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Why Gravity Does Not Exist and is a Hoax?

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Re: Why Gravity Does Not Exist and is a Hoax?

Post by Winston » September 8th, 2017, 7:52 pm

Eric Dubay explains why gravity does not cause the tides on Earth.

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Newton theorized and it is now commonly taught that the Earth’s ocean tides are caused by gravitational lunar attraction. If the Moon is only 2,160 miles in diameter and the Earth 8,000 miles, however, using their own math and “law,” it follows that the Earth is 87 times more massive and therefore the larger object should attract the smaller to it, and not the other way around. If the Earth’s greater gravity is what keeps the Moon in orbit, it is impossible for the Moon’s lesser gravity to supersede the Earth’s gravity at Earth’s sea-level, where its gravitational attraction would even further out-trump the Moon’s. Not to mention, the velocity and path of the Moon are uniform and should therefore exert a uniform influence on the Earth’s tides, when in actuality the Earth’s tides vary greatly. Furthermore, if ocean tides are caused by the Moon’s gravitation, how is it that lakes, ponds, and other smaller bodies of standing water remain outside the Moon’s grasp, while the gigantic oceans are so effected!? The following video explores the actual cause of Earth's tides.

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Re: Why Gravity Does Not Exist and is a Hoax?

Post by gsjackson » September 8th, 2017, 10:39 pm

droid wrote:
gsjackson wrote:
droid wrote:That's a lot of hand-waving lately gsjackson, care to provide a link at least?

I think a theory doesn't necessarily have to be predictive, at least in a testable forecasting way. i.e. the most plausible theory on how the grand canyon was formed etc.
To be clear, 'predictive' may refer as well to what is expected of it when new facts are found. the theory is further supported or gets debunked so to speak.

Again the point is, what would be the alternatives? Magic books describing sky wizards? Those don't work because their -respectable- very premise is un-scientific i.e. faith
You want a link refuting the Cavendish experiment? I think it's somewhere in these 200 arguments for a flat earth, all of which merit your attention. The alternative to the nonsense foisted off on the public is science rooted in experiment rather than theory or faith.

http://www.ericdubay.com/?tag=200-proofs
Nowhere in there is there a mention of Cavendish or a refutal of such experiment, Are you going to produce the reference, or can we disregard your earlier statement?
I apologize if I overlooked it.
http://www.ericdubay.com/?p=832

Starts at 37:30. The experiment has never been replicated, and hardly proves gravity even if replicable.

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Re: Why Gravity Does Not Exist and is a Hoax?

Post by droid » September 11th, 2017, 7:47 am

gsjackson wrote:http://www.ericdubay.com/?p=832

Starts at 37:30. The experiment has never been replicated, and hardly proves gravity even if replicable.
"Now, the Cavendish experiment has been widely criticized by the scientific community because never in over two centuries since its creation has anyone been able to replicate it! Firstly, the balls simply do not always attract one another as they must for the so-called gravitational constant to be constant at all. Sometimes the torsion balance turns towards the balls and sometimes away as it is impossible not to give some slight tremulous motion when interacting with it. Henry even complained in his notes how often as he was performing the measurement the contraption was still in oscillation. Secondly, since his calculated force of gravity was 10^39 weaker than the force of electro-magnetism, from which all material objects are composed, there is no control for the experiment which can factor out and positively differentiate the alleged gravitational force, from the known stronger electro-magnetic force. In other words, the balls could simply be attracting each other through static electricity, a known force existing in all things, billions of times stronger than gravity, and impossible to control for the experiment. Even though no one could replicate Cavendish’s findings, the experiment went down in history as a great success, and is still taught as veritable proof of universal gravitation in science textbooks today."


Like all things Eric Dupe-bay, that's absolute Bollocks, gsjackson, not "slam-dunk".
If you are as inquisitive as you seemingly are aiming to be, you would read Cavendish' paper itself as well

http://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/106988.pdf

as opposed to repeating the 3rd grade pre-digested garbage the FE's present. You will be surprised to see how much care Cavendish took to eliminate, cancel or account for other forces, and that oscillation timing is itself the means to accuracy.

The experiment has been and is readily reproduced

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C._V._Boys
http://rsta.royalsocietypublishing.org/ ... 1.full.pdf

http://www.physicscentral.com/explore/action/bigg.cfm

http://physicsx.pr.erau.edu/Courses/Cou ... endish.pdf

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https://www.telatomic.com/mechanics/cavendish-balance
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The only "controversy" with G is whether its accuracy can be improved on from about 0.01%. But otherwise it proves gravitational attraction between bodies.
If FE's have another explanation as to why the bodies are attracted, I want to see those papers. Their Uppity-Density force doesn't work sideways.

Now check this out, this is another experiment, which proved gravity, by using a mountain. I was not aware of this one actually.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schiehallion_experiment
1)Too much of one thing defeats the purpose.
2)Everybody is full of it. What's your hypocrisy?

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Re: Why Gravity Does Not Exist and is a Hoax?

Post by gsjackson » September 11th, 2017, 2:11 pm

So you're saying that two balls once observed to move a couple millimeters toward each other -- an experiment never since replicated despite efforts to do so -- proves some sort of force inside the earth that can hold the oceans in? Bollocks.

Any experiments "proving gravity after the 18th century? Oh, that's right -- they're not really necessary since everyone accepts the gravity story like mindless drones.

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Re: Why Gravity Does Not Exist and is a Hoax?

Post by droid » September 11th, 2017, 3:13 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol:
1)Too much of one thing defeats the purpose.
2)Everybody is full of it. What's your hypocrisy?

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Re: Why Gravity Does Not Exist and is a Hoax?

Post by Adama » September 11th, 2017, 6:17 pm

Density is not gravity. Life could not exist if gravity were real, because the lightest things couldn't move if the heaviest things are glued to the ground. It is simply density. This allows heavy things to stick and light things to move, because lighter things naturally are less dense and therefore move easily, while heavy things are stuck down. Not because of gravity. With gravity, if the heavy things are stuck then the lighter things must also be stuck, because gravity is powerful enough to hold down the heavy, it must be even more powerful against the light.

The reason why people don't understand this, is because they're trying to impute the theory of gravity onto the reality of density. They want to believe what they see is because of gravity, when it is really because of density. If gravity were real, it is so powerful that it can hold down oceans. That's a massive amount of weight, and if gravity is that powerful, then it is even more powerful on the things which are much lighter. Gravity would have greater power over lighter things than heavier things. The reason why we think the lighter thing should escape gravity, is because what we see before our eyes are lighter things escape because of their lighter density. There would be no escaping gravity because it is too powerful, like an indiscriminate, overwhelmingly powerful magnet.

Does a bird have a mini rocket attached to its back? How can its wings generate lift to escape gravity? Does a bird have to run until it gets to 160 mi per hour before it can escape gravity? Or does it just flap its wings and take off? And how much food would a bird need to generate all the calories of lift needed, if gravity were real?

Gravity is just an invented force. Density is what is reality.

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Re: Why Gravity Does Not Exist and is a Hoax?

Post by Eric » September 12th, 2017, 11:32 pm

Gravity kind of does seem like bullshit to me. Good point, Adama, I'm going to have to think about this one...density vs. gravity.?? hmm...
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Re: Why Gravity Does Not Exist and is a Hoax?

Post by Adama » September 12th, 2017, 11:44 pm

Eric wrote:Gravity kind of does seem like bullshit to me. Good point, Adama, I'm going to have to think about this one...density vs. gravity.?? hmm...
Take an empty balloon. It is not escaping because of gravity. However, pump in some helium and what happens to the density? The balloon is now able to "escape gravity" without having to generate thousands of pounds worth of lift. It doesn't need a fan or a motor or any fuel.

Gravity is fiction.

Because the density of helium is lower than the density of the surrounding air.

For air, which has a molar mass of 29.0 g/mol, this gives a density of 1.18 g/l. Helium, which has a mass of 4.00 g/mol, has a density of 0.164 g/l. Thus, a one-liter balloon of helium can lift a mass of (1.18-0.164) = 1.02 g.

Air's density is 1.18 g/l.
Helium's density is 0.164 g/l.

Somehow this allows the balloon to escape gravity. Or is it simply that the lower density allows it to float?

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Re: Why Gravity Does Not Exist and is a Hoax?

Post by HouseMD » September 15th, 2017, 9:58 pm

gsjackson wrote:So you're saying that two balls once observed to move a couple millimeters toward each other -- an experiment never since replicated despite efforts to do so -- proves some sort of force inside the earth that can hold the oceans in? Bollocks.

Any experiments "proving gravity after the 18th century? Oh, that's right -- they're not really necessary since everyone accepts the gravity story like mindless drones.
There's plenty of basic science experiments you can do to prove gravity yourself using really basic lab equipment. This is literally junior high school level stuff. So much of our technology literally depends on gyroscopes and satellites that would be completely inoperable without them, you'd have to be dense to believe gravity isn't real, no pun intended.

Everybody look out, Big Gravity is trying to keep you down, ooga booga!

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Re: Why Gravity Does Not Exist and is a Hoax?

Post by Adama » September 16th, 2017, 10:45 am

Their arguments mostly consist of shaming, insulting and railings. They also suppose all the underlying facets of these theories are true, and they are so deep in their belief that all this is real, that anyone who doesn't agree with it must be a complete fool. Yet they themselves have virtually no understanding of even what the theories mean; they just think they know what they're talking about. They can't even see how these theories don't even fit in with reality. They just believe the lies that the theories are equivalent to reality, and they're blinded to the fact that it is not true. Because they can't stop believing fantasy, because only complete fools doubt it.

So when you bring up a valid example, instead of actually looking into it to verify, they instead just brag about it being true and then use shaming tactics. In their minds, only fools dare to question the magnificence of their belief system.

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Re: Why Gravity Does Not Exist and is a Hoax?

Post by Winston » September 27th, 2017, 2:23 am

LOL

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Re: Why Gravity Does Not Exist and is a Hoax?

Post by Adama » September 29th, 2017, 11:01 pm

But also, if the sea is always flat, and water always seeks its own level to flatten itself out (leveling itself out, making itself even), then how does water cling to the sides of a ball? Water is always flat, and that in itself shows us that there is no globe. Moreover there is no force, real or imaginary, that could ever cause water to cling to a ball. Water is always flat and it does not conform to the shape of the objects underneath it.

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Re: Why Gravity Does Not Exist and is a Hoax?

Post by HouseMD » September 29th, 2017, 11:07 pm

Winston wrote:LOL

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Gravity causes water to flow to the lowest elevation, not south, that's just retarded. And it is the changing relationship of the moon and the Sun's gravitational pull upon the earth that causes tides.

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Re: Why Gravity Does Not Exist and is a Hoax?

Post by OutWest » September 30th, 2017, 1:30 am

HouseMD wrote:
Winston wrote:LOL

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Gravity causes water to flow to the lowest elevation, not south, that's just retarded. And it is the changing relationship of the moon and the Sun's gravitational pull upon the earth that causes tides.

For some mysterious reason, flat earthers believe
There is some cosmic "up" and "down" in space that
Would make water flow south like snow sliding off a roof.
Perhaps we could call this inexplicable force Uppity and Downity.

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Re: Why Gravity Does Not Exist and is a Hoax?

Post by mattyman » September 30th, 2017, 1:53 am

Excuse me, that map does not represent the topography of the ocean basins. If the Atlantic was dry, it won't be one river, it would be two flowing each side of the mid atlantic ridge. Clearly whoever produced this map is ignorant of submarine topography and plate techtonics.

RE OP, ponds are too small, lakes are affected by the moon's gravitational pull; the great lakes of North America, but only by centimeters. The larger the water body, the great it is affected by gravity of the moon and sun.

What sort of crankery is this from? A site like this that has real knowledge and talks about serious issues? I expect better. There are more productive subjects man!

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