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Cultural dropouts arenâ€™t heroes. Only a coward would take pride in cutting off the link to his past and going extinct. Yet an entire nation of men have embraced dropping out and throwing away their legacy as a fashionable form of rebellion. The truth is these dropouts are scared of making a real rebellion. All of us men may have common beef with society but when the hour comes there will be razor sharp difference between the men who give up and slit their own wrists and the men who charge forward to slit societyâ€™s throat.
A sense of desperation is driving men to scatter in different directions. Some men run away to third world slums in search of paradise. Other men commit mental castration by joining the celibate cult of men who go their own way. Lastly some men stoop to becoming humiliating amusements in an effort to win the spoils of decrepit soiled whores. All of these paths epitomize a culture of dropping out. The CoAlpha Brotherhood has always stood as the alternative to these cultural dead ends.
While others may surrender, we symbolize the last breed of men who want to fight. We rose above the filth of modern culture. We rallied against decadent westernism. And we allied ourselves with the alternative traditional world view. But after years of experiencing increasingly hostile assaults against our firm voice of traditional reason an infectious hatred has slowly cooked inside of us.
Hatred is the purest strain of morality. And we now yell with pride that our inner hate has left us itching to lynch every liberal lowlife we see. Every day our feelings grow more violent, more sadistic and more impatient towards a common liberal enemy. There comes a tipping point where you decide once and for all that the society who preys on you no longer deserves humane treatment. We yearn for the hour when men with nothing to lose finally start massacring progressive traitors in broad day light with a more radical wave of justice than weâ€™ve ever dreamed of. The question is when this hour comes do you want to commit cultural suicide? Of are you brave enough to join us in retaliating with cultural terrorism.
CoAlpha Brotherhood emerged from the riffraff because we were tired of waiting. Cowards sit on the side. Good men take action. We know we are the last generation of good men before itâ€™s all gone. Our problems must be fixed by us alone. To become the men who are capable of solving our own problems we must start with facing reality.
The reality is our CoAlpha idea has always been powerful, but never practical. We could not have recruited so many men over last five years from places all over the internet if there wasnâ€™t already a thriving undercurrent of hate. We had an army of fanatically angry men march through our doors ready to kill, but we never gave them the ammunition to express their aggression. Our strategy of focusing only on a forum was too low of a target. A forum isnâ€™t enough to wage warfare. Rhetoric alone doesnâ€™t kill liberals. The original idea of a few brave men helping each other in real life turned out to be all talk and no action.
Almost no one was helped over the years. Yet a few gestures that have shined through. For example early on one CoAlpha helped another CoAlpha start his career by providing him a job. Someone else was given visa and travel finances to escape America. Another member was covertly banned from a liberal site that we all know, which masqueraded under the banner of free speech until CoAlpha members stood together and denounced the gutless site owner in public for his sniveling censorship. Small struggles like these prove that the right men are eager to take action when the right moment presents itself.
Passionate talk will not keep ideas like CoAlpha alive though. Any organization must deliver meaningful results on a regular basis. Without results a group is a hollow shell and every new recruit who bangs on our door will eventually be lost to some other cause that shows a stronger will. Men who support ideas like CoAlpha have a decision to make. We can set our sights higher or we can die off slowly in our own separate parts of the world.
For those willing to renew the struggle, we must use different tactics this time. A study of history has demonstrated what empowers common men to be feared. As reactionaries we have a duty to acknowledge history and respect itâ€™s facts about human nature. We do not have the luxury of fantasizing about imaginary human potential like progressive lunatics. The answer in every era, in every time, in every part of the world, in every language, in every culture, in every society, in every race for molding men into a unified fist of power that is respected and feared has always been, and always will be, religion. Now before atheists here spit on this idea and walk out, realize that I donâ€™t care about converting you. Nor do I care if you pray on your knees, have faith, worship a god or believe in hell. If you want to remain an atheist itâ€™s not my concern.
Your beliefs donâ€™t matter. They donâ€™t matter because beliefs themselves donâ€™t make religions indestructible. Islamic Jihadists donâ€™t kill American soldiers by detonating a Quran. Christian crusaders didnâ€™t slice through towns by holding a bible in their hands. And Israel didnâ€™t club the ancient world into submission by swinging a Torah. Any religion thatâ€™s naÃ¯ve enough to think their beliefs alone will shield them from outside mobs who want to kill them will be eaten alive. Victorious religions on the other hand survive and dominate by using a strategy independent of beliefs.
The winning strategy found in every religion revolves around three specific practices that empower common men to defeat the depraved world around them. There is no reason why a group of men canâ€™t remain atheists but leverage these same practices. What specific practices did these religions follow that our CoAlpha Brotherhood lacked? Religions mandate regular meetings, enforce rituals, and share a sacred text.
Regular meetings foster friendship. Together a group sees itâ€™s full strength. We are reminded that we are larger than ourselves and no one is left behind. Talking with each other gives us the opportunity to learn about each otherâ€™s problems on a personal level and offer direct welfare. There can be no community without regular meetings. An organization that cannot even rally members to meet is impotent.
Rituals are moral training exercises. They are shared experiences of the group. And shared expressions of commitment to the group. Many secular groups also employ rituals. For example the US Marines have The Crucible. Greek fraternities have hazing. Citizens of most nations have voting. No meaningful society can hold together without shared rituals. A meeting by itself is not enough. Without rituals a meeting loses itâ€™s structure and becomes just a social outlet. Good meetings offer both moral training and socializing.
Sacred texts provide a shared story that shows values of the group. It makes no difference at all whether you believe the story to be literally true or just a myth. What matters is only that there is a story and that all members can discuss the story as a way of relating to problems in our own lives.
If you want to live in a better world then joining a religion is the only answer. The alternatives to modern society offered by cultural dropouts are just as shallow as modern culture itself. If you disagree with religion being the only answer to rising above modern culture, then Iâ€™d like to hear your argument.
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You need to take a bit of care with the demonization rhetoric. When you talk about murdering "liberals" and "progressives," do you mean, for example, people who advocate single-payer health care, enhanced social security benefits, the repeal of Glass-Steagall's deregulation of the financial market, a higher minimum wage, etc. If so, there any number of similarly self-defined elites who will be happy to offer you a fine income and a prominent perch from which to denounce all these "liberals."
If, however, you are talking only about cultural "liberals," you should make that clear.
Your request for clarification is understandable.
OTOH many, many people are not only dreaming of killing, say, cheerful chipper Satanist-media-brainwashers, self-righteous government murderer/torturers, etc. -- but also their FAMILIES. Bloodlust is rising. I have seen it from WOMEN, I have seen it from people posting WITHOUT ANONYMITY. Judgement day is coming. Prosperous, well-heeled social liberals need to take their chips off the table, cash in, and leave while they can.
On another thread I posted a Brittany Spears video, "I'm in love with a criminal". Listening to it, for the first time, I understood what would motivate someone to kill a woman, just because of whom she chose to fall in love with. And remember, I am a believing CHRISTIAN.
Just imagine what non-Christians will do.
If we belong to a moral community then we are brothers. We should always help our poorest brothers with welfare of some kind. Different religions handle this in different ways. Deuteronomy 15:7 says this:
If there is a poor person among you, one of your brothers within any of your gates in the land the Lord your God is giving you, you must not be hardhearted or tightfisted toward your poor brother.
The first question to ask though is who do you consider a brother? For example are men who violate the 10 commandments my brothers? This is a question everyone needs to ask themselves. Different people will draw the line in different places. The old testament draws itâ€™s own line in Exodus 31:14:
Observe the Sabbath, for it is holy to you. Whoever profanes it must be put to death. If anyone does work on it, that person must be cut off from his people.
The details how welfare should be done, whether it's healthcare or economic policies, is an internal logistics debate for a moral community. Whether someone advocates full on collectivism or free market capitalism isnâ€™t something I care about really. Because the best policy is worthless if the people implementing it are worthless. For example Hutterites practice the equivalent of communism on collectivized farms. But Hasidic Jews are usually independent shop owners. As long as a community has moral people small details like these will work themselves out.
I donâ€™t see moving abroad as incompatible with finding a sound religion. But I do think moving abroad isnâ€™t enough on its own. For example I went to Mexico a few years back and while the women were more traditional the men were completely untrustworthy; I was scammed several times. I think you understand this, but many men here donâ€™t. I'm critical of people who make the mistake of thinking the third world countries are a moral culture to emulate. Third world culture carries some perks, but they are certainly not a moral standard to strive for. We will only find paradise in a religious community, wherever or however that may be.
The alternative to just going abroad is finding a religion before going abroad. This requires a lot of searching and trying a lot of different things. I've gone to several churches but haven't found a perfect fit.
I too hope to see you there some day, wherever this may be.
He didn't argue not move abroad, did he?
Didn't he? I thought he suggested religion as an alternative.
Which traditional religion?
Everybody with half a brain should realize what needs to be done, there is a website called Voluntary Human Extinction Movement and this guy lays it all out like Mr. Spock would.
You are not running from this and as Michael Rupert stated in an interview either we grow up now or we perish. You can't out run the mass extinction we have created and it is going to mow life down on every corner of the planet.
Our only option should be to work as a family immediately world wide and start creating a system to repair the ECO system. The chase is through and this is our last stand to avert total tragedy for future generations.
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