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Caesar's Messiah - How Jesus was invented by the Romans

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Caesar's Messiah - How Jesus was invented by the Romans

Postby Winston » Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:37 am

Check out this new documentary by Joseph Atwill called "Caesar's Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy to Invent Jesus". It presents compelling evidence that the "myth of Jesus" was created by the Roman Emperors.

Here is the trailer:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUPoLMW6dNM[/youtube]

Promo video:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJgvws0ZYUE[/youtube]

To buy, download or rent this new documentary, go to their website at:

http://www.caesarsmessiah.com/

Or you can get it from torrent sites if you are on a budget.

I already saw it and can say that it's very fascinating, informative and compelling. Anyone who's interested in religious history should see it.
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Postby Moretorque » Tue Jul 02, 2013 5:58 pm

My belief is Jesus was not created by the political class, the bible was written by a underclass of feminist. Yes Mr. Wu the bible was written by MOMMY worshippers.

The Bible tells 2 stories, the newer versions have destroyed the female exclaimations the older versions keep them in tact.

Jesus more than likely was a real person and like any story that starts out with some truth to it by the time the authors have the final versions in print it's radically different from what really happened.
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Postby Winston » Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:39 am

Moretorque wrote:My belief is Jesus was not created by the political class, the bible was written by a underclass of feminist. Yes Mr. Wu the bible was written by MOMMY worshippers.

The Bible tells 2 stories, the newer versions have destroyed the female exclaimations the older versions keep them in tact.

Jesus more than likely was a real person and like any story that starts out with some truth to it by the time the authors have the final versions in print it's radically different from what really happened.


That doesn't make sense. The New Testament says that women should not speak in church and must submit to their husbands. No feminist would write that. Are you joking?

You should watch the documentary before drawing conclusions about Jesus. It makes many compelling points and presents evidence that Jesus was a Roman invention.
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Postby Winston » Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:12 pm

Here is an interview with Joseph Atwill, maker of the documentary and author of the book with the same name, on Red Ice Radio.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuqwmMpV2oo[/youtube]

Here is a 30 minute presentation by Joseph Atwill about how and why the Roman Emperors invented the Jesus myth, and how the Gospels were written with a method known as Typology.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UqG8w7ezUQ[/youtube]
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Postby Moretorque » Thu Jul 18, 2013 1:33 am

Winston wrote:
Moretorque wrote:My belief is Jesus was not created by the political class, the bible was written by a underclass of feminist. Yes Mr. Wu the bible was written by MOMMY worshippers.

The Bible tells 2 stories, the newer versions have destroyed the female exclaimations the older versions keep them in tact.

Jesus more than likely was a real person and like any story that starts out with some truth to it by the time the authors have the final versions in print it's radically different from what really happened.


That doesn't make sense. The New Testament says that women should not speak in church and must submit to their husbands. No feminist would write that. Are you joking?

You should watch the documentary before drawing conclusions about Jesus. It makes many compelling points and presents evidence that Jesus was a Roman invention.


More than likely the bible has been altered by the patriarchs who were doing their translations and adding things to it to push even more male dominance.

The original writings are more than likely more feminist, I will show you where the story starts. Dad left us a note.

Page 3 of the first testament states " And Adam Called his wife's name Eve because she was the mother of all living". How could she be the mother of all living when she has not given birth to a child yet? further more all means gave birth to everything.

Think about what that means literally ? some real slick cats wrote it. You better take a little bit closer look at the older writings of it before they destroyed the He n She exclamations.

The guys who wrote it I believe were wandering nomads and did not participate in church or religions of the day.

I have seen alot of stuff on the Bible.

Sorry I did not post earlier Mr. Wu, I did not see your reply.
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Postby Moretorque » Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:39 pm

Mr. Wu, I am waiting on your rebuttal please. And another thing Mr. Wu.


On this planet you have the Father you have the Son and there is somebody else who you came through that literally gave you the breath of air, who could that be Mr. Wu? can you say Mommy, yes Mr. Wu mother is the Holy Spirit in the bible.

They new where the Father and Son came from but not mother. Mother is the God of the bible.
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Postby Moretorque » Fri Jul 19, 2013 4:45 pm

And another thing Mr. Wu, that is if you do not mind Mr. Wu?


Jesus is the son of Women not man, he is mothers only child Mr. Wu .....................
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Postby Moretorque » Sun Jul 21, 2013 5:13 pm

Thanks for posting this Mr. Wu, the bible is one of my favorite subjects. I will study this in more detail but from what I am learning today about how even current history is being radically altered from what really happened I have a hard time believing any of the written history of the past as being factual especially anything which involves political motives and everything does in all centuries.

Remember the victors write history.

I know about some of what is presented in these movies but will look further into detail, I know about Josephus and some scholars debate as to weather his history can be taken as reliable. This is a subject I have not studied for about 7 or 8 years but would like to learn much more about. Our world is based so much on that stupid book.

We have the technologies today to piece this together much more accurately from a historical perspective but it has come to my attention according to some but I have not confirmed this that the archeological digs in the holy lands are being done by the Zionist supporters and slanted to meet their narrative of the bible as real history and actual events and this land is ours because God said it is.

My angle comes from just studying the different older style translated Bible versions into English and then finding a pattern and building from there as to the Females being the creator. I had an in depth one on one with one of this countries premier theologians by the name of James F Strange and he said everything I was putting forth made sense and he could not refute any of it.

He said it was the best theology trying to explain why the bible was written and the real theology of it he had heard in over 20 years.

If you are not aware the people who claim to be of Gods tribe trace their linage through the Mother not the Father.

It's real simple Mr. Wu the Lamb of god is Mother's child and Father kills Mothers only child. It more than likely is a somewhat true story but then just grew from like a folk story to the gospels which were then made available for the masses by the Roman Empire but more than likely the Romans added some things to it to even add more dominance over the females and further the point as to why the bible was written in the first place.

I need to study more of this in detail so thanks for making the information available. I used to study all the information on the bible but then became discouraged after I realized very little printed history is factual and want to rely more on digs but that does no good if they are lying about the archeological recovery results.

And once again, Thankyou Mr. Wu for posting this information. :D
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Postby Winston » Fri Feb 14, 2014 9:16 am

Check out this History Channel documentary about how the Roman Emperor Constantine used the idea behind the pagan cult of Mithra to create the modern version of Christianity. The investigation team goes to Rome and uncover compelling archaeological and architectural evidence to support this. The similarities and parallels between Mithra and Jesus are striking and uncanny.

I guess the logical conclusion here is that since the Romans were unable to destroy Christianity, they decided to infiltrate it and use it for it's own purposes of political control instead. So they created a version of it that would suit their interests.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upLyP5co68s

Also check out this long 3 hour documentary on the first 1,000 years of Christianity. It's very interesting and covers a lot of history.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSYgEsfxyB4

Here is the sequel documentary on the second 1,000 years of Christianity. It's also nearly 3 hours long.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yluMkRRC8qw
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