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eurobrat wrote:@ Winston,

How old were you when you went over to Russia? Did you at all work over there, I never read anything about you working.

I'm turning 26 soon, starting to feel I am getting to old to go start another life in Europe.

I was 28 or 29 when I first went to Russia in 2002. I worked there for a business gazette and taught English for a while, but that was on my third trip. You can read about it in my journals, which you can download from this page.

http://www.happierabroad.com/Blogs.htm

26 is way young, not too old to start a new life. But yeah, I know how you feel. When I was 26, I felt old too. lol

Winston wrote: However, when they saw my picture and saw that I was Asian (it was a very nice picture of me too) they immediately lost interest. Same as if they were to meet me in person. This happened hundreds of times. 95 percent of AW lost interest in me as soon as they saw a good looking pic of me. (Btw, this good looking pic of me was an actor's headshot taken by a professional photographer in San Francisco who worked with Don Johnson, star of Miami Vice)

Uhh, excuse me for injecting some reality here, Winston, but your headshot does not show a very good-looking pic of you.

(BTW I moved your post to this thread so as not "hijack" the thread from which the OP came.)

Sorry Winston, but that headshot is only average at best. And I don't see the relevance of Don Johnson, either. You weren't ugly (like now), but the only real difference between then and now is you were thinner back then, which I suppose made you somewhat more attractive. But make no mistake: you weren't very good looking even back then, and that headshot is the proof.

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swincor__ wrote:

Winston wrote: However, when they saw my picture and saw that I was Asian (it was a very nice picture of me too) they immediately lost interest. Same as if they were to meet me in person. This happened hundreds of times. 95 percent of AW lost interest in me as soon as they saw a good looking pic of me. (Btw, this good looking pic of me was an actor's headshot taken by a professional photographer in San Francisco who worked with Don Johnson, star of Miami Vice)

Uhh, excuse me for injecting some reality here, Winston, but your headshot does not show a very good-looking pic of you.

(BTW I moved your post to this thread so as not "hijack" the thread from which the OP came.)

Sorry Winston, but that headshot is only average at best. And I don't see the relevance of Don Johnson, either. You weren't ugly (like now), but the only real difference between then and now is you were thinner back then, which I suppose made you somewhat more attractive. But make no mistake: you weren't very good looking even back then, and that headshot is the proof.

Actually, if you look at his high school pic, he was fairly good looking. And his high school girl was super hot. I still don't understand how he could let her go.

Actually if you think about it, most of the guys here probably had decent girls interested in them in Jr. High/High School. Maybe the reason we are here is because we didn't take the opportunity we had back then seriously. Maybe the quality of women drops off exponentially after 16 or so, and if you haven't found your sweetheart by 17~18, it's all over.

swincor__ wrote:

Winston wrote: However, when they saw my picture and saw that I was Asian (it was a very nice picture of me too) they immediately lost interest. Same as if they were to meet me in person. This happened hundreds of times. 95 percent of AW lost interest in me as soon as they saw a good looking pic of me. (Btw, this good looking pic of me was an actor's headshot taken by a professional photographer in San Francisco who worked with Don Johnson, star of Miami Vice)

Uhh, excuse me for injecting some reality here, Winston, but your headshot does not show a very good-looking pic of you.

(BTW I moved your post to this thread so as not "hijack" the thread from which the OP came.)

Sorry Winston, but that headshot is only average at best. And I don't see the relevance of Don Johnson, either. You weren't ugly (like now), but the only real difference between then and now is you were thinner back then, which I suppose made you somewhat more attractive. But make no mistake: you weren't very good looking even back then, and that headshot is the proof.

Sorry swincor, but that's YOUR opinion. Not an objective fact. LOTS of females have said that headshot picture was good looking. What makes your opinion more valid than anyone else's? What are your credentials? You're just an online dipshit with no identity, most likely a dysfunctional person in real life.

Don Johnson's professional photographer in San Francisco would no doubt take a really good picture of me. Duh. He's a better photographer than you. I mentioned Don Johnson (he was doing the Nash Bridges TV series in San Francisco at the time) because a celebrity photographer would obviously take a good photo of me.

Here are the headshots he took of me. See the composite below.



People's tastes are different and subjective. Lots of people have said that I was good looking. Why can't you accept that as some people's opinion? Why do you want badly to prove that I'm unattractive? Do you get a kick out of downing others? What a dysfunctional moron you are.

eurobrat wrote:I am obsessed with Russian culture for some reason, maybe because it's so old world european and so traditional.

What's your feelings Winston what really motivated you besides the pretty white blondes?

I guess maybe just to see it before I die will be more than worthwhile.

Well I went to Russia in 2002 for the women, yeah, but when I got there, I also fell in love with the rich culture and highly energetic vibe that ran through my veins. But that didn't happen until I was there.

You should see my videos there. They show you how much fun I had there.

http://www.happierabroad.com/film.php

Hook wrote:

swincor__ wrote:

Winston wrote: However, when they saw my picture and saw that I was Asian (it was a very nice picture of me too) they immediately lost interest. Same as if they were to meet me in person. This happened hundreds of times. 95 percent of AW lost interest in me as soon as they saw a good looking pic of me. (Btw, this good looking pic of me was an actor's headshot taken by a professional photographer in San Francisco who worked with Don Johnson, star of Miami Vice)

Uhh, excuse me for injecting some reality here, Winston, but your headshot does not show a very good-looking pic of you.

(BTW I moved your post to this thread so as not "hijack" the thread from which the OP came.)

Sorry Winston, but that headshot is only average at best. And I don't see the relevance of Don Johnson, either. You weren't ugly (like now), but the only real difference between then and now is you were thinner back then, which I suppose made you somewhat more attractive. But make no mistake: you weren't very good looking even back then, and that headshot is the proof.

Actually, if you look at his high school pic, he was fairly good looking. And his high school girl was super hot. I still don't understand how he could let her go.

Actually if you think about it, most of the guys here probably had decent girls interested in them in Jr. High/High School. Maybe the reason we are here is because we didn't take the opportunity we had back then seriously. Maybe the quality of women drops off exponentially after 16 or so, and if you haven't found your sweetheart by 17~18, it's all over.

What high school pic? I've never posted a high school pic here. Maybe you have me mixed up with someone else? Or are you referring to the pic of me and my Vietnamese ex when I was in community college? I was 20 years old when that pic was taken.

That Vietnamese girl and I argued all the time and had nothing in common. We are still friends though. I've noticed that foreign girls remain friends with you after they break up, while AW never want to see you again, ever.

Hook wrote:

swincor__ wrote:

Winston wrote: However, when they saw my picture and saw that I was Asian (it was a very nice picture of me too) they immediately lost interest. Same as if they were to meet me in person. This happened hundreds of times. 95 percent of AW lost interest in me as soon as they saw a good looking pic of me. (Btw, this good looking pic of me was an actor's headshot taken by a professional photographer in San Francisco who worked with Don Johnson, star of Miami Vice)

Uhh, excuse me for injecting some reality here, Winston, but your headshot does not show a very good-looking pic of you.

(BTW I moved your post to this thread so as not "hijack" the thread from which the OP came.)

Sorry Winston, but that headshot is only average at best. And I don't see the relevance of Don Johnson, either. You weren't ugly (like now), but the only real difference between then and now is you were thinner back then, which I suppose made you somewhat more attractive. But make no mistake: you weren't very good looking even back then, and that headshot is the proof.

Actually, if you look at his high school pic, he was fairly good looking. And his high school girl was super hot. I still don't understand how he could let her go.

Actually if you think about it, most of the guys here probably had decent girls interested in them in Jr. High/High School. Maybe the reason we are here is because we didn't take the opportunity we had back then seriously. Maybe the quality of women drops off exponentially after 16 or so, and if you haven't found your sweetheart by 17~18, it's all over.

I haven't seen his high school pic, so I can't say one way or the other. In any case, I was referring to a totally different pic, which is only so-so at best. Same with the contact sheet he just posted.

Winston wrote:

swincor__ wrote:

Winston wrote: However, when they saw my picture and saw that I was Asian (it was a very nice picture of me too) they immediately lost interest. Same as if they were to meet me in person. This happened hundreds of times. 95 percent of AW lost interest in me as soon as they saw a good looking pic of me. (Btw, this good looking pic of me was an actor's headshot taken by a professional photographer in San Francisco who worked with Don Johnson, star of Miami Vice)

Uhh, excuse me for injecting some reality here, Winston, but your headshot does not show a very good-looking pic of you.

(BTW I moved your post to this thread so as not "hijack" the thread from which the OP came.)

Sorry Winston, but that headshot is only average at best. And I don't see the relevance of Don Johnson, either. You weren't ugly (like now), but the only real difference between then and now is you were thinner back then, which I suppose made you somewhat more attractive. But make no mistake: you weren't very good looking even back then, and that headshot is the proof.

Sorry swincor, but that's YOUR opinion. Not an objective fact. LOTS of females have said that headshot picture was good looking. What makes your opinion more valid than anyone else's? What are your credentials? You're just an online dipshit with no identity, most likely a dysfunctional person in real life.

I could just as well ask what makes THEIR opinion more valid than mine, and what "credentials" THEY have, other than the fact that they're female. The only difference is that they told you what you wanted to hear, which in your world makes them "objective."

Guess what, Winston? Women flatter men with a lot of empty praise: it's called "being nice" to them. You really have to stop being such a needy sucker for female approval, Winston. You also have to start getting better thinking skills, especially when it comes to self-evaluation.

Don Johnson's professional photographer in San Francisco would no doubt take a really good picture of me. Duh. He's a better photographer than you. I mentioned Don Johnson (he was doing the Nash Bridges TV series in San Francisco at the time) because a celebrity photographer would obviously take a good photo of me.

So he's is a pro. So what? I don't doubt that he takes good pictures, even of you, but that's not the same as saying he transformed you into a handsome guy. A photographer is good with lighting and angles, but not much more than that. And who cares that he photographed Don Johnson? Do you really think mentioning some handsome actor's name is going to have his good looks automatically rub off on you?

Here are the headshots he took of me. See the composite below.



People's tastes are different and subjective. Lots of people have said that I was good looking. Why can't you accept that as some people's opinion? Why do you want badly to prove that I'm unattractive? Do you get a kick out of downing others? What a dysfunctional moron you are.

Yeah, I think you showed these once before -- ehh. You were thinner back then, I'll give you that, so you might want to emulate your younger years in that respect.

I just think it's funny how much you strive to point out how "good looking" you are/were, even while you sneer at handsomeness in others, which you dismiss as "superficial." Now, I don't think handsomeness is everything either. But just look at your recent pictures. I mean, Jesus, can you honestly say you were surprised by the reaction of the Taiwanese girls??

Winston:

how the Christ did your folks come up with such a British name for you?? The only "Winston" I know is Churchill, a historical figure. I've never run into anyone in America named "Winston." Hell, I don't even think too many British guys have that name either.

swincor__ wrote:Winston:

how the Christ did your folks come up with such a British name for you?? The only "Winston" I know is Churchill, a historical figure. I've never run into anyone in America named "Winston." Hell, I don't even think too many British guys have that name either.

Cause it sounded like my Chinese name - Wu Wrin Gzung, and it was unique.

I could just as well ask what makes THEIR opinion more valid than mine, and what "credentials" THEY have, other than the fact that they're female. The only difference is that they told you what you wanted to hear, which in your world makes them "objective."

Guess what, Winston? Women flatter men with a lot of empty praise: it's called "being nice" to them. You really have to stop being such a needy sucker for female approval, Winston. You also have to start getting better thinking skills, especially when it comes to self-evaluation.

Cause I know those girls, saw them, and could gauge how sincere they were. Why is it hard for you to believe that SOME girls think I'm good looking or handsome? Even other forum guys here do not doubt that or have trouble believing that. It's not an extraordinary claim.

But what does it matter if I'm good looking to you or not? I'm not trying to date you swincor.

Your fallacy is that you assume that everyone agrees with you about my looks.

So in your book, if someone says I'm good looking, they are being polite, but if they say I'm ugly, then they are being honest? lol

Yeah, I think you showed these once before -- ehh. You were thinner back then, I'll give you that, so you might want to emulate your younger years in that respect.

I just think it's funny how much you strive to point out how "good looking" you are/were, even while you sneer at handsomeness in others, which you dismiss as "superficial." Now, I don't think handsomeness is everything either. But just look at your recent pictures. I mean, Jesus, can you honestly say you were surprised by the reaction of the Taiwanese girls??

Sorry but that's more about chemistry and culture. All honest Taiwanese guys told me that it's not normal for Taiwanese girls to talk to strangers or guys who approach them. Even young tall skinny Taiwanese guys, like that engineer I met a few days ago, said that and agreed with that Taiwanese girls are not open to male strangers without a proper introduction through mutual friends. It's common knowledge here. I'm tired of repeating that to you. Try to be objective for once.

It's not about my looks, cause in Europe and Russia I am not considered that good looking either, yet 50 percent of girls stop and listen to me when I say "excuse me miss". Even in America, some girls will talk to me if I say "excuse me". Thus another factor must be at work here, rather than my looks. It's simple logic.

Winston wrote:

swincor__ wrote:Winston:

how the Christ did your folks come up with such a British name for you?? The only "Winston" I know is Churchill, a historical figure. I've never run into anyone in America named "Winston." Hell, I don't even think too many British guys have that name either.

Cause it sounded like my Chinese name - Wu Wrin Gzung, and it was unique.

I could just as well ask what makes THEIR opinion more valid than mine, and what "credentials" THEY have, other than the fact that they're female. The only difference is that they told you what you wanted to hear, which in your world makes them "objective."

Guess what, Winston? Women flatter men with a lot of empty praise: it's called "being nice" to them. You really have to stop being such a needy sucker for female approval, Winston. You also have to start getting better thinking skills, especially when it comes to self-evaluation.

Cause I know those girls, saw them, and could gauge how sincere they were. Why is it hard for you to believe that SOME girls think I'm good looking or handsome? Even other forum guys here do not doubt that or have trouble believing that. It's not an extraordinary claim.

Why is it so hard for you to believe that a chick's flattering comments about your looks don't matter if you're not getting physical with her? THAT'S the way to gauge how sincere she is.

But what does it matter if I'm good looking to you or not? I'm not trying to date you swincor.

Your fallacy is that you assume that everyone agrees with you about my looks.

So in your book, if someone says I'm good looking, they are being polite, but if they say I'm ugly, then they are being honest? lol

Your fallacy is that you keep placing too much value on a girl's empty, polite compliments instead of her actions.

I've said this before: if you're not boning a chick, it doesn't matter what she says about your looks.

And yes, I do assume most people agree with me about your looks, because 1) physical attractiveness isn't totally subjective, and 2) because I know what is attractive and what isn't.

Sorry but that's more about chemistry and culture. All honest Taiwanese guys told me that it's not normal for Taiwanese girls to talk to strangers or guys who approach them. Even young tall skinny Taiwanese guys, like that engineer I met a few days ago, said that and agreed with that Taiwanese girls are not open to male strangers without a proper introduction through mutual friends. It's common knowledge here. I'm tired of repeating that to you. Try to be objective for once.

And if this is the case, then why do you keep visiting Taiwan? Your decision to go there makes no sense, especially since you're into dating local girls.

Sure, chemistry and culture are in the mix. But rule of thumb anywhere is: if you want to meet cuties, and you're a stranger, you better make a striking first impression. And usually, it's looks that get your foot in the door. Not saying good looks are enough, but chances are she will at least pay attention and wait to see more.

It's not about my looks, cause in Europe and Russia I am not considered that good looking either, yet 50 percent of girls stop and listen to me when I say "excuse me miss". Even in America, some girls will talk to me if I say "excuse me". Thus another factor must be at work here, rather than my looks. It's simple logic.

Well, yes, there's another factor at work: saying, "excuse me, miss" is just a polite way to get a girl's attention for reasons that might have nothing to do with seduction/building attraction. They may not suspect anything in your motives beyond a polite, non-sexual request. So naturally, they're just being polite in turn, and your looks wouldn't matter at all.

Swincor,
Some girls do get physical with me. You forget that. A girl doesn't sleep with every guy she thinks is handsome. You don't understand women. That's why you generalize them. If you had more quality female friends, you'd understand them better.

I already explained why I go to Taiwan. I love the vegetarian food there, it's comfortable, cleaner, I like to visit my parents and talk to them, and I can save up money and recharge my bank balance too, and get free healthcare, visit relatives, etc. etc. Plus TW girls are better looking and higher quality, and a challenge makes me feel more alive than getting lower quality girls easily. It's not worth getting girls if it's too easy. I also miss the comforts of first world living, and TW is closer than America.

I've explained this many times already. Why do you keep asking the same questions? That's annoying.

Winston wrote:Swincor,
Some girls do get physical with me. You forget that. A girl doesn't sleep with every guy she thinks is handsome. You don't understand women. That's why you generalize them. If you had more quality female friends, you'd understand them better.

I already explained why I go to Taiwan. I love the vegetarian food there, it's comfortable, cleaner, I like to visit my parents and talk to them, and I can save up money and recharge my bank balance too, and get free healthcare, visit relatives, etc. etc. Plus TW girls are better looking and higher quality, and a challenge makes me feel more alive than getting lower quality girls easily. It's not worth getting girls if it's too easy. I also miss the comforts of first world living, and TW is closer than America.

I've explained this many times already. Why do you keep asking the same questions? That's annoying.

Yes, I know that girls don't sleep with every guy they think is handsome. But you were the one who insisted that you were handsome because that's what hot girls told you. And leaving the aside the questionable circumstances in which the girls got physical with you, hanging on to a hot girl's word about your physical looks is an absolutely pathetic way to gauge your own physical attractiveness to women. You really should be more honest, objective, and brave enough to evaluate yourself even if the conclusions aren't all that flattering.

And actually, no, you haven't explained this many times already: this is the first time I've heard you answer this specific question. You did bitch and whine a lot about TW girls in previous threads. But I don't recall you ever saying that first world living, or relishing a "challenge" were reasons to keep visiting a country where the girls there won't even talk to you, much less date you. That implies that familiarity and first world comforts are stronger motives for you than any chance of dating success with the local girls.

Winston, you seem to constantly hearken back to your life and times in Russia. Have you ever considered going back there? It just seems so odd to me that you constantly talk about how Taiwan and the PI sucks but you look at Russia so fondly even though your life there was nothing but getting bounced from scam to scam by conniving Russian pros.