I refute that the man is gay, because of what that means. What IS it? Gay people don't feel torment because Christians make them, it's because they are doing something wrong and out of line with nature. They feel internally a sense of wrongness and 'guilt'.Contrarian Expatriate wrote:None of that refutes that the man is GAY, no matter if nature or nurture is the cause.Eric wrote:Certain things can taint you growing up, whether it's drugs or alcohol, addictions, pathologies, phobias, or sexual deviancies. This is just a fact of human nature. Humans are extremely complex and our behaviors often don't make sense and are emotional in origin. Much of it has to do with our family of origin and our upbringing, or what happened to us...belief structures we were taught, all these interactions go together to create complex human beings.
I don't buy the explanation "Born this way". It's simplistic and utter nonsense and insulting to the human condition. It's actually kind of a fascistic thinking that is kind of scary, in a way.
Again, it is Christian bigotry that makes people feel torment and guilt for being gay. It does not matter the root cause of his homosexuality, HE'S GAY! "Christians" (and others) just get over it.....
For the record, homosexuality could be a result of EITHER nature or nurture. We need to get out of the dichotomous thinking on the matter.
If he's gay because of nurture, then that implies that there are things he could do to not be gay anymore. That changes everything.