Would Winston be happier abroad in Europe?

[publicduende]

Btw @publicduende i dont agree that people everywhere consider you a bum if you don't have regular employment from an employer. Lots of people nowadays make a living online through a website, ecommerce, vlog channel or blog. So its a new fad and popular now. Especially with travelers and freespirits. Im sure you know that. Sure Chinese women havent caught onto it yet and they still a real job is necessary to look normal. Some Chinese women told me that too. But in western countries online business is a new trend.

Im sure you know all this so why did you say the world will look down on you if you dont have a real job or are nonconformist? No one calls themselves a conformist anyway. That's a word only nonconformists use. But conformists dont see the world in terms of such labels.

Look, you are free to believe whatever you want. My only advice would be: do not invest too much, psychologically, logistically and financially, in a long trip to Europe, or in a plan to settle there.

You are basing yourself on some fading memories of your time in Russia and ex-Soviet countries as far back as 13 years ago. As some of us, including Eurobrat, have been telling you, things have changed. You are a lot older and the age gap with any of the girl you may want to hang out with and date will be more apparent. As gsjackson and momopi also hinted, the mobile/social media zombification did not spare those societies, either.

Go to Spain, Italy or even Latvia now and you are much more likely to find young people roaming the street buried in their earphones, moving from A to B with little intention to be entertained or distracted. Sure, some of them will be polite enough to give you a couple of smiles and exchange a couple of passing lines with you.

If you want to take that as an indication of a superior cultural affinity, or interest in you or in taking thing further, once again, be my guest. It is a bit delusional on my book.

Yes, true, "old Europe" has unparalleled cultural legacy in its architecture, its museums, some of its institutions. You can get lost walking around old towns, admiring churches and buildings that belonged to powerful families often at war against one another. The vestiges of the past can be more easily absorbed by the kind of culturally-perceptive man you are.

And here's where your "extension" should stop. You are giving the people of Europe, most people at least, the same qualities as their old and grandiose cities. It's romantic, it's flattering, but it's not true.

Eurobrat played by that fallacy and chose Italy, the masterpiece, the cradle of European culture, for the first of his old world adventures. You can ask him for details - I am sure it's no painful anymore for him to recount, after several years - but it wasn't easy. Como is a truly beautiful mid-sized city between the lake and the mountain and not so far from one of the most bustling and interesting cities, Milan. He couldn't connect with anyone beyond his lukewarm Italian flatmate and an Albanian barista.

I remember talking to his flatmate and asking him what the problem was: his answer was quick and laser-sharp: EB had a relatively easy work-from-home job that allowed him to go out in the afternoon - while everybody else was working. To him, it was quite clear that the only people he would find sitting in bars or roaming the streets would be poor migrants and other "culturally less significant" people who were indifferent to him.

That child-like curiosity in meeting and talking to strangers, it's gone and it won't be back. What is left, especially at my/your/our age, is that we either project the image of serious men who are in in business and fully invested in living in that specific place in Europe, or we will be immediately seen as freaks, outcasts, and ignored consequently.

Also, I repeat one more time, it's taboo for a 40-something to start casual conversations with girls 15/20 years that are not limited to functional goals, like asking for directions or maybe the name of a good restaurants. Whether it's Barcelona, Rome o Riga, those girls won't engage you. Or they might give you a smile and a quick answer and brush you off. There are ways to socialise in Europe, like everywhere else in the world, and it's based on social circles, or specific contexts that are designed to introduce "newcomer expats" to the locals. More or less what I told you about Internations in Manila.

I hope this ends my side of the topic. I really can't be clearer on this and I am sure HA-ers from Europe will back me to some extent. Europe isn't that hidden, secret panacea for your socio-intellectual-romantic needs.

[gsjackson]

Btw @publicduende i dont agree that people everywhere consider you a bum if you don't have regular employment from an employer. Lots of people nowadays make a living online through a website, ecommerce, vlog channel or blog. So its a new fad and popular now. Especially with travelers and freespirits. Im sure you know that. Sure Chinese women havent caught onto it yet and they still a real job is necessary to look normal. Some Chinese women told me that too. But in western countries online business is a new trend.

Im sure you know all this so why did you say the world will look down on you if you dont have a real job or are nonconformist? No one calls themselves a conformist anyway. That's a word only nonconformists use. But conformists dont see the world in terms of such labels.

Look, you are free to believe whatever you want. My only advice would be: do not invest too much, psychologically, logistically and financially, in a long trip to Europe, or in a plan to settle there.

You are basing yourself on some fading memories of your time in Russia and ex-Soviet countries as far back as 13 years ago. As some of us, including Eurobrat, have been telling you, things have changed. You are a lot older and the age gap with any of the girl you may want to hang out with and date will be more apparent. As gsjackson and momopi also hinted, the mobile/social media zombification did not spare those societies, either.

Go to Spain, Italy or even Latvia now and you are much more likely to find young people roaming the street buried in their earphones, moving from A to B with little intention to be entertained or distracted. Sure, some of them will be polite enough to give you a couple of smiles and exchange a couple of passing lines with you.

If you want to take that as an indication of a superior cultural affinity, or interest in you or in taking thing further, once again, be my guest. It is a bit delusional on my book.

Yes, true, "old Europe" has unparalleled cultural legacy in its architecture, its museums, some of its institutions. You can get lost walking around old towns, admiring churches and buildings that belonged to powerful families often at war against one another. The vestiges of the past can be more easily absorbed by the kind of culturally-perceptive man you are.

And here's where your "extension" should stop. You are giving the people of Europe, most people at least, the same qualities as their old and grandiose cities. It's romantic, it's flattering, but it's not true.

Eurobrat played by that fallacy and chose Italy, the masterpiece, the cradle of European culture, for the first of his old world adventures. You can ask him for details - I am sure it's no painful anymore for him to recount, after several years - but it wasn't easy. Como is a truly beautiful mid-sized city between the lake and the mountain and not so far from one of the most bustling and interesting cities, Milan. He couldn't connect with anyone beyond his lukewarm Italian flatmate and an Albanian barista.

I remember talking to his flatmate and asking him what the problem was: his answer was quick and laser-sharp: EB had a relatively easy work-from-home job that allowed him to go out in the afternoon - while everybody else was working. To him, it was quite clear that the only people he would find sitting in bars or roaming the streets would be poor migrants and other "culturally less significant" people who were indifferent to him.

That child-like curiosity in meeting and talking to strangers, it's gone and it won't be back. What is left, especially at my/your/our age, is that we either project the image of serious men who are in in business and fully invested in living in that specific place in Europe, or we will be immediately seen as freaks, outcasts, and ignored consequently.

Also, I repeat one more time, it's taboo for a 40-something to start casual conversations with girls 15/20 years that are not limited to functional goals, like asking for directions or maybe the name of a good restaurants. Whether it's Barcelona, Rome o Riga, those girls won't engage you. Or they might give you a smile and a quick answer and brush you off. There are ways to socialise in Europe, like everywhere else in the world, and it's based on social circles, or specific contexts that are designed to introduce "newcomer expats" to the locals. More or less what I told you about Internations in Manila.

I hope this ends my side of the topic. I really can't be clearer on this and I am sure HA-ers from Europe will back me to some extent. Europe isn't that hidden, secret panacea for your socio-intellectual-romantic needs.

I'm generally in agreement with everything pd says about this, but a certain discount must be made for his often almost comical pessimism. Most of us remember the thread where he cried and cried about the impossibility of finding a particular type of relationship in the Phils -- until he found it. And found it as his efforts to integrate into Phil society, at least business-wise, were coming a cropper. At one point in this legendary thread, he had written off the relationship with C when it was pretty clear to an unbiased observer that he still had a shot.

I don't think it's taboo to talk to younger women in Europe. As anywhere, if you're hitting on a woman you need a reasonably accurate assessment of your own socio-sexual appeal. But optimism and confidence sometimes can take you further than by rights you should go. There are countless examples of men who, as they say in the U.S., outkicked their coverage in landing a very attractive woman. And Winston is used to rolling with the punches, as any cold approacher has to be.

So, yes, temper expectations, Winston, but be your outgoing, unreasonably confident self. But do start lifting and get in shape. It would make a world of difference.

[publicduende]

I'm generally in agreement with everything pd says about this, but a certain discount must be made for his often almost comical pessimism. Most of us remember the thread where he cried and cried about the impossibility of finding a particular type of relationship in the Phils -- until he found it. And found it as his efforts to integrate into Phil society, at least business-wise, were coming a cropper. At one point in this legendary thread, he had written off the relationship with C when it was pretty clear to an unbiased observer that he still had a shot.

I don't think it's taboo to talk to younger women in Europe. As anywhere, if you're hitting on a woman you need a reasonably accurate assessment of your own socio-sexual appeal. But optimism and confidence sometimes can take you further than by rights you should go. There are countless examples of men who, as they say in the U.S., outkicked their coverage in landing a very attractive woman. And Winston is used to rolling with the punches, as any cold approacher has to be.

So, yes, temper expectations, Winston, but be your outgoing, unreasonably confident self. But do start lifting and get in shape. It would make a world of difference.

LOL with hindsight, that thread, and that entire exercise in depression of mine, was almost comical.

I was really going through a rough patch with the company closure and all. Dating-wise, the missing element was Manila. I couldn't find who I wanted in Davao. When I introduced C to some of the hi/upper-middle-soc ladies at the Rotary at an official event, they all - in a more or less veiled way - got surprised that a man like me could get a girl like her. A girl who, in their minds, is "reserved" to local boys, at the better ones at that!

Back to the Euro topic, though, I am just being honest about an environment I perhaps know a bit more than Winston and the US crew and I need to be objective about. Europe isn't the cradle of beautiful, traditional girls as some of you want to believe. Perhaps if one goes to small towns in Central Europe one can find a girl whose brain wasn't melted by the whole mobile/selfie/Instagram craze. Even then, dating her wouldn't be easy, given the distance, her roots with her family etc.

What Winston would find hardest to digest, were he to visit Europe, is the barrier for those who don't have prior friendships or acquaintances in the location they visit. "Lucky" casual encounters are perhaps relegated at clubs/discos and specific nightlife spots. Spots where, I am afraid, Winston wouldn't exactly have an edge.

The dating/social site avenue is worth trying, but again, there is so much competition for the few girls who are interested in dating a foreigner.

Just like I with C, the odds are there but very slim. I wouldn't want to invest on a long trip to Europe (from Taiwan or the Philippines), without proper financial backing and a plan, just in the hope to find a couple of meaningful encounters. I know Winston likes to show off (often by taking pics and videos) encounters where cute young women respond to his approaches, even just with a "hi". Yet, in my book at least, two or three of such successful approaches would be a meager ROI on a relatively long and expensive trip.

My 2 Euro cents, obviously...

[Winston]

But @publicduende i told you. Regardless of dating scene i can be happy in Europe for the other reasons i mentioned. Remember? Are you deaf? How many times do i have to explain that?

Again see below:

In summary, i like european culture more because:
1. I like its history and architecture and old towns.
2. I like museums and castles.
3. I like european folk music.
4. I like colder cooler weather and its fresher air.
5. The energy and vibe is more positive and my soul can feed off it which makes me feel more alive and positive and in my element too.
6. The mentality of europeans is more similar to mine. Whereas asians believe that the object of life is making money and having a career, europeans believe the goal of life is to have a rich variety of experiences, which is how i think too.

In contrast, in Asia:
1. The architecture is drab and ugly with no soul. All that matters is money and practicality. Soul doesnt matter.
2. Most cities are polluted. Because productivity and profit are all that matter. Air quality doesnt.
3. The weather sucks and is usually hot and humid, the worst combination. I detest hot sticky air.
4. NE asian girls look very cold, overly serious and uptight. That turns me off. I like people who are laid back and carefree and open. So our vibes conflict.
5. The people are purely pragmatic and practical. And their conversation is limited to practicality only. They seem to have a hive mind and dont understand why I'm not connected to it.

Do you understand that list???!!!

Also i told you: YOU ARE NOT GOD! You cannot predict with 100 percent certainty that i would be disappointed in Europe. What if you're wrong? Why do you act all knowing? You are not psychic or intuitive either.

We all know that every man has a different experience. Right? Some western men even thrive in Japan or China or Korea, despite those cultures treating foreigners as outsiders.

Did u consider that? Did you?

Also a place cannot change 100 percent. Not even the USA is 100 percent different compared to 2005. Some core fundamentals always remain. Plus u guys tend to be on the pessimistic side. Pessimists are only right 50 percent of the time or less. Not most of the time.

Also you forget i have novelty appeal in Europe. And in Russia and FSU too of course. And i have more in common with european mentality. So why dont u ever take that into consideration? Are you deaf and dumb? Its friggin annoying having to repeat everything to you! Geez!

Also my buddy Robert is still in Prague. He has a wife and son there now. And a band that he plays with. Hes happy there. How do you explain that? Hes definitely a more positive and social and more outgoing bubbly guy than @eurobrat is. So maybe thats why he attracts more positive experiences than eurobrat does. Did you consider that? Not every man is equal you know. Even if they're the same age. We are not all the same! Geez!

Btw did you know i introduced my buddy robert to his band? I met the band on a train. You know why? Because I'm GOOD at meeting people in europe. Just because you or eurobrat suck at it doesnt mean i do. @Adama said in another thread that i have a certain MOJO that other guys dont have. So i am definitely not an average guy. My buddy robert in prague can attest to that too. He will tell you im a natural cold approacher because hes seen it firsthand.

Obviously this means that the strangers i meet are not all superficial and meaningless. Sometimes it leads to something concrete as it did with my buddy Robert, who to this day still plays with the band i introduced him to in 2005.

Also I've had deep meaningful conversations with british women too, in Poland. So they are not all what you claim and not all the same. Firsthand experience is everything. Words dont compare.

Also it sounds like you never been to eastern europe. And you are not a cold approacher like me and roosh are. So you dont have experience with it even.

Also everyone knows that Europeans are a lot more open to talking to strangers than americans are. I noticed this during my Southwest USA road trips too. So european strangers always talk to me. Even if they are older men or couples who talk to me, so what? Its better than nothing right? At least i wont feel like i dont exist. Thats a good thing right?

Did you consider that? What if youre wrong? Youre not infallible right?

Im sorry but my experiences with europeans since 2002 do not fit what you say. So i gotta take your feedback with a big chunk of salt. Your words dont match my MANY experiences throughout life. Total mismatch. That makes me highly skeptical. Im sure you would feel the same in my shoes.

Remember the bottom line is that all of my REAL LIFE EXPERIENCES trump any negative opinions you may have Publicduende. Im certainly not gonna place your opinions over my direct experience. Im sure if you were in my shoes you would go by your experiences too. Anyone else in my shoes would do the same.

Comprende? Kapishe?

[Winston]

Also @publicduende, remember that there are many cases of westerners going to a specific country like Japan for instance, or even Afganistan, because they have an affinity for the culture and people. Among such people, whether they find a romantic partner or not, either way they are still pretty happy there and in their element. Im sure you know of such cases. They are well documented and some of these expats end up writing books about their chosen new host culture.

So why do you not take this into account in my case? Why the strong bias against Europe? Why is everything all about girls to you? Why are you so one dimensional? Most europeans I've met are not as narrow and biased as you seem to be. So you are unusual in that sense.

Also Publicduende, when you are happy and in your element, luck and chance tend to help you out. A lot more meaningful coincidences happen. And a lot of chance encounters with people will help you and be favorable to you. This is mentioned often in spiritual books and self-help books and new age books. And many real life examples are cited by the authors. Even the great mythologist joseph campbell said that too.

So why didnt you consider that? Why dont you read more and acquire wisdom like i do? How can you not be aware of such things that spiritual people know about?! If you were smart or spiritual you would already know these things right?

[publicduende]

But @publicduende i told you. Regardless of dating scene i can be happy in Europe for the other reasons i mentioned. Remember? Are you deaf? How many times do i have to explain that?

Again see below:

In summary, i like european culture more because:
1. I like its history and architecture and old towns.
2. I like museums and castles.
3. I like european folk music.
4. I like colder cooler weather and its fresher air.
5. The energy and vibe is more positive and my soul can feed off it which makes me feel more alive and positive and in my element too.
6. The mentality of europeans is more similar to mine. Whereas asians believe that the object of life is making money and having a career, europeans believe the goal of life is to have a rich variety of experiences, which is how i think too.

In contrast, in Asia:
1. The architecture is drab and ugly with no soul. All that matters is money and practicality. Soul doesnt matter.
2. Most cities are polluted. Because productivity and profit are all that matter. Air quality doesnt.
3. The weather sucks and is usually hot and humid, the worst combination. I detest hot sticky air.
4. NE asian girls look very cold, overly serious and uptight. That turns me off. I like people who are laid back and carefree and open. So our vibes conflict.
5. The people are purely pragmatic and practical. And their conversation is limited to practicality only. They seem to have a hive mind and dont understand why I'm not connected to it.

Do you understand that list???!!!

@Winston, I hate repeating myself to exhaustion and when you start sounding aggressive as if we are all doing you a favour in giving you advice (and not the other way around), it's not so much fun anymore.

No problem about the architecture, the museums and the legacy, I have mentioned that myself as a big plus and we are all in agreement.

The problem with you being in Europe right now is: assuming you are not choosing to live in a remote village in Eastern Europe, you need money, at least $2,000 a month I would say, to live a decent life in Europe: rent a not too shabby place close to civilisation, buy quality food and be able to plan sporadic travelling around (train and air tickets, mostly).

Unless your passive income is at those levels and you can count on it every single month, you would need to have a job. Maybe a local job, if you manage to arrange a work Visa, maybe an online job beyond HA.

Once you'll start working, like most of us, you will realise that all the free time you have to pursue your philosophical/spiritual endeavours will be greatly reduced. Yes, the weather is only hot and humid 1 or 2 months a year but during those winters (which can be quite long and daunting in Northern Europe) commuting to work or going out will be a lot less pleasant than you can imagine.

What makes you think that we Europeans are more soulful and ready to connect? I mean, you can always strike a casual conversation on a train or flight, but if those people won't become good friends and involve you in their nightlife activities if they feel they don't have much in common with you, besides that one-off conversation.

Especially with the social/financial crisis most Euro countries are in right now, all I see is people being gloomier, more distrustful and buried in their daily routines. Yes you could try the smaller towns but the price to pay would be less interesting people, less English speakers and less people open enough to want to connect with you on a regular basis.

Despite what GSjackson said, it's not so common for men in their mid-40s to hang out regularly with girls and even men in their late twenties or early thirties. The only exception would be if you are part of a church or charity group, where you are bound together by that common mission or goal. You would find it hard to find the company of young people, especially women. You might end up feeling alone, awfully alone, which in the set-up of cold weather and the responsibility of working everyday to pay the bills, isn't such an enticing proposition.

Most of the interesting, educated, English-speaking people you could hang out might perhaps be retired academics or teachers, people with a house fool of books and enough time to spare to invite you regularly to their places or a coffee shop and have those kinds of deep conversations you and me love to have.

Also i told you: YOU ARE NOT GOD! You cannot predict with 100 percent certainty that i would be disappointed in Europe. What if you're wrong? Why do you act all knowing? You are not psychic or intuitive either.

We all know that every man has a different experience. Right? Some western men even thrive in Japan or China or Korea, despite those cultures treating foreigners as outsiders.

Did u consider that? Did you?

Also a place cannot change 100 percent. Not even the USA is 100 percent different compared to 2005. Some core fundamentals always remain. Plus u guys tend to be on the pessimistic side. Pessimists are only right 50 percent of the time or less. Not most of the time.

Also you forget i have novelty appeal in Europe. And in Russia and FSU too of course. And i have more in common with european mentality. So why dont u ever take that into consideration? Are you deaf and dumb? Its friggin annoying having to repeat everything to you! Geez!

13 years did a lot to Europe as a collective of nations, that much I can guarantee you! What we are witnessing in Europe is the disintegration of the socio-economic contract that the European Union and the Euro have been. There is rising populism everywhere, which means automatically less sympathy for migrants and foreigners in general. Most countries are more mired in debt than they have ever been. France has nosedived at breakneck speed, Spain is virtually bankrupt after several estate and banking bubble busts.

The only countries that are perhaps doing a bit better are Poland, Hungary, maybe Estonia. Even Prague is too expensive to enjoy if you don't have a decent job.

Yes you don't look like a European (Caucasian) man so some curiosity about your background and what you do will be there. Still...is that enough to get random people to taking more than a passing interest in you and include you in their social circles, so you can have a stable social life and find your soulmate? Not too sure about that. I am not being pessimistic, I am being a realist.

Also my buddy Robert is still in Prague. He has a wife and son there now. And a band that he plays with. Hes happy there. How do you explain that? Hes definitely a more positive and social and more outgoing bubbly guy than @eurobrat is. So maybe thats why he attracts more positive experiences than eurobrat does. Did you consider that? Not every man is equal you know. Even if they're the same age. We are not all the same! Geez!

Btw did you know i introduced my buddy robert to his band? I met the band on a train. You know why? Because I'm GOOD at meeting people in europe. Just because you or eurobrat suck at it doesnt mean i do. @Adama said in another thread that i have a certain MOJO that other guys dont have. So i am definitely not an average guy. My buddy robert in prague can attest to that too. He will tell you im a natural cold approacher because hes seen it firsthand.

Obviously this means that the strangers i meet are not all superficial and meaningless. Sometimes it leads to something concrete as it did with my buddy Robert, who to this day still plays with the band i introduced him to in 2005.

Good for your friend Robert. I assume he doesn't spent his days playing with the band. He will have a spouse Visa and a job there, to support his family. In his spare, he enjoys Prague (a city I myself adore, if it wasn't for the cold weather most year round).

Nobody doubts your tendency to start casual conversations, be it with men or women. Once again, to repeat myself: is this "bite & go" approach going to be good enough to give you a decent social life, let alone a love life?

Also I've had deep meaningful conversations with british women too, in Poland. So they are not all what you claim and not all the same. Firsthand experience is everything. Words dont compare.

Also it sounds like you never been to eastern europe. And you are not a cold approacher like me and roosh are. So you dont have experience with it even.

Also everyone knows that Europeans are a lot more open to talking to strangers than americans are. I noticed this during my Southwest USA road trips too. So european strangers always talk to me. Even if they are older men or couples who talk to me, so what? Its better than nothing right? At least i wont feel like i dont exist. Thats a good thing right?

LOL that's the other thing we don't agree on! What's the point of moving thousands of kilometers away to strike casual conversations with old people? They are notoriously those high both on knowledge and time to spare. Of course they will be engaging with you.

I don't do cold approaches because they suck and only make you feel like a total fool, especially when you do it at our age. We need meaningful social contexts to meet meaningful people who are open to socialising. Every city offers a few, so that is not a problem. The casual chitchat that grooms you ego is simply not enough of a reason to proclaim "all of a community/country/continent" is more pleasant, soulful and friendly.

Did you consider that? What if youre wrong? Youre not infallible right?

Im sorry but my experiences with europeans since 2002 do not fit what you say. So i gotta take your feedback with a big chunk of salt. Your words dont match my MANY experiences throughout life. Total mismatch. That makes me highly skeptical. Im sure you would feel the same in my shoes.

Remember the bottom line is that all of my REAL LIFE EXPERIENCES trump any negative opinions you may have Publicduende. Im certainly not gonna place your opinions over my direct experience. Im sure if you were in my shoes you would go by your experiences too. Anyone else in my shoes would do the same.

Comprende? Kapishe?

Right, feel free to seek confirmation about what I told (or didn't tell you) by moving to Europe some time soon. Meeting European during their holidays or free time is one thing, trying to interact with them while they're sunk deep into their life routines is another. Living in Europe as a tourist is one thing, settling there for a long period of time, is another.

I don't even know if you will ever move to Europe. If this is just a purely academic conversation, I guess your opinion is as good as mine.

[publicduende]

Also @publicduende, remember that there are many cases of westerners going to a specific country like Japan for instance, or even Afganistan, because they have an affinity for the culture and people. Among such people, whether they find a romantic partner or not, either way they are still pretty happy there and in their element. Im sure you know of such cases. They are well documented and some of these expats end up writing books about their chosen new host culture.

So why do you not take this into account in my case? Why the strong bias against Europe? Why is everything all about girls to you? Why are you so one dimensional? Most europeans I've met are not as narrow and biased as you seem to be. So you are unusual in that sense.

Also Publicduende, when you are happy and in your element, luck and chance tend to help you out. A lot more meaningful coincidences happen. And a lot of chance encounters with people will help you and be favorable to you. This is mentioned often in spiritual books and self-help books and new age books. And many real life examples are cited by the authors. Even the great mythologist joseph campbell said that too.

So why didnt you consider that? Why dont you read more and acquire wisdom like i do? How can you not be aware of such things that spiritual people know about?! If you were smart or spiritual you would already know these things right?

I stopped reading books on spirituality and conspiracies because I don't have the time right now. I do agree with you that being more tuned to the environment and people helps making one feel better and more motivated to go ahead. That's what I did here in the Philippines, for the first year or so, at least. Too bad I realised, like most, that I was being way too naive and lots of people were noticing and taking advantage of me, my time, my effort and...my cash.

My wisdom, if it is, is in being pragmatic and looking at things at face value. My observation of Europe is at face value. I am actually less biased than you, not more. Of course it's not just about the girls, and that is my point exactly: what would you do, living in the same European city where many people don't speak English so well and they're too busy to talk to you in that deep and meaningful way you love?

The risk I see is that you would end up starving of human connection and feed off lots of little casual moments which, for refreshing they might be, won't add much in the way of having a fulfilling life in Europe.

Anyway...we all know this is pour parler and the obscure laws of the Universe and Murphy will never let you travel to Europe.

[publicduende]

...this is a recent statement from Viktor Orban of Hungary.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08- ... ild-europe

...I have formulated five tenets for the project of building up Central Europe.

The first is that every European country has the right to defend its Christian culture, and the right to reject the ideology of multiculturalism.

Our second tenet is that every country has the right to defend the traditional family model, and is entitled to assert that every child has the right to a mother and a father.

The third Central European tenet is that every Central European country has the right to defend the nationally strategic economic sectors and markets which are of crucial importance to it.

The fourth tenet is that every country has the right to defend its borders, and it has the right to reject immigration.

And the fifth tenet is that every European country has the right to insist on the principle of one nation, one vote on the most important issues, and that this right must not be denied in the European Union.[/quote[

[gsjackson]

...this is a recent statement from Viktor Orban of Hungary.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08- ... ild-europe

...I have formulated five tenets for the project of building up Central Europe.

The first is that every European country has the right to defend its Christian culture, and the right to reject the ideology of multiculturalism.

Our second tenet is that every country has the right to defend the traditional family model, and is entitled to assert that every child has the right to a mother and a father.

The third Central European tenet is that every Central European country has the right to defend the nationally strategic economic sectors and markets which are of crucial importance to it.

The fourth tenet is that every country has the right to defend its borders, and it has the right to reject immigration.

And the fifth tenet is that every European country has the right to insist on the principle of one nation, one vote on the most important issues, and that this right must not be denied in the European Union.

This is the reason Hungary is on my list of places to go. You must have seen in the UK what multiculturalism does to a country. It's certainly evident in the U.S. -- culture degrades down to a lowest common denominator, to the point where you can't even stand to look at the people any more, let alone talk to them. The public discourse consists entirely of literal insanity.

The EU is a banker project, intended to move things along toward ever more centralized control. In short, Jewish rule. Deliberately degrading national cultures is very much a part of that project. The zombification of the population has coincided with the existence of the EU, and I'm not so sure that's just a coincidence. The phones are part of the centralized control.

Maybe it's too much to hope for, but one can at least entertain the idea that in countries becoming ever more aware of this, such as Hungary and Poland, women will return to the wisdom of the ages, including the need for strong relationships with men, and living in the real (not virtual) world. Such women may actually still exist in Poland today. That was my impression, one that Eurobrat may share.

Since Winston's obviously not from the middle east, I doubt he will suffer immigrant backlash in places like Hungary (though Chinese tourists are becoming ever more ubiquitous, and somewhat annoying). Be wary of bullshit liberal talking points, which have reduced the U.S. to an insane asylum in the Trump era. Trump made a few remarks in the campaign about sending illegal immigrants back to Mexico, so, according to his political opponents, he has created an atmosphere of general racism and hatred. That's about as true as the contention that the Kremlin dictated the 2016 election.

[Winston]

@publicduende
LOL why you using my video with Natasha as your avatar now? LOL

You definitely do not sound neutral or realistic at all. You sound very pessimistic and biased and one sided. You never admit that I made a lot of good points which you cannot refute. Also remember we are DIFFERENT people and what goes for you does NOT go for me.

Of course I have money. Duh. I can also stay in hostels and use couchsurfing to save money too. I did that last time in Europe. You do not need $2,000 a month to live in Europe. You act as though Europe is one country. It is not. There are cheaper countries and expensive countries. You forget that. I didn't have to spend much when I was in Lithuania or Latvia. Or Ukraine either. So again your claims don't match my experience.

Also even if what you say is true, it is not always true 100 percent of the time. There are always exceptions. And in Europe people are very open. So I would be meeting a lot of people everyday. This means that even if most of them aren't gonna connect with me, some will. It's not 100 percent either way. Why are you such an extremist? You sound like you badly want to discourage me from going where my heart is. That's very odd. What's your agenda? You seem to be spinning things as negatively as you can. You never look on the bright side of things. Definitely you are pessimistic and cynical and anti-European.

Why should I stay in Asia if my heart is not in Asia? You don't make sense. You can't argue with my heart. And you aren't God. So why are you pretending to know with certainty what will happen or that I will be disappointed? You have NO f***ing BASIS for saying that! NONE! NO ONE CAN PREDICT THE FUTURE! NO ONE! SO AREN'T YOU AN ASS FOR TRYING TO?! WTF MAN?! YOU DEFINITELY ARE VERY VERY f***ing BIASED FOR SURE!

Well I had good connections with older people when I was in Europe. They were soulful. Much better than the connections I get in Asia. That's for sure. There's no f***ing comparison man! NONE! SO WHAT THE f**k IS WRONG WITH YOU?! MY EXPERIENCE DOES NOT f***ing MATCH WHAT YOU SAY AT ALL! NOT AT ALL!!!!!!! SO WHY YOU FILLING MY HEAD WITH LIES?! THAT'S f***ing WRONG AND EVIL MAN!!!!!!!!!!

Read your words man. They are definitely VERY f***ing biased to the extreme. Not realistic or neutral at all.

[Winston]

@publicduende
A few IMPORTANT things before I go to bed. You need to keep in mind that you are definitely acting like a fool and very UNWISE. Even Mr S said that you only have intelligence, but no wisdom. I agree. Because:

1. You cannot argue with a man's heart. If my heart is in Europe, not in Asia, you cannot argue with that. No matter how many good points you make. Plus you fail to consider all my many valid counterpoints, which makes you look like a stubborn ass. And you refuse to listen either. A wise man learns to listen. Only a fool tries to argue with a man's heart.

2. If I listen to you and cancel my plans to go to Europe, I will always wonder for the rest of my life if I made a mistake by listening to you. Is that a good thing? To cancel my plans and not listen to my heart and soul, because of a cynic like YOU? A cynic that has no wisdom and does not f***ing listen to me? A cynic that claims to be God and can predict the future with certainty? WTF MAN? What if you are WRONG? Did you consider that? Did you consider that you may be WRONG? WHY YOU SUCH AN ARROGANT ASS? f**k MAN! WHY ARE MEN SO f***ing STUBBORN? YOU ARE NOT f***ing GOD OK???!!!

3. My experience with Europe and Europeans does NOT match what you claim at all. In any discrepancy between my direct experience, and a man's words online, experience will always win. I think everyone here would agree and do the same. There's no comparison. If any of the guys here experienced something different than what was written here, he would choose his experience too. Experience always trumps words. Every time. There's no comparison. So there's no way in hell I should believe what you say over my own experience. Plus you are NOT me. I am not you. My chemistry in Europe could be totally different from yours.

4. Please pay attention to this one. It's VERY IMPORTANT. Again, even if I don't find any love or romantic partner in Europe, still it is BETTER to be in a culture you like than one you detest. It's better for your mental health and happiness. Don't you agree? If so then you should understand me and quit lying to me! Again, READ CAREFULLY!

EVEN WITHOUT LOVE OR ROMANCE, IT IS STILL BETTER TO BE IN A CULTURE YOU LIKE OR LOVE THAN ONE YOU DETEST! IT'S BETTER FOR YOUR MENTAL HEALTH AND HAPPINESS. Do you understand? READ AGAIN:

EVEN WITHOUT LOVE OR ROMANCE, IT IS STILL BETTER TO BE IN A CULTURE YOU LIKE OR LOVE THAN ONE YOU DETEST! IT'S BETTER FOR YOUR MENTAL HEALTH AND HAPPINESS. Do you understand? READ AGAIN:

EVEN WITHOUT LOVE OR ROMANCE, IT IS STILL BETTER TO BE IN A CULTURE YOU LIKE OR LOVE THAN ONE YOU DETEST! IT'S BETTER FOR YOUR MENTAL HEALTH AND HAPPINESS. Do you understand? THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT!

I detest Asian culture. It's all about money. No romance or passion or creativity or soul. WHY IS THAT SO f***ing HARD FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND? WHY??? LISTEN DAMN IT! STOP BEING f***ing DEAF AND LISTEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LISTEN!!!!!!!! STOP IGNORING EVERYTHING I'M SAYING!!!!!! f**k!!!!!!!!!!

AND PLUS I WON'T FEEL LIKE A MISFIT AS MUCH! I KNOW THIS FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE MAN! SO DON'T TELL ME I'M WRONG! WHO THE f**k ARE YOU TO TELL ME WHAT I'VE EXPERIENCED AND WHAT I HAVEN'T?! ARE YOU f***ing INSANE? YOU ARE NOT f***ing GOD AND NOT f***ing OMNISCENT!!!!!!!!!

This point #4 alone TRUMPS ALL YOUR STUPID CYNICISM ABOVE!

5. What I miss in Europe is the feeling of being ALIVE when I was there. ALIVE! Nothing compares to that feeling! It goes far beyond words. None of your stupid words, even if true, is more important than that!

You are NOT Winston Wu! You do not understand how I felt in Europe and Russia. The connection and energy I felt there. It goes beyond words. This is very important to me. It's EVERYTHING TO ME! SO WHY THE f**k ARE YOU IGNORING IT?! You are so UNWISE! Don't you see that?!

Even if I moved to Manila and found a nice middle class girlfriend like you did, that still does not compare to the ALIVENESS I feel in Europe! I've experienced this! So you CANNOT f***ing tell me that I didn't. Look what a fool you are for denying everything I FEEL IN MY HEART AND EVERYTHING I SAY?! LOOK AT WHAT AN ASS YOU ARE BEING! AND SLAP YOURSELF! How can you be so blind to the error of your ways? THINK MAN!!!!!!!!!

WHO THE f**k ARE YOU TO TELL ME HOW I WILL FEEL IN EUROPE AND WHETHER I WILL FEEL ALIVE OR NOT? YOU DON'T EVEN f***ing KNOW ME!!!!!!!! YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW ME!!!!!!! WE ONLY MET ONCE OR TWICE BRIEFLY! WHY ARE YOU SUDDENLY AN EXPERT ON ME????!!!!! WTF MAN? ARE YOU INSANE? ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND? YOU DON'T KNOW ME!!!!!!!!!!!!! YET YOU PRETEND TO KNOW ME BETTER THAN MYSELF! THAT'S f***ing INSANE!!!!! I SWEAR TO GOD!!!!!!!!!!

YOU'RE ACTING LIKE A TOTAL FOOL YET YOU DON'T SEE IT! HUMBLE YOURSELF GOD DAMN IT!!!!!!!!!!!!

6. I told you already. I've met thousands of people in my life. I talk to strangers all the time. In general, I definitely connect with Europeans much better than Asians and Americans. I have more in COMMON with them too. THAT IS A 100 PERCENT FACT!!!!!!!!!!!! 100 PERCENT FACT!!!!!!!!!!! So why the f**k are you debating it and claiming that I will not connect with anyone at all in Europe, and be bored and lonely? When all the data and experience say the opposite?! Are you insane? Are you out of your f***ing mind? I swear to God! That is 10000000000000000000000000000000000000 PERCENT FALSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You actually said above that I will not make any friends at all in Europe and connect with zero people and not get any dates at all! What the f**k? That's like saying no one died in WW2 or the Vietnam War. It's just as insane! Where do you get that? What's your agenda? No honest person would say that!!!!!!!!!!

How the f**k can you possibly know who I will meet and connect with? The law of averages says that if you meet a lot of people, you will become friends with SOME of them at least. Even if you're a weirdo or misfit. Even if you were pure evil, you would make some friends at least. DUH!!!!!!!!! ARE YOU LYING OR INSANE? WHICH ONE????????? NO ONE WOULD SAY SOMETHING SO f***ing STUPID!!!!!!!!!! NO ONE!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyway, if I connect with Europeans in general and have more in common with them, then it's virtually GUARANTEED that my social experience in Europe will be much better than in Asia or America. Virtually guaranteed. It's a no brainer. So why you deny it? What's your agenda? And what the f**k is your problem? No honest person would deny that. So why you being dishonest now? Are you very low IQ or something? Seriously? I thought you were smart. But no one would say such a thing that is 10000000000000000 PERCENT FALSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

7. It's also stupid that you try to claim that money is an obstacle. No one great ever accomplished anything by giving up on their dreams or canceling their plans because of the fear of lack of money. If every great person gave up their plans for fear of lack of money, then no one would accomplish anything. Duh. That's stupid that you try to make me fear lack of money. I have a stable income and am financially well off now. I have a lot of savings too, and stable income. And I am good at budgeting and living low cost too. I'm Chinese. Not stupid like you. I don't live in fear like you. You must be the weakest and the most fearmongering and closed minded and warped and biased Italian I've ever met. TERRIBLE MAN!

How can I go to Europe when I have to spend so much f***ing time pointing out all your foolish errors and lies and falsities and mistakes and short sightedness and dishonest here? It's a f***ing waste of my time! Especially since you are being dishonest in claiming to be God and omniscent. You should be ashamed of yourself! No good man would do that.

You forget that anywhere you go requires money, including Philippines. Duh. It's no difference in Europe or anywhere. So what the f**k is your point?! Of course I'm good at budgeting money and not overspending. Remember I traveled in Russia for more than one year. That's a long time! I've been traveling since 2002. So I have A LOT OF EXPERIENCE with that. Duh. I know how to travel on a budget if I want to. I've written a book about it. Some consider me an expert on it. Why do you think I'm an amateur who knows nothing? Again, you obviously don't f***ing know anything about me! So don't pretend to be omniscient and all knowing!

Geez. Even @momopi, as narrow minded as he is, is not pretending to be God or know the future or know me better than myself, or making up lies and gloomy predictions that are baseless, like you are doing now! Look above. You made so many f***ing ERRORS man! Why are you so error prone?! Why can't you be smart and logical?

8. Again, you FORGET an important spiritual truth. If you follow your bliss and destiny, the universe tends to open new doors for you and luck and chance coincidence tends to help you out and work for you too. Many self-help books and spiritual books talk about this. And the authors cite countless real life examples and stories to illustrate this too. Did you know that? It's common wisdom in the self-help/spiritual community. So why don't you consider that? Why don't you consider that if I follow my bliss and my heart and my destiny, that maybe the universe will open doors for me too and that luck/coincidence will help me out?

Last time I was in Europe, I experienced positive coincidences too, such as meeting the rock band that I introduced to Robert which he still plays with now. You forget that I am not an average guy. I have unique chemistry. If you went out with me before you would know that. I attract a lot of things with my unique chemistry that most people do not. Ask Rock. When we are together all sorts of interesting things happen, because our chemistry together creates a lot of unusual experiences.

You never know when lady luck will strike or where. For example, I could be walking around Paris while giving up on searching for romance, and then suddenly, VOILA! I meet my soulmate in a chance encounter. How do you know that won't happen? That could happen anywhere. Life is unpredictable. Life is full of surprises. No one can predict the future. Human relationships and experience do not follow linear logic. So what makes you think you know everything and can predict everything?! Are you crazy man?! Do you realize how dumb you are appearing to everyone now?! No sane person would claim to predict with 100 percent certainty what would happen if this or that person goes to this or that country! No one! So why are you then? Don't you see how foolish and utterly ridiculous you are behaving now?!

Life is full of surprises too. So why do you think you know the future and where all of life's surprises will be? How do you know there aren't good surprises or meaningful experiences and relationships waiting for me in Europe right now? How do you know what God's plan is? Are you his spokesperson or prophet? Why do you claim certainty where it is impossible to be certain? That's very foolish man and idiotic. No offense. But your words and actions deserve that. It's wrong and pissing me off! This is not just a matter of a difference of opinion. This is about YOU HAVING NO f***ing RIGHT TO PLAY GOD!!!!!!!!!! That is simply WRONG!

Just because you didn't thrive in Europe doesn't mean I won't. You are not me. You do not have the heart, soul and mind of Winston Wu. So what goes for you doesn't go for me. Understand?

You say you don't read any spiritual books. Well fine. But just because you are ignorant and uneducated and delusional and dishonest, does NOT mean that I have to sink down to your level and be as dumb as you! Duh. Why you giving advice to someone wiser than you and more experienced?

Plus you admit you never cold approach girls and that's it's beneath you. So obviously you and I are very different people. So why you giving me advice when we are different and you DO NOT even understand me or know me?! That's STUPID!!!!!!!!!! SO STUPID!!!!!!!!!!! Your IQ must be lower than 100. No offense. Do you mind if I give you an IQ test and see? I cannot believe your IQ can be over 100. Not with so many lies and mistakes that should NEVER have been made! SO MANY ERRORS! No one above 100 IQ would make SOOOOOOOOO MANY MISTAKES AND ERRORS AND FALSITIES. Geez. No wonder you fit in Philippines. Low IQ people match low IQ countries. Well that's YOU. NOT ME! So again, DO NOT assume that what's true for you is true for me. You don't know me or my destiny or my chemistry or my feelings or my heart or my soul, etc!

Rock even told me that you are all about business and befriending upper class people so you can rub elbows with upper class people. If so then you are materialistic and class oriented and snobby. And that means WE ARE VERY VERY DIFFERENT KINDS OF PEOPLE! SO WHY THE f**k THEN ARE YOU TRYING TO GIVE ME ADVICE???!!! You would be the least qualified since we are obviously very different. You should understand that and stop being an ass! Geez!

9. Finally you forget that I have a lot of hobbies and interests. In Europe I can join theatre groups and do acting. Prague has a lot of opportunities for that. And extra work in films too. I can join some extracurricular stuff like theatre, performing arts, history clubs, art clubs, help out Robert's band, do church activities, make vlogs and documentaries, all kinds of stuff. I'm not one dimensional like you ok. I have a lot of artistic interests and hobbies and passions. I could get involved with stuff too. I'm not a boring person at all. You seem to make a lot of false assumptions about me.

A smart open minded person should be able to figure out all the above on their own without me having to spell out every little thing! Geez! What a f***ing waste of my time!

Can you please read all this and take it into account? So I don't have to f***ing repeat it again? Otherwise I will just copy and paste it again. Stop acting blind and deaf! That pisses me off man! Now I'm going to go to bed angry and pissed because of you! See what you did? YOU FOOL! And plus I've wasted an hour typing all this too! Just because you are too dumb to figure it out yourself! Why should I suffer the consequences of your stupidity and ignorance!? That's not fair!

You should role model yourself after Data from Star Trek the Next Generation! He would remember every word I write and take it all into account and consideration and forget none of it! Be smart and logical like Data is! He should be your role model! So I don't have to get pissed at you every day for not f***ing listening to me!!!!!!!!!!!!

THIS IS YOUR ROLE MODEL PUBLICDUENDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!



How come he doesn't have to be told everything a million times? He only has to be told everything once! How can an android like Data be way smarter than you publicduende? Geez. You should be ashamed of yourself! Why can't you be smart like him?

AGAIN, EVEN IF WHAT YOU SAID WAS TRUE, AND EVEN IF I HAVE NO ROMANCE IN EUROPE, IT IS STILL BETTER TO BE IN A CULTURE YOU LIKE/LOVE THAN TO BE IN ONE THAT YOU DETEST! UNDERSTAND?!

Besides, you can't guarantee that I will not find love or friendship in any European country, especially since all the data points the opposite direction. And no I am not stupid enough to believe you over my own REAL LIFE EXPERIENCE. Or to listen to a man with a God complex and is totally arrogant, ignorant and asinine, than to FOLLOW MY OWN HEART AND BLISS. NO WAY JOSE OLAY! Do you take me for a fool?! Plus you don't even f***ing know me. We only met once or twice briefly. So who the f**k are you? Especially when you are so dumb and low IQ and your memory is so shitty, that you FAIL to take into account all the points above which you should have figured out on your own!

Now look what you did! I have to go to bed angry and pissed off now because you won't learn to listen! f**k! I HATE STUPID PEOPLE! I HATE THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! f**k MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DO NOT MAKE ME REPEAT ALL THIS OK??!!! I HATE HAVING TO REPEAT EVERYTHING OVER AND OVER AGAIN JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE TOO STUPID TO LISTEN OR LEARN OR UNDERSTAND! AND TOO BLIND TO SEE YOUR OWN MASSIVE FAULTS AND IGNORANCE AND ARROGANCE AND DELUSION AND STUPIDITY, WHICH ARE NOT MY FAULT! OK???!!!

DO NOT MAKE ME REPEAT ALL THIS OK??!!! I HATE HAVING TO REPEAT EVERYTHING OVER AND OVER AGAIN JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE TOO STUPID TO LISTEN OR LEARN OR UNDERSTAND! AND TOO BLIND TO SEE YOUR OWN MASSIVE FAULTS AND IGNORANCE AND ARROGANCE AND DELUSION AND STUPIDITY, WHICH ARE NOT MY FAULT! OK???!!!

DO NOT MAKE ME REPEAT ALL THIS OK??!!! I HATE HAVING TO REPEAT EVERYTHING OVER AND OVER AGAIN JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE TOO STUPID TO LISTEN OR LEARN OR UNDERSTAND! AND TOO BLIND TO SEE YOUR OWN MASSIVE FAULTS AND IGNORANCE AND ARROGANCE AND DELUSION AND STUPIDITY, WHICH ARE NOT MY FAULT! OK???!!!

DO NOT MAKE ME REPEAT ALL THIS OK??!!! I HATE HAVING TO REPEAT EVERYTHING OVER AND OVER AGAIN JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE TOO STUPID TO LISTEN OR LEARN OR UNDERSTAND! AND TOO BLIND TO SEE YOUR OWN MASSIVE FAULTS AND IGNORANCE AND ARROGANCE AND DELUSION AND STUPIDITY, WHICH ARE NOT MY FAULT! OK???!!!

DO NOT MAKE ME REPEAT ALL THIS OK??!!! I HATE HAVING TO REPEAT EVERYTHING OVER AND OVER AGAIN JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE TOO STUPID TO LISTEN OR LEARN OR UNDERSTAND! AND TOO BLIND TO SEE YOUR OWN MASSIVE FAULTS AND IGNORANCE AND ARROGANCE AND DELUSION AND STUPIDITY, WHICH ARE NOT MY FAULT! OK???!!!

DO NOT MAKE ME REPEAT ALL THIS OK??!!! I HATE HAVING TO REPEAT EVERYTHING OVER AND OVER AGAIN JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE TOO STUPID TO LISTEN OR LEARN OR UNDERSTAND! AND TOO BLIND TO SEE YOUR OWN MASSIVE FAULTS AND IGNORANCE AND ARROGANCE AND DELUSION AND STUPIDITY, WHICH ARE NOT MY FAULT! OK???!!!

DO NOT MAKE ME REPEAT ALL THIS OK??!!! I HATE HAVING TO REPEAT EVERYTHING OVER AND OVER AGAIN JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE TOO STUPID TO LISTEN OR LEARN OR UNDERSTAND! AND TOO BLIND TO SEE YOUR OWN MASSIVE FAULTS AND IGNORANCE AND ARROGANCE AND DELUSION AND STUPIDITY, WHICH ARE NOT MY FAULT! OK???!!!

DO NOT MAKE ME REPEAT ALL THIS OK??!!! I HATE HAVING TO REPEAT EVERYTHING OVER AND OVER AGAIN JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE TOO STUPID TO LISTEN OR LEARN OR UNDERSTAND! AND TOO BLIND TO SEE YOUR OWN MASSIVE FAULTS AND IGNORANCE AND ARROGANCE AND DELUSION AND STUPIDITY, WHICH ARE NOT MY FAULT! OK???!!!

DO NOT MAKE ME REPEAT ALL THIS OK??!!! I HATE HAVING TO REPEAT EVERYTHING OVER AND OVER AGAIN JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE TOO STUPID TO LISTEN OR LEARN OR UNDERSTAND! AND TOO BLIND TO SEE YOUR OWN MASSIVE FAULTS AND IGNORANCE AND ARROGANCE AND DELUSION AND STUPIDITY, WHICH ARE NOT MY FAULT! OK???!!!

DO NOT MAKE ME REPEAT ALL THIS OK??!!! I HATE HAVING TO REPEAT EVERYTHING OVER AND OVER AGAIN JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE TOO STUPID TO LISTEN OR LEARN OR UNDERSTAND! AND TOO BLIND TO SEE YOUR OWN MASSIVE FAULTS AND IGNORANCE AND ARROGANCE AND DELUSION AND STUPIDITY, WHICH ARE NOT MY FAULT! OK???!!!

DO NOT MAKE ME REPEAT ALL THIS OK??!!! I HATE HAVING TO REPEAT EVERYTHING OVER AND OVER AGAIN JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE TOO STUPID TO LISTEN OR LEARN OR UNDERSTAND! AND TOO BLIND TO SEE YOUR OWN MASSIVE FAULTS AND IGNORANCE AND ARROGANCE AND DELUSION AND STUPIDITY, WHICH ARE NOT MY FAULT! OK???!!!

DO NOT MAKE ME REPEAT ALL THIS OK??!!! I HATE HAVING TO REPEAT EVERYTHING OVER AND OVER AGAIN JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE TOO STUPID TO LISTEN OR LEARN OR UNDERSTAND! AND TOO BLIND TO SEE YOUR OWN MASSIVE FAULTS AND IGNORANCE AND ARROGANCE AND DELUSION AND STUPIDITY, WHICH ARE NOT MY FAULT! OK???!!!

[Winston]

Btw @publicduende you should see this film below called "Before Sunrise". It's about an American man and French woman meeting by chance on a train and then having amazing chemistry, connection, and meaningful deep conversations, as well as mutual attraction. How do you know that won't happen to me or anyone else who goes to Europe? Stuff like this happens you know. It's not impossible. You need to get out more if you don't think this kind of thing happens.

But the reason I want you to see this film is because it shows you the kind of deep meaningful conversation and intellectual connection you can have with a white woman that you cannot have with an asian woman. Not even your middle class girlfriend in Manila can connect with you and converse with you on the level that this white girl can. At least not with the same depth and chemistry.

Please note though: This is not fake cliched dialogue or script or Hollywood style romance. If you read the reviews below, you will see that everyone says that the conversation and connection in this movie is very realistic and authentic, and in fact many can attest to having experienced it themselves, myself included. This is the kind of film that brings back special memories of someone you had a really good connection with and felt very alive with. So this is an authentic portrayal of what it's like to have a good connection and chemistry with a woman, one which even I have experienced myself. The viewers and reviewers of the film agree. See the info page and trailer below.

Before Sunrise (1995)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112471/

I talked about it in this thread here:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=28892

How do you know this cannot happen to me or anyone? Especially when we follow our heart and bliss and destiny? Again, you are not God. You do now know where another man's destiny lies. No man knows that except God. You cannot say with certainty about anyone's future or chances, especially about someone you don't even know or understand. Especially since you do not appear to have any wisdom at all. Thus I should be GIVING you advice, not receiving advice from you. Agreed? Do you see how foolish you are now? If not, then I can't help you. Your errors and mistakes and bogus claims are too obvious and apparent and self-explanatory. Anyone who cannot see them must be blind.

Also there are always people who defy the odds, or thrive in unfriendly countries even, such as Japan, Korea or China. So life and relationships are very unpredictable and do NOT follow any linear logic. Any wise person knows this. Why don't you? Are you a kid with no life experience? Or just very dense? You seem to think you know everything and are acting like an ass. I cannot believe you are blind to your own follies. Plus you definitely LACK WISDOM for sure. Even Mr S can see that. It is so obvious. The thing is, there's no way in hell I'm gonna take advice from a man who has NO WISDOM at all, and a VERY NARROW mindset. No f***ing way man. It's stupid for you to even pretend to be wise and all knowing. VERY STUPID. No offense. But a spade is a spade. Anyone who reads your posts can see that, they are nothing but total arrogance.

[publicduende]

@publicduende
LOL why you using my video with Natasha as your avatar now? LOL

I am not. I still have the old bearded duende. I think you've got the Russian girl as avatar...scrolling screen issues..?

You definitely do not sound neutral or realistic at all. You sound very pessimistic and biased and one sided. You never admit that I made a lot of good points which you cannot refute. Also remember we are DIFFERENT people and what goes for you does NOT go for me.

The points about polluted Asian cities and beautiful European cities, we all agree. The points about you having this "old soul connection" with us Europeans...meet a few Europeans in Europe over a period of a year, and then we will talk again. No point arguing on something you only have a hearsay romantic(ised) version of in mind. We are comparing apples with asparagus.

Of course I have money. Duh. I can also stay in hostels and use couchsurfing to save money too. I did that last time in Europe. You do not need $2,000 a month to live in Europe. You act as though Europe is one country. It is not. There are cheaper countries and expensive countries. You forget that. I didn't have to spend much when I was in Lithuania or Latvia. Or Ukraine either. So again your claims don't match my experience.

You need around $2,000 to live decently in Eastern Europe: eat well, go out at bars and restaurants every now and treat your dates, which is something Ukrainian or Russian girls DO expect from their men, travel around whenever you feel like to without looking to much at the bottom of your pocket.

For the same lifestyle you would need around 2,000 EUR (~$2,350) in places like Prague or Spain or Italy.

You can't afford to be frugal in Europe, dude. If you get your ants down the pants urges, hoes are much more expensive over there.

Also even if what you say is true, it is not always true 100 percent of the time. There are always exceptions. And in Europe people are very open. So I would be meeting a lot of people everyday. This means that even if most of them aren't gonna connect with me, some will. It's not 100 percent either way. Why are you such an extremist? You sound like you badly want to discourage me from going where my heart is. That's very odd. What's your agenda? You seem to be spinning things as negatively as you can. You never look on the bright side of things. Definitely you are pessimistic and cynical and anti-European.

What a statement! NONE of what ANYONE says EVER is 100% true. Of course there are ALWAYS exceptions. My point is...would you want to invest time and money to visit Europe and settle for a while hoping in the lottery-win outcome? What if the average outcome disappoints you?

Why should I stay in Asia if my heart is not in Asia? You don't make sense. You can't argue with my heart. And you aren't God. So why are you pretending to know with certainty what will happen or that I will be disappointed? You have NO f***ing BASIS for saying that! NONE! NO ONE CAN PREDICT THE FUTURE! NO ONE! SO AREN'T YOU AN ASS FOR TRYING TO?! WTF MAN?! YOU DEFINITELY ARE VERY VERY f***ing BIASED FOR SURE!

Well I had good connections with older people when I was in Europe. They were soulful. Much better than the connections I get in Asia. That's for sure. There's no f***ing comparison man! NONE! SO WHAT THE f**k IS WRONG WITH YOU?! MY EXPERIENCE DOES NOT f***ing MATCH WHAT YOU SAY AT ALL! NOT AT ALL!!!!!!! SO WHY YOU FILLING MY HEAD WITH LIES?! THAT'S f***ing WRONG AND EVIL MAN!!!!!!!!!!

Read your words man. They are definitely VERY f***ing biased to the extreme. Not realistic or neutral at all.

So don't f*cking stay in Asia. Move to Prague, Vienna, Barcelona, Milan, even my hometown of Bitonto, Bari province!

https://www.google.com.ph/maps/place/70 ... 16.6910569

But no, I guess - indeed I am sure you won't do it. Why? Because you will prefer complaining that Murphy's Law is once again conspiring to keep you where you are. If you could just spend enough time living in a European town without a job, without a social circle and feeding off "the scraps" of pathetic one-off approaches to girls on a busy street who will at most greet you with a "hi" and address you in their local cusswords if you attempt anything more...

If you did all that, or even 30% of that, you would soon come to my conclusion. At least you won't be coming back to me - like good ole Eurobrat did - saying I should have been more objective and harsher in my advice and should have never allowed him to move to Europe.

And yes, sorry for being blunt, but Euro is way younger, better groomed/looking and extroverted than you. There is absolutely nothing he has done that you could do better and/or expect a much better outcome from.

If you want to believe your fantasy, keep believing. Everything that doesn't comply to your fantasy is automatically labelled as a lie.

And I will keep feeling awkward because I know that this whole discussion, which is now starting to get inflamed (as our usual!), is entirely moot as you will never move to Europe anyway.

Discussion closed. This is my last reply on the subject.

Holy moley, you ask about Europe, a European answers to you, you don't like the answer. Didn't you ask for the truth, being you a Truthseeker? You have the truth but you can't take it. Sorry, but this isn't the game you wanted to play. Not my problem anymore.

[Winston]

Also @publicduende below are video stills from the Bruce Lee movie "Return of the Dragon". In one scene, Bruce Lee gets approached by a hot sexy Italian woman in Rome who approaches him and sits next to him and puts her arm around him, then takes him back to her place and undresses. lol. How do you know this won't happen to me? lol. How can you rule it out 100 percent? lol. The thing is, life is full of surprises. And if you go out everyday, all kinds of things can happen, all kinds of experiences can emerge, especially in a dynamic place that you have chemistry with.

[publicduende]

Also @publicduende below are video stills from the Bruce Lee movie "Return of the Dragon". In one scene, Bruce Lee gets approached by a hot sexy Italian woman in Rome who approaches him and sits next to him and puts her arm around him, then takes him back to her place and undresses. lol. How do you know this won't happen to me? lol. How can you rule it out 100 percent? lol. The thing is, life is full of surprises. And if you go out everyday, all kinds of things can happen, all kinds of experiences can emerge, especially in a dynamic place that you have chemistry with.

LOL if I had had a look at the subsequent post I would have spared myself any elaborate explanation. I am sure there is irony in the above but, in the remote case there is none...you really live in a delusion as big as the Mongolian nation.

The Italian girls of today (Generation Y, Z and Millennials) have come to expect way too much from their boys. Even if I was a teenager again, the scruffy, vaguely charming intellectual self I was 20+ years ago, the girls of today wouldn't give me a glance.

We all know nothing like what you described before will ever happen to you, or to any of us here. The real question is always the same, it has always been the same: can you bear the brunt of the reality hitting your face? If you do move to Europe and you find yourself in a desert of human interaction, for one or more of so many different factors, not last the language barrier in non-Anglophone countries, what fantasies, what lies, what coping mechanisms would you have to resort to?

At least Eurobrat, during his agonising months in Italy (and partly in Germany) had the grace and the guts to vocalise his frustration, his inner pain. It wasn't pretty to be blamed as if I was the primary cause of his misfortunes, but certainly I can't say he was sinking into delusional dreams and, basically, making up excuses to stay there.