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I am curious to know who here attends regular religious service. I recently went back to attending Greek Orthodox church. It isn't perfect and I am not a Christian, but it is the best I can find.
Wait, I thought that you were Jewish? Do you do a sort of syncretism with Christianity?
I don't attend any sort of formal services, myself. I walked away from Christianity many years ago, and my beliefs today are mostly agnostic with a mild interest in Paganism. I don't participate in a formal Pagan group, though, and don't even call myself that officially just yet. It's an interest.
I remember back in the day when my mother dragged me along to Presbyterian services. The pastor was an ex-scientist, and/but as politically correct as all get out. Even then, and this was decades ago, it was creeping political correctness as a religion. In one sermon he showed a picture of a natural forest with lots of diverse life forms and then one of a plantation forest with none. He compared the church to the latter because we didn't have any dykes, faggots, unapologetic skanks etc. Occasionally old women would dispute his teachings by quoting passages from the Bible, but eventually they died off and he and his successors got their way. This turned me off religion for a long time.
Is Judaism an ethnicity or a religion? No one seems willing to answer this question. I am ethnically Jewish. I was raised Atheist. I now follow the Old Testament. I reject the Talmud and I blame the Talmud for the Holocaust which wiped out most of my family. For more, see:
http://community.beliefnet.com/go/threa ... _Holocaust
I don't care much about beliefs. My interest is in morality.
Here are 2 links for you:
http://www.coalpha.org/Odinism-In-The-A ... 75188.html
http://www.scripturist.org/God-for-Athe ... 52221.html
I hope you develop whatever interest you have in whatever religion you like and participate in it, because organized religion is the only source of human morality.
England and the CITI along with the power structure in America took Germany over after WW1, I would not blame a piece of literature. People made what took place in ww2 happen not the teachings of a book.
I think I posted this before for you, who put the state of Israel together? I just do not believe any of our history being spoon fed to us.
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As an outsider, I'm unclear on the answer, because I've met all kinds of observant Jews (of Judaism) of different branches, and then others who do agree with the "Messianic" thing, still others who oppose it quite staunchly, Kabbalah types, Rebbe adherents, and then many atheist, or just secular, Jews. It can be very confusing to those of us not in the circle.
Thanks for the info. I'll take a look at these links probably tomorrow afternoon, when I have the free time on my hands. I'll give any POV a fair listen.
FSchmidt, thanks for this thread, and also for the link your amazingly courageous, fair, and persuasive post on the Jewish forum.
Re the original question, I dropped into a Catholic church in San QUintin, Baja California on Easter morning, after I heard a church bell from my motel there. I felt a blessing including power radiating from the Body and Blood of Christ.
I didn't answer the poll because an honest answer would be "NO", I do not regularly attend services. Yet I hunger to do so... it just feels lonely and odd walking in alone.
Not just here. Same damn thing back in Glendale, California at Armenian churches.
Congratulations on attending with your family a the Greek Orthodox congregation. Regardless of faith or lack thereof, you are improving the quality of the peer influence and social circle around your family by orders of magnitude over the general fragmented and neurotic intelligentsia in the US.
I deduce that you are still living in the US, despite an earlier intention to move to Xalapa, Mexico?
"Pick a point and go to it."
-- Dr John Hunsucker, speaking about canoeing on Georgia's Lake Lanier, with its irregular shape, and 1000 miles of meandering shoreline
I read some of the information in that link, it looks interesting. Right now I am watching documentaries on the WWII and the holocaust. I just saw the movie, "Schindler's List" and it horrified me. I always knew the background story on the holocaust but watching that movie put it all into perspective.
I also just watched the movie, "Saving Private Ryan" that was also a very well made movie and historically accurate. I am currently watching a few documentaries on the holocaust, how it all started, the round up of the Jews, the ghettos, and the death camps.
You could not make a horror movie anymore gruesome than what happened during the holocaust. Little babies being murdered (shot to death, or gassed) it's hard to believe one man caused the death of millions of people (not just Jews but also non Jews as well).
Watching the survivors of the holocaust makes me realize my life is pretty dam good compared to what these people had to live through. I almost threw up watching some of these documentaries.
"When I think about the idea of getting involved with an American woman, I don't know if I should laugh .............. or vomit!"
"Trying to meet women in America is like trying to decipher Egyptian hieroglyphics."
The victors write history, who has been writing this history and portraying it from their perspective? who were the receivers of Germany after WW2? the same people who were the receivers after WW1.
It's amazing people can actually be this stupid to believe the crap spoon fed to them when the net has been explaining for 20 years who your real rulers are and how they manipulate history with this counterfeiting con job.
THE PETRO $, ever seen such a con? the U.S has literally been stealing property, goods and services from all across the world for the last 40 + years with this con.
When you are doing a one world feudal serf system the sheople will not be fond of the lie is your best plan of attack.
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I was Catholic as well and went to a Catholic school, both Judaism and Catholicism are big big power sources for the elite to use to control the herd in order to meet their end goal of world domination.
So no you would not catch me dead there, in this day and age " BanG ZOOM .......... " as Ralph Kramden would say.
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The Xalapa idea was years ago. I wanted to move partly because Xalapa was a low crime area. My wife rejected this idea and said things always change in Mexico. She was right and now Xalapa is a center for the Zetas. I live in El Paso.
Sorry you lost your family too such a tragedy, follow the money. It is frustrating that people have a hard time seeing how monetary policy runs the modern world as well as religion and has been for a long time.
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