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Why Jesus is NOT the only way to God - 5 Logical Reasons

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Re: Why Jesus is NOT the only way to God - 5 Logical reasons

Postby Citizen » November 2nd, 2016, 11:12 am

C.J. wrote:For the laymen, it's simple.

The bible was created by a chaos god - man. Therefore, it's not a completely reliable source of actual gospel for man to follow. Too much BS. However, devout Christians CAN still use the text as an anti-possession programme, just like Muslims can use the Quran for the same purpose to help keep their minds clean. Probably a gift from Christ.

Aside from the universal karmic laws that ALL lifeforms are required to follow or suffer in their own torment and some basic Earth rules, you can do whatever the hell you want and still reach power/enlightenment if you happen to find it.


You are obviously not of God or the West. There is no enlightenment. There is life and there are the enemies of life; rapists, thieves, murderers, pua, liars..... Life always wins because life is huge, really really fcking huge. The enemies of life are tiny, like gnats. You know if I was making the NWO I sure wouldn't want people who think like you, C.J., being a part of it.
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Re: Why Jesus is NOT the only way to God - 5 Logical reasons

Postby C.J. » November 2nd, 2016, 5:00 pm

Citizen wrote:You are obviously not of God or the West. There is no enlightenment. There is life and there are the enemies of life; rapists, thieves, murderers, pua, liars..... Life always wins because life is huge, really really fcking huge. The enemies of life are tiny, like gnats. You know if I was making the NWO I sure wouldn't want people who think like you, C.J., being a part of it.


I despise the west, yes. The people governing it have gotten away with too many atrocities over the last 200 years and their karma is finally catching up - the country's finances are a mess and more immigrants need to be brought in to prop up the dead economy, Hollywood's being exposed for the abomination it is, people are waking up and not trusting the mainstream media anymore, the western military and foreign conquests are fighting each other, etc.

I'm glad to see the western world be knocked down a peg so westerners can finally walk amongst the rest of the world.

I'm also glad I'm not some new ager who believes that all we need is love! God/Source/Logos, is good AND evil. Both must coexist, because good can't ascend without evil. SOMEONE'S gotta pay the tab for us! For something to be gained, something else must be taken. That's how the western governments got away with their tyranny for so long, all the westerners just wanna screw, eat and drink, not fight their oppressors.
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Re: Why Jesus is NOT the only way to God - 5 Logical reasons

Postby Citizen » November 3rd, 2016, 10:40 am

C.J. wrote:
Citizen wrote:You are obviously not of God or the West. There is no enlightenment. There is life and there are the enemies of life; rapists, thieves, murderers, pua, liars..... Life always wins because life is huge, really really fcking huge. The enemies of life are tiny, like gnats. You know if I was making the NWO I sure wouldn't want people who think like you, C.J., being a part of it.


I despise the west, yes. The people governing it have gotten away with too many atrocities over the last 200 years and their karma is finally catching up - the country's finances are a mess and more immigrants need to be brought in to prop up the dead economy, Hollywood's being exposed for the abomination it is, people are waking up and not trusting the mainstream media anymore, the western military and foreign conquests are fighting each other, etc.

I'm glad to see the western world be knocked down a peg so westerners can finally walk amongst the rest of the world.

I'm also glad I'm not some new ager who believes that all we need is love! God/Source/Logos, is good AND evil. Both must coexist, because good can't ascend without evil. SOMEONE'S gotta pay the tab for us! For something to be gained, something else must be taken. That's how the western governments got away with their tyranny for so long, all the westerners just wanna screw, eat and drink, not fight their oppressors.


Sorry, I have tried to understand your post but cannot. You espouse different ideologies from start to finish. To me there is no cohesion of thought. Reminds me of what a Korean teacher I knew called Asian circular thinking. It is just regurgitation of the thoughts of others.
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Re: Why Jesus is NOT the only way to God - 5 Logical reasons

Postby C.J. » November 3rd, 2016, 6:01 pm

Never attend just one school of thought. Most of you have much to learn.
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Re: Why Jesus is NOT the only way to God - 5 Logical reasons

Postby Citizen » November 3rd, 2016, 7:59 pm

C.J. wrote:Never attend just one school of thought. Most of you have much to learn.


Yes, I can see you do that.
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Re: Why Jesus is NOT the only way to God - 5 Logical reasons

Postby willymonfrete » May 23rd, 2017, 1:40 pm

if I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God's household, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.1 Timothy 3:15

And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.Matthew 16:18

the church is infallible.
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Re: Why Jesus is NOT the only way to God - 5 Logical reasons

Postby Adama » May 23rd, 2017, 3:09 pm

Kradmelder wrote:These religion threads are no longer the same without adama :lol:

They are missing that conservative by the book christian interpretation.



Why would I bother? Read Winston's original post. There are so many damnable heresies there which he believes, meaning Winston is in for some deep trouble, which he probably can't recover from to believe the truth. (And in fact none of you here that I can determine actually believe the truth of the Bible.)

I am not going to analyze in detail because it isn't necessary. I will tell you a few fundamental flaws and damnable heresies which I found just from reading:

1. Winston believes that God is fallible and impure.
2. Winston believes that Christ is not divine.
3. Winston is actually calling God and Jesus a liar with what he wrote.
4. Winston believes that he is so intelligent that he knows what God should be doing and what He should not be doing.
5. Winston believes the way to heaven must be broad, when it is clear the way is narrow.

I've had discussions with Winston before on this subject. I don't know why he wants answers which he won't want to hear from me.

Then you see others here who ascribe evil characteristics to God. That is beyond mere blasphemy.

Also despite the fact that the Bible says salvation is by faith alone, Winston has told me before that salvation comes by loving one another. Why would I bother?
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Re: Why Jesus is NOT the only way to God - 5 Logical reasons

Postby Voyager1 » May 23rd, 2017, 3:20 pm

willymonfrete wrote:And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.Matthew 16:18

the church is infallible.


As I understand it the Rock Jesus is referring to is the rock of revelation that Jesus is the Christ, not on Peter personally. The church as you call it is not infallible because it is comprised of men and women (Body of Believers) who are fallible. Only God is infallible.

Peter was not infallible. In fact Peter was wrong. So much so that Paul withstood him to the face. Galatians 2:11
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Re: Why Jesus is NOT the only way to God - 5 Logical reasons

Postby Adama » May 23rd, 2017, 3:33 pm

Voyager1 wrote:
willymonfrete wrote:And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.Matthew 16:18

the church is infallible.


As I understand it the Rock Jesus is referring to is the rock of revelation that Jesus is the Christ, not on Peter personally. The church as you call it is not infallible because it is comprised of men and women (Body of Believers) who are fallible. Only God is infallible.

Peter was not infallible. In fact Peter was wrong. So much so that Paul withstood him to the face. Galatians 2:11


For the hardcore Catholic, the Pope and the Catholic church are God to them, along with Mary the "mother of God." I am all for teaching Catholics the truth, but when I encounter one who is hardcore and starts preaching untruths such as this, I let them be. Usually they are too far locked in false doctrine to be corrected to the truth.

They've all heard the counterarguments to their false doctrines before, but they've chosen to go with the untruth. That's why I don't mess with them. They've chosen to believe in the church instead of in Christ.
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