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Postby odbo » Mon Aug 22, 2011 2:10 am

I think we've all noticed since we were young that black Americans tended to be skeptical of the government and especially the police. While white Americans tended to believe the government loves them and always knows whats best, and cops are "heroes". A considerable portion of the black population not being completely mind controlled sheeple, instead being only partly mind controlled sheeple, (this is sometimes called the "conscious black community"), is probably why there are so many black members on this forum.

But most people in America would never even consider of leaving this country, and sadly most of the black population falls into this, IF NOT MORE SO! So how does this paradox work? Black America both loves and hates America, and would never think of leaving. Even homeless black people tell me "America is the greatest nation on earth" and would sooner starve than consider moving, even if they had a free plane ticket. Can you explain that one to me.. and what made you different?


And don't miss this Dj Hive's production called "Daniel" about "DANs" (dumb ass niggers):
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCsU2Yun6nM[/youtube]
*the actual "episode" ^ starts at 2:00


part 2
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUNNiduP5wo[/youtube]
Has Obama single handedly undermined the pocket of resistance to the government that was the disgruntled black population?
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Postby ErikHeaven » Mon Aug 22, 2011 12:57 pm

Its all tied up in Religion. As you already know Christianity and Black American Christianity is all mixed with American patriotism. This is the reason why so many Negroes have no desire to leave. They are brainwashed to believe from the cradle to the grave that America aka white America are the prophets of god and Jehovah and Jesus are white people as well.
My mother is a Jehovah's Witness and all the bible characters are white so years of the brainwashing makes one think that white people superior.
Anyway she and her husband moved out the country last week for good in South America as the cost of living is way cheaper there.
I think only the few such as myself can get out of the matrix mentally. It has to be something in the DNA.
The so-called Conscious black are the leader class and everybody else are the led.
I woke up out of the matrix when i was very young. I started asking my mother why are all the bible figures painted white when in that area and time there should not have been any white people? She would not answer my questions.
So yes the bulk of my people are stupid and i do not see any future for them as they love their oppressor more than they love themselves.
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Postby ErikHeaven » Mon Aug 22, 2011 1:27 pm

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Postby E_Irizarry » Mon Aug 22, 2011 1:31 pm

ErikHeaven wrote:Its all tied up in Religion. As you already know Christianity and Black American Christianity is all mixed with American patriotism. This is the reason why so many Negroes have no desire to leave. They are brainwashed to believe from the cradle to the grave that America aka white America are the prophets of god and Jehovah and Jesus are white people as well.
My mother is a Jehovah's Witness and all the bible characters are white so years of the brainwashing makes one think that white people superior.
Anyway she and her husband moved out the country last week for good in South America as the cost of living is way cheaper there.
I think only the few such as myself can get out of the matrix mentally. It has to be something in the DNA.
The so-called Conscious black are the leader class and everybody else are the led.
I woke up out of the matrix when i was very young. I started asking my mother why are all the bible figures painted white when in that area and time there should not have been any white people? She would not answer my questions.
So yes the bulk of my people are stupid and i do not see any future for them as they love their oppressor more than they love themselves.


Wait wait wait. Your moms and her husband (not your father) had moved to S. America just last week??

1) Why had they left?

2) Where had they relocated themselves to?
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Postby ladislav » Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:01 pm

Another reason is that many black people have a distorted view of the outside world, even more so than whites. They think in Africa people live in mud huts and in trees. African students in the US get mistreated by black people the worst and they have told me that it is very hard for them to make friends with them because US blacks are contemptuous of or hostile to them.

They think in Europe all the people are called "whites", too, and are racists, and they do not see the difference between a European and a white American.

In other words, for the majority it is insularism and provincialism. Their world is small and their understanding is colored ( no pun intended) by past experience in the US, and thus they have a very narrow and myopic view of it. Add to it that geography is an elective in the US, and you've got a very dull situation on your hands.

I remember a Cajun guy, admittedly not a real black person, and he was a teacher and we were talking about Russia once and I'd found out that, he, for years had been convinced that the Russians were just like the White Anglo Saxons and that the country was divided into white Russians and black Russians.

The only black guys I knew who were really open were the ones who had been in the army and traveled around and went to Europe and actually saw that the Germans and the French and the Danes treated them like human beings and were mainly thinking of them as just Americans. They came back totally changed.

The same happened to Malcolm X when he went to Saudi- he met Muslims from around the world and they were not segregated by color and they were treating him like a brother. That he was a Muslim and his ethnic identity was...American.

Travel opens eyes.
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Re: Question to negro members

Postby Contrarian Expatriate » Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:04 pm

odbo wrote:I think we've all noticed since we were young that black Americans tended to be skeptical of the government and especially the police. While white Americans tended to believe the government loves them and always knows whats best, and cops are "heroes". A considerable portion of the black population not being completely mind controlled sheeple, instead being only partly mind controlled sheeple, (this is sometimes called the "conscious black community"), is probably why there are so many black members on this forum.

But most people in America would never even consider of leaving this country, and sadly most of the black population falls into this, IF NOT MORE SO! So how does this paradox work? Black America both loves and hates America, and would never think of leaving. Even homeless black people tell me "America is the greatest nation on earth" and would sooner starve than consider moving, even if they had a free plane ticket. Can you explain that one to me.. and what made you different?

Has Obama single handedly undermined the pocket of resistance to the government that was the disgruntled black population?


Several of your premises are FALSE and smack of collectivism. That is not a good thing.

First, Black Americans tend to be the LEAST skeptical of the federal government and they therefore expect government to provide for them and protect them more than most. This is based on the history of the federal government during the civil rights movement against the southern states. The New Deal era and the Civil War also contributed to that thinking. Moreover, those most skeptical and distrustful of government tend to be white. What do you think the Tea Party mantra is all about? Tea party members are overwhelmingly white.

Second, Black America does not both love and hate America. There are some blacks that hate America, some that love it, and some that are indifferent which is no different than any other group, but to portray blacks as having a love/hate relationship with the US is false. Don't project your ambivalence as characteristic of all black people in this country. Most Black Americans do not consider leaving the US out of ignorance of other countries and the belief that they do not have the means to finance such an expatriation.

Opinion undifferentiated from fact is a sign of ignorance. Don't fall into that trap.
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Re: Question to negro members

Postby OutWest » Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:09 pm

odbo wrote:I think we've all noticed since we were young that black Americans tended to be skeptical of the government and especially the police. While white Americans tended to believe the government loves them and always knows whats best, and cops are "heroes". A considerable portion of the black population not being completely mind controlled sheeple, instead being only partly mind controlled sheeple, (this is sometimes called the "conscious black community"), is probably why there are so many black members on this forum.

But most people in America would never even consider of leaving this country, and sadly most of the black population falls into this, IF NOT MORE SO! So how does this paradox work? Black America both loves and hates America, and would never think of leaving. Even homeless black people tell me "America is the greatest nation on earth" and would sooner starve than consider moving, even if they had a free plane ticket. Can you explain that one to me.. and what made you different?


And don't miss this Dj Hive's production called "Daniel" about "DANs" (dumb ass niggers):
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCsU2Yun6nM[/youtube]
*the actual "episode" ^ starts at 2:00


part 2
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUNNiduP5wo[/youtube]
Has Obama single handedly undermined the pocket of resistance to the government that was the disgruntled black population?



>>>"While white Americans tended to believe the government loves them and always knows whats best..."

What part of the USA do you live in? I just spent 3 months back in the US, in the west coast mostly, and did not meet a single person of any color that
believed that stereotype. Zogby and Rasmussen polls indicate quite the opposite, that there is extreme RECORD high anger and mistrust directed
at government (A good thing!) . If I polled whites with that statement today, I doubt I could find 1 in 20 that would agree.

Generally, those getting goodies from government are the most agreeable to it. Especially those who are getting reamed in the ass to pay for all of this BS,
are especially angry.

my 2 cents worth...

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Postby ErikHeaven » Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:28 pm

My parents moved to Panama and i am going to visit them soon. They moved to save money on retirement. Its way cheaper there. I might move there myself when i am ready for retirement.
And yes we have pockets that hate America as they are hard core Black Nationalists and we have those who love her as they love the benefits.
I hate America as it is so corrupt and has absolutely nothing to offer me.
And yes the new terror suspect is the white male as he will shoot people the Black Nationalists just talk shit.
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Postby Fenix » Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:40 pm

My family is not ghetto per se, but they are a little loud. There was a lot of wisdom to be learned when I was a little kid. My personality is very laid back and relaxed. I am an observer so I watched my uncles, aunts, grandma, etc. talk all of the time. I never liked children's books except the "Bernstien Bears" and "Clifford." The books I read as a kid were the Encyclopedia Britannica, the Dictionary, astronomy books, astronaut books (I wanted to be an astronaut), dinosaur books, extinct animals, history and science books. I was interested in learning. I loved spelling. I never thought it was bad to speak proper English. My family spoke the whole "fo sho," "sho is," "I'm finna go," etc.

I used to talk like that as a kid too, but I was smart enough to recognize I was speaking stupidly. I always wanted to be different. My clothes are all navy/midnight blue. I don't care who talks shit about it. Speaking proper English wasn't a problem until I hit 11th grade and all of these blacks were speaking Ebonics. I never noticed it and it made me angry. I didn't think there was anything was wrong with speaking your language correctly. I was beginning to be talked about a lot because of this. When 9/11 happened, I was at home from school and I knew something was up. I never really liked America. I have never been patriotic. I hate the natonal anthem, "America, the Beautiful," "Stars and Stripes Forever," "Amazing Grace," etc. I hate all of that bullshit.

I put my left hand on my heart when you have to stand up for the national anthem. Me being atheist...I knew something wasn't right when I was a kid. My grandma died in 1992 and I had a dream about her hours before she died. I knew she was dead already. All I heard was my mom and aunt yelling, "mama, wake up!" I already knew she was dead once I went back to sleep when I dreamed about her. After that, I stopped going to church. I stayed with my uncle on Sundays watching wrestling.

My mom went to a new church and she wanted me to go so I was forced to go. 1994 was the last time I was actively in the church. I would say I was agnostic when I was a kid until 2004 when I had a long day thinking about what I was going to do. Do you believe in God or not? September 2004, I officially became an atheist and the weight was lifted off of my shoulders. All of the double life living and the lies I told (yeah, I am a Christian but I am not even religious).

I woke up a long, long time ago. I just never really thought about moving overseas...until I saw a legendary site called nomarriage.com in the summer of 2006. I was always fascinated in Colombia so I was like, "hmm, maybe I should think about this?" Maybe I should move to another country because I f***ing hate America, what it stands for and this toxic society. Since 2006, I have been planning my new destination.

When people meet me, they are totally surprised because of the way I look. I look evil, mean, like a "gangster convict (Winston, you poor boy)." When they talk to me or spend time with me, they get a glimpse of who I am. I am the way a black person is supposed to be like. That's probably why many blacks especially black women don't like me very much. I am too alternative. I see Canadian blacks and British blacks and I am like, "what? how come blacks in America aren't like this?" I am the opposite of blacks you see and hate. I am laid back, a thinker, hate noise, etc. I hate to yell opposed to the blacks you see that are rude, obnoxious, attitude issues, etc. I hate those traits and that is probably why I hate being around blacks. I am more comfortable with whites and Latinos.

I am nice, polite, courteous, generous, friendly, etc. I knew when I was a kid that being like this was the best way to act. I am also not a pushover and I don't take anyone's shit. I knew from an early age that drinking, smoking, doing drugs was wrong and I have never done any of those activities and never will. I have never been arrested or been to jail. I am clean as a whistle and I am proud because there are so many things that can influence you to be a bad person. I find it easy to be a good person. Americans, blacks especially have a hard time being good. It's easy to be bad.

Anyway, I only had one problem with the police in 2002 when they thought I was a crime suspect. I never had any problems racially or with cops. I knew the government was f***ed up when I was a teenager. I wrote rap lyrics when I was 13 (still do now on occasion) and I knew something wasn't right. I researched the Illuminati in 8th grade (1998) and I researched other things. I knew something wasn't quite right.

Blacks are no different than whites as far as being ignorant to other cultures. We are brainwashed to think America is it. America is the greatest nation/country on Earth or the world. The only countries that exist out of America to Americans are Australia, Great Britain, and Canada. Honorable mentions include China, Japan, Mexico and maybe some Central American countries and Brazil. That's why we have these stories about Nigerians living in huts and they hunt lions for dinner and they should know that many African countries are very modernized.

I would say the main reason why so many blacks are on this forum is because we are intelligent. You have to have intelligence to realize American life is a scam. Everything around you is an illusion. No, your senator is not going to change shit. No, the president is not taking the troops out of the "Middle East." What do they do? They still believe this shit. Even when you show them or tell them this they won't believe it. I blame it on religion (Christianity). People want to believe there is going to be salvation. John McCain is going to do this and that. Barack Obama is going to lower taxes. We are going to get better healthcare. No we are not. Do you know why most of these movements are no small in size? The majority of the people that haven't woke up won't.

When 9/11 happened, did I all of a sudden begin to hate Arabs or Muslims? Hell no. I love everyone. I don't give a shit what you look like or what your lifestyle is. Those 11 people or what not that attacked the WTC were retarded, I am not blaming millions of Arabian people for that. Americans think like this though. Americans are the best at generalizing. I was looking at a porn forum yesterday and one of my favorite porn stars said the reason why she won't f**k a black guy is because her first boyfriend was black and he gave her an STD at age 13. So, all blacks have STDs? I looked on Craigshitlist for a place to stay once and the Latina told me, "Oh, I thought you were white. I had an abusive black husband so you can't live here." So all black men are abusive? Just some examples.

No offense to boycottamericanwomen, but movements like that make me laugh. Yeah, a few 1000 of us will "boycott" but the majority won't and they are not going to believe you. The ones that can't get dates won't listen and they are your main targets. The men that can get dates easily will laugh in your face. This is why the MRA won't survive. People are in comas and they are not going to wake up. They are going to die.

Sorry for the novel. I know I am off topic a little. This is just me explaining how I am different from other blacks.
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Postby Winston » Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:52 pm

I always thought that the reason why so many blacks can relate to this movement, and to me in general, is because they know what it's like to be oppressed and can sympathize with us.

Plus, when you are oppressed, you look deeper for answers and learn to think outside the box, and thus are open to new ideas and truthful information that runs against the mainstream.

Also, blacks seem very down to earth, laid back, and genuine, and so seem more likely to accept things as they really are, with no BS, and hence would see the truth in this movement more readily.

That's my take on it.
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Re: Question to negro members

Postby NorthAmericanguy » Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:20 am

odbo wrote:I think we've all noticed since we were young that black Americans tended to be skeptical of the government and especially the police. While white Americans tended to believe the government loves them and always knows whats best, and cops are "heroes". A considerable portion of the black population not being completely mind controlled sheeple, instead being only partly mind controlled sheeple, (this is sometimes called the "conscious black community"), is probably why there are so many black members on this forum.

But most people in America would never even consider of leaving this country, and sadly most of the black population falls into this, IF NOT MORE SO! So how does this paradox work? Black America both loves and hates America, and would never think of leaving. Even homeless black people tell me "America is the greatest nation on earth" and would sooner starve than consider moving, even if they had a free plane ticket. Can you explain that one to me.. and what made you different?


And don't miss this Dj Hive's production called "Daniel" about "DANs" (dumb ass niggers):
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCsU2Yun6nM[/youtube]
*the actual "episode" ^ starts at 2:00


part 2
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUNNiduP5wo[/youtube]
Has Obama single handedly undermined the pocket of resistance to the government that was the disgruntled black population?



BAHHHH!! I was just thinking about this heavily for the past few days, but this subject is always on my mind. Yes, from my research African Americans need to migrate back to Africa.



Why? Because the African American community will NEVER thrive as a whole in America because they live INSIDE a European civilization. It simply cannot work because:

No.1, Europeans fundamentally THINK DIFFERENTLY then African people, they then ( Europeans) force Africans living in their civilization to be like them, or at least conform to their laws, which the African man cannot, which causes problems. Problems= JAIL and or Death as a end result. For example, African people were not meant to live in concrete buildings around hardly any nature, eating fast food and stressing about working another 12 hour shift. Also, African men in their ancient culture had many wives but in this Western society they cannot. Or, another is the fact that our women run to white men (police, court systems) whenever they have a problem unaware that the system is rigged against them.

No.2 The Europeans will not allow African Americans as a whole to thrive, they will only let us thrive individually where they can keep tabs and pull the plug if we become too outspoken. For example, in the 1920's African Americans achieved great success as a community through legal means, they owned cab companies, corner stores, real estate, and other businesses, but then Caucasians banned together and burned down their businesses, killed many of them, and ran them out of town. The worse took place in Oklahoma where wealthy African Americans where reduced to poverty and were unable to recover; they died poor after years of hard honest work. Honest, non athletic, African American success has never been seen again and it will never return in the states.

Black Wall Street:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nssa5B79784


"Great documentary and a much needed story to be told. I wonder why a movie about this tragic event has never been made? How many films about the Holocaust have we seen? While Tylor Perry can wear a dress in many of his films and Oprah Winfrey can bash Black men in her productions, why don't these individuals,who possess the funds and film making know how,along with a Spike Lee,F. Gary Grey or Antoine Fuqua director type put out a film about this story? Makes you wonder,are they just puppets?"





Anyhow, right now African Americans thought processes ranges from suffering from Stockholm syndrome all the way to stupidity. So on one hand, many Africans know their own roots but refuse to go anywhere because they have emotional ties to a place that brought their ancestors here against their will, and on the other hand, sad to say, a larger percentage of African Americans today are extremely ignorant and could not navigate outside their own neighborhood, let alone another country.

To make matters worse, outspoken corrupt black leaders (ie, Pastors, Politicians, Mortuary business) would never allow blacks to migrate back to Africa because they would be out of a job and could not live the "high life" (ie, cocaine, prostitutes, private Gulfstream jets) off their own people anymore. They see to it that African Americans remain poor, stupid, and stuck on that faggot jesus so they can continue to rake in the profits.
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Postby E_Irizarry » Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:37 am

@Phoenix Sosa,

I see a lot of me in you via proxy. Wow. Epic story. You know what? Actually not yelling that much actually salvages your well-being and your soul, man.

And actually, it's easy to sing and let it come out naturally that way.

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Postby NorthAmericanguy » Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:41 am

ladislav wrote:Another reason is that many black people have a distorted view of the outside world, even more so than whites. They think in Africa people live in mud huts and in trees. African students in the US get mistreated by black people the worst and they have told me that it is very hard for them to make friends with them because US blacks are contemptuous of or hostile to them.
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SPOT ON! I have seen it myself.
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Postby Winston » Tue Aug 23, 2011 1:17 am

Also, I've noticed that black people tend to be open to hearing the truth more. For example, whenever I've said to black coworkers "Doesn't that suck?" for this and that reason, they nod their heads in agreement and say, "Oh I know!". Or even with black strangers and bystanders, when I complain about something, they nod in agreement and validate what I say. But white folks tend to shy away from hearing complaints, or they downplay them, or ignore them altogether. Most whites I've met tend to prefer fakeness to truth.

So it does seem that black people are more open to hearing the truth and acknowledge it, more than white people are. That perhaps is another reason why there are a lot of black people here who sympathize with blunt truth.
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Postby odbo » Tue Aug 23, 2011 1:39 am

I don't understand why African Americans hate Africans and are afraid of Africa. If making money online and finding an eastern european woman wasn't a current priority for me, I'd be heading there right now. It's not as jaded as Europe/Asia or even South America. I'll stick out like a sore thumb there and I still want to go. Why don't people share this view? They think they'll catch aids?? I'm not even talking about going for women, just going to visit! People seem to think they'll end up being cooked on a bonfire if they travel there.

It's really quite embarrassing how people are MISERABLE and disconnected from their being in the developed city, and want to escape it by going to another metropolis (i.e. London or Berlin). I'll never understand that. They complain about Kazakhstan, Philippines, Russia having bad infrastructure or whatever, when that is exactly the appeal. It's sustainable living, not built on credit and theft. All technology and fancy architecture does is further distance people from each other.
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