@ Everyone
Thanks for the responses. But I think a few of you misunderstood. I was asking more of a QUIZ QUESTION, not asking for advice. Perhaps I should have posted this in the General Discussions section. I AM NOT TRYING TO GET AN AMERICAN WOMAN. I'm planning to go to Argentina, Estonia, Latvia, or Poland. I haven't decided which one yet. I'm just seeing if any of you have realized what it really takes to be successful with American women.
Eurobrat won the quiz question with the best answer:
@ zboyeurobrats answer wrote: 3 companies, 10 million dollars in assets and cash, a 6 pack of abs, 6'2" tall , no children, must be able to make women laugh on command, must have her political/religious beliefs etc. etc.
It very much surprises me. Perhaps conditions are worse for guys in their twenties then they were 15-20 years ago when I was in my twenties. Things weren't THAT bad back in the 1990s.zboy1 wrote:It doesn't surprise me to be honest. I've been considered attractive by some girls as well, but maintaining and finding relationships is difficult for me. You can imagine how much more difficult it is for a person that is considered 'ugly' by American standards. I think looks is mostly subjective anyway. The problem is that in the U.S., unless you're super rich, over 6'4 or taller, super handsome, and have high social status, then even some good-looking guys have trouble.
@ Phoenix Sosa
I wasn't saying you were ugly. I was just saying that just in the past couple weeks there were 4 handsome guys that registered. I wasn't listing all the handsome guys.Phoenix_Sosa wrote: Larry, look at my pictures on my Facebook profile:
http://www.facebook.com/phoenixsosa
I don't have problems getting women either. You have to deal with a lot of mind games. One minute she likes you and the other minute she doesn't even know who you are. Things like that. I have been single for a while and I want to keep it that way until I move to Denmark in 2012. I don't even care about women in this country anymore.
It is not worth it. I have better things to do with my time.
Why Denmark? What advantage does Denmark have over say Latvia? Latvia has just as high a percentage of blondes. Look at them here:
http://www.goblonde.lv/
Also, the cost of living is much lower.
$100,000 sounds like a lot. But you have to remember I would most likely have to leave my job so the $100,000 is all I would have to live on till I got a new job which could take quite a while. Believe me, I am tempted to just take off. But I really can't retire on just the $120,000 I currently have. So I would have to either get a job in the country I'm moving to or somehow arrange a leave of absence from work so I can fulfill my dream without losing my job. I'm not a rich guy. I have an average income. I just have been saving very carefully for the last 8 years.Phoenix_Sosa wrote: To answer your question directly. GET OUT OF THIS TOXIC WASTELAND! I am 26 years old and I am not going to live in America until I am 35 or older. I know my fate here. Go to a country of your choice and start a new life there. That's what I am doing. Stop wasting time with American women. You said you have $100,000? Shit, if I had that money at age 26, you know what I do?
1. Get a one way ticket to Denmark.
2. Put half of that 100,000 in the bank for a rainy day.
3. Get the cheapest place I can afford. I have connections in Denmark already, so that won't be a problem.
I appreciate your idea. However, you are 26. I am 41. You just don't understand. When you reach your 40's, you become invisible to young women. You say that Mark Edward Davis isn't having a Sugar Daddy relationship. Well, perhaps he isn't offering her a Sugar Daddy allowance. However, I suspect he is quite rich. If a guy is very rich, he doesn't need to offer an allowance to have a Sugar Baby. It is my understanding that Anaheim, California is a VERY rich area. Disneyland is in Anaheim, California:
http://disneyland.disney.go.com/disneyland/
So, you see, he doesn't need to offer an allowance to her to Sugar Daddy her. Just by living in his house, which I suspect is a mansion, is enough. It is misleading to think that, just because the very rich and charismatic Mark Edward Davis was able to get a hot Ukrainian wife, therefore I can do the same thing as a geeky, awkward, middle class guy close to him in age.http://disneyland.disney.go.com/disneyland/ wrote: Address:
1313 S. Disneyland Drive
Anaheim, CA 92802
@ ssjparris
It seems to me that women in the US will reject even guys that they are attracted to at a basic level because of social conditioning. They have all sorts of ridiculous filters a guy has to pass through. Even if the woman likes you, she will reject you out of fear that her friends might think negatively of her if you don't pass very strict standards.ssjparris wrote: women sneak peaks at me all the time. this includes American Women. i have been told by my best friend from iran " you're very handsome and black !!!" this is why i get stared at or looked at. BUT....american women don't wanna date still. serious mental problems. because after they reject me, they stare again. yeesh.
@ Taco
Perhaps Taco. However, what I'm saying is that some guys are able to get hot women. However, it seems that in order to do so you have to pass through all sorts of ridiculous criteria. Basically you have to be as Eurobrat described.Taco wrote: Theres no such thing as success with American women, there is never an upside to dating them if your a man. You can only have true freedom and happiness once you completely give up on American women.
@ Banano
My take on this is you have to be as Eurobrat described. However, I would add one thing. You also have to be an evil psychopath. It seems that guys who are psychopathic are sometimes able to get hot women even when they are not so rich. However, nice guys can, at best, get only average looking American women even when they themselves are rich and handsome. I've known rich, handsome American men who were nice who had plain looking wives.Banano wrote: I agree with Steve Hoca when he says its about looks when it comes attracting women and head/face is the most important, 90% is from the neck up,body isnt that much(assumingthat you are not fat), if you got brad pitt or ricky martin head women will be chasing you, im sure(yet they will all tell you they go for personality)...if you got that type of face that they like its done deal,I know from my experience when I go out, (im tall. muscles ,biceps,average at least in in the head), with friend who is mayb 5.9, he does not confidence I would say he is shy n quiet type of guy,skinny , but one thing ha has going for him is he incredibly attractive head, smthin like above mentioned celebs...guess what??..he gets all the attention women come up to him even though he is lackin confidence and he is shy, all it matters is from the neck up, it can be frustrating since going out with him you become invisible....maybe they are hardwired biologically to seek most attractive face to procreate...in a dating world looks is very very important, I cant stand when some ppl try to play it down usually sayin 'looks fade' yea so why they think someones personality wont fade...i know many people who used to be nice n everythin and over time they turned to a nasty assoles...whats yr take on this/
@ lavezzi
I disagree that pretty boys have success with women. All the guys I see with hot women are with very masculine bad boys. Being pretty does NOT help a guy with women.lavezzi wrote: Going by your description, I'm certain your friend fits into the category of being a 'prettyboy', being that he is prevalent in feminine beauty. Which is absolutely not what women are hardwired biologically to seek. The reason they are so adamant about these types is due to programming to subconsciously imitate men in looking for 'beauty' when selecting a mate. Look at what was considered attractive pre-feminism and compare it to now. Looks-wise, the ideal guys would never have been described as 'pretty'. I think biologically a man's height and build is more important when physically attracting a woman than his face.
@ rome86
I disagree. All the hot women I see want masculine bad boys.rome86 wrote: lavezzi is right ..in the western world and more so america ..women are programmed to go after the feminine looking guys .... masculine guys like us unless we are thugs or deadbeat eell we have no luck... down south women prefere masculine looking guys
@ eurobrat
First, congratulations on winning the quiz with your answer!eurobrat wrote: Who the hell has 100K in cash at 26 during the worst recession since the 1920's?
WTF are you still doing here? Sounds fishy...
Second, I'm 41, not 26. Phoenix is 26. I am planning on leaving but I do have to choose a country, learn the language, and find a job over there first as one cannot realistically retire on even $120,000.
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