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Re: Pro-daters active in Ukraine

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Hilarious Strykr! I agree with almost everything in your videos. You've been hands on the ground in Ukraine. You know what you're talking about.
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Re: Pro-daters active in Ukraine

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SteveUKR wrote:
June 17th, 2018, 2:36 pm
Hilarious Strykr! I agree with almost everything in your videos. You've been hands on the ground in Ukraine. You know what you're talking about.
Thanks. I'm not claiming to know everything, but I do have some info that I believe can help guys. We are all learning here!! And we are dealing with people, so there is no one solution.
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Re: Pro-daters active in Ukraine

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Looks like they have the same sort of scams in China



If someone approached me randomly on the street I certainly would not take them for a beer or coffee. If defies basic logic. Some guys must be very lonely.
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Guys I've updated the ScamAware site with two new scams. The Small Amount Scam and the Car Scam. Scammers will always find adaptive and innovative ways to deplete you of your finances and enhance themselves both online and in person.

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Valeriia Ulantseva (aka Valeriia Petriuk). This woman worked as a translator for Dream Connections in Kherson in 2018. She is from Kherson and is interested in starting her own dating agency. I was involved with her for two or three months and she scammed me. A longer post is on UkraineFusion.com - The Fiancee Scam (Mom Is In On It Too).
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Re: Pro-daters active in Ukraine

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Shemp wrote:
June 16th, 2018, 10:28 pm
Here's some truth. All young Ukrainian women, other than very conservative religious girls who none of you will ever meet, started having sex in their teens and have had multiple sex partners. They are all sluts in other words, just like all western women. Many of them were sponsored by sugar daddies like me while at university and so are whores as well. Soft prostitution (sugar daddy or sponsor arrangements) is far more common in FSU than in the USA. The best Ukrainian women get married to Ukrainian men, so all that foreigners get are the leftovers, who are unattractive or have psychological problems of some sort, or financially struggling divorced or widowed single mothers.
No that's an urban legend among men and the PUA community and locker room talk. It's not true that all or most women, whether in the US or Ukraine, are all having wild orgies behind your back when you aren't looking, and you don't know about it simply because you aren't connected to the "cool cliques" or "in crowds" and so thus you are a loser, etc. and you need to "learn game so you can be one of the guys getting laid all the time, etc." Me and @WorldTraveler have had many laughs about that over dinner and drinks and how silly and bogus that claim is. I know plenty of women in real life who haven't had sex in years or are celibate. The truth is, women don't need sex that much and can go long periods without it. Especially older women. There are plenty of older rich women with money and nice houses and nice cars who never date anyone and are happy being alone and never have sex again for the rest of their lives. But they do not suffer from it or get frustrated or horny or try to pay some giggolo or seek some boy toy, etc. Women are wired very different than us. And yes, sex is overrated too. People find that out early in life.

So this is mostly a PUA fantasy and myth that all women are horny as hell and having sexual orgies like you see in porn movies, behind your back and you don't know about it because you aren't in the "in crowd" or "cool cliques" and you aren't "alpha male" so you need to improve yourself, blah blah bhal. That's not even true of most women, let alone all. Women don't need sex the way men do. Lack of sex doesn't make them empty. That's more of a guy thing. And not all guys are the same either. Some go without sex and are fine with it because they just ignore their impulses or have them under control. These myths are in the paranoid fantasies of men who don't understand women and don't connect with them and have no female friends.
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$800? Most guys do not carry that much cash on them, so how can those scams work? That's very greedy to go for that amount. What happens if you call the police? Or just walk away? I'd just pretend to go to the restroom and walk out the door. Then if they follow me, threaten them with karate and chuck norris kicks to their stupid gremlin faces. lol
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Re: Pro-daters active in Ukraine

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Winston wrote:
April 18th, 2020, 4:47 am
It's not true that all or most women, whether in the US or Ukraine, are all having wild orgies behind your back when you aren't looking, and you don't know about it
I didn't say all women or wild orgies. I said young women, meaning teenagers, and I said multiple partners while still teenagers. And I exclude the conservative girls because those girls are off-limits to foreigners. In both USA and Ukraine, girls who are not sexually conservative almost always lose their virginity in their mid teens and then have several boyfriends before getting married. A series of boyfriends (who they string along and ration sex to and otherwise manipulate as part of their goal to marry up as high as possible) is not the same as orgies.
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Shemp wrote:
April 18th, 2020, 5:45 am
Winston wrote:
April 18th, 2020, 4:47 am
It's not true that all or most women, whether in the US or Ukraine, are all having wild orgies behind your back when you aren't looking, and you don't know about it
I didn't say all women or wild orgies. I said young women, meaning teenagers, and I said multiple partners while still teenagers. And I exclude the conservative girls because those girls are off-limits to foreigners. In both USA and Ukraine, girls who are not sexually conservative almost always lose their virginity in their mid teens and then have several boyfriends before getting married. A series of boyfriends (who they string along and ration sex to and otherwise manipulate as part of their goal to marry up as high as possible) is not the same as orgies.
But even if a girl is not conservative or religious, and has sex when they are a teen, it doesn't mean they are sexually active their whole life. Women aren't that big on sex and aren't crazy about it. They can go years without sex and not feel any pain, suffering or starvation from it. We all know women who go without sex and don't care. They don't go insane without sex like men do. I'm talking mainstream girls, not religious prudes. Mainstream girls are not wild and horny and seeking to get laid and to have "sex with no strings attached" like horny guys are. That's a myth. Girls aren't wired that way. If they were you'd see tons of desperate girls everywhere looking to get laid with any guy they can. Even if a teen girl is sexually active for a while, it's just a phase and she usually gets over it and goes into the normal cycle of having sex only within relationships.

Moreover, if you go to any dating website, you will see many women (mainstream women, not religious conservative types) put into their profiles these words: "If you are just looking for sex, go away. I'm tired of dealing with those types."

Basic logic says if most women or girls were into wild sex with no strings attached, then they wouldn't always say that in their dating profile. Right? Remember we are talking mainstream women, not conservative or religious types. Even secular women put that in their dating profile.
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Re: Pro-daters active in Ukraine

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Winston wrote:
April 18th, 2020, 6:01 am

But even if a girl is not conservative or religious, and has sex when they are a teen, it doesn't mean they are sexually active their whole life.
That is not the point. Stryker and that simp SteveUkr think girls in Ukraine are different from USA girls. False, at least if talking about girls open to dating foreigners. Ukraine girls who are open to dating foreigners are all very sexually experienced and will divorce rape a man without hesitation if that benefits them. So be very careful about marriage to these women, even if staying in Ukraine. Go read my original post carefully. I'm tired of repeating myself on this subject.

Like CE, I'm actually starting to enjoy hearing about guys get divorce raped because I'm tired of listening to stupidity from simps like Stryker, SteveUkr, etc. Divorce rape is really the only way to get most guys to take the red pill.
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