back in the late 1990's, but it's still good and presents the subject well.



Here is a newer Discovery Channel documentary called "Secrets of Secret Societies" that also examines the same question. It features Alex Jones, an ex-Freemason whistleblower, and historians who think Illuminati conspiracy theories are greatly exaggerated and simplified. It also shows you a live ritual in OTO, an offshoot of Freemasonry, where initiates summon a supernatural entity to possess them and give them truth, light and wisdom.

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Re: Freemasons and Secret Societies: What are they about?

Postby Taco » Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:06 am

Secret society facts...

1. Exist in all countries and cultures
2. Are set up to override existing laws
3. Concentrate money and political power in the hands of a few people
4. Are the primary reason countries experience political, economic and social collapse

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Re: Freemasons and Secret Societies: What are they about?

Postby Taco » Mon Dec 14, 2015 6:36 am

Our political leaders are Freemasons.

All major social institutions have been subverted. But thanks to the media, the public is none the wiser. Their secret societies control government, business, the church, military, education and law. It is considered a breach of good taste to even mention this.

We have de facto Communism. The news consists of psy ops and propaganda. Entertainment is social engineering and satanism. Religion is suppressed.

- Henry Makow

Here's a list of some of the more common Masonic organizations in most cities in North America.

1. Rotary Club
2. Lions Club
3. Kiwanis Club
4. Shriners
5. Elks Lodge
6. Eastern Star
7. Order Of Royal Purple
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Re: Freemasons and Secret Societies: What are they about?

Postby Taco » Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:09 am

"Freemasonry is the world's largest secret society with over five million members, including three million in the US.

Our political and cultural leaders are mostly dupes or traitors. The subversion of the United States is part of a plan for world tyranny."

The Aim of Freemasonry is the Triumph of Communism
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Re: Freemasons and Secret Societies: What are they about?

Postby fschmidt » Sat Dec 19, 2015 1:14 am

One of the problems with secret societies is that it is hard to find primary source which makes it difficult to know what is really true. In the case of the Freemasons, I admit to using a secondary source that I found convincing:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004C04HDK

As a general rule, I think any group hated by conspiracy lunatics is probably a good group.
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Re: Freemasons and Secret Societies: What are they about?

Postby Winston » Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:43 pm

fschmidt wrote:One of the problems with secret societies is that it is hard to find primary source which makes it difficult to know what is really true. In the case of the Freemasons, I admit to using a secondary source that I found convincing:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004C04HDK

As a general rule, I think any group hated by conspiracy lunatics is probably a good group.


But they do exist. Your book linked above looks good. I never heard of it before. There are primary sources if you want them though. I gave you some in another thread.

- "Proofs of a Conspiracy" by John Robison, published in 1797 (how ironic that the name John Robison was used in your book link above too)
- "Code of the Illuminati" by Abbe Barreul, published in 1798

They are available on Amazon Kindle for a dollar.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-text&field-keywords=proofs+of+a+conspiracy
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-text&field-keywords=code+of+the+illuminati

They are primary sources because the authors had interviewed those involved in the French Revolution and had access to the exposed documents of the Bavarian Illuminati written by Adam Weishaupt. George Washington was sent Robison's book and he admitted that the Illuminati was real and had come to America. I showed you the quotes from his letter about that from the Library of Congress in the Jon Ronson thread you started.

http://www.amazon.com/Proofs-Conspiracy-Governments-Freemasons-Illuminati-ebook/dp/B00LDHTZI2/

John Robison (1739-1805) was a Scottish scientist, who late in life wrote the one of the definitive studies of the Bavarian Illuminati. He was a contemporary and collaborator with James Watt, with whom he worked on an early steam car, contributor to the 1797 Encylopedia Britannica, professor of philosophy at the University of Edinburgh, and inventor of the siren.

Although Robison was very much an advocate of science and rationalism, in later life, disillusioned by the French Revolution, he became an ardent monarchist. In this work, Proofs of a Conspiracy, Robison laid the groundwork for modern conspiracy theorists by implicating the Bavarian Illuminati as responsible for the excesses of the French Revolution. The Bavarian Illuminati, a rationalist secret society, was founded by Adam Weishaupt in 1776 in what is today Germany. They had an inner core of true believers, who secretly held radical atheist, anti-monarchist and possibly proto-feminist views, at that time considered beyond the pale. They recruited by infiltrating the numerous (and otherwise benign) Freemasonic groups which were active at the time on the continent. Necessarily they had a clandestine, compartmentalized, hierarchical organizational form, which has led some modern conspiracy theorists to identify them as the original Marxist-Leninist group. However, this is most likely simply a case of parallel evolution.

Since we don't have convenient access to the source documents of the Bavarian Illuminati we have to rely on Robison and the Abbe Barruel's Memoirs Illustrating the History of Jacobinism, both in the 'opposing views' category, for information on this group. The Illuminati have today become a byword for a secret society which hoodwinks its junior members and puppet-masters society at large. This reputation is in no little part due to Robison's book.


About the Author
John Robison (1739-1805) was a Scottish physicist and mathematician. He was a professor of philosophy at the University of Edinburgh. A member of the Edinburgh Philosophical Society when it received its royal warrant, he was appointed as the first General Secretary to the Royal Society of Edinburgh. Robison invented the siren and also worked with James Watt on an early steam car. Following the French Revolution, Robison became disenchanted with elements of the Enlightenment. He authored Proofs of a Conspiracy in 1797-a polemic accusing Freemasonry of being infiltrated by Weishaupt's Order of the Illuminati. Robison and French priest Abbé Barruel independently developed similar views that the Illuminati had infiltrated Continental Freemasonry, leading to the excesses of the French Revolution. In 1798, the Reverend G. W. Snyder sent Robison's book to George Washington for his thoughts on the subject in which he replied to him in his Letter to the Reverend G. W. Snyder (24 October 1798). Modern conspiracy theorists like Nesta Webster and William Guy Carr believe that Robison's book described what the Illuminati may have started was the template for the subversion of otherwise benign organizations by radical groups through the 19th and 20th centuries. Spiritual Counterfeits Project editor Tal Brooke has compared the views of Proofs of a Conspiracy with those found in Carroll Quigley's Tragedy and Hope (Macmillan, 1966). Brooke suggests that the new world order, which Robison believed Adam Weishaupt (founder of the Illuminati) had in part accomplished through the infiltration of Freemasonry, will now be completed by those holding sway over the international banking system (e.g., by means of the Rothschilds' banks, Federal Reserve, IMF, and World Bank).


http://www.amazon.com/Memoirs-Illustrating-History-Jacobinism-Augustin-ebook/dp/B001F0RTVC/

However, Barreul was a respected historian, even though he wrote from a decidedly bias point of view. He was able to view the primary source documents and interview participants. As such this book is today, in and of itself, a primary source of the Illuminati.


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Why are you denying the existence of conspiracies and the plot for a NWO, when elite bankers themselves have OPENLY ADMITTED such a plot? For example:

"We shall have world government, whether or not we like it. The question is only whether world government will be achieved by consent or by conquest." - James Warburg, son of Paul Warburg, one of the founders of the Federal Reserve

This is a REAL documented quote by the elite, and is thus a primary source. It's even on Wikipedia. See below:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Warburg

James Paul Warburg (August 18, 1896 – June 3, 1969) was a German-born American banker. He was well known for being the financial adviser to Franklin D. Roosevelt. His father was banker Paul Warburg, member of the Warburg family and "father" of the Federal Reserve system.

Warburg was a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. He gained some notice in a February 17, 1950, appearance before the U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations in which he said, "We shall have world government, whether or not we like it. The question is only whether world government will be achieved by consent or by conquest."[1]


Also, David Rockefeller wrote in his memoirs:

http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/9951.David_Rockefeller

“For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure--one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”
― David Rockefeller, Memoirs

"We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the work is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a World Government.The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries."
― David Rockefeller to Trilateral Commission in 1991
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Re: Freemasons and Secret Societies: What are they about?

Postby Winston » Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:54 pm

To those who think the Illuminati is fiction, myth and paranoid fantasy:

It is a historical fact that there was a Bavarian Illuminati that was started by Adam Weishaupt in 1776 and officially founded on May 1st, which is also the day that Communists celebrate. Coincidence? Not according to top conspiracy researchers and experts. The only question is whether the Bavarian Illuminati ended when it was exposed in 1786 when lightning hit one of its couriers in Europe. After that, the monarchs of Europe banned it. So it either ended there, or it went underground and infiltrated the Freemason secret societies and other front groups. That's the issue. Not whether it ever existed.

Establishment historians like to tell you that the Illuminati ended there, to draw you away from "conspiracy theories" because you are not supposed to believe that conspiracies are possible in the high level power structures of America. But historical documents and primary sources say otherwise. You guys should check them out first before drawing your conclusions.

First, have any of you read "Proofs of a Conspiracy" by John Robison, published in 1798? It was published at the time that the Bavarian Illuminati started by Adam Weishaupt existed, and was based on primary sources at the time. In that book, Robison explained how the Illuminati infiltrated Freemasonry and fled to America to escape persecution, and how it was responsible for the French Revolution too (which were not random uprisings as you've been told). He exposed the plans of the Illuminati to abolish the monarchy, religion, breakup the family, spread feminism, start a new world order and global government, and use "democracy" and "socialism" as a stepping stone to all these goals. Today we see that most of these objectives of Weishaupt's Illuminati have COME TRUE, as we all know. Coincidence? Yeah right. I think not.

Even George Washington said that the Illuminati existed. A copy of Robison's book was sent to him, and Washington admitted in his personal letters that it was true that the Illuminati had come to America and infiltrated Freemasonry. This is a PRIMARY SOURCE guys! Here are Washington's exact words about it in his letter:

"It was not my intention to doubt that, the Doctrines of the Illuminati, and principles of Jacobinism had not spread in the United States. On the contrary, no one is more truly satisfied of this fact than I am.
The idea that I meant to convey, was, that I did not believe that the Lodges of Free Masons in this Country had, as Societies, endeavoured to propagate the diabolical tenets of the first, or pernicious principles of the latter (if they are susceptible of seperation). That Individuals of them may have done it, or that the founder, or instrument employed to found, the Democratic Societies in the United States, may have had these objects; and actually had a seperation of the People from their Government in view, is too evident to be questioned."

- George Washington, Mount Vernon, October 24, 1798.

The letter is archived in the Library of Congress here:
http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?ammem/mgw:@field%28DOCID+@lit%28gw360395%29%29

Here is a scanned copy of Washington's handwritten letter:

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Anyhow, you can read John Robison's "Proofs of a Conspiracy" for free online. Just Google "John Robison Proofs of a Conspiracy". You can also get it from Amazon Kindle for free. The full title of it is: "PROOFS OF A CONSPIRACY AGAINST ALL THE RELIGIONS AND GOVERNMENTS OF EUROPE, CARRIED ON IN THE SECRET MEETINGS OF FREE MASONS, ILLUMINATI, AND READING SOCIETIES". It was written during the time that the Bavarian Illuminati was exposed and went underground so it's a primary source, which even contains quotes from Adam Weishaupt himself, such as this:

"The great strength of our Order lies in its concealment; let it never appear in any place in its own name, but always covered by another name, and another occupation. None is better than the three lower degrees of Free Masonry; the public is accustomed to it, expects little from it, and therefore takes little notice of it. Next to this, the form of a learned or literary society is best suited to our purpose, and had Free Masonry not existed, this cover would have been employed; and it may be much more than a cover, it may be a powerful engine in our hands. By establishing reading societies, and subscription libraries, and taking these under our direction, and supplying them through our labours, we may turn the public mind which way we will." - Adam Weishaupt


Links to this historical book:
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/PROOFS_OF_A_CONSPIRACY_John_Robison.pdf
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2864812-proofs-of-a-conspiracy
http://www.sacred-texts.com/sro/pc/pc03.htm

John Robison (1739-1805) was a Scottish scientist, who late in life wrote the one of the definitive studies of the Bavarian Illuminati. He was a contemporary and collaborator with James Watt, with whom he worked on an early steam car, contributor to the 1797 Encylopedia Britannica, professor of philosophy at the University of Edinburgh, and inventor of the siren.

Although Robison was very much an advocate of science and rationalism, in later life, disillusioned by the French Revolution, he became an ardent monarchist. In this work, Proofs of a Conspiracy, Robison laid the groundwork for modern conspiracy theorists by implicating the Bavarian Illuminati as responsible for the excesses of the French Revolution. The Bavarian Illuminati, a rationalist secret society, was founded by Adam Weishaupt in 1776 in what is today Germany. They had an inner core of true believers, who secretly held radical atheist, anti-monarchist and possibly proto-feminist views, at that time considered beyond the pale. They recruited by infiltrating the numerous (and otherwise benign) Freemasonic groups which were active at the time on the continent. Necessarily they had a clandestine, compartmentalized, hierarchical organizational form, which has led some modern conspiracy theorists to identify them as the original Marxist-Leninist group. However, this is most likely simply a case of parallel evolution.


Another book that also came out in 1798 that also exposed the Illuminati was "Code of the Illuminati" by Abbe Barreul:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0021YV3F4/internetsacredte

This is the third part (of four) of Abbé Barreul's massive polemic history of the French Revolution. This book is of interest because it contains extensive quotes from the actual literature of the Bavarian Illuminati.

This is the most comprehensive work in English on the historical theory, structure and practice of the Bavarian Illuminati. It complements Robison's Proofs of a Conspiracy, the other major contemporary account.

Founded in 1776, shortly before the American Revolution, the Bavarian Illuminati were a secret society with a revolutionary ideology, and a centralized structure. According to Abbé Barreul, they subverted the Masonic lodges of Europe, and were one of the key driving forces behind the French Revolution. New members were gradually initiated into the group's radical ideas, which, according to Barreul, were atheist and anarchist in essence.


And yes this is a PRIMARY SOURCE because:

http://www.sacred-texts.com/sro/mhj/index.htm

Barreul was very conservative, and his translator, Robert Edward Clifford, likewise. However, Barreul was a serious historian, even though he wrote from a decidedly non-neutral point of view. As a contemporary, he was able to view the primary source documents and interview participants. As such this book is today, in and of itself, a primary source.


Also, in 1924, Nesta Webster published a book called "Secret Societies and Subversive Movements" where she exposed the Illuminati, Freemasons, and Zionist conspiracies. Do you know about that? It is referenced by conspiracy researchers, and you can read it for free online or get it for free from Amazon Kindle.

In the 1960's, a NWO elite insider named Dr. Carroll Quigley, who was Bill Clinton's mentor, published a 1300 page book called "Hope and Tragedy" where he outlined the NWO plan of the elites. However, he was very pro-NWO, not against it, and thought it was a good thing. His only beef with it was that he believed it should be made public, not kept secret. You can read it for free online by Googling it too.

So you see, there are LOTS of primary sources and historical documents from insiders and astute researchers about the Illuminati, Freemasonry and NWO conspiracies. So why are some of you pretending that such conspiracies don't exist? For God sake, please try to EDUCATE yourself on such things. Check out the books above, which are close to being primary sources or contain them.

You can also start by watching this presentation by the John Birch Society called "Overview of America II" which presents historical documents about the Illuminati, NWO and Council on Foreign Relations, that ties it all together. It's very good and informative.

Overview of America II
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eOS5acoEJk

Also see the original "Overview of America", a 30 minute documentary that presents facts and truths that I'm sure you will all agree with:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MzxC8Mqupw

Next, see this 45 minute documentary "The Capitalist Conspiracy" by Edward G Griffin, which gives a great factual introduction to the conspiracies that rule the Western world today.

The Capitalist Conspiracy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udWXFC2sWU8

I'm gonna keep throwing these documents and links at you all until you agree to get yourself EDUCATED and stop living in denial about these historical facts and modern realities about conspiracies. Don't make me repeat all this again please. Oh and sorry but waving your hand in dismissal DOES NOT remove all this evidence, historical documents and facts. Neither does ignoring all this. So don't even try to do that. No can do. Deal with the reality please.
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Re: Freemasons and Secret Societies: What are they about?

Postby Winston » Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:56 pm

If any of you still think conspiracies are just theories or paranoid fantasies, and scoff at them due to your establishment programming, well think again. Here are many quotes from past US Presidents and Washington insiders warning us about a hidden elite cabal and shadow government running America and pulling the strings. They are all primary sources that are cited and referenced.

http://consciouslifenews.com/verified-warnings-presidents-about-invisible-government-running-allegiance-people/1136001/

Dire Warnings From Past U.S. Presidents and Other High-Profile Leaders About an “Invisible Government” That Runs the U.S. With “No Allegiance To the People”

George Washington

“It was not my intention to doubt that, the Doctrines of the Illuminati, and principles of Jacobinism had not spread in the United States. On the contrary, no one is more truly satisfied of this fact than I am. The idea that I meant to convey, was, that I did not believe that the Lodges of Free Masons in this Country had, as Societies, endeavoured to propagate the diabolical tenets of the first, or pernicious principles of the latter (if they are susceptible of seperation). That Individuals of them may… actually had a seperation [sic] of the People from their Government in view, is too evident to be questioned.” – George Washington, 1st President of the United States (1789–1797), from a letter that Washington wrote on October 24, 1798, which can be found in the Library of Congress.

Thomas Jefferson

“I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies.” —Thomas Jefferson, 3rd President of the United States (1801–1809) and principal author of the United States Declaration of Independence (1776), in a letter written to John Taylor on May 28, 1816

John C Calhoun

“A power has risen up in the government greater than the people themselves, consisting of many and various powerful interests, combined in one mass, and held together by the cohesive power of the vast surplus in banks.” – John C. Calhoun, Vice President (1825-1832) and U.S. Senator, from a speech given on May 27, 1836

Note that it appears that Washington’s and Jefferson’s concerns regarding bankers and separation of the people from the government was realized by 1836. This fact was confirmed in a letter written by FDR in 1933 (see below) in which he wrote that “a financial element in the large centers has owned the government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson.” Jackson was the seventh president of the United States (1829-1937). Calhoun served as Jackson’s vice-president from 1829-1932.

Theodore Roosevelt

“Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people. To destroy this invisible government, to befoul the unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the statesmanship of the day.”— Theodore Roosevelt, 26th President of the United States, Theodore Roosevelt, An Autobiography, 1913 (Appendix B)

Woodrow Wilson

“A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is privately concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men… [W]e have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated, governments in the civilized world—no longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and the duress of small groups of dominant men.” – Woodrow Wilson, 28th President of the United States, The New Freedom, 1913

“Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men’s views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.” – Woodrow Wilson, 28th President of the United States, The New Freedom, 1913

John F Hylan

“The real menace of our Republic is the invisible government, which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy legs over our cities, states and nation… The little coterie of powerful international bankers virtually run the United States government for their own selfish purposes. They practically control both parties, … and control the majority of the newspapers and magazines in this country. They use the columns of these papers to club into submission or drive out of office public officials who refuse to do the bidding of the powerful corrupt cliques which compose the invisible government. It operates under cover of a self-created screen [and] seizes our executive officers, legislative bodies, schools, courts, newspapers and every agency created for the public protection.” – New York City Mayor John F. Hylan, New York Times, March 26, 1922

Edward Bernays

“The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country… We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of.” – Edward Bernays (“the father of public relations”), Propaganda, 1928 (note that Bernays’ book, Propaganda, begins with the above quote).

Louis T McFadden

“Mr. Chairman, we have in this country one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks. The Federal Reserve Board, a Government board, has cheated the Government of the United States and the people of the United States out of enough money to pay the national debt…Mr. Chairman, when the Federal Reserve act was passed, the people of the United States did not perceive that a world system was being set up here… and that this country was to supply financial power to an international superstate — a superstate controlled by international bankers and international industrialists acting together to enslave the world for their own pleasure.” – Congressman Louis T. McFadden, from a speech delivered to the House of Representatives on June 10, 1932

Franklin D Roosevelt

“The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson.” — Franklin Delano Roosevelt, 32nd President of the United States (1933–1945), in a letter to Colonel Edward M House dated November 21, 1933, as quoted in F.D.R.: His Personal Letters, 1928-1945.

William Jenner

“Today the path to total dictatorship in the U.S. can be laid by strictly legal means… We have a well-organized political-action group in this country, determined to destroy our Constitution and establish a one-party state… It operates secretly, silently, continuously to transform our Government… This ruthless power-seeking elite is a disease of our century… This group…is answerable neither to the President, the Congress, nor the courts. It is practically irremovable.” – Senator William Jenner, 1954 speech

J. Edgar Hoover

“The individual is handicapped by coming face-to-face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists. The American mind simply has not come to a realization of the evil which has been introduced into our midst. It rejects even the assumption that human creatures could espouse a philosophy which must ultimately destroy all that is good and decent.” —J. Edgar Hoover, The Elks Magazine, 1956

Dwight D. Eisenhower

“In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.” – Dwight D. Eisenhower, 34th President of the United States,, January 1961 Speech

John F. Kennedy

“The very word “secrecy” is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings… Our way of life is under attack. Those who make themselves our enemy are advancing around the globe… no war ever posed a greater threat to our security. If you are awaiting a finding of “clear and present danger,” then I can only say that the danger has never been more clear and its presence has never been more imminent… For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence–on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations. Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed.” — John F Kennedy, 35th President of the United States, from a speech delivered to the American Newspaper Publishers Association on April 27, 1961 and known as the “Secret Society” speech.

Larry P McDonald

“The Rockefellers and their allies have, for at least fifty years, been carefully following a plan to use their economic power to gain political control of first America, and then the rest of the world. Do I mean conspiracy? Yes, I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent.” Congressman Larry P. McDonald, November 1975, from the introduction to a book titled The Rockefeller File.

Daniel K Inouye

“There exists a shadowy government with its own Air Force, its own Navy, its own fundraising mechanism, and the ability to pursue its own ideas of national interest, free from all checks and balances, and free from the law itself.” – Daniel K. Inouye, US Senator from Hawaii, testimony at the Iran Contra Hearings, 1986
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Re: Freemasons and Secret Societies: What are they about?

Postby Adama » Thu Dec 24, 2015 7:14 am

Freemasons are just closeted Satanists. It is also clear that TPTB are composed of these Satanists. Freemasonry is but one face a multifaceted Satanic organization meant to bring about One World Government for the AntiChrist.
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Re: Freemasons and Secret Societies: What are they about?

Postby Winston » Thu Dec 24, 2015 9:53 am

Videos showing absolute proof that the Freemasons worship Satan, Baphomet, Lucifer. However, one should be cautious in quoting the Masonic philosopher Albert Pike, because some of the quotes attributed to him may be hoaxes.






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