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Joel Osteen - Most powerful/successful preacher in America!

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Re: Joel Osteen - Most powerful/inspiring preacher in Americ

Postby Winston » Fri Sep 09, 2016 10:15 pm

Isnt joel olsteen so handsome, slick and polished? And well groomed too? His voice is so skillful and talented. Hes a master in the art of public speaking.

What makes you guys think hes a con man? Do you have proof? Any tell tale signs?

Did any of you even watch a full sermon of his? You cant judge until you have.
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Re: Joel Osteen - Most powerful/inspiring preacher in Americ

Postby Moretorque » Sat Sep 10, 2016 12:04 am

Winston wrote:Isnt joel olsteen so handsome, slick and polished? And well groomed too? His voice is so skillful and talented. Hes a master in the art of public speaking.

What makes you guys think hes a con man? Do you have proof? Any tell tale signs?

Did any of you even watch a full sermon of his? You cant judge until you have.


Winston it tells you in the second book, Jesus said " a rich mans chances of getting into heaven are about as good as a camel going through the eye of a needle "................

By the way Mr. Wu the guy looks like a homosexual.
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Re: Joel Osteen - Most powerful/inspiring preacher in Americ

Postby Taco » Sat Sep 10, 2016 12:40 am

Winston wrote:He's the most gifted and powerful preacher ive ever seen.


So is Hitler and Stalin.

Osteen makes $75 million a year. The higher your income the more corrupt the industry you work in.
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Re: Joel Osteen - Most powerful/inspiring preacher in Americ

Postby Adama » Sat Sep 10, 2016 12:52 am

Our dear Winston is carried about easily by every smooth doctrine, like the wind. Ever learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
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Re: Joel Osteen - Most powerful/inspiring preacher in Americ

Postby YourTrustedAdvisor » Sat Sep 10, 2016 2:17 am

WINSTON!

Please! I beg you! I beseech you!!

Don't be fooled! HE'S A CON MAN!!!!!!!!!

don't man, don't, don't,
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Re: Joel Osteen - Most powerful/inspiring preacher in Americ

Postby El_Caudillo » Sat Sep 10, 2016 3:42 pm

This guy is polished and charming - I imagine there is a lot of competition to be top Southern preacher in the US. And to empty yourself of negativity is good advice....However he is also selling the Christian, Evangelical doctrine...are you good with that Winston?

Joseph Smith was also very charming...
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Re: Joel Osteen - Most powerful/inspiring preacher in Americ

Postby gnosis » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:40 pm

El_Caudillo wrote:Joseph Smith was also very charming...


Let's not knock Joseph Smith :)

The phony preacher in this video has never been assaulted by mobs and had hot tar poured on him. Joseph Smith would preach the day after being almost killed by goons.

Joseph Smith had balls.
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Re: Joel Osteen - Most powerful/inspiring preacher in Americ

Postby YourTrustedAdvisor » Sat Sep 10, 2016 9:00 pm

Winston, buddy, please man... this is serious...

I'm on my hands and knees BEGGING you.

Please, please, please, PLEASE!

Don't fall for this slick-talking huckster!!!!!!

He's a CON MAN!

A CON MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Re: Joel Osteen - Most powerful/inspiring preacher in Americ

Postby Zambales » Sat Sep 10, 2016 9:21 pm

Never trust anyone who looks like a donkey!
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Re: Joel Osteen - Most powerful/inspiring preacher in Americ

Postby YourTrustedAdvisor » Sat Sep 10, 2016 9:28 pm

Never trust anyone who looks like a donkey!


That's right, Winston! The guy is a con man, AND he looks like a donkey!!

Don't fall for his snake oil, Winston!

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Re: Joel Osteen - Most powerful/inspiring preacher in Americ

Postby jamesbond » Sat Sep 10, 2016 10:16 pm

Adama wrote:Our dear Winston is carried about easily by every smooth doctrine, like the wind. Ever learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.


Winston is very easily persuaded. I wonder if he will donate money to Joel Osteen. :roll:
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Re: Joel Osteen - Most powerful/inspiring preacher in Americ

Postby El_Caudillo » Sun Sep 11, 2016 4:30 am

I think Winston is having a good laugh at our expense. Maybe he can contact Joel and cut a deal. EXODUS II men leave America like the enslaved children of Israel escaped Egypt. Seminars with Joel Osteen and Winston Wu, $169, places limited, conditions apply, cavaet emptor!
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Re: Joel Osteen - Most powerful/inspiring preacher in Americ

Postby Voyager1 » Sun Sep 11, 2016 6:05 am

This is interesting

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Re: Joel Osteen - Most powerful/inspiring preacher in Americ

Postby Kradmelder » Sun Sep 11, 2016 9:07 am

It is obvious osteen and his ilk of used car salesman scam artists have never studied their bibles. Do you ever see them use it for a sermon? They peddle their mouths. Certain they never opened their bible to 2 Corinthians 2: unlike so many we do not peddle the word of God for profit.

Whether he is jewish or not, he certainly looks like a jew boy and preaches the values of die Juden: the worship of mamon and the shekel. He has also said Christians should not eat pork ham or bacon and avoids the use of Jesus' name. Jewish traits. Rather than finding his voice and message attractivery, it disgusts me that as a Christian people will associate me the likes of him. He turns Christianity into a laughing stock.
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Re: Joel Osteen - Most powerful/inspiring preacher in Americ

Postby Winston » Sun Sep 11, 2016 9:16 am

El_Caudillo wrote:This guy is polished and charming - I imagine there is a lot of competition to be top Southern preacher in the US. And to empty yourself of negativity is good advice....However he is also selling the Christian, Evangelical doctrine...are you good with that Winston?

Joseph Smith was also very charming...


Well why not? Of course I disagree with some things in Christianity, but I also believe in freedom of religion too, don't you? If it helps people get through the day and brings meaning and purpose to people's lives, then that's good, more power to them. But it doesn't mean it's right for everyone or the "only way to God" as Adama claims. So I have a more balanced view of Christianity, not the extreme views like Christian fundamentalists and militant Atheists have.

Joseph Smith may have been charming and charismatic, but we can't compare him because there are no videos or audios of him since he preached his sermons in the 1840's. :p

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Adama wrote:Our dear Winston is carried about easily by every smooth doctrine, like the wind. Ever learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.


Adama, aren't you a Christian? Why aren't you supporting Osteen since he preaches and promotes YOUR RELIGION? Doesn't that make you a hypocrite? lol. Just because a man is rich and successful doesn't mean he's bad or a charlatan. Some people are just good, so good at what they do that they make millions. What's wrong with that? Isn't that part of capitalism? What about JP Morgan or Andrew Carnegie? Were they bad men too just because they made millions? Or Bill Gates and Steve Jobs? Why can't some people be successful in your book? Is it because you are envious of them?
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