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Re: Should your gallbladder ever be removed?

Post by HouseMD » February 19th, 2017, 3:46 pm

Winston wrote:Heres what my cousin, an MD in California, told me.

"Agree gallbladder besides being a bag of bile collection that it still has contractile function. So not useless!

But disagree that it is necessary. Without gallbladder, bile is produced but not stored. Modified ti low fat diet, then missing gallbladder is not a big deal.

Gallbladder mainly contract and secrets bile in reaction to fatty meals."
It's not useless. It's just not worth the trouble if you're symptomatic to not deal with it, because complications can be severe.

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Re: Should your gallbladder ever be removed?

Post by Rock » February 19th, 2017, 3:58 pm

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Rock wrote:
HouseMD wrote:Hey, I'm not saying stone removal is the worst operation in the world. Most doctors just won't do it because the complication rate is tenfold higher than removing the gallbladder, and, at least in first world countries, doctors really just hate being in court. Over the life of a surgeon, that's a few more trips to the 'ol lawyer nobody wants. Myself, knowing the risks? I'd probably try dissolving the stones or breaking them up, then just go for having the thing out. But hey, that's just me.

Those are some pretty big stones- to give you an idea, the bile duct is about 0.1 cm in diameter, so those stones were never moving. Keep your weight down, lay off the alcohol, drink lots of water, exercise regularly, and eat right and hopefully you'll never have stones again.
I'm a slim guy who doesn't drink except an occasional wine or social drink and I exercise fairly regularly. I have not idea how I developed such big stones over decades.

Could it be that being focused specialists on something so narrow enables them to reduce the normal complication rate to an acceptable level? I've seen this same dynamic play out with certain pioneers in past. For example, hair transplants used to have high resection rates until a handful of doctors figured out how preserve most transplanted hairs, even with dense packing, and many other doctors over time were trained in same technique. Also, consider fat grafting which used to be temporary (most transplanted fat would die within months due to lack of blood supply) until one or more pioneering doctors figured out how to harvest and transplant in a way that a large percentage of the fat would become virtually permanent. Perhaps this hospital in China and maybe a few others there are doing pioneering gallbladder work so that with their techniques, complication rate can be reduced to very low (acceptable level). I've found that in different countries, there are dramatically different techniques and skill levels for given procedures. It seems that some doctors and clinics trial and error their way to expertise over 100s to 1,000s of cases over years and decades. That means earlier patients are like guinea pigs and some may suffer. But once the correct techniques are figured out, future patients benefit. I think Thomas Edison tried out hundreds of substances before he figured out what worked for the lightbulb filament.
They likely have lower complication rates than the usual, but the very nature of stone extraction makes it a higher risk and complication procedure. I mean, theoretically there probably could be better ways to do it- was it laparoscopic or open? And did you have a drain? I'm actually kind of curious lol. Many of the complications in the past have been due to fistulas from the drain or leaking bile, so I'm wondering how they went about it. Also really curious how they closed it- Graham patching might minimize leakage and encourage healing and I don't think it's a technique anyone has ever tried on the gallbladder, but they probably did a purse closure, doubled over, can't remember what the damn thing is called off the top of my head but you use it for small bowel serosal repairs.

Maybe I'll ask about your hospital down the line, sounds like a good study in the making.
I forgot to mention I was Cokeaholic in younger years. It was laproscopy with 2 incisions, one at bellybutton so not visible and other a 1.5 inch incision near bottom of right ribcage. That scar is not very apparent when I go shirtless so I'm fine with it.

In Philippines, they seem to be playing around a lot with stem cell treatments brought in from S. Korea and certain other places. Some of the rich people there are the guinea pigs for this stuff - IV treatments with the cells extracted from blood or fat. Bone marrow (which is already approved to use for certain blood diseases there) is also used sometimes. Some encouraging results so far but still very experimental and risky.

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Re: Should your gallbladder ever be removed?

Post by Winston » February 28th, 2017, 8:08 pm

http://www.naturalnews.com/007733.html

What conventional medicine won't dare tell you about gall bladder removal surgery

Sunday, May 22, 2005
by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger
Editor of NaturalNews.com (See all articles...)
Tags: gall bladder surgery, gall bladder, gallstones

A reader asks, "After having gall bladder surgery three weeks ago, I am having a lot of discomfort, bloating, nausea, and in general, not feeling well. My doctor says it will pass, but it seems to be getting worse. I am a 65-year-old woman. Do you have any advice?"

The first piece of advice I have for people who are considering gall bladder surgery is to get advice before the surgery, not after it, because once you've had the gall bladder removed, your options are quite limited. Remember that conventional medicine loves to go in and remove organs that are presenting symptoms rather than addressing the root cause of the problem in the first place. They think that by removing the organ that hurts, they've cured the problem. Hogwash!

Gall bladder disease and gallstones are almost always the result of poor nutrition. For example: consuming a lot of soft drinks, sugar products, highly acidic foods like red meat and products made with white flour all contribute to the formation of gallstones.

Gallstones can be reversed, but it’s something that takes quite a bit of time. After all, they have been formed in your body over a period of decades, so it's not something you can get rid of overnight from a nutritional standpoint. At the same time, I know that a lot of people are experiencing extreme pain when it comes to passing gall bladder stones. So obviously, those people are looking at surgical procedures as a more immediate technique for getting rid of the pain.

Let's look at some information about gallstones because it is something that affects somewhere around 18 million people in the United States, and maybe even as many as 1 in every 12 people. And yet most people don't know they have them.

According to the National Institutes of Health (NIH), pain from gallstones results in about 800,000 hospitalizations and more than 500,000 operations each year in the United States. Unfortunately, the NIH doesn't give people a lot of information about how to actually avoid gall bladder problems. It's also critical to recognize that the gall bladder has an important function in digestion. And, if you just remove it (which by the way is quite the barbaric thing to do), you are compromising your digestive health for the rest of your life. Surgeons who remove gall bladders are complacent in educating patients about nutritional changes they need to pursue after losing this important digestive organ.

For example, you're not going to get the same quality of digestion you would have had if your gall bladder were in place. You're not going to get the excretion of the bile from the gall bladder into the small intestine, and as a result, you're not going to efficiently digest foods that are moving through your digestive tract. This is especially true for dietary fats, including essential fatty acids.

Without a gall bladder, you're not going to be able to digest dietary fats with any degree of efficiency. This means that if you don't take bile salts as a nutritional supplement every time you eat healthy fats, you'll miss out on all-important omega-3 fatty acids and other healthy oils. That's why people who have had gall bladder removal surgery usually suffer the classic signs of EFA deficiencies: poor nervous system function, irritability, learning difficulties, heart disease, poor blood sugar control, and so on.

Doctors and surgeons flat out aren't telling patients this all-important information. It's downright criminal, if you ask me. This basic education should be required by law. It's flat-out evil to remove an essential organ from a patient's body and neglect to tell them about the long-term adjustments they need to make in order to compensate for that missing organ.

And you know why surgeons don't tell people the truth about gall bladder removal surgery? I suspect it's because if people knew the horrifying nutritional consequences of the procedure, they'd refuse to do it, and surgeons and hospitals would lose out on those paying customers. Talking to a gall bladder surgeon about your gall bladder health is sort of like taking your car to a greasy garage mechanic and asking, "Is there anything wrong with the transmission?" The answer you get is designed to pad his pockets. If you want honest answers on gall bladder pain, go visit a naturopath.

As always, I strongly recommend that people who are considering this surgery look at naturopathic options, because removing a functional organ from your digestive tract is never a health-enhancing solution. It's just something that's too easy for conventional medicine to do. They do hundreds of thousands of these surgeries a year. They don’t consider it a big deal so the patients don’t think it’s a big deal either!

But it really is a big deal. It's sort of like saying, "Well, doctor, my tongue hurts." And the doctor says, "Let's cut out your tongue." In fact, your gall bladder is far more important for digestion than your tongue.

Do everything you can to protect your gall bladder. Along those lines, one of the most important things you need to do is physically massage your internal organs through body movement. A lot of people are surprised to hear this, but your internal organs need to be massaged just like your muscles and skin.

Massage therapy is something that I recommend everyone pursue to enhance his or her health. Massage moves lymph fluid around the body. It stimulates the skin. It even stimulates the brain indirectly and helps create an immunostimulating relaxation response in virtually everyone. The internal organs need this same massage and the very best way to massage these internal organs, such as the gall bladder, is to engage in gentle body movement exercises.

One of the very best you can pursue is Tai Chi. By following the gentle, pivoting movements of Tai Chi, you will massage your liver, gall bladder, pancreas, and even your heart. These organs are not fixed in place. They're not fixed in your body like they are on an anatomy chart. Your organs move around, and they actually benefit from movement just like massaging a limb.

Also along those lines, one of the most important things you need to do is engage in breathing therapy because conscious breathing and deep breathing offers an outstanding massage to all the internal organs in your torso. Your lungs take up a tremendous amount of space in your chest cavity, and when you inhale and really expand your lungs, you are moving the other organs in your cavity and giving them a massage at the same time. Breathing is an excellent way to oxygenate your internal organs and get some movement.

And by the way, your average conventional medicine physician isn’t going to recommend any of this -- nor will he or she even believe any of it. They've never been taught that massage is important for internal organs. In fact, most doctors I know don't think massage is useful at all, which sort of just goes to show you how little they know about how the human body really works! But massage is critical. And of course, so is nutrition. Once again, your best strategy here for your gall bladder is to avoid removing it. Instead, support gall bladder health through diet, nutrition, and physical exercise.

For the reader question in particular, if you've had the gall bladder removed, and you're having a lot of discomfort. What should you do now? I'm sorry to say that these are the predictable side effects of having a gall bladder removed. And chances are your doctor or surgeon probably didn't explain this fully to you. Surgeons have a habit of making everything sound really simple, up until the day you have the procedure done. Then, you start experiencing all sorts of rather serious side effects, and they say, "Oh yeah! That could happen as well."

Hopefully, in this experience, you've learned a lesson. And that lesson is, don’t have body parts removed by overzealous surgeons. I don’t know how to state it any simpler than that. I'm sorry I don’t have a simple solution for you to regain your health after having your gall bladder removed. But the fact is, when you start removing important organs from your body, it is going to have some serious negative consequences -- by the way, bloating and nausea is really only the tip of the iceberg here.

The worst effects are the ones you probably won't feel, that is, impaired digestion for the rest of your life and chronic essential fatty acid deficiencies. In fact, people without gall bladders need to take special care of the foods they consume for the rest of their lives. And above all, they need to avoid all fried foods and any snack foods containing hydrogenated oils or trans fatty acids due to the role of the gall bladder plays in neutralizing excess dietary cholesterol.
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Re: Should your gallbladder ever be removed?

Post by Winston » April 12th, 2017, 3:19 pm

HouseMD,
A few questions for you.

1. Why are my dads doctors so overly eager to remove his gallbladder? I thought they only remove that if you are having gallstone pains. Usually only people with gallstone pains have that kind of surgery right?

2. Isnt it speculative to remove a gallbladder just because of what *might* happen if you dont? Thats like a preemptive strike, like the Iraq war, which any smart person knows was foolish and wrong and driven by money and power and control, not by justice or safety. Do they have any rational proof or just pure speculation and fearmongering?

3. Why cant doctors or scientists fix or repair or heal the gallbladder if its infected? My dads doctors say his gallbladder is inflammed and infected and enlarged, almost touching his intestines, which poses the danger of infecting the intestines too. Why cant they use a needle to squirt antibacterial fluids or antibiotics directly onto the gallbladder to disinfect it? I mean, we can send a man to the moon, but we cant heal or disinfect a little infected gallbladder? Go figure.

4. Why cant the body's immune system and its white blood cells heal the gallbladder? Isnt it programmed to heal all infections?

5. These doctors seem overly eager to remove gallbladders. They dont even seem hesitant or seeking alternative options or solutions. Isnt that a bad sign and red flag. Usually if someone is overly eager then there's a profit motive involved right? That's my experience.

However, doctors tend to have very high incomes so i doubt that they would be greedy enough to make unnecessary surgeries. And after all, you said that only people who love being doctors can make it in their profession, while those who just want the money will burn out soon. So they must have passion for their career right? Their morals must be above that of salesmen and businessmen right?

However even if the doctors are honest and not motivated by profit, they are still brainwashed by their education and medical industry right? I learned that since the 1920s, the Rockefellers and Carnegies and Morgans have invested into the drug industry and medical industry so that medicine became a pure profit system that was interested more in expensive long term treatment than in cures, because the former is more profitable. Thats why the FDA disapproves of all natural cures and claims they dont work, no matter how much proof there is that they do. In short, the FDA and AMA are like a police arm for the drug industry. Thats what their history and actions show. All independent research seems to expose this.

Therefore this means that doctors can be honest and well intentioned, yet their knowledge is corrupted by corporations and government agencies. After all, big pharma is a trillion dollar industry in America and 70 or 80 percent of Americans are now using some form of prescription drugs. So it makes sense that this industry is totally corrupted by politics, power, monopolies and profit right? There are many websites and video documentaries that expose this. Are you aware of it? Doesnt it bother your conscience sometimes or keep you up late at night struggling in your soul?

After all we all know that if a doctor prescribed anything not approved by the FDA then he could lose his license.

Im fact, some of the founding fathers of America, Benjamin push, and Thomas Jefferson, were quoted as saying that the US Constitution needs clauses to protect medical freedom too, or else the medicine industry would someday become a tyranny without freedom too. I will dig up their quotes to send you later.

What do you think?

Sorry for so many questions but these issues have been bothering me lately.

Thanks,
Winston
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Re: Should your gallbladder ever be removed?

Post by MrMan » April 12th, 2017, 5:31 pm

I'm not a medical doctor, but I remember some of the things they told me about having mine removed.

An infected gallbladder is a dangerous thing. If it gets inflamed over and over again, it can heal against the liver, I think, in a way that makes it harder to remove. If it gets infected and clogged, the infection can get to the pancreas, which makes insulin. I had pancreatitis because of my gallbladder problem. People were asking me if I drank. I'm not even a drinker. The pancreatitus was caused by the infected fluids backing up. The organs in that space there, the liver and pancreas, are needed to stay alive, so they want to get rid of a gallbladder that has a tendancy to get infected and inflamed to save those other two organs.

I wondered if they could just go in there and dialate the sphincter of the tube that was clogged that led up in to the gallbladder, or cut in through the stomach and just cut it open and take out the stones. The doctor said that had been done in the past, but the stones tend to return and the problem tends to happen again later in life, or there is a great risk for it. From what the doctor said, there weren't any hospitals anywhere near me that would take out the stones. They just removed the gallbladder.

I haven't read the research, but from what he said, removing the gallbladder tended to be the safest route for patients.

I wouldn't think most doctors, in the US at least, would try to con you into a gallbladder surgery you don't need. Probably, specialists who do that are busy enough to have just about as many operations as they need to earn a living. If they are too aggressive in recommending surgery as opposed to something else at times, it may be because they are in a discipline where the solution is to chop people open and take things out. Surgeons don't typically study herbal remedies, for example. I"m not saying an herbal remedy would help in this case.

The gallbladder performs a useful function related to the storage and flow of bile, but we can live without it. The balance the risks versus what we lose and recommend having a gallbladder removed.

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Re: Should your gallbladder ever be removed?

Post by HouseMD » April 12th, 2017, 6:39 pm

Winston wrote:http://www.naturalnews.com/007733.html

What conventional medicine won't dare tell you about gall bladder removal surgery

Sunday, May 22, 2005
by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger
Editor of NaturalNews.com (See all articles...)
Tags: gall bladder surgery, gall bladder, gallstones

A reader asks, "After having gall bladder surgery three weeks ago, I am having a lot of discomfort, bloating, nausea, and in general, not feeling well. My doctor says it will pass, but it seems to be getting worse. I am a 65-year-old woman. Do you have any advice?"

The first piece of advice I have for people who are considering gall bladder surgery is to get advice before the surgery, not after it, because once you've had the gall bladder removed, your options are quite limited. Remember that conventional medicine loves to go in and remove organs that are presenting symptoms rather than addressing the root cause of the problem in the first place. They think that by removing the organ that hurts, they've cured the problem. Hogwash!

Gall bladder disease and gallstones are almost always the result of poor nutrition. For example: consuming a lot of soft drinks, sugar products, highly acidic foods like red meat and products made with white flour all contribute to the formation of gallstones.

Gallstones can be reversed, but it’s something that takes quite a bit of time. After all, they have been formed in your body over a period of decades, so it's not something you can get rid of overnight from a nutritional standpoint. At the same time, I know that a lot of people are experiencing extreme pain when it comes to passing gall bladder stones. So obviously, those people are looking at surgical procedures as a more immediate technique for getting rid of the pain.

Let's look at some information about gallstones because it is something that affects somewhere around 18 million people in the United States, and maybe even as many as 1 in every 12 people. And yet most people don't know they have them.

According to the National Institutes of Health (NIH), pain from gallstones results in about 800,000 hospitalizations and more than 500,000 operations each year in the United States. Unfortunately, the NIH doesn't give people a lot of information about how to actually avoid gall bladder problems. It's also critical to recognize that the gall bladder has an important function in digestion. And, if you just remove it (which by the way is quite the barbaric thing to do), you are compromising your digestive health for the rest of your life. Surgeons who remove gall bladders are complacent in educating patients about nutritional changes they need to pursue after losing this important digestive organ.

For example, you're not going to get the same quality of digestion you would have had if your gall bladder were in place. You're not going to get the excretion of the bile from the gall bladder into the small intestine, and as a result, you're not going to efficiently digest foods that are moving through your digestive tract. This is especially true for dietary fats, including essential fatty acids.

Without a gall bladder, you're not going to be able to digest dietary fats with any degree of efficiency. This means that if you don't take bile salts as a nutritional supplement every time you eat healthy fats, you'll miss out on all-important omega-3 fatty acids and other healthy oils. That's why people who have had gall bladder removal surgery usually suffer the classic signs of EFA deficiencies: poor nervous system function, irritability, learning difficulties, heart disease, poor blood sugar control, and so on.

Doctors and surgeons flat out aren't telling patients this all-important information. It's downright criminal, if you ask me. This basic education should be required by law. It's flat-out evil to remove an essential organ from a patient's body and neglect to tell them about the long-term adjustments they need to make in order to compensate for that missing organ.

And you know why surgeons don't tell people the truth about gall bladder removal surgery? I suspect it's because if people knew the horrifying nutritional consequences of the procedure, they'd refuse to do it, and surgeons and hospitals would lose out on those paying customers. Talking to a gall bladder surgeon about your gall bladder health is sort of like taking your car to a greasy garage mechanic and asking, "Is there anything wrong with the transmission?" The answer you get is designed to pad his pockets. If you want honest answers on gall bladder pain, go visit a naturopath.

As always, I strongly recommend that people who are considering this surgery look at naturopathic options, because removing a functional organ from your digestive tract is never a health-enhancing solution. It's just something that's too easy for conventional medicine to do. They do hundreds of thousands of these surgeries a year. They don’t consider it a big deal so the patients don’t think it’s a big deal either!

But it really is a big deal. It's sort of like saying, "Well, doctor, my tongue hurts." And the doctor says, "Let's cut out your tongue." In fact, your gall bladder is far more important for digestion than your tongue.

Do everything you can to protect your gall bladder. Along those lines, one of the most important things you need to do is physically massage your internal organs through body movement. A lot of people are surprised to hear this, but your internal organs need to be massaged just like your muscles and skin.

Massage therapy is something that I recommend everyone pursue to enhance his or her health. Massage moves lymph fluid around the body. It stimulates the skin. It even stimulates the brain indirectly and helps create an immunostimulating relaxation response in virtually everyone. The internal organs need this same massage and the very best way to massage these internal organs, such as the gall bladder, is to engage in gentle body movement exercises.

One of the very best you can pursue is Tai Chi. By following the gentle, pivoting movements of Tai Chi, you will massage your liver, gall bladder, pancreas, and even your heart. These organs are not fixed in place. They're not fixed in your body like they are on an anatomy chart. Your organs move around, and they actually benefit from movement just like massaging a limb.

Also along those lines, one of the most important things you need to do is engage in breathing therapy because conscious breathing and deep breathing offers an outstanding massage to all the internal organs in your torso. Your lungs take up a tremendous amount of space in your chest cavity, and when you inhale and really expand your lungs, you are moving the other organs in your cavity and giving them a massage at the same time. Breathing is an excellent way to oxygenate your internal organs and get some movement.

And by the way, your average conventional medicine physician isn’t going to recommend any of this -- nor will he or she even believe any of it. They've never been taught that massage is important for internal organs. In fact, most doctors I know don't think massage is useful at all, which sort of just goes to show you how little they know about how the human body really works! But massage is critical. And of course, so is nutrition. Once again, your best strategy here for your gall bladder is to avoid removing it. Instead, support gall bladder health through diet, nutrition, and physical exercise.

For the reader question in particular, if you've had the gall bladder removed, and you're having a lot of discomfort. What should you do now? I'm sorry to say that these are the predictable side effects of having a gall bladder removed. And chances are your doctor or surgeon probably didn't explain this fully to you. Surgeons have a habit of making everything sound really simple, up until the day you have the procedure done. Then, you start experiencing all sorts of rather serious side effects, and they say, "Oh yeah! That could happen as well."

Hopefully, in this experience, you've learned a lesson. And that lesson is, don’t have body parts removed by overzealous surgeons. I don’t know how to state it any simpler than that. I'm sorry I don’t have a simple solution for you to regain your health after having your gall bladder removed. But the fact is, when you start removing important organs from your body, it is going to have some serious negative consequences -- by the way, bloating and nausea is really only the tip of the iceberg here.

The worst effects are the ones you probably won't feel, that is, impaired digestion for the rest of your life and chronic essential fatty acid deficiencies. In fact, people without gall bladders need to take special care of the foods they consume for the rest of their lives. And above all, they need to avoid all fried foods and any snack foods containing hydrogenated oils or trans fatty acids due to the role of the gall bladder plays in neutralizing excess dietary cholesterol.
Look, I don't have a lot of time to address your concerns. I'll just leave it at the fact that ascending cholangitis is a common (20%) part of the natural course of gallbladder disease, and it is 100% fatal without treatment and 10% fatal with optimal treatment in a developed country. Even when not fatal, patients often require prolonged hospitalization, two procedures (ERCP and cholecystectomy), and develop substantial complications (renal failure and other complications of sepsis). Overall, if 120,000,000 people have gallbladder diseas (close to current estimates) and you treat none of them, 2,200,000 people will die of ascending cholangitis alone. This excludes other complications like pancreatitis, liver failure due to biliary tree obstruction, non-ascending cholangitis, etc, and the millions more that will live crippled from the complications of sepsis. If you want your father to die of a preventable disease like some pre-technology savage, sucking down berries and doing breathing exercises, that's on you. I don't care. I'm not here to provide you with medical advice or to defend the medical profession. I'm not a surgeon so I quite frankly couldn't care less.

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Re: Should your gallbladder ever be removed?

Post by starchild5 » April 13th, 2017, 3:04 am

Winston,

See, this is how the "Medical Profession" REPLIES. Don't have time, its your fault, you are the guilty one, you are going to kill your father if you don't do as the Medical Profession says.
I don't care. I'm not here to provide you with medical advice or to defend the medical profession. I'm not a surgeon so I quite frankly couldn't care less.
So Cliched..This is how majority of humanity rolls when confronted with some real questions :D ..You are a slave Winston...Who are you to question the incredibly profitable, trillion dollar Medical Mafia industry of America. :x :x

When confronted with solid Evidence from Natural News site who are doctors themselves and expose the medical fraud, many just fold up, blame the victim and move on with excuse of being busy.

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Well, being a Conspiracy "Tin Foil" Nutter I have all the time in the world. :)

The core problem is your father lived in America and had no choice but to eat all sorts of poison food...The problem developed over the years. I'm sure Native Americans never had to deal with Gallstones to such an extent nor cancer became a trillion dollar industry for Native American Tribes. :shock: :shock:

The actual life expectancy of Americans are 50, rest is to manage the disease and milk them till the 70s.

The other problem is, when the sh*t is about to hit the fan, people bring the "Traditional Medicine" into the picture and blame it when it does not work.

In order to make sure, these disease never comes to us, Asian Medicine always insist of Good Diet from birth itself...

Unfortunately, Humanity is made to reach a stage where he has to choose between rock and a hard place, otherwise, this American medical mafia would not be so confident to invest in Pharma business...They know...this is going to happen and we will have no choice when diagnosed but to seek Western Medicine ONLY. :( :(

This is a VERY VERY VERY bad place to be in and my entire work, thinking is we never reach such a stage.

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If your father is in extreme pain etc..you have to remove the gallstone by surgery. I think Rock went to China and got removed, you can ask where he did or may be in Taiwan its possible as well.

However, if it's not life threatening, then do not remove it, a good diet will bring your dad's PH level close to 7 and will be back to normal health. The entire game of western mafia is to disrupt our PH and take it as further away from 7 as possible....Both Acidic and Alkaline stage is VERY BAD. The more closer to 7 we are..The better....

Check your dads PH level...

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I was doing research on Food with Ph level 7 and thought that, if we have more food with 7 PH, we will be in prime health...That was just a theory untill I looked into the TWO foods that actually are 7 ...I was shocked beyond belief and amazed at the darkness of these elites.

The two Foods are 1. Soy & 2. Corn :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

http://www.pickyourown.org/ph_of_fruits ... s_list.htm

and these two are the target of Monsanto ...80% of Soy and 99% of Corn is GMO for THIS REASON ALONE.

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The reason Chinese were so healthy was because of their Number 1 staple food...SOY BEANS...which is the target for GMOs...80% of Chinese Soy is GMO...

Non-GMO Soy Milk, Tofu, Soy Sauce will 100% bring back your Dads health. Now, I know why Ancient Chinese were so obsessed with Soy and why Soy is now the target of these western Medical Mafia.

Give him NON-GMO Soybean Milk, Tofu etc anything related to Soy...and then after couple of weeks...check the gallstone and I'm very very certain that he will see marked improvement in his health.

I'm so certain of this Magic called Soy will work on your Dad that if it does not...I will stop posting anything related to medicine here and Apologise wholeheartedly to everyone.

Try to get this..Its the only one i could find from Thailand/Malaysia that is NON-GMO

http://www.lamsoongroup.com/prodHomesoy ... yaMilk.asp

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Soy is the BOMB...The weapon to cure western Mafia BS for the Chinese...It exactly does what copper do..bring your PH level to 7

The earth resonance frequency is 7.83 for this reason...Indian OM chanting is 7.83

Schumann Resonance...The game is to bring our frequency down...When we are in natural rhythm of 7...We will feel incredible..

Soy helps you reach that stage...
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Must Read

How America Killed Soy Milk
http://www.eater.com/2016/2/15/10995808 ... milk-fresh

BREAKING: Taiwan bans GMOs from school lunches... mandates GMO labeling nationwide... throws down gauntlet on toxic foods from USA and Monsanto

http://www.naturalnews.com/052589_Taiwa ... nches.html

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Re: Should your gallbladder ever be removed?

Post by HouseMD » April 13th, 2017, 3:25 am

starchild5 wrote:Winston,

See, this is how the "Medical Profession" REPLIES. Don't have time, its your fault, you are the guilty one, you are going to kill your father if you don't do as the Medical Profession says.
I don't care. I'm not here to provide you with medical advice or to defend the medical profession. I'm not a surgeon so I quite frankly couldn't care less.
So Cliched..This is how majority of humanity rolls when confronted with some real questions :D ..You are a slave Winston...Who are you to question the incredibly profitable, trillion dollar Medical Mafia industry of America. :x :x

When confronted with solid Evidence from Natural News site who are doctors themselves and expose the medical fraud, many just fold up, blame the victim and move on with excuse of being busy.

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Well, being a Conspiracy "Tin Foil" Nutter I have all the time in the world. :)

The core problem is your father lived in America and had no choice but to eat all sorts of poison food...The problem developed over the years. I'm sure Native Americans never had to deal with Gallstones to such an extent nor cancer became a trillion dollar industry for Native American Tribes. :shock: :shock:

The actual life expectancy of Americans are 50, rest is to manage the disease and milk them till the 70s.

The other problem is, when the sh*t is about to hit the fan, people bring the "Traditional Medicine" into the picture and blame it when it does not work.

In order to make sure, these disease never comes to us, Asian Medicine always insist of Good Diet from birth itself...

Unfortunately, Humanity is made to reach a stage where he has to choose between rock and a hard place, otherwise, this American medical mafia would not be so confident to invest in Pharma business...They know...this is going to happen and we will have no choice when diagnosed but to seek Western Medicine ONLY. :( :(

This is a VERY VERY VERY bad place to be in and my entire work, thinking is we never reach such a stage.

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If your father is in extreme pain etc..you have to remove the gallstone by surgery. I think Rock went to China and got removed, you can ask where he did or may be in Taiwan its possible as well.

However, if it's not life threatening, then do not remove it, a good diet will bring your dad's PH level close to 7 and will be back to normal health. The entire game of western mafia is to disrupt our PH and take it as further away from 7 as possible....Both Acidic and Alkaline stage is VERY BAD. The more closer to 7 we are..The better....

Check your dads PH level...

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I was doing research on Food with Ph level 7 and thought that, if we have more food with 7 PH, we will be in prime health...That was just a theory untill I looked into the TWO foods that actually are 7 ...I was shocked beyond belief and amazed at the darkness of these elites.

The two Foods are 1. Soy & 2. Corn :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

http://www.pickyourown.org/ph_of_fruits ... s_list.htm

and these two are the target of Monsanto ...80% of Soy and 99% of Corn is GMO for THIS REASON ALONE.

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The reason Chinese were so healthy was because of their Number 1 staple food...SOY BEANS...which is the target for GMOs...80% of Chinese Soy is GMO...

Non-GMO Soy Milk, Tofu, Soy Sauce will 100% bring back your Dads health. Now, I know why Ancient Chinese were so obsessed with Soy and why Soy is now the target of these western Medical Mafia.

Give him NON-GMO Soybean Milk, Tofu etc anything related to Soy...and then after couple of weeks...check the gallstone and I'm very very certain that he will see marked improvement in his health.

I'm so certain of this Magic called Soy will work on your Dad that if it does not...I will stop posting anything related to medicine here and Apologise wholeheartedly to everyone.

Try to get this..Its the only one i could find from Thailand/Malaysia that is NON-GMO

http://www.lamsoongroup.com/prodHomesoy ... yaMilk.asp

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Soy is the BOMB...The weapon to cure western Mafia BS for the Chinese...It exactly does what copper do..bring your PH level to 7

The earth resonance frequency is 7.83 for this reason...Indian OM chanting is 7.83

Schumann Resonance...The game is to bring our frequency down...When we are in natural rhythm of 7...We will feel incredible..

Soy helps you reach that stage...
--------------

Must Read

How America Killed Soy Milk
http://www.eater.com/2016/2/15/10995808 ... milk-fresh

BREAKING: Taiwan bans GMOs from school lunches... mandates GMO labeling nationwide... throws down gauntlet on toxic foods from USA and Monsanto

http://www.naturalnews.com/052589_Taiwa ... nches.html

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Re: Should your gallbladder ever be removed?

Post by Winston » April 13th, 2017, 9:01 am

HouseMD,
You missed my 5 questions i posted to you last night about gallbladder infections. They were specific questions from me, not any copy and paste from an article. See here:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=34818&p=290351#p290351

These are important questions. Please address them as best as you can. Thanks in advance.
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Re: Should your gallbladder ever be removed?

Post by Winston » April 13th, 2017, 9:08 am

Starchild,
So all soy bean milk in Taiwan in supermarkets are non GMO? I thought Taiwan was a puppet of the USA and believes whatever the US says. Lol

My dad doesn't have pain in his gallbladder. However the ultrasound does show that his gallbladder is badly infected, inflammed and enlarged and is close enough to his intestines to infect them as well. He asked three doctors, including one that he trusts, and they all recommended to remove his gallbladder soon.

Thats why i asked HouseMD the five questions above, which he apparently missed.

HouseMD,
What is cholangitis?

If many people die from gallbladder disease then how come you never hear of famous historical people dying from it? How come Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson or George Washington for example, never had infected gallbladders or cancer? Is it because they all ate organic food from farms?
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Re: Should your gallbladder ever be removed?

Post by MrMan » April 13th, 2017, 10:36 am

Winston wrote:Starchild,
So all soy bean milk in Taiwan in supermarkets are non GMO? I thought Taiwan was a puppet of the USA and believes whatever the US says. Lol

My dad doesn't have pain in his gallbladder. However the ultrasound does show that his gallbladder is badly infected, inflammed and enlarged and is close enough to his intestines to infect them as well. He asked three doctors, including one that he trusts, and they all recommended to remove his gallbladder soon.

Thats why i asked HouseMD the five questions above, which he apparently missed.

HouseMD,
What is cholangitis?

If many people die from gallbladder disease then how come you never hear of famous historical people dying from it? How come Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson or George Washington for example, never had infected gallbladders or cancer? Is it because they all ate organic food from farms?
Or they just didn't have the technology to know which internal organ was hurting. Washington could have died after he had gallbladder problems, or appendix problems, or something else could have been infected. I recall my history teacher saying he died from a fever. An infected organ can call that (though he'd probably have abdominal pain, too, for some of the afflictions I listed.) He had a slave bleed him because they believed in the four humors back there, and a fever was supposed to mean you had to much blood and needed to get rid of it. The doctor came and bled him again.

So he could have died from the fever, whatever cause the fever, or he could have died from blood loss.

I heard on the news that a cut could stimulate some aspect of the immune system that fights against certain types of bacterial infections. Maybe that's why it caught on, but they were using it for things that didn't help based on a flawed medical theory.

We know people die from gall bladder infections now because doctors have the knowledge to diagnose it.

But dying from gall bladder problems may have been less common because they ate less sugar, fewer processed foods, and more natural, healthy food. They probably got more exercise, too back then.

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Re: Should your gallbladder ever be removed?

Post by HouseMD » April 13th, 2017, 12:24 pm

Winston wrote:HouseMD,
You missed my 5 questions i posted to you last night about gallbladder infections. They were specific questions from me, not any copy and paste from an article. See here:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=34818&p=290351#p290351

These are important questions. Please address them as best as you can. Thanks in advance.
I didn't miss them. I don't have time for them. I gave you a brief answer.

As to historical issues, generally when someone died back in the day they didn't know what killed them. We didn't perform autopsies, and without sophisticated tests all sepsis looks the same. Many diseases carried the same names, as people didn't know whether cancer was killing you or tuberculosis. Cancer was less of an issue (but still highly prevalent) in history due to the fact that peak cancer incidence is at the age of 65, while life expectancy didn't break the 40s until quite recently. It's not that people wouldn't get cancer, it's that they usually died of something else before they got the chance. But cancer was still a thing, and has been described in ancient texts all the way back to the Egyptians (read the Emperor of All Maladies if you're interested in a history of cancer).
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Re: Should your gallbladder ever be removed?

Post by starchild5 » April 14th, 2017, 4:31 am

Winston wrote:Starchild,
So all soy bean milk in Taiwan in supermarkets are non GMO? I thought Taiwan was a puppet of the USA and believes whatever the US says. Lol

My dad doesn't have pain in his gallbladder. However the ultrasound does show that his gallbladder is badly infected, inflammed and enlarged and is close enough to his intestines to infect them as well. He asked three doctors, including one that he trusts, and they all recommended to remove his gallbladder soon.

Thats why i asked HouseMD the five questions above, which he apparently missed.

HouseMD,
What is cholangitis?

If many people die from gallbladder disease then how come you never hear of famous historical people dying from it? How come Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson or George Washington for example, never had infected gallbladders or cancer? Is it because they all ate organic food from farms?
India, Taiwan, Thailand, Malaysia, Japan are the only counties with Non-GMO soy, but Thailand has some field trials of soy.

The history of Soy by ancient chinese is incredible..they used it as far back as 13, 000 BC which lamestream media admits ...I think it goes way way back...

So much negative media on Soy as well the number 1 target of GMO along with Corn should raise suspicion already..Soy & Corn is the most GMO'ed food on earth and they have a Ph of 7 almost as the same as Resonance frequency of earth 7.83..

Soy will bring your body closer to Zero Point Energy Field...The Vacuum of Space..

With Soy...Yin and Yang will be balanced... The problem according to ancient chinese texts is imbalance of Ying and Yang..Soy helps to bridge that gap that is why the obsession of it by the ancient chinese...

Forget that...I'm truly shocked how the hell these properties American elites knew and the timing of it all...This is the time...we will shift dimensions and go to lesser density and good vibration and they knew what to attack so that we misss this time line itself...

Its very very important that we bring our body vibration to Yin and Yang In Equal Balance at this point in time.

https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_ ... man_10.htm

YIN and YANG

During his research Dr Ludwig came across the ancient Chinese teachings which state that Man needs two environmental signals:
the YANG (masculine) signal from above
the YIN (feminine) signal from below
This description fits the relatively strong signal of the Schumann wave surrounding our planet being YANG and the weaker geomagnetic waves coming from below, from within the planet, being the YIN signal.

The Chinese teachings state that to achieve perfect health, both signals must be in balance.

Dr Ludwig found that this is indeed the case. He writes in his book 'Informative Medizin' that research carried out by E. Jacobi at the University of Duesseldorf showed that the one sided use of Schumann (YANG) wave simulation without the geomagnetic (YIN) signal caused serious health problems.

On the other hand, the absence of Schumann waves creates a similar situation.

Professor R. Wever from the Max Planck Institute for Behavioral Physiology in Erling-Andechs, built an underground bunker which completely screened out magnetic fields. Student volunteers lived there for four weeks in this hermetically sealed environment.

Professor Wever noted that the student's circadian rhythms diverged and that they suffered emotional distress and migraine headaches. As they were young and healthy, no serious health conditions arose, which would not have been the case with older people or people with a compromised immune system.

After only a brief exposure to 7.8 Hz (the very frequency which had been screened out), the volunteers health stabilized again.

The same complaints were reported by the first astronauts and cosmonauts, who, out in space, also were no longer exposed to the Schumann waves. Now modern spacecrafts are said to contain a device which simulates the Schumann waves.

All the aforesaid points to the fact that the ancient teachings are correct.

Mankind depends on two subtle environmental signals,
the Yin from below
the Yang from above

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We must must have Soy and Corn..The Non-GMO one...It will bring our body to perfect state of balance...

Give your dad Soy Milk, Tofu, anything soy for couple of weeks and I'm 1000% certain...his health will improve...

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Re: Should your gallbladder ever be removed?

Post by Winston » April 17th, 2017, 7:01 pm

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Winston wrote:HouseMD,
You missed my 5 questions i posted to you last night about gallbladder infections. They were specific questions from me, not any copy and paste from an article. See here:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=34818&p=290351#p290351

These are important questions. Please address them as best as you can. Thanks in advance.
I didn't miss them. I don't have time for them. I gave you a brief answer.

As to historical issues, generally when someone died back in the day they didn't know what killed them. We didn't perform autopsies, and without sophisticated tests all sepsis looks the same. Many diseases carried the same names, as people didn't know whether cancer was killing you or tuberculosis. Cancer was less of an issue (but still highly prevalent) in history due to the fact that peak cancer incidence is at the age of 65, while life expectancy didn't break the 40s until quite recently. It's not that people wouldn't get cancer, it's that they usually died of something else before they got the chance. But cancer was still a thing, and has been described in ancient texts all the way back to the Egyptians (read the Emperor of All Maladies if you're interested in a history of cancer).
You didn't answer them at all. Can you please answer them? They are important questions. If you don't have time, just answer one or two questions per day please. Here they are again.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=34818&p=290351#p290351
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Re: Should your gallbladder ever be removed?

Post by HouseMD » April 17th, 2017, 7:30 pm

Winston wrote:
HouseMD wrote:
Winston wrote:HouseMD,
You missed my 5 questions i posted to you last night about gallbladder infections. They were specific questions from me, not any copy and paste from an article. See here:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=34818&p=290351#p290351

These are important questions. Please address them as best as you can. Thanks in advance.
I didn't miss them. I don't have time for them. I gave you a brief answer.

As to historical issues, generally when someone died back in the day they didn't know what killed them. We didn't perform autopsies, and without sophisticated tests all sepsis looks the same. Many diseases carried the same names, as people didn't know whether cancer was killing you or tuberculosis. Cancer was less of an issue (but still highly prevalent) in history due to the fact that peak cancer incidence is at the age of 65, while life expectancy didn't break the 40s until quite recently. It's not that people wouldn't get cancer, it's that they usually died of something else before they got the chance. But cancer was still a thing, and has been described in ancient texts all the way back to the Egyptians (read the Emperor of All Maladies if you're interested in a history of cancer).
You didn't answer them at all. Can you please answer them? They are important questions. If you don't have time, just answer one or two questions per day please. Here they are again.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=34818&p=290351#p290351
I already answered the things I care to answer. I don't have enough time to address every pile of nonsense the internet throws my way.

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