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Eastern Orthodox Christianity - The truest and most original Christian Church?

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Re: Eastern Orthodox Christianity - The truest and most original Christian Church?

Post by Neo » July 12th, 2019, 10:04 pm

BTW for the Catholics and Orthodox, I suggest they go back and read the passage in the Bible where Christ asks Peter who He is. Christ was not saying that He was building His church upon Peter. He was saying that He was building it upon the belief that Christ is the Son of God. Peter is not the first Pope.
13 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?

15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?

16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
He wasn't talking about building the congregation on or by Peter. He was saying the belief that Jesus is the Son of God is what gets a person saved, thereby building the congregation by their salvation:

1 John 5:13 KJV These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

It's believing that Jesus is the Son of God, also known as the Messiah/Christ/Redeemer/Savior that saves and builds the church, the congregation of the saved.
Salvation is the free gift of God simply for believing that Jesus is the Son of God, and it can't be lost; the only repentance necessary is the change of mind from unbelief to belief, because salvation is not about turning from sin because it is without works. Jesus, the Savior kept all the commandments in absolute perfection for us, ∴ salvation is without works, and He died for our sins, taking the eternal penalty for us.




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Re: Eastern Orthodox Christianity - The truest and most original Christian Church?

Post by Winston » July 12th, 2019, 10:22 pm

Wow guys. Check this out. I found the perfect place to go MGTOW. Its on a holy mountain called Athos in Greece, where a bunch of Eastern Orthodox monks live in peace and harmony. No women are allowed. Lol. They all live and chant just like the first century Christians did. And are vegetarians too. Lol. Outsiders are not allowed and neither is contamination with the modern world. Wow.

Here is a CBS 60 min report about Athos Greece where an american journalist and camera crew are finally allowed in after 2 years of pleading. Lol.



The monks there are happy and do not even want to leave Athos for even a day. Wow. Isn't that the perfect place to go MGTOW? Especially if you have a hunger and thirst for God? Lol

Here also is a 90 min feature documentary about Athos and life in the monastery there, which is very unique and isolated from the world.

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Re: Eastern Orthodox Church - The truest and most original Christian Church?

Post by Neo » July 12th, 2019, 10:47 pm

Winston wrote:
July 12th, 2019, 9:25 pm

Christianity and Jesus could all be true, but not Christian doctrine, nor of the teaching of Biblical infallibility.
Understanding itself is a gift of God. Believers have the Holy Ghost residing with them, which imparts understanding of the Bible to them. Unbelievers will not be able to understand.
Salvation is the free gift of God simply for believing that Jesus is the Son of God, and it can't be lost; the only repentance necessary is the change of mind from unbelief to belief, because salvation is not about turning from sin because it is without works. Jesus, the Savior kept all the commandments in absolute perfection for us, ∴ salvation is without works, and He died for our sins, taking the eternal penalty for us.

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Re: Eastern Orthodox Christianity - The truest and most original Christian Church?

Post by Winston » July 13th, 2019, 1:12 am

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Re: Eastern Orthodox Christianity - The truest and most original Christian Church?

Post by Winston » July 13th, 2019, 1:14 am

Jordan Peterson gives his thoughts on Christian Orthodoxy.

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Re: Eastern Orthodox Christianity - The truest and most original Christian Church?

Post by redfeather » July 13th, 2019, 1:44 am

Winston,
These are good videos of The Holy Mountain Mt. Athos.
If you are an Orthodox in good standing you can receive a written invitation from your own Monastery to travel to Mt. Athos, but this is a trip that you must prepare yourself for.
During WWII when Hitler invaded Greece he did not allow his troops to invade the Holy Mountain.
I take several catches of fresh rainbow trout to the Fathers at our Monastery every season.
Our local Monastery is the Holy Archangels Monastery in Kendalia, Texas.
Here is the link...https://holyarchangels.com/
Go visit the website if you have the chance.
Thanks for posting the videos.

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Re: Eastern Orthodox Christianity - The truest and most original Christian Church?

Post by Winston » July 15th, 2019, 4:15 am

redfeather wrote:
July 13th, 2019, 1:44 am
Winston,
These are good videos of The Holy Mountain Mt. Athos.
If you are an Orthodox in good standing you can receive a written invitation from your own Monastery to travel to Mt. Athos, but this is a trip that you must prepare yourself for.
During WWII when Hitler invaded Greece he did not allow his troops to invade the Holy Mountain.
I take several catches of fresh rainbow trout to the Fathers at our Monastery every season.
Our local Monastery is the Holy Archangels Monastery in Kendalia, Texas.
Here is the link...https://holyarchangels.com/
Go visit the website if you have the chance.
Thanks for posting the videos.
Wow that's a nice pretty church website. So what would you say if someone asked you what the advantages are of being Orthodox vs. Catholic or Evangelical (like Neo, Adama and Pinayhunter are)? Also, why do Orthodox priests and clergy like to have beards? Do all white guys have hair on their beards? What if they don't and they want to be an Orthodox priest? lol. Do they then wear a fake beard? lol

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Also, do you meet any nice Russian or Eastern Euro women there?
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Re: Eastern Orthodox Christianity - The truest and most original Christian Church?

Post by redfeather » August 31st, 2019, 12:48 am

Winston,
I just saw this post.
The Orthodox Monastery priest's all have beards, but if you are an Orthodox member it is not required for you to have a beard.
Many Orthodox guys are businessmen in the local city and they have to keep a clean cut business appearance.
I shave everyday because I am a retired Army Colonel, and this is how I am trained...so I still keep this up.
I did try to meet a few Russian women at our Monastery, but they all gave me the cold shoulder because I do not go there constantly, so after this I decided to go to the Philippines...and I am glad I did.
Most of these Russian women were divorced with kids, and I really did not want to take on all that extra baggage and problems.
I have received an invitation to travel to the Holy Mountain, but I am still busy running my companies and I have not gone, yet.
I believe you will enjoy attending the Orthodox Church because as you know it is considered the original church.
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Winston here are pics from the Lavra Monastery in Kiev...

Post by redfeather » August 31st, 2019, 7:49 pm

Winston,
When I went to Ukraine I visited our Eastern Orthodox Monastery The Lavra in Kiev.
Here are some pictures from my visit.
The Monks from the Lavra are buried in underground caves.
I took some pictures of how well they are preserved and mummified.
This picture is from a Munk that was buried over 600 years ago, and his hand is mummified in the picture.
Our Monks are buried in their sacramental garments with their cross and Orthodox belongings.
In the Orthodox faith we do not mourn death, but rather see it as a passing and another phase of life.
Enjoy my pictures.

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Re: Winston here are pics from the Lavra Monastery in Kiev...

Post by Winston » September 3rd, 2019, 7:27 pm

Thanks for the pics redfeather. Do you mind if I merge this thread into the Orthodox Church thread? I don't see any reason to have a separate thread just for these pics.
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Re: Eastern Orthodox Christianity - The truest and most original Christian Church?

Post by redfeather » September 4th, 2019, 2:56 am

Winston, you already merged it together...so no problem. Enjoy.

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