Posted: August 5th, 2012, 9:03 am
Here is a new interview with David Icke where he talks about the Archons, DNA, Royals and Iluminati History.
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My rational response to Darryl:Winston and co,
I have read eleven David Icke books from cover to cover. I like
aspects of his metaphysics and little else. I can no longer read him,
because I've come to see that his complicated worldview relys on a
mixture on rumour trafficking, character assassination and
pseudoscience. You can find a source for nearly anything, and put a
whole mixture of oddball things together and call it "joining the
dots."
Darryl
http://www.darrylsloan.com
+1PeterAndrewNolan wrote:Hi DA,DevilsAdvocate wrote: I can tell you this, don't follow the crowd. If everybody is running North, you should run South. If they run West, then run East, don't do what the masses are going to do or you will lose....
I realize most of you are still not ready to accept reality, and the funny part is it goes a million times deeper than this, so much so if you knew you would go insane....
Signed,
Devils Advocate
I find myself agreeing with you very strongly. The question I have about David is why is he not proposing that we simply put these people on trial and remove them from office so as to set up guvment services that are OPTIONAL and can be subscribed to by anyone who chooses to....and those who do not choose to can choose not to subscribe to those guvment services.
I hunted around in all this for a long time...
What I noticed was NO ONE was proposing a SOLUTION or a REMEDY...until I came across shaefer cox and Rob menard talking about new courts....so I did a lot of reading about courts and ways that people have maintained the peace in various societies over the millenia. Turns out that MOST of them did the SAME thing.....resorted to a panel of elder men to decide issues.
Today we call that a "jury trial" and as far as we know no one has a better idea than to use a panel of older men of impeccable character to decide issues of criminality or dispute.
So why do NONE of these truthers talk of jury trials.
Alex Jones, David Icke, Allan Watts, Michael Tsarion etc....NONE of them talk of jury trials....but Shaefer Cox has had these going for a couple of years....Robert Menards has been trying to get these going in Canada for a couple of years. Roger Hayes in the UK has been trying to get these going for a couple of years...
I myself have been working on this for three years in Ireland and Australia.
Anyone calling for jury trials is a tiny, tiny player in the "truth" movement. Look at me...banned even off David Ickes forums!! LOL!!!
THAT is enough to make me think he has agents as moderators right there.
So yes..while everyone else was running in the group hug direction of Jones, Watts, Icke, Tsarion et al....I decided to strike out my own way.
The conclusion that I have come to is that a man can only be free if he governs himself....if he does NOT follow anyone else but seeks to guide himself through his life for his own ends and his own purpose so long as he does not cause injury, harm or loss to others.
Those who clamour for "leadership" and "leaders" are but sheeple who can not govern themselves and they are best left alone.
I think all the intelligent men who wish to be free in this place have already joined the MBA....
The MBA is the future....it may take some time...and it may be post apocalypse ... but MBA is where the future lay for young men of some intelligence and some means and some will to live in freedom. The rest of the sheeple will most likely be killed off.
I have come to the opinion that the first book, living free, must be some sort of test....and that those who do not choose to live in freedom are doomed to either death or slavery....that is my best guess. Of course, no guarantees....
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PS. If you are so smart? Feel free to share your ideas of how to live in freedom in the future....I have given it my best shot and am working on my best shot....if you are smarter? Please feel free to improve on my ideas.
+1DevilsAdvocate wrote:Winston wrote:David Icke's incredible 6 hour presentation "Beyond the Cutting Edge":
Here is the real truth:
David Icke, like everyone else you see and hear, is the enemy. There isn't one single person whom you see or hear that is not the enemy....
You see, a 33rd Degree Mason has a thousand times your level of intellect, and that's only if you're really super smart to begin with. To the average person living in the USA they have a million times their intellect.
David Icke is what's called a "patsy", that is to say they are used by the Mason's for a purpose, just like everyone else you see or hear such as Glen Beck or Alex Jones for instance.
David's Icke purpose, similar to Alex Jones, is to tell you some truth to get you to follow them, but then lead you to the wrong place so that you lose in the end.
And David Icke, just like Alex Jones, are going to lead you to the wrong place, they are going to lead you straight to the king of the 33rd degree Mason's....
One thing that every person reading this should take note of, I'm a scientist, I'm smarter than all of you put together, and I'm here to tell you the following that is absolutely 100% true:
The reptilian eyes phenomenon is real, make no mistake, I have been researching this to find the truth for myself and it's 100% real.
Hugo Chavez talked about this on TV and contracted cancer shortly thereafter....
Hugo Chavez said "there are people in the USA government who look like people but are not humans"....
Everybody you see is actually one of them.....
You saw the movie "They Live"?
That wasn't just a movie, it's a allegory being used for real life....
I'll feel sorry for all of you, I really truly do, because of your own ignorance you don't understand what is truly going on, and can so easily be swayed by these people for you don't know who they are....
I can tell you this, don't follow the crowd. If everybody is running North, you should run South. If they run West, then run East, don't do what the masses are going to do or you will lose....
I realize most of you are still not ready to accept reality, and the funny part is it goes a million times deeper than this, so much so if you knew you would go insane....
Signed,
Devils Advocate
I've heard of that theory before. However, the more I listen to David Icke and what he says, the more I am sure that he is sincere in what he is saying. His words are too positive, enlightening and awakening to be those of a shill. But it is odd that he and Alex Jones haven't been taken out.DevilsAdvocate wrote:Winston wrote:David Icke's incredible 6 hour presentation "Beyond the Cutting Edge":
Here is the real truth:
David Icke, like everyone else you see and hear, is the enemy. There isn't one single person whom you see or hear that is not the enemy....
You see, a 33rd Degree Mason has a thousand times your level of intellect, and that's only if you're really super smart to begin with. To the average person living in the USA they have a million times their intellect.
David Icke is what's called a "patsy", that is to say they are used by the Mason's for a purpose, just like everyone else you see or hear such as Glen Beck or Alex Jones for instance.
David's Icke purpose, similar to Alex Jones, is to tell you some truth to get you to follow them, but then lead you to the wrong place so that you lose in the end.
And David Icke, just like Alex Jones, are going to lead you to the wrong place, they are going to lead you straight to the king of the 33rd degree Mason's....
One thing that every person reading this should take note of, I'm a scientist, I'm smarter than all of you put together, and I'm here to tell you the following that is absolutely 100% true:
The reptilian eyes phenomenon is real, make no mistake, I have been researching this to find the truth for myself and it's 100% real.
Hugo Chavez talked about this on TV and contracted cancer shortly thereafter....
Hugo Chavez said "there are people in the USA government who look like people but are not humans"....
Everybody you see is actually one of them.....
You saw the movie "They Live"?
That wasn't just a movie, it's a allegory being used for real life....
I'll feel sorry for all of you, I really truly do, because of your own ignorance you don't understand what is truly going on, and can so easily be swayed by these people for you don't know who they are....
I can tell you this, don't follow the crowd. If everybody is running North, you should run South. If they run West, then run East, don't do what the masses are going to do or you will lose....
I realize most of you are still not ready to accept reality, and the funny part is it goes a million times deeper than this, so much so if you knew you would go insane....
Signed,
Devils Advocate
Yess. I too want to hear about this.. I messaged him privately since he posted it a while back.Winston wrote: I've heard of that theory before. However, the more I listen to David Icke and what he says, the more I am sure that he is sincere in what he is saying. His words are too positive, enlightening and awakening to be those of a shill. But it is odd that he and Alex Jones haven't been taken out.
I also don't get how exposing the NWO and its Orwellian agenda will help the Illuminati. Why would the Illuminati hire someone to expose themselves? What would they gain? How would Icke lead people astray exactly?
How do you know the reptilian thing is real?
Yes I saw "They Live". It's on YouTube. It seems too uncanny to just be entertainment. Did John Carpenter know about the secrets of the Illuminati? Was he saying in the film that a certain percentage of people out in public are reptilians or aliens, physically speaking? How can you know who is non-human and who isn't? PAN said that 5 percent of the American public work for the Illuminati, knowingly. Do you agree with that?
As long as he's not mainstream he's no threat to the establishment thus doesn't need to be taken out. Once he regularly starts appearing on CNN or have an own show like Oprah or Dr Phil the establishment would want him out of the way, but don't worry about that because they'll never let him become mainstream. More media exposure maybe but nothing which can influence the masses of people on which societies are based. Besides, mainstream people think he's a lunatic anyway.I've heard of that theory before. However, the more I listen to David Icke and what he says, the more I am sure that he is sincere in what he is saying. His words are too positive, enlightening and awakening to be those of a shill. But it is odd that he and Alex Jones haven't been taken out.
Winston,Winston wrote: I've heard of that theory before. However, the more I listen to David Icke and what he says, the more I am sure that he is sincere in what he is saying. His words are too positive, enlightening and awakening to be those of a shill. But it is odd that he and Alex Jones haven't been taken out.
I also don't get how exposing the NWO and its Orwellian agenda will help the Illuminati. Why would the Illuminati hire someone to expose themselves? What would they gain? How would Icke lead people astray exactly?
How do you know the reptilian thing is real?
Yes I saw "They Live". It's on YouTube. It seems too uncanny to just be entertainment. Did John Carpenter know about the secrets of the Illuminati? Was he saying in the film that a certain percentage of people out in public are reptilians or aliens, physically speaking? How can you know who is non-human and who isn't? PAN said that 5 percent of the American public work for the Illuminati, knowingly. Do you agree with that?
No...I didn't say that. I said I have been told by someone whom I believe to be telling the truth that about 5% of adults in the US know about "the great plan of the ages" and willingly take orders to do their bit. The VAST majority of these people have never heard of the Illuminati and do not know that they are serving a satanic cult. The old circles in circles to keep those outside ignorant.PAN said that 5 percent of the American public work for the Illuminati, knowingly. Do you agree with that?
Wait, but that doesn't make sense. Why would the Illuminati think that David Icke will help start WWIII? He advocates peaceful solutions such as noncompliance with the NWO and its Orwellian agenda. He does not advocate violent measures. So how would he inadvertently start WWIII? I don't understand.PeterAndrewNolan wrote: Winston,
The Illuminati want to cause WW III. To do that they are discrediting governments. So they NEED people to discredit the guvments. What they do not want is anyone coming along with a PEACEFUL way to remove guvments. This is why I was immediately hunted down and offered a job...this is why I have been harassed more or less for four years...because COURTS at the ONLY PEACEFUL WAY to end the control grid and the ongoing genocide.
If men fail to support guys like Robert Menard, Shaefer Cox and myself calling for NEW COURTS then the Illuminati will get their WW III and good luck trying to stay out of it. It will be HUGE and it will be global.
With David Icke there is also the evidence he has presented that parallels my experiences so closely over a lifetime. I think David Icke is genuine in that he is being advised what to do by some non human entity just as I and many others I know are being advised what to do by non human entities. The thing is we can not tell if these non human entities are friend or foe dressed as friend. How could we?
The bottom line is that guys like David Icke and myself are giving people the message that THEY control their destiny and the trick is to LOOK INSIDE and NOT OUTSIDE to know what to do. As soon as you look outwardly to determine what to do next you are going to be subject to the will of someone who will come along and tell you what to do next. And people do this all the time...they beg for "leaders" and "leadership". That is exactly the same as begging to be a slave....and that is the mental condition of 99% of the worlds population now in the west....they beg to be told what to do...and then are surprised when someone tells them! LOL!!
The Illuminati does not want to take out guys like David Icke as they need him to try and create WW III.
I believe I told you this before, didn't I?
What do you mean? What is this "great plan of the ages" that they willingly submit to? What do they think it is exactly? What are they told about it?PeterAndrewNolan wrote:No...I didn't say that. I said I have been told by someone whom I believe to be telling the truth that about 5% of adults in the US know about "the great plan of the ages" and willingly take orders to do their bit. The VAST majority of these people have never heard of the Illuminati and do not know that they are serving a satanic cult. The old circles in circles to keep those outside ignorant.PAN said that 5 percent of the American public work for the Illuminati, knowingly. Do you agree with that?
What this effectively means is that the Illuminati can command about 5% of the population to take specific actions. Police chiefs will fabricate evidence, doctors will misdiagnose, prostitutes will hand over details of clients......when someone gets too close they will be attacked by "reputable people of high moral standing" in the community.
If you stop and think about it....its the perfect set up....you have to admire them...they have done a great job.
This is why there is no point at all fighting them...they have vast resources, vast wealth and millions of willing servants....the only way forward is to leave their control grid.