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Postby Winston » Tue Jun 21, 2011 3:37 pm

Where was she from? How did she turn your own family and parents against you? She must have had some serious charges or complaints to be able to turn your family against you. Usually families are subjective and always side with their own, regardless of who is right or wrong.

Women are insecure and easily corruptible I guess. That is sad. It means we cannot let them have too much power or money, lest they become cold-hearted monsters.
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Postby Fenix » Tue Jun 21, 2011 3:54 pm

manly5000, where do you live? If you want to have sex, you have to let go of this "sex is sacred" thing. Sex is sex. These other men are having sex left and right, but you haven't had it in 2 years because it is sacred and you need to find some princess or something.

Here is my advice:

See if your area has a swinger club. They have memberships that are usually $30 and these places are private unless you have a membership. These places are fun to be in because lots of horny ass women go there just to f**k. No strings attached. No buying drinks, no sucking up to her, etc. All you do is find her in the club, talk or you don't even have to talk to her, just ask her if she wants to go to a room and f**k. You are not paying her to have sex either. All you are doing is paying the entry fee for the swinger club. Many swinger clubs allow single men to enter and they even have singles night.
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Postby manly5000 » Tue Jun 21, 2011 3:57 pm

Winston - Yeah, usually. Not in this case though. She was from Jalisco, Mexico.

I had problems with my parents growing up. My mom was an alcoholic and a MEGA-feminist. She treated my dad like shit. As I became a teenager I got in arguments with them all the time and we didn't get along good at all. They treated me like something was wrong with me, tried to get me on ADD medicine, tried to get me to talk to shrinks (who said nothing was wrong with me), tried to do everything except acknowledge that they sucked at providing proper guidance to raising a young man.

Once I became an adult we ended up having a good relationship though. When my ex and I got together, we'd spend time with them quite often and this lasted all the way until things really went south in the marriage. I was standing up for my rights and for our marriage and getting into fights all the time with my ex and she went to my parents to be consoled and exaggerated a lot of shit to them. So I assume this triggered their memories of how bad of a relationship we had when I was a kid/teen and long story short they told her I was the bad guy and she was the good guy.

Any time I tried to explain my side of the situation to them they blew me off and wouldn't listen. To them my ex was this precious angel who did no wrong because NOBODY ELSE ever saw the evil, twisted side of her that I got to see on a regular basis. She was a two-faced lying snake (she actually was a compulsive liar) and did a great job convincing everyone that I was abusive and she was a pure innocent victim.

I got to read all sorts of nice email exchanges between them, talking about how awful I was, seeing that they were doing all sorts of stuff together, and oh, of course, that I was "turning my back on my family"! Right, because a person who tries every god damn thing they can possibly think of to convince their wife to stay in the marriage and make it work is turning their back on them... for f**k sake.

So yeah. She told me one thing and them another all the time. They wound up "taking her in" and deserting me altogether. Except of course when they'd send me an email or leave a nasty message on my phone telling me to "get over my issues".

To this day she still goes to family events even though we're divorced and I'm not there. She goes to my ex-sister's house to have dinner with my ex-parents and ex-brother in law along with my ex-niece, ("Mommy, how come Aunt so-and-so is here but not Uncle-so-and-so?")

They completely replaced me with her. They deserted and backstabbed me in every way possible during my darkest time, and I will never, EVER, forgive them for it or associate with them ever again. No matter what.


Yet another reason why I MUST move to wherever my future love is from. It's the only chance I'll ever have to actually have a FAMILY again. Her family.
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Postby manly5000 » Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:06 pm

I've tried to let go of the "sex is sacred" thing. I really honestly have. But I just can't. Sex will always mean something to me and that's something I can't help.

A lot of my coworkers think I must be swimming in p***y due to my attitude and physique, but I'm not. Even if I could have a different chick every week, I couldn't bring myself to do it. My sense of faithfulness and loyalty is far too great.
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Postby E_Irizarry » Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:33 pm

Phoenix Sosa wrote:manly5000, where do you live? If you want to have sex, you have to let go of this "sex is sacred" thing. Sex is sex. These other men are having sex left and right, but you haven't had it in 2 years because it is sacred and you need to find some princess or something.

Here is my advice:

See if your area has a swinger club. They have memberships that are usually $30 and these places are private unless you have a membership. These places are fun to be in because lots of horny ass women go there just to f**k. No strings attached. No buying drinks, no sucking up to her, etc. All you do is find her in the club, talk or you don't even have to talk to her, just ask her if she wants to go to a room and f**k. You are not paying her to have sex either. All you are doing is paying the entry fee for the swinger club. Many swinger clubs allow single men to enter and they even have singles night.


@manly5K,

Avoid the nigger-loving women whom are at the swinger clubs. THey may turn you down anyway because they are looking for a Frank Ocean or a J. Holiday or a Terry Crews/Ving Rhames big Black man to "knock it down".

@P-Sosa,

You understand your environment when it comes to where to get ass for the least amount of narcissism from American women. (dapz).
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Postby E_Irizarry » Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:41 pm

manly5000 wrote:Winston - Yeah, usually. Not in this case though. She was from Jalisco, Mexico.

I had problems with my parents growing up. My mom was an alcoholic and a MEGA-feminist. She treated my dad like shit. As I became a teenager I got in arguments with them all the time and we didn't get along good at all. They treated me like something was wrong with me, tried to get me on ADD medicine, tried to get me to talk to shrinks (who said nothing was wrong with me), tried to do everything except acknowledge that they sucked at providing proper guidance to raising a young man.

Once I became an adult we ended up having a good relationship though. When my ex and I got together, we'd spend time with them quite often and this lasted all the way until things really went south in the marriage. I was standing up for my rights and for our marriage and getting into fights all the time with my ex and she went to my parents to be consoled and exaggerated a lot of shit to them. So I assume this triggered their memories of how bad of a relationship we had when I was a kid/teen and long story short they told her I was the bad guy and she was the good guy.

Any time I tried to explain my side of the situation to them they blew me off and wouldn't listen. To them my ex was this precious angel who did no wrong because NOBODY ELSE ever saw the evil, twisted side of her that I got to see on a regular basis. She was a two-faced lying snake (she actually was a compulsive liar) and did a great job convincing everyone that I was abusive and she was a pure innocent victim.

I got to read all sorts of nice email exchanges between them, talking about how awful I was, seeing that they were doing all sorts of stuff together, and oh, of course, that I was "turning my back on my family"! Right, because a person who tries every god damn thing they can possibly think of to convince their wife to stay in the marriage and make it work is turning their back on them... for f**k sake.

So yeah. She told me one thing and them another all the time. They wound up "taking her in" and deserting me altogether. Except of course when they'd send me an email or leave a nasty message on my phone telling me to "get over my issues".

To this day she still goes to family events even though we're divorced and I'm not there. She goes to my ex-sister's house to have dinner with my ex-parents and ex-brother in law along with my ex-niece, ("Mommy, how come Aunt so-and-so is here but not Uncle-so-and-so?")

They completely replaced me with her. They deserted and backstabbed me in every way possible during my darkest time, and I will never, EVER, forgive them for it or associate with them ever again. No matter what.


Yet another reason why I MUST move to wherever my future love is from. It's the only chance I'll ever have to actually have a FAMILY again. Her family.


That`s awful as hell! Damn, you have a similar background to how my family had written me off (and that I have never been married nor had an ex been taken in by "family", but I am empathetic to your situation there), except that they never tried to get me on medication. I wasn't able to speak any language until I was 8 years old after the system had been drilling Special-Ed/BOCES ed up my culo all day every day.

YOu remain strong, and absolve yourself away from their demise for forever and a day. My "father" via proxy of my sister tried to reconcile with me because now he's at the crest part of the sin-wave of his life. He's looking for anybody whom wants to help him deal with his demise, too. Ha! I laugh! I graciously and via proxy told my sister that he could have helped me return from Brasil when I had ran out of money there. What had he done instead? He had told me BEHIND MY BACK to a phone conversation back in '09 to my sister that "your brother is a grown-ass man. He has to work his OWN problems out". That's just whoa to me. But the roosters are coming home on him though. Godspeed to that. *A toast, my fellow mens*
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Postby ladislav » Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:53 pm

Meet your double. Very obssessed with sex, very horny, could not get any for years. Left the US, went to other f***ed up countries like Puerto Rico and Japan, but eventually ended up in Thailand and the Philippines. Now, 300+ women later- I mean it, and at 51, I have trouble getting it up or even thinking about sex. I am next to go go bars and thousands of girls but when you can get it any time you want, you don't need it as much. I guess that is what they call - getting it out of your system.

Anyway, google "worldsexguide" as well as "single male travel". Your best bet right now could be Costa Rica or Colombia. Get laid with a few tens of women first.
Also, you may want to check out places in Mexico in the same guide.
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Re: Okay guys, having a problem and need advice.

Postby The_Hero_of_Men » Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:55 pm

manly5000 wrote:Guys,

As time goes on, it's getting more and more difficult for me to deal with having no sex life whatsoever. I'm caught in this dilemma of NEEDING sex really really badly since my body is just teeming with Testosterone and I have a high sex drive, yet my future plans, morals, and concerns prevent me from going out here in the USA and trying to get laid.

Herein lies the problem... to put it bluntly, my plan is to relocate to another country in a few years, whenever I get the funds or ability to generate passive income set for me. There I want to meet a quality girl who hasn't slept around, enter a committed relationship with her, and "live happily ever after". However, a few years is a long goddamn time!

It's been 2 years now since I last had sex, and that was with my now ex-wife before the bottom fell out for good on our marriage. She was only the 2nd girl I had sex with in my life (though I did fool around with a few other girlfriends growing up) because that is the person I was, and to a large extent, still am. I've never been one for hookups and absolutely HATE the hookup culture that perverts the United States. And this might make you laugh, but I'm not religious and am actually atheist (though I want to pursue Ch'an/Zen Buddhism) so these morals just naturally come from within me.

But as time goes on here, lack of having any kind of sexual life whatsoever is literally KILLING me. After having consistent sex during my marriage over a span of 12 years, going without it altogether is proving to be more than I can take. Fapping sucks, fleshlights suck, porn sucks. Maybe a quality silicone doll would add some temporary spice but I'm not dropping thousands of dollars on one that could be used to save for my journey.


Now to the meat of my concerns... if I really wanted to I could probably get laid, but here are the problems I have with this --

1) I absolutely HATE what women in the USA have become. I mean HATE! Their attitude, their morals, their pure relentless arrogance! I tend to get rejected almost all the time when I approach and so every time I did I'd be feeding the disgusting, mutated, overblown egos that these... creatures... possess. Thus, I'd just be propagating the cycle of madness in doing so, directly contributing to the problem with Western Women.

2) I am extremely concerned about the outbreak and plague of false accusations and false rape charges that runs rampant in the USA. I seriously don't know how so many guys do it, how they have sex with so many different women here without running into this problem. It seems like you're just asking for trouble by having anything to do with even ONE AW, let alone dozens (or hundreds!).

3) American society is ripe with STD's of all kinds, especially Herpes and HPV. People grind and make out with people that they just met right then and there on the dance floor, any wonder why 1 in 4 have the Herp and up to 80+ percent will get it by the time they die? I am completely STD free and am PARANOID beyond comprehense of getting infected. This disgusting hookup culture has spread so much filth that getting together with ANY American woman is akin to playing russian roulette with half the chambers loaded.

4) Pregnancy. Pure and simple. So many of these skanks out there will try to trap a man like this. Again, how the hell can all these players have sex with hundreds of different women and not get screwed over like this? Knowing my luck the first girl I tried to hookup with would find a way to do this to me.

5) I feel that I would be doing a disservice to my future love by hooking up with randoms and putting notches on my belt.


Now I know many of you would tell me to just hire an escort to avoid these problems, but P4P is not my thing. I need an emotional connection to someone if I'm going to have sex. I'm the last of a dying breed who thinks sex should be at least SOMEWHAT sacred and not something you just give to someone like shaking their hand. So at any rate the escort/P4P thing is out of the question. Besides, the few hundred a pop I'd have to spend on an escort would take away from saving for my journey.


I guess what I'm wondering is, have any of you guys gone through this kind of situation? How the hell can I ease the pain of NEEDING sex so bad but being completely unable to get it in this environment? I don't want to take trips to other countries until it's time to choose one to move to because I am struggling to make money and can't blow it on 2-week vacations, not if I EVER want to have a nestegg saved up that would give me at least a chance to try to make my move.

EVERYWHERE I LOOK sex is RIGHT IN MY FACE and I'm tired of it! On the radio all they ever talk about on these morning shows is SEX SEX SEX HOOKUP SEX BJ'S SEX HOOKUPS just like on TV, just like out at clubs, just like EVERYWHERE in this toxic society. Everyone else in the world is having sex except for me and they do everything in their power to ram it down my throat incessantly. For a guy like me who gets NO sex WHATSOEVER it is truly maddening. I feel like one of these days I'm just going to lose it completely and turn into a vegetable.

What the hell can I do to ease this pain and keep trying to set up my future dreams? I'm out of ideas and this pain has become unbearable.

Thanks guys.


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Postby Adama » Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:40 am

I like the Ladislav route a little. There is a major downside though, which Ladislav himself alluded to. That is, if you sleep with that many women (I'd imagine it must be more than 300 in that many years), then when or if you finally want a monogamous relationship with a woman (for possible children), you may have ruined your ability to get aroused by her. That'd make both of you deeply unhappy.

That route though, is something I was working towards myself until the elites crashed our global economy. Plan was to move to South Florida and fly to Colombia once a month or so to get my fill. Now unfortunately I am lucky to have any job at all, and there's no way I could ever move because of the difficulty of obtaining a new position.
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Postby Adama » Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:42 am

Phoenix Sosa wrote:manly5000, where do you live? If you want to have sex, you have to let go of this "sex is sacred" thing. Sex is sex. These other men are having sex left and right, but you haven't had it in 2 years because it is sacred and you need to find some princess or something.

Here is my advice:

See if your area has a swinger club. They have memberships that are usually $30 and these places are private unless you have a membership. These places are fun to be in because lots of horny ass women go there just to f**k. No strings attached. No buying drinks, no sucking up to her, etc. All you do is find her in the club, talk or you don't even have to talk to her, just ask her if she wants to go to a room and f**k. You are not paying her to have sex either. All you are doing is paying the entry fee for the swinger club. Many swinger clubs allow single men to enter and they even have singles night.


Aren't they full of 50 year old women? And when they aren't, dont they usually have rules against men who dont bring their own women to share?
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Postby Adama » Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:47 am

manly5000 wrote:Well the main thing stopping me financially is the fact I'm paying off the rest of my post-divorce credit card debt. I can't blow $1500 because I need to pay this blasted debt that's been eating away at me for years.

What I really want is to find some way to put sex out of my mind altogether right now because I can't even force myself to try P4P or random hookups. The desire to have an actual partner is too great and my morals get in the way.

If I did Mexico it would be to find a partner and I would have to move there. America RUINED my ex wife. I mean RUINED her. She was the sweetest, most innocent girl you ever met when we first got together. Was an illegal and was basically a slave (nanny) for the woman's family who brought her to the states. I rescued her from her predicament and we got married, I got her legalized, and eventually she started working. Over time she started to seriously change for the worse... She became this stubborn witch who criticized everything, expected me to do everything according to her timetable and whim, and treated me like some kind of employee or subordinate instead of her husband. All she cared about was her career and her friends from work, and things REALLY turned to shit after she became a supervisor.

In the beginning of our marriage she would say, "All I want is to be with you, no matter what, I don't care how poor we are or where our life goes. Love is all that matters. Love is the true foundation of a relationship. Please don't ever leave me."

At the end, she'd say, "I don't care what you do to please me, I don't want to be with you any more. You won't stick with one career and I believe that financial security is the true foundation of a relationship. Get lost."

No joke.

So yeah, Mexico has been a little tainted in my eyes. But regardless, that is why I MUST move to another country and live with a girl there if I'm ever to have a lifelong, happy marriage. I already did the "bring a foreign girl here" thing basically (even though she was already here when we met) and it resulted in me losing my ENTIRE FAMILY. We didn't have kids, but she turned my very own parents, sister, and extended family against me. She destroyed my life and kicked me out of hers completely.

Sorry to ramble but thinking about Mexico brings all these bad memories back.


You gave her too much freedom. That isnt the egalitarian thing for me to say, but it's true. The culture corropted her (if she wasnt only putting on a show for you initially). TV, AWs at work, men chasing after them can ruin a weaker woman's mind quite quickly.

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Postby Fenix » Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:31 am

Adama wrote:
Phoenix Sosa wrote:manly5000, where do you live? If you want to have sex, you have to let go of this "sex is sacred" thing. Sex is sex. These other men are having sex left and right, but you haven't had it in 2 years because it is sacred and you need to find some princess or something.

Here is my advice:

See if your area has a swinger club. They have memberships that are usually $30 and these places are private unless you have a membership. These places are fun to be in because lots of horny ass women go there just to f**k. No strings attached. No buying drinks, no sucking up to her, etc. All you do is find her in the club, talk or you don't even have to talk to her, just ask her if she wants to go to a room and f**k. You are not paying her to have sex either. All you are doing is paying the entry fee for the swinger club. Many swinger clubs allow single men to enter and they even have singles night.


Aren't they full of 50 year old women? And when they aren't, dont they usually have rules against men who dont bring their own women to share?


No, women are between 21-30. Singles are allowed to go to the club everyday. The one I go to is the bomb. I have never seen a fossil in this club. I haven't been in months though.
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Re: Okay guys, having a problem and need advice.

Postby The Arab » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:16 am

manly5000 wrote:Guys,

As time goes on, it's getting more and more difficult for me to deal with having no sex life whatsoever. I'm caught in this dilemma of NEEDING sex really really badly since my body is just teeming with Testosterone and I have a high sex drive, yet my future plans, morals, and concerns prevent me from going out here in the USA and trying to get laid.

Herein lies the problem... to put it bluntly, my plan is to relocate to another country in a few years, whenever I get the funds or ability to generate passive income set for me. There I want to meet a quality girl who hasn't slept around, enter a committed relationship with her, and "live happily ever after". However, a few years is a long goddamn time!

It's been 2 years now since I last had sex, and that was with my now ex-wife before the bottom fell out for good on our marriage. She was only the 2nd girl I had sex with in my life (though I did fool around with a few other girlfriends growing up) because that is the person I was, and to a large extent, still am. I've never been one for hookups and absolutely HATE the hookup culture that perverts the United States. And this might make you laugh, but I'm not religious and am actually atheist (though I want to pursue Ch'an/Zen Buddhism) so these morals just naturally come from within me.

But as time goes on here, lack of having any kind of sexual life whatsoever is literally KILLING me. After having consistent sex during my marriage over a span of 12 years, going without it altogether is proving to be more than I can take. Fapping sucks, fleshlights suck, porn sucks. Maybe a quality silicone doll would add some temporary spice but I'm not dropping thousands of dollars on one that could be used to save for my journey.


Now to the meat of my concerns... if I really wanted to I could probably get laid, but here are the problems I have with this --

1) I absolutely HATE what women in the USA have become. I mean HATE! Their attitude, their morals, their pure relentless arrogance! I tend to get rejected almost all the time when I approach and so every time I did I'd be feeding the disgusting, mutated, overblown egos that these... creatures... possess. Thus, I'd just be propagating the cycle of madness in doing so, directly contributing to the problem with Western Women.

2) I am extremely concerned about the outbreak and plague of false accusations and false rape charges that runs rampant in the USA. I seriously don't know how so many guys do it, how they have sex with so many different women here without running into this problem. It seems like you're just asking for trouble by having anything to do with even ONE AW, let alone dozens (or hundreds!).

3) American society is ripe with STD's of all kinds, especially Herpes and HPV. People grind and make out with people that they just met right then and there on the dance floor, any wonder why 1 in 4 have the Herp and up to 80+ percent will get it by the time they die? I am completely STD free and am PARANOID beyond comprehense of getting infected. This disgusting hookup culture has spread so much filth that getting together with ANY American woman is akin to playing russian roulette with half the chambers loaded.

4) Pregnancy. Pure and simple. So many of these skanks out there will try to trap a man like this. Again, how the hell can all these players have sex with hundreds of different women and not get screwed over like this? Knowing my luck the first girl I tried to hookup with would find a way to do this to me.

5) I feel that I would be doing a disservice to my future love by hooking up with randoms and putting notches on my belt.


Now I know many of you would tell me to just hire an escort to avoid these problems, but P4P is not my thing. I need an emotional connection to someone if I'm going to have sex. I'm the last of a dying breed who thinks sex should be at least SOMEWHAT sacred and not something you just give to someone like shaking their hand. So at any rate the escort/P4P thing is out of the question. Besides, the few hundred a pop I'd have to spend on an escort would take away from saving for my journey.


I guess what I'm wondering is, have any of you guys gone through this kind of situation? How the hell can I ease the pain of NEEDING sex so bad but being completely unable to get it in this environment? I don't want to take trips to other countries until it's time to choose one to move to because I am struggling to make money and can't blow it on 2-week vacations, not if I EVER want to have a nestegg saved up that would give me at least a chance to try to make my move.

EVERYWHERE I LOOK sex is RIGHT IN MY FACE and I'm tired of it! On the radio all they ever talk about on these morning shows is SEX SEX SEX HOOKUP SEX BJ'S SEX HOOKUPS just like on TV, just like out at clubs, just like EVERYWHERE in this toxic society. Everyone else in the world is having sex except for me and they do everything in their power to ram it down my throat incessantly. For a guy like me who gets NO sex WHATSOEVER it is truly maddening. I feel like one of these days I'm just going to lose it completely and turn into a vegetable.

What the hell can I do to ease this pain and keep trying to set up my future dreams? I'm out of ideas and this pain has become unbearable.

Thanks guys.


Bro, just make an account at Mamba.ru and chat with Russian girls who are in the U.S. and your area.

Not only are these girls sweet and refreshingly feminine and interesting, they're the best lays of the white race. I was pounding this girl doggy style and nutted in her, then she turned around and asked me sweetly to do it in her ass. The look in her eyes and her voice just got me a rock hard boner real quick and just pounded way in her ass like there was no tomorrow and the future of the human race depended on it. Best sex ever, bar none. It's so easy to talk to them and get to know them. They've sent me their photos via email, given me their numbers, I talked to them in real life and met (and slept) with many of them.

You will not get that with American girls ... I tried an experiment with Plentyoffish, and got almost no responses at all, and when I did, it was from ugly chicks - and I'm a tall and handsome guy. On Mamba.ru, I chatted and went to base with so many girls I'm literally overwhelmed with dealing with all these girls. I literally have to schedule it with the interest i'm getting , and just so many girls who are open to meeting.
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Postby manly5000 » Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:22 pm

Thanks for the input guys.

Arab -- Do any of those women speak english? They all seem to be on the east and west coast too, wish there was a way to seach by state so I can see if any are in/near Michigan.
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Postby E_Irizarry » Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:01 pm

Phoenix Sosa wrote:
Adama wrote:
Phoenix Sosa wrote:manly5000, where do you live? If you want to have sex, you have to let go of this "sex is sacred" thing. Sex is sex. These other men are having sex left and right, but you haven't had it in 2 years because it is sacred and you need to find some princess or something.

Here is my advice:

See if your area has a swinger club. They have memberships that are usually $30 and these places are private unless you have a membership. These places are fun to be in because lots of horny ass women go there just to f**k. No strings attached. No buying drinks, no sucking up to her, etc. All you do is find her in the club, talk or you don't even have to talk to her, just ask her if she wants to go to a room and f**k. You are not paying her to have sex either. All you are doing is paying the entry fee for the swinger club. Many swinger clubs allow single men to enter and they even have singles night.


Aren't they full of 50 year old women? And when they aren't, dont they usually have rules against men who dont bring their own women to share?


No, women are between 21-30. Singles are allowed to go to the club everyday. The one I go to is the bomb. I have never seen a fossil in this club. I haven't been in months though.


I will use that term in lieu of "cougar"...."fossil" LOL Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice! LOL
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