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Can anyone explain the height change at Oregon Vortex?

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Postby MrPeabody » Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:17 am

Yes, that is a convincing explanation. But, the neat thing is that a tilted landscape can occur in nature that gives you that optical illusion.
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Postby Winston » Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:35 am

MrPeabody wrote:As I said before, the level will show the surface where the people are standing is flat because it IS flat. Its the horizon which is tilted. The surface of the hill is creating the optical illusion - the trees are actually leaning but appear vertical. These places usually also have a house built with angles that creates the same illusion. The house can be built in any location.

This is the Ames room that creates the same optical illusion. The only difference is that the optical illusion of the vortex is actually created by nature.

Check out the video on this link to see the same effect.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ames_room

The human eye constructs its reality from lines and angles and can be tricked. We don't see reality, but rather an interpretation of reality after it passes through hard wired neural networks that put together lines and angles to construct a scene.


Check out the photos here taken by a visitor to the Oregon Vortex. They show that the background has nothing to do with the height change.

http://www.robbecher.www4.50megs.com/Oregonvortex.html

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Postby MrPeabody » Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:58 am

How do you know? The land is tilted at an angle, but you can't see what is behind the curtain like you could see in your video where they pan back and show the trick.
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Postby ph_visitor » Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:34 am

Look at everyone's shadow.

The plank is closer to the two camera points at its right.

The background slopes up to the railing.

The railing is laid to enable the illusion.
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Postby Winston » Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:45 am

MrPeabody wrote:How do you know? The land is tilted at an angle, but you can't see what is behind the curtain like you could see in your video where they pan back and show the trick.


I already told you, the background doesn't matter. You don't even have to look at the background. The height of the people on both sides change when they change position. You can see it in this photo comparison below. The difference is objective and measurable.

http://www.oregonvortex.com/photographs-northend.htm

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Here is a news clip where they show the height change taking place as the people change sides on the plank.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Vs-oeKpD7w[/youtube]

ph_visitor wrote:Look at everyone's shadow.

The plank is closer to the two camera points at its right.

The background slopes up to the railing.

The railing is laid to enable the illusion.


No that doesn't hold water. No matter where you position the camera, the height change is noticeable. Come on now. If the camera angle made a difference, then there would be no mystery. Everyone would solve it right away. You are grasping at straws. And as shown above, the background doesn't make a difference. That's a skeptical myth that doesn't hold water.

Some people are adverse to mysteries for some reason. They need to live in a universe where everything is predictable and conforms to known laws of science. It's psychological. Some people can't embrace mysteries.

To Momopi and HouseMD:

Since you two are good at science, do you have an explanation for the above phenomenon?
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Postby Mr S » Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:41 pm

I've heard others talk about this but I've never been there myself. I'd have to go there in person and experience it myself to get an intuitive sense of what might be going there.
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Postby Jester » Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:11 pm

ladislav wrote:Hey, that is the place for us short guys to date.


+1

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Postby Jester » Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:16 pm

Winston wrote:
Here is a news clip where they show the height change taking place as the people change sides on the plank.



The concrete pad they stand on is thicker on the left.
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Postby Winston » Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:54 pm

Here is what HouseMD told me about the height change mystery. What do you think?

HouseMD wrote:The pole on the left is taller than the pile on the right. It's an extremely simple optical illusion that is very common at mystery spots like this. Just freakin' go there with some string, a camcorder, and a tape measure. Measure both the left and right pole- you will find them uneven. Have two people stand on either side of the poles, and tie a string around the pole at this point. Have them then swap positions, and draw each string taught. You will find that the strings draw two perfectly straight lines across the supposed anomaly, and that the distance between the strings is equal throughout.


HouseMD wrote:http://www.psychologie.tu-dresden.de/i1/kaw/diverses%20Material/www.illusionworks.com/html/plank_illusion.html

There's a basic rundown of the plank illusion. The big tip of should be that they tell you where to put the camera to see the effect since "only cameras can see it" lol. Even in the video, the planks appear to be different heights despite being the same (someone had measured them), so obviously a person would have the same effect happen to them from an illusory perspective. The only thing I find curious is the magnetic effects. It's likely there are one or more large magnets buried there, but they've never let anyone do any mapping or digging around.
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