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The authentic pagans of Russia

Postby MrPeabody » September 3rd, 2017, 9:13 pm

This is an interesting video of a community of Pagans in Russia that have an unbroken lineage that survived Christianity and its little brother Communism. These aren't reconstructionists. They are from a people who never gave up their pagan beliefs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ_2kpTJvj0

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Re: The authentic pagans of Russia

Postby gsjackson » September 3rd, 2017, 10:10 pm

If by Christianity's "little brother" you mean that communism pays lip service to an ethos of communal sharing, then yes. But everyone knows now that this is only lip service, and that communism was/is all about funneling as many of a society's resources as possible into a centralized collection point to be confiscated by anyone having control of government, and therefore it is more apt to speak of communism as Judaism's little brother. Which seems all the more apt given that communism was a Jewish invention and midwifed into existence almost entirely by Jews.
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Re: The authentic pagans of Russia

Postby MrPeabody » September 3rd, 2017, 11:41 pm

"Equality" is a central thesis of both Christianity and communism. As well as "universalism". The belief that one god fits all. The pagans have their own local gods. Thus if you are Greek you worship Zeus. If you are Norwegian, you worship Odin. In that respect, Judaism is more like the pagans - they have their own tribal god Yahweh.
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Re: The authentic pagans of Russia

Postby Winston » September 6th, 2017, 3:22 pm

Are these pagans also called Wiccans? Wiccans claim to be descended from paganism that predates Christianity. However, that is debatable because officially it was started in the 1940's by a British man named Gerald Gardner. So there is debate about the roots of Wiccan.

I saw a documentary about this recently. Apparently in the Middle Ages, many villages and towns in Europe were still pagan, not yet Christian. Only the big cities were Christian. So the church had to gradually phase out paganism. This British Wiccan guy explains the history of Paganism is detail. It's pretty interesting.
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Re: The authentic pagans of Russia

Postby MrPeabody » September 6th, 2017, 7:37 pm

Wicca is a modern 20th century pagan movement that comes out of England. They are trying to reconstruct what their ancestors did. The Russian group actually comes from an unbroken lineage of ancestors that never converted to Christianity. However all Pagans have some things in common, like the worship of nature.
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Re: The authentic pagans of Russia

Postby Winston » September 8th, 2017, 11:21 pm

Here is that documentary I mentioned where a British pagan man explains the history of Paganism in Europe and what the word "pagan" really means. It means "one who doesn't live in the city" because during the Middle Ages, people who lived in rural areas and villages still practiced Paganism and were considered less sophisticated because they didn't embrace the religion of the city folks.

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Re: The authentic pagans of Russia

Postby MrPeabody » September 13th, 2017, 3:59 pm

ThunderWizard was a fundamentalist Christian who became an Odinist after having a personal encounter with Odin. He has a lot of interesting videos on his Youtube channel.

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Re: The authentic pagans of Russia

Postby Winston » September 14th, 2017, 11:19 pm

I think paganism makes more sense. Because if there are gods, then there are likely multiple gods, not just one. Just like there is more than one of all known creatures and beings on earth.

Plus all ancient cultures were polytheistic, including the ancient hebrews and jews. Monotheism came much later and was adopted by a rebel Egyptian pharaoh named Akhenaten, who was banished from egypt for his corruption and defilement of their traditional religions and pagan practices. So I think if something is older and goes farther back then its closer to the original truth.

Also there is no reason why a creator must be only one. It takes multiple builders to build a house, building or ship for example. And it takes a team of game designers to create a video game. So why does there have to be only one creator of this world or universe? The logic doesn't follow.

I wrote a long post before on why polytheism makes more sense than monotheism here.

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Re: The authentic pagans of Russia

Postby MrPeabody » September 16th, 2017, 1:51 am

Even in the Koran and BIble, God talks in the form "we", thus acknowledging multiple gods.
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Re: The authentic pagans of Russia

Postby Adama » September 16th, 2017, 3:24 am

Wicca is actually sorcery and witchcraft. They are witches and wizards.
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