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Do we need investors on HA to fund projects and promote us?

Postby Winston » Sat Mar 08, 2014 7:40 pm

One of the forum members PMed me asking if should try to find investors. I don't know why. Most of my income here is from advertisers. What would need investing in and how would the investors be paid? There has to be a payoff for an investor. Plus you would be under pressure to deliver for them too.

I know a guy that has investors for his company. But I don't know how all that works. So if investors invest in your company, how do they get paid? And what amount? By dividend?

Anyway, the only projects that I can think of right now to expand this movement are:

- Making documentary films
- Set up a travel and consulting agency for guys who want to move abroad
- Set up a matchmaking agency
- Upgrading this website and expanding it's presence online
- Publishing my books and getting them into bookstores, not just online on Amazon
- Getting us exposure on mass media, news and TV
- Holding public conferences and seminars to spread our message and movement
Etc.

What do you think?

Do any of these projects require investors? Or just contractors and marketing companies?
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Postby xiongmao » Sat Mar 08, 2014 8:55 pm

I have an idea for an enhancement to the site. I'll do it in exchange for a cut of the revenue. I'll PM you the details.

I'm now working for a travel company, so I expect that when I find my feet there I'll have all sorts of other ideas.

Take a look at what Danny Choo did with his website. In 2007 he had a popular website. In 2014 he has a multi million yen media business with his own brand EVERYWHERE.
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Postby publicduende » Sun Mar 09, 2014 10:45 am

xiongmao wrote:I have an idea for an enhancement to the site. I'll do it in exchange for a cut of the revenue. I'll PM you the details.

I'm now working for a travel company, so I expect that when I find my feet there I'll have all sorts of other ideas.

Take a look at what Danny Choo did with his website. In 2007 he had a popular website. In 2014 he has a multi million yen media business with his own brand EVERYWHERE.


You mean Danny Choo the Japan pop culture freak?
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Postby Renata » Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:57 am

A match making agency is a great idea
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Postby Winston » Fri Mar 21, 2014 10:25 pm

Here's what Arabian prince said. What do you think?

Arabian_prince wrote:What do I think ? I think you may have a solid understanding of the socio-economic issues revolving dating in America, but not in investment and business.

Of course investors will want to get something back. That's the whole meaning of investment. But they will help you success on a national, if not international, level. You will make a lot of profit with them as you'd do without them. They don't just have money to help you, but also resources and experience.

Going abroad is an underground movement that's going to rise to mainstream very soon. And you should take advantage of this golden opportunity.

Who is going to help you with your other projects ? Where will you get the capital or funding to do them ? Keep in mind, that every great company or business has a lot of investors behind them, even facebook.
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Postby momopi » Fri Mar 21, 2014 11:58 pm

It's possible to fund your trip abroad with crowd sourcing funds. For example, if you wanted to go to Thailand, you can crowd source a project like this:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jr ... ref=search

See his other projects here: https://www.kickstarter.com/blog/big-weekend


If anyone have questions regarding crowd sourcing services such as kickstarter, please read the FAQ:
https://www.kickstarter.com/help?ref=footer

Questions about specific projects should be directed at the owner of the project and not unrelated persons.



List of crowd sourcing sites:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/chancebarne ... ndraising/

1. Kickstarter
Kickstarter is a site where creative projects raise donation-based funding. These projects can range from new creative products, like an art installation, to a cool watch, to pre-selling a music album. It’s not for businesses, causes, charities, or personal financing needs. Kickstarter is one of the earlier platforms, and has experienced strong growth and many break-out large campaigns in the last few years.

2. Indiegogo
While Kickstarter maintains a tighter focus and curates the creative projects approved on its site, Indiegogo approves donation-based fundraising campaigns for most anything — music, hobbyists, personal finance needs, charities and whatever else you could think of (except investment). They have had international growth because of their flexibility, broad approach and their early start in the industry.

3. Crowdfunder
Crowdfunder is the crowdfunding platform for businesses, with a growing social network of investors, tech startups, small businesses, and social enterprises (financially sustainable/profitable businesses with social impact goals).

Crowdfunder offers a blend of donation-based and investment crowdfunding from individuals and angel investors, and was a leading participant in the JOBS Act legislation. The company has localized crowdfunding and investment to help develop entrepreneurial ecosystems and access to capital outside Silicon Valley. Its unique CROWDFUNDx initiative in cities across the US and Mexico connects local investors with local entrepreneurs both online and offline, and does the work to validate top local companies in each city across the US and Mexico.

4. RocketHub
Rockethub powers donation-based funding for a wide variety of creative projects.

What’s unique about RocketHub is their FuelPad and LaunchPad programs that help campaign owners and potential promotion and marketing partners connect and collaborate for the success of a campaign.

5. Crowdrise
Crowdrise is a place for donation-based funding for Causes and Charity. They’ve attracted a community of do-gooders and and fund all kinds of inspiring causes and needs.

A unique Points System on Crowdrise helps track and reveal how much charitable impact members and organizations are making.

6. Somolend
Somolend is a site for lending for small businesses in the US, providing debt-based investment funding to qualified businesses with existing operations and revenue. Somolend has partnered with banks to provide loans, as well as helping small business owners bring their friends and family into the effort.

With their Midwest roots, a strong founder who was a leading participant in the JOBS Act legislation, and their focus and lead in the local small business market, Somolend has begun expanding into multiple cities and markets in the US.

7. appbackr
If you want to build the next new mobile app and are seeking donation-based funding to get things off the ground or growing, then check out appbackr and their niche community for mobile app development.

8. AngelList
If you’re a tech startup with a shiny lead investor already signed on, or looking for for Silicon Valley momentum, then there are angels and institutions finding investments through AngelList. For a long while AngelList didn’t say that they did crowdfunding, which makes sense as they have catered to the investment establishment in tech startups, but now they’re getting into the game. The accredited investors and institutions on AngelList have been funding a growing number of select tech startup deals.

9. Invested.in
You might want to create your own crowdfunding community to support donation-based fundraising for a specific group or niche in the market. Invested.in is a Venice, CA based company that is a top name “white labelâ€￾ software provider, giving you the tools to get started and grow your own.

10. Quirky
If you’re an inventor, maker, or tinkerer of some kind then Quirky is a place to collaborate and crowdfund for donation-based funding with a community of other like-minded folks. Their site digs deeper into helping the process of bringing an invention or product to life, allowing community participation in the process.

These 10 crowdfunding sites cover most campaign types or funding goals you might have. Whether you’re looking to fundraise or not, go check out the sites here that grab your attention and get involved in this collaborative community.
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Postby Winston » Sat Mar 22, 2014 1:47 am

Thanks Momopi.
Well I don't need funds to travel. I make enough on this site to do that. Unless there are projects involved, such as making a professional documentary.

The problem is, we don't have a serious business game plan yet. So I can't just go and get investments without a serious purpose and strategy.

More people need to be involved too. I can't do everything alone. I can't even finish my personal projects from the last few years, let alone start new ones.

I think Arabian prince was saying that investors could help promote your business and get more publicity. I don't know how though.
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Postby momopi » Mon Mar 24, 2014 5:50 pm

Winston wrote:Thanks Momopi.
Well I don't need funds to travel. I make enough on this site to do that. Unless there are projects involved, such as making a professional documentary.
The problem is, we don't have a serious business game plan yet. So I can't just go and get investments without a serious purpose and strategy.


You can search through existing crowd sourcing projects for ideas, then engage the project owners for some suggestions.

Projects do not need to be complex. It can be as simple as colorful cables:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/la ... ref=search

Or coil cables:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/11 ... e?ref=live
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Postby Winston » Mon Sep 15, 2014 12:45 am

Momopi,
I don't understand something. What's to prevent the money on Kickstarter from being taken by the project starter and pocketed? What safeguards and accountability are in place?

And what do the investors get out of it? Do they get a profit share? What's to protect their investment?

Perhaps we can use Kickstarter to get sponsors to start a HappierAbroad documentary. Or at least get my ebook published in paperback and distributed nationwide, by hiring professional editors.

The basis would be that our message published nationwide will help millions of lonely Americans and give them hope, preventing them from committing suicide or doing mass school shootings. I think that would be a great cause.

http://www.kickstarter.com
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