growup wrote: ↑August 18th, 2018, 4:59 pm
Winston wrote: ↑August 17th, 2018, 3:05 pm
@growup
You never answered my other question. How do you know you're not attracted to me if you never met me? Do you go by looks only? I thought women always claim that looks aren't a big factor to them? What about personality and soul?
Can you explain this: How come so many women claim that looks don't matter, yet they only date tall attractive men? How do you explain that discrepancy? You've noticed it too right? Many people are hypocrites. You can't deny that.
How big a factor are looks to you and your female friends? Have you ever dated any guys that were ugly or fat?
Also, when women reject men because they aren't their type, why do they always tell them that it's due to their lack of confidence? Confidence isn't going to make women fall in love with you. So why do they try to shame them like that with something false?
Also, do you believe in all this alpha male crap? Do you care if a man is alpha or not? That seems to exist only in the heads of PUA guys with no experience with women, and PUA literature. I don't know any woman that wants an alpha male specifically. Or that is drawn to power and money. Only gold diggers are drawn to power and money, but that is not love. A woman isn't going to love a man with power and money if she doesn't love him already.
Thanks.
I'm not attracted to your personality.
It has nothing to do with looks (although I'm not attracted to your looks either).
We're two very different people with two extremely different sets of values. For example, I'm extremely family oriented and it doesn't seem like you see your son a lot. That would never work for me.
I've dated overweight guys before...but I don't like the word ugly. Beauty is relative. You could look at a man a girl is dating and say "ugh, he's ugly" but he can be the most wonderful man in the world and to her that may be attractive.
EVERYBODY is a hypocrite. I am. You are. We all are.
Also, in another post you said something about me being politically correct. Nope. I just don't take things to extremes. I think anyone IS CAPABLE of just about anything personality wise. (white women having good conversation, etc). I'm not going to pigeonhole someone because of their race or talk in absolutes. That's just me.
I think, that in the beginning of a relationship, one may be drawn to the looks of one person vs. the looks of another, but eventually it's the personalities and value types that bring two people together in the end. Looks wise, my husband was not "my type" at all, but we've been married for over 12 years.
I've actually NEVER heard a woman say she wasn't attracted to a guy due to his lack of confidence. Lack of drive, maybe. Lack of ambition. Complete and total lack of personality, maybe.
My female friends?
Well, they have to be physically attracted to a guy at first, yes. Standards. Men have them and so can women.
I don't waste my time thinking about alpha males, nor do I know (or care) what PUA is. I think some women may be attracted to men who they believe can provide stability (not a mansion or whatever).
As far as money and gold digging goes, I'm the absolute wrong woman to ask about that. I've been working for most of the last 20something years. I work full time plus AND bring my children to work with me (because I homeschool). I've never dated a man for what he could give me.
Have a great day!
But growup, you don't even know my personality. Some forum members who have met me say that I am different in person than online. See here for example:
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=37521
Also, you can't really know someone until you meet them. Any wise person that knows something about online person will tell you that. Aren't you judging too fast?
The thing is, you probably dislike some of my views and opinions. But that doesn't make them false. I cite lots of examples and evidence to support all my claims and points. So at the very least you gotta admit that there is truth in all my points. Just because you don't like them, or they aren't politically correct, doesn't make them false. You understand what I mean? Too many Americans assume that the truth has to always be politically correct, but that's not true at all. Truth is often NOT politically correct. That's a big modern American fallacy.
Saying the truth and being honest are not dislikable traits, unless you are fake or living a lie. You agree?
As long as I am honest and I never lie, cheat or steal, there is no logical reason for you to dislike me or my personality, right?
Btw, an American woman with a big heart in Phoenix that has met me a few times and hosted me too from Couchsurfing, and knows me in person, had this to say about me when I asked her why shallow people dislike me for no reason:
Hi Wu,
You are a lovely human being.
You are all the things you say you are.
I think you are so smart and composed and
Calm that people cannot understand you.
I experience a lot of reverse racism myself.
I think you maybe look for validation or
needing more popularity ?
It’s overrated. Look for and cherish the
Few people who see deep inside you and
Can handle your intellect and love you for
Who you truly are. I know know after so many
Years there are VERY FEW true friends in this
World. Cling to them and cherish them.
Does that help?
Love Erin
So you see, I am very likable after all. People who know me in real life, including American females like yourself, will vouch for that.
I don't believe in extremes either, and I've said that clearly. But PATTERNS exist and you cannot deny them. Did you see the 9 examples I gave in that other thread about why white women tend to be the most intellectual out of all the races of women? Those 9 examples are obvious and easy to verify and check out. You can't deny them.
Yes we are all individuals, however BOTH individual difference and GROUP differences exist too. You can't deny one or the other. But the thing is, modern people like you and liberals tend to deny group differences, they only acknowledge individual differences. But that is wrong. BOTH differences exist. Don't you agree?
For example if you looked at a group of cats and a group of dogs, you'd see both individual differences within each group and group differences too. Do you understand what I mean?
By denying group differences, you are being politically correct even if you don't know it, because you are denying reality in order to be "polite and non-offensive" to others. See what I mean?
So YES, patterns and group differences exist, and there are countless examples of them. But you don't like to talk about them because they are offensive. I find that women in general do not like talking about group differences and even cultural differences. They seem blind to them. That is a pattern I noticed among women. Men easily see differences in groups, peoples and cultures, but women try to deny them or sugar coat them, or pretend to be blind to them altogether. I've seen this countless time and have had this conversation with women countless times too. More than you can imagine. Why?
Obviously the female mind and male mind are different. Men like to categorize things and put them in boxes and labels. But women like to say, "it depends on the person" as if no patterns exist. Funny how that is. But that's the pattern I see (no pun intended).
As to my son, why would I bring him up in this thread? It's not relevant to the discussion. First this thread was about Mercury and his stalking. Then I asked you a bunch of questions about gender equality, which you basically whitewashed and dodged politely. lol. But neither of those topics is related to my son. So why would I bring him up? There are other threads about my son if you want to see them. I even posted photos of him too.
But yes you are right. I am not a big family man. I can be sometimes for a while, but not everyday and not consistently. I will admit that. I am what I am. I don't pretend to be something I'm not. I am being myself. That's all.
Almost all American women tell me that their partners were not their type at first, but they grew to love him over time. lol. It's almost a cliche to say that. lol
Btw, do you have any original thoughts or ideas? Or do you just say what's popular and trendy and follow what other women say too? lol. Just wondering.
Anyway, I hope that helps you understand my position and view.
Thanks for replying to my annoying questions. lol