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Out of the Rubble: Building a New Community - WALDORF?

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Out of the Rubble: Building a New Community - WALDORF?

Postby Jester » Tue Apr 14, 2015 3:51 am


Mr S wrote:

Plus I can send my kid to the Manila Waldorf school surrounded by high-end Filipino families that actually have decent values and a brain.



GREAT point. I had checked out Waldorf schools in Costa Rica etc before leaving the USSA, but had NO IDEA they exist in Asia.

Going to make this a thread.



So here it is.

One problem we face when trying to sow the seed of a new community is GETTING IT STARTED.

Waldorf Schools are already out there, with various "UnSchoolers" and "HomeSchoolers" clustered around them.

Fellow iconoclasts, independent thinkers, libertarian types, people who love their children.

Could they be the "grit" around which a pearl forms? Could their locations be a fertile location for new communities to sprout?
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Re: Out of the Rubble: Building a New Community - WALDORF?

Postby fschmidt » Tue Apr 14, 2015 12:11 pm

Jester, have you actually met these parents? I know that the home schooling parents where I live aren't a very impressive group. I don't know much about Waldorf Schools but I would be interested to hear what anyone with direct experience with parents associated with these schools has to say.
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Re: Out of the Rubble: Building a New Community - WALDORF?

Postby Jester » Wed Apr 15, 2015 5:30 am

fschmidt wrote:Jester, have you actually met these parents? I know that the home schooling parents where I live aren't a very impressive group. I don't know much about Waldorf Schools but I would be interested to hear what anyone with direct experience with parents associated with these schools has to say.


Took yoga from a beautiful Black woman in Montrose just north of Glendale CA, who lived in Pasadena with her White husband and kid. Met both the parents. He was quiet and introverted, she was the star, but very feminine. Like a young slender Condoleeza Rice. Their kid was in Waldorf school in Pasadena. Families were banned from having tv or video games. All 12 year olds learned car repair. Math was big, too - I forget the details.

I was very impressed.

BUT... each Waldorf school is different. They are not a chain. So each one will require research.

What do you not like about homeschoolers, though? I'm curious.
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Re: Out of the Rubble: Building a New Community - WALDORF?

Postby fschmidt » Wed Apr 15, 2015 10:45 am

Jester wrote:Their kid was in Waldorf school in Pasadena. Families were banned from having tv or video games. All 12 year olds learned car repair. Math was big, too - I forget the details.

That sounds quite good. Maybe Mr S can comment on the school he knows.

What do you not like about homeschoolers, though? I'm curious.

There is a huge homeschooling community here in El Paso because the public schools are so bad. By bad, I mean full of violence and bad culture. The ones doing the homeschooling are mostly religious Christian mothers. They use computer programs to teach. They don't do much themselves. The result is that their kids don't learn much, about as little as those in school. This reflects the interest of the mothers which is mostly religion, not education.
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Re: Out of the Rubble: Building a New Community - WALDORF?

Postby Ghost » Thu Apr 16, 2015 12:12 am

I think a form of schooling would need to form around a community rather than the other way around. I.e., the families need to come together first and be a community and then figure out how to school their children and keep them away from the bullshit of mainstream schooling. I doubt most home-school groups could really do much organizing into communities. Most of them are not motivated by forming communities - they are motivated largely for religious reasons, along with more minor reasons like needing more flexibility, getting away from bullies, etc. Many of them withdraw from the mainstream culture (which is good) but do not have a replacement. They often withdraw and isolate.
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Re: Out of the Rubble: Building a New Community - WALDORF?

Postby Teal Lantern » Fri Apr 17, 2015 10:11 am

Jester wrote:So here it is.

One problem we face when trying to sow the seed of a new community is GETTING IT STARTED.

Waldorf Schools are already out there, with various "UnSchoolers" and "HomeSchoolers" clustered around them.

Fellow iconoclasts, independent thinkers, libertarian types, people who love their children.

Could they be the "grit" around which a pearl forms? Could their locations be a fertile location for new communities to sprout?

You may find some useful ideas in the archives of the "Free State Project" (FSP)(NH) and its smaller counterpart "Free State Wyoming".

Wrt FSP, the interested/took action ratio was about 10:1, and some of them even managed to get themselves elected to local/state office.
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Re: Out of the Rubble: Building a New Community - WALDORF?

Postby Jester » Sat Apr 18, 2015 6:06 pm

fschmidt wrote:
Maybe Mr S can comment on the school he knows.



Manila
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cE6L1TVBX9Q
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cE6L1TVBX9Q[/youtube]

Waldorf method to teach applied math etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cE6L1TVBX9Q
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cE6L1TVBX9Q[/youtube]
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Re: Out of the Rubble: Building a New Community - WALDORF?

Postby Jester » Sun May 10, 2015 12:16 am

jeff Berwick,
The DollarVigilante
broadcasts from Acapulco

(with Angel Clark of
www,RadioFreedom.us )

viewtopic.php?t=5012
[youtube]http://www.happierabroad.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5012[/youtube]


from 22:50 to 24:15 mentions Montessori school and conventional high-end privagte school in Acapulco
29:48 to 30:11 to 30:45 mentions Dayna Martin, an expert on "Unschooling", as well as (hero) Luke Rudkowski

Here's what I googled about this Dayna Martin person.
havent perused yet, just posting here to facilitate others' research
http://DaynaMartin.com/
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