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Postby Ghost » Mon May 13, 2013 2:47 am

anamericaninbangkok wrote:
Ghost wrote:How did you get hired at $20 an hour Xiongmao? Did you just search for people who paid others peanuts and got monkeys? I just write right now though, and that's a cheaper skill than coding. Much of it depends on what your skillset is in the first place. But the market is open to all and inundated anyway. That's why my goals is about $1000 a month - consistently - completely online. I figure keeping a modest goal and forgoing any notion of getting rich is best. And that is still plenty more than a guy needs to live in a third world country.


If you break an article down to an hourly rate, $20 is not really all that much Ghost. For oDesk or Elance it's good money though.

The market is inundated with a high percentage of hacks. Anyone with a halfway decent education should be able to write but there is a big difference between writing and writing well.

My own goals in writing are unrelated to earning money. Money is certainly important however my goal is always to put forth an article / book that is entertaining and free of errors. If readers are entertained, the money should come...hopefully.


I find it difficult to make more than $8-10 an hour. And often it is less than that. But I am slow anyway. i don't have a good system or routine really. Just go trawl the sites and pick up short jobs or whatever. I'm working on it though.
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Postby anamericaninbangkok » Mon May 13, 2013 3:46 am

Ghost wrote:
anamericaninbangkok wrote:
Ghost wrote:How did you get hired at $20 an hour Xiongmao? Did you just search for people who paid others peanuts and got monkeys? I just write right now though, and that's a cheaper skill than coding. Much of it depends on what your skillset is in the first place. But the market is open to all and inundated anyway. That's why my goals is about $1000 a month - consistently - completely online. I figure keeping a modest goal and forgoing any notion of getting rich is best. And that is still plenty more than a guy needs to live in a third world country.


If you break an article down to an hourly rate, $20 is not really all that much Ghost. For oDesk or Elance it's good money though.

The market is inundated with a high percentage of hacks. Anyone with a halfway decent education should be able to write but there is a big difference between writing and writing well.

My own goals in writing are unrelated to earning money. Money is certainly important however my goal is always to put forth an article / book that is entertaining and free of errors. If readers are entertained, the money should come...hopefully.


I find it difficult to make more than $8-10 an hour. And often it is less than that. But I am slow anyway. i don't have a good system or routine really. Just go trawl the sites and pick up short jobs or whatever. I'm working on it though.


This is the problem I have with these sort of sites. They make it so you get paid dirt cheap and have to bust your ass to make any money worth talking about. Also, you're thinking per hour not per article or project.

For example, I can write a good 1000-word article in 4-5 hours. That's about my max for the day, maybe 1500 words on a really good day. I set my minimum at 25 cents a word or $250 a pop. It takes me an hour to do a final edit on this sort of piece, which is short for a feature. So it takes me 5-6 hours to earn $250. That works out to 41.66-$50 an hour. Find a 2000-3000 word feature that pays this much and it works out to slightly higher than this. Also, the longer features tend to be in better magazines thus they will pay anywhere from 50 cents to $1 an article. Not easy to get these gigs but if you write 3000 words at 50 cents, that's $1500.

If you sell photos along with the article, which I almost always do, you make even more. Generally, magazines will pay at least $25 a photo, as much as $100 per photo. Plus if you keep the rights to the photos, which you always should, you can make money selling them elsewhere.

HBO purchased some of my photos a few years ago on two separate occasions. Besides the magazines I wrote for and provided with these photos, HBO bought them. I was on an assignment for 4 days, it took me another 3 days to do the write ups and the photos HBO bought were already online at the time they purchased them.

The breakdown was something like this:

Two magazines (articles - 750 words each) $300
Photos for the mags - $100
One magazine - 300 words - $50
HBO - 1st time - $2400
HBO - 2nd time - $2000

Travel expenses - $600.

The total worked out to $4850, or nearly $5K and I was paid for the second set of photos by HBO within a year of the first. The entire project took me about a week and I went to Borneo, which was cool.

I can't do this for every assignment but this is why I don't want to spend time on sites that are content mills.

Even minus the $600 in expenses, the $4250 is 3-4 months of living expenses for some people. At the time it was 2 months for my family and I.

A 3000-word piece that yields $1500 might take 5 days, it might take a week. But that's 4 hours x 6 days or 24 hours + a couple hours of editing, so say 26 hours total. That works out to nearly $60 an hour.

I would be pitching ideas to magazines and newspapers. Also, don't fall for that BS that "we'll provide you with plenty of exposure" but at this time we are unable to pay. A profit making magazine that is unable to pay is full of it. Always get paid for your work. In the near future I'm doing a couple of projects. It costs money to live and to travel and to pay the expenses (food, lodging, bribes, etc.)...If I don't earn money, I can't do the projects, simple as that.
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Postby Ghost » Mon May 13, 2013 4:08 am

Sounds good if you're already established. I just started about 3 months ago though. I hadn't thought about pitching to magazines, except for online mags or humor sites, etc. like Cracked. But the content mills pay at least and that is why I have stuck with them so far. If a site is rev-share, "write it and we'll pay you if we like it," or anything but outright pay, then I avoid it.

I might try an article for Cracked or someplace similar just to see if it would work and if I can learn anything from it. But as an experiment only.
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Re: List of Freelance sites where you can make money online!

Postby Winston » Tue Aug 25, 2015 3:57 am

The travel site China Highlights is hiring writers, editors, translators and photographers. If anyone is interested, apply here:

http://www.chinahighlights.com/aboutus/online-freelance-writer.htm
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Re: List of Freelance sites where you can make money online!

Postby Winston » Sat Jul 23, 2016 10:14 pm

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Re: List of Freelance sites where you can make money online!

Postby starchild5 » Sun Jul 24, 2016 2:34 am

But, Winston Working for BBC would go against the morals of HA. BBC is out and out, the elites propaganda tool, even if one gets a job, the first article they could be made to write is, how HA is spreading lies and America really is the great place to live :) :) ..Just to test their loyalty...

Lonely Planet is owned by the Jew Brad Kelly, whose only purpose is to make look west great and show only the poor places in third world countries, aka maintain the status quo...Also, LP was owned by the BBC before he brought the company....

Here...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lonely_Planet

Lonely Planet is the largest travel guide book publisher in the world.[2] The company is owned by American billionaire Brad Kelley's[3] NC2 Media, which bought it in 2013 from BBC Worldwide for US$77 million (the equivalent of £45.5 million in May 2014) after it was valued at US$250 million in 2008.[4][5]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brad_M._Kelley

Brad Maurice Kelley (born 1956) is an American businessman who is the fourth-largest landowner in the U.S.,[1] with an estimated net worth of US$2.2 billion in 2015.[2] He founded the Commonwealth Brands tobacco company in 1991 and sold the company in 2001 to Houchens Industries for US$1 billion.[3] As of 2014, Kelley's business interests include Calumet Farm, NC2 Media (Lonely Planet) and the Center for Innovation and Technology business park.

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Its better to be homeless than work for these Evil Empire. I'm a third world guy and I compromised on not working for these low life's ....Its extremely hard and border line suicidal....NOT EASY but you will get to keep your soul and be nearer to god than ever.

I understand, they control like 90% of wealth and economy, so it would be impossible to make money without working for them.... :( :(

Its really sad what we humans are made to do just to survive...work for evil or else...deal... :| :|
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Re: List of Freelance sites where you can make money online!

Postby livefreeordie » Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:00 am

If I could add to this, use your local classified sites to find deals you can flip or occasionally suppliers for items to sell, especially if it comes to buying and selling used cars, which in my book is one of the best mobile businesses you can do virtually anywhere, its enjoyable, interesting and can be scaled up to bigger deals and profits i.e. sports/luxury cars

Permacultureglobal.com /Permaculture Australia once paid me up to $50 for an article, which i didnt really see as work more enjoyment, and they will pay $10-$15 even for a snippet and a good lead to an interesting story

On my best deal i made with cars was about $2000 with about 4-5 hours easy work. On another deal I made $700 with 4 hours work cleaning up the car. Sometimes you need to look outside the box to find the best ideas, don't follow the herd where there is too much competition.

The easy win of course is to go to your local bank website, and apply for unsecured finance, then use those funds to create your freedom and passive income. Change your name, settle the account with a small cash offer which they accept when they process your payment and accept your offer, etc
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