Join John Adams, world renowned Intl Matchmaker, Monday nights 8:30 EST for Live Webcasts!
And check out Five Reasons why you should attend a FREE AFA Seminar! See locations and dates here.



View Active Topics       View Your Posts       Latest 100 Topics       FAQ Topics       Mobile Friendly Theme


Faking Virginity to Hook You

Ask questions and get advice. Disclaimer: Any advice you take here is at your own risk. We are not liable for any consequences you might incur from following advice here. Note: Before posting your question, do a search for it in the Google Search box at the top to see if it's been addressed.

Moderators: jamesbond, fschmidt

WorldTraveler
Junior Poster
Posts: 718
Joined: June 3rd, 2008, 3:46 pm

Re: Faking Virginity to Hook You

Post by WorldTraveler » November 29th, 2012, 9:52 am



WorldTraveler
Junior Poster
Posts: 718
Joined: June 3rd, 2008, 3:46 pm

Re: Faking Virginity to Hook You

Post by WorldTraveler » November 29th, 2012, 9:52 am



WorldTraveler
Junior Poster
Posts: 718
Joined: June 3rd, 2008, 3:46 pm

Re: Faking Virginity to Hook You

Post by WorldTraveler » November 29th, 2012, 9:52 am



WorldTraveler
Junior Poster
Posts: 718
Joined: June 3rd, 2008, 3:46 pm

Re: Faking Virginity to Hook You

Post by WorldTraveler » November 29th, 2012, 9:54 am



Renata
Experienced Poster
Posts: 1106
Joined: May 7th, 2012, 12:14 am
Location: Ireland

Post by Renata » November 29th, 2012, 7:13 pm

I think there's a surgical procedure to restore the hymen as well, geeez lol

a normal girl would rather you take her as she is .... that way she could gauantee a long happy life.
- It's easy to give, when you know what it's like to have nothing. -

- Develop a backbone, not a wishbone. -

ladislav
Elite Upper Class Poster
Posts: 3619
Joined: September 6th, 2007, 7:30 pm

Re: Faking Virginity to Hook You

Post by ladislav » November 29th, 2012, 7:34 pm

When you said fake virgin, the first thing that came to mind was Filipinas. I see you are talking about a Middle Eastern country. My opinion is that if you are looking for a virgin there will always be girls out there to step up to the plate and pretend to be virgins or whatever else you are looking for.

Could you talk a little about Filipinas that have many "Parallel Lives". these are typically Filipinas that have multiple foreign boyfriends at the same time. Filipinas seem to be the masters of this. I think a good Filipina scammer can convince many guys that she is love with just them. What are your thoughts and experiences on this this. Thanks!

Back to your original question. I have met Filipinas that professed to be virgins, that I know were not. Or ones that said they were raped and only done it once! Big joke!
Such Filipinas are usually found in the contrived online Westerner-Pinay dating world as well as in any large cities in tourist areas and in the no-man's land- the Asia- West periphery where people speak English and where lonely western guys meet money-hungry or ambitious Filipina girls. So, if you do not live in the "real" Philippines- a small to medium sized town with few tourists or expats where families are strong, good girls would be a rarity. When you go online or live in the English speaking Philippines which revolves around foreign companies, expats, retirees, US military, executives living in Manila none of whom want to integrate and only speak English- that is a breeding ground for such bad girls. And also such an environment is a place where there is plenty of opportunity to scam- so scammers and online cheaters swarm to that scene. Same in Thailand, same in Russia, etc.

If you start living in the "proper" Philippines as a member of society (more or less) and do things the Filipino way ( because, surprise surprise, you are in their country) and speak their language, then you will meet proper mainstream people- and virgins among them are very common.

I am not saying they do not cheat each other or do not have an urge to cheat but there is more social control, there are parents, community, town, church, college etc so there is a much greater chance to meet the type of conservative girls that many guys want.

If you cannot, find a good Christian girl on a Christian site.
A brain is a terrible thing to wash!

davewe
Experienced Poster
Posts: 1434
Joined: July 27th, 2011, 3:21 am

Post by davewe » November 29th, 2012, 8:16 pm

The easiest thing for me to wonder is why any guy in his right mind requires virginity, let alone why he would travel halfway around the world to seek it.

But let's skip that question for the moment. The real issue is that virginity in not provable - as has been pointed out, even the presence of the hymen is no proof of virginity. So a guy travels halfway around the world to seek a girl who has a quality that is unprovable. This seems like a suckers bet to me.

When dealing with women in general, and foreign women in particular, we are all very sensitive to being lied to or scammed. The easiest way to ensure that you will be lied to is to ask a woman to have a quality that she or you can never prove - such as virginity. I mean if you require a girl who has a college degree or a good job or a quality family - these are all qualities that she can easily prove. Asking her to prove something unprovable is an open invitation to asking her to lie.
Last edited by davewe on November 29th, 2012, 11:29 pm, edited 2 times in total.

Banano
Veteran Poster
Posts: 2012
Joined: June 11th, 2011, 9:26 am

Post by Banano » November 29th, 2012, 8:25 pm

online dating sites should be avoided , they attracts scammers

look for the chicks that are from traditional middle class family, this cant be stressed enough, its important ANd for girls that have good relationship with parents, brothers, uncles, etc,


virgin girl should feel like virgin, when you touch virgin girl she respond differently than one who has been out n about, authentic, intense like a brand new car when you driveit for the first time, that frsh smell, very responsive,steering wheel and brakes a bit stiff,
...should be born sometime after 1990..

girls these days lose virginity in mid teens, filipinas have baby at 17 or 18, by 35 she is granny

User avatar
Teal Lantern
Veteran Poster
Posts: 2769
Joined: August 14th, 2012, 12:48 am
Location: Briar Patch, Universe 25

Post by Teal Lantern » November 29th, 2012, 9:57 pm

davewe wrote:The easiest thing for me to wonder is why any guy in his right mind requires virginity, let alone why he would travel halfway around the world to seek it.

But let's skip that question for the moment. The real issue is that virginity in not probable - as has been pointed out, even the presence of the hymen is no proof of virginity. So a guy travels halfway around the world to seek a girl who has a quality that is unprovable. This seems like a suckers bet to me.

When dealing with women in general, and foreign women in particular, we are all very sensitive to being lied to or scammed. The easiest way to ensure that you will be lied to is to ask a woman to have a quality that she or you can never prove - such as virginity. I mean if you require a girl who has a college degree or a good job or a quality family - these are all qualities that she can easily prove. Asking her to proven something unprovable is an open invitation to asking her to lie.
... especially if she stands to gain an improvement in her standard of living by telling that lie vs. missing out by telling the truth.
That's true all over the world.
не поглеждай назад. 8)

"Even an American judge is unlikely to award child support for imputed children." - FredOnEverything

Raja
Freshman Poster
Posts: 316
Joined: July 22nd, 2008, 1:53 pm

Post by Raja » November 29th, 2012, 11:26 pm

davewe wrote:The easiest thing for me to wonder is why any guy in his right mind requires virginity, let alone why he would travel halfway around the world to seek it.
Or how he bought into the myth that being from an island province makes it more likely that someone going to the point of entertaining leaving her home is so tied into the old ways and not the new ways of their homeland

Tsar
Veteran Poster
Posts: 2030
Joined: August 7th, 2012, 8:40 pm
Location: Somwhere, Maine

Post by Tsar » November 30th, 2012, 3:25 am

davewe wrote:The easiest thing for me to wonder is why any guy in his right mind requires virginity, let alone why he would travel halfway around the world to seek it.
It could be a pride issue, a religious issue, a personal issue, or a multitude of issues.

Further reading:
http://waitingtillmarriage.org/study-co ... marriages/
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the ... x-afterwar
http://www.livescience.com/10935-delayi ... finds.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/healthnews/8 ... laims.html
http://socialpathology.blogspot.com/201 ... chive.html
http://socialpathology.blogspot.com/201 ... -slut.html

Image

I want to marry a virgin.
davewe wrote:But let's skip that question for the moment. The real issue is that virginity in not provable - as has been pointed out, even the presence of the hymen is no proof of virginity. So a guy travels halfway around the world to seek a girl who has a quality that is unprovable. This seems like a suckers bet to me.
You got a point. However, there are people who can easily know when a person is lying based on body language and non-verbal aspects. Word selection is another potential area to discern truth from lies.

See:
http://www.truthaboutdeception.com/lyin ... -cues.html

There are machines that can expose lies or confirm truths by reading physiological symptoms of lying:
  • Subject's heart rate, breathing rate
    Blood pressure
    Sweat on the fingertips (also called galvanic skin response, or GSR)
    Some modern machines can also detect movements in the arms and legs

http://www.ehow.com/how-does_5131924_li ... -work.html
davewe wrote:When dealing with women in general, and foreign women in particular, we are all very sensitive to being lied to or scammed. The easiest way to ensure that you will be lied to is to ask a woman to have a quality that she or you can never prove - such as virginity. I mean if you require a girl who has a college degree or a good job or a quality family - these are all qualities that she can easily prove. Asking her to prove something unprovable is an open invitation to asking her to lie.
It is naive to have blind faith and complete trust in a woman (or any person). My philosophy is a woman is guilty until proven innocent. Betrayal is to be expected and one should never let his guard down. A person can lower their guard but never stop. A man has to protect and defend what he has, or he might as well not have anything. So many men in America lose everything? Why? Naivety, blind faith, and trusting a lying cheat of a woman.

abcdavid01
Experienced Poster
Posts: 1580
Joined: November 18th, 2012, 7:52 am
Location: On the run

Post by abcdavid01 » November 30th, 2012, 4:11 am

Thanks for that chart Tsar. I'm not religious, but I sure act like it.
中国人万岁! 中国美女万岁!

Jester
Elite Upper Class Poster
Posts: 7875
Joined: January 20th, 2009, 10:10 am
Location: Chiang Mai Thailand

Re: Faking Virginity to Hook You

Post by Jester » November 30th, 2012, 6:26 am



Jester
Elite Upper Class Poster
Posts: 7875
Joined: January 20th, 2009, 10:10 am
Location: Chiang Mai Thailand

Re: Faking Virginity to Hook You

Post by Jester » November 30th, 2012, 6:26 am



Jester
Elite Upper Class Poster
Posts: 7875
Joined: January 20th, 2009, 10:10 am
Location: Chiang Mai Thailand

Re: Faking Virginity to Hook You

Post by Jester » November 30th, 2012, 6:27 am



Post Reply
  • Similar Topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post

Return to “Questions and Advice”