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Religious Tribalism

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Re: Religious Tribalism

Postby Jester » Sun Feb 15, 2015 1:41 am

fschmidt wrote:
Jester wrote:I suggest instead that Jews just attach themselves to a winner like fleas on a dog's a**:

-- Infesting the Helleneic world, even though the post-Alexander Greeks had waged genocidal war against them
references:
-------The First Book of The Maccabees,
-------The Second Book of The Maccabees
-------The Third Book of Maccabees,
-------traditional Jewish teachings about Hannukkah,
all the Jews named Alexander, Alexandra, or Sandy


-- Infesting the Roman empire, even though the Romans went on to wage merciless war against Masada, and enslave the populace of Jerusalem
reference:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudius%27_expulsion_of_Jews_from_Rome

--Hitching a ride on the Mohammedans as they swept into Spain
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Spain#Moorish_Conquest

and so on.


Your analogy doesn't quite work since fleas jump on dogs but dogs don't jump on fleas. The Greeks, Romans, and Muslims all jumped on (took over) Jewish areas which is why Jews spread in their empires.


True.

Of course, the original discussion was about Britain. And it is the metastasized Ango-Zone through which the enemies of human culture operate.

In this case, there were no Jews at all in Britain, before Cromwell. The Sephardim made a group decision to accept Cromwell's kind offer, and to re-enter after a century's absence.

They weren't conquered. They weren't imperial subjects. Rather, they saw good ass to ride -- and jumped.
"Pick a point and go to it."
-- Dr John Hunsucker, speaking about canoeing on Georgia's Lake Lanier, with its irregular shape, and 1000 miles of meandering shoreline
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Re: Religious Tribalism

Postby Jester » Sun Feb 15, 2015 2:06 am

fschmidt wrote:
By the way, Feynman was a Jew too.



Indeed, an amazing man. A real idol of my father's, for his personality and stories as well as his intellect. I suppose that age-wise they were actually contemporaries, because if memory serves from Feynman's book, like my dad in his youth, Feynman too had a phase of wearing a "zoot suit".


Our fathers probably knew each other since physics is a small world. Here is my father's book:

http://www.amazon.com/Physics-Temperature-Plasmas-George-Schmidt/dp/0126266603


He worked in fusion research?

That's exciting stuff.

My dad's PhD was in theoretical physics, but his pioneer work was in creating mathematical tools for analytical solutions to the mathematical models (systems of nonlinear differential equations) created by physicists including (eventually) the Navier-Stokes equations, which are sometimes used in plasma analysis, more generally used in fluid mechanics, aerospace design, underwater stuff. He was more or less a toolmaker for the guys creating the models.

He visited Hughes, Woods Hole, Port Huaneme, CIA etc more than he did Los Alamos.

But indeed they probably did at least read each others publications at some point.

Small world.
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Re: Religious Tribalism

Postby fschmidt » Sun Feb 15, 2015 2:43 am

Jester wrote:He worked in fusion research?

That's exciting stuff.

Yes, also theoretical. And now my current dream is to raise chickens in rural Texas. Times change, don't they? Instead of science and math, the only thing worth pursuing today is escaping modern culture.
Following the Old Testament, not evil modern culture
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Re: Religious Tribalism

Postby Jester » Sun Feb 15, 2015 4:22 am

fschmidt wrote:
Jester wrote:He worked in fusion research?

That's exciting stuff.

Yes, also theoretical. And now my current dream is to raise chickens in rural Texas. Times change, don't they? Instead of science and math, the only thing worth pursuing today is escaping modern culture.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I hope our dads are laughing at this too!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

My grandfather was orphaned at age 12... killed a Turkish soldier at age 14... smuggled guns... fought Turks... carried his little niece out of Van 500 km to safety... then jumped off a moving train to escape commie NKVD... swooped a 17 year old singer, emigrated, changed nationalities, raised four children...

My father fought Detroit street gangs single-handed, learned English, stood up to race-rioting Whites armed with iron bars, earned a PhD, revolutionized applied mathematics, helped bring down the Soviet Union, survived poisoning by the KGB, raised four children...

And now, after a safe suburban upbringing, a promising youth, and more education than most... followed by failures galore... I'd give my three remaining wisdom teeth -- with no anesthesia -- just to have a wife and a child... and be able to provide for them...
:roll:

PS The chicken thing sounds intriguing...
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