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Is Marriage to a russian woman unlikely???????

Posted: December 19th, 2009, 9:55 pm
by picasso25
I get mixed signals about russia, some people claim that russian women are friendly and inclusive, but then I hear claims that they are materialistic and will only use you for your money, this seem sbizarre to me because the men in russia outnumber the women, you would think that this would make the women cater to men, especially american men, it would seem that they would rather die single, being a woman that makes a living off tips from foreign men in exchange for sex, BUT then again I see all these russian dating sites with thousands of women who claim they are looking for husbands, you would think with this many profiles and women , that lots of men have had success with russian women, SOMEONE PLEASE explain, how can they post ads saying that want a husband but when you get their act as if they don't want to leave their country, I could understand if the population of men and women were the same, then I could say that these women are only after your money, but with men outnumbering the women, you would think the women would be somewhat desperate to find a husband, any comments please

good values and not in Moscow..

Posted: December 20th, 2009, 5:34 pm
by Montanaland
To quickly give you my 2 cents...and hopefully lead you on the right flight. Russia and Ukraine, Blatic states are on the way to modern times. If you read posts by the wise folks on here..you will read that they are and have been knee deep in Prada, Guess, Tiffany & Co., D&G for quite some time. Therefore the country girls that reside far away from the cities will be your best shot of a clean girl without an agenda.


My recent research from spending hours on Internationalsexguide.info and reading what peope are reporting from the field has been great. Generally the poorer that the former soviet union country is.. the friendlier the girls, however you like myself are only interested in amateur or dating material girls. I first started reading reports on Moldova, and they were good except that the girls have become way more snobby and used to foreign men and fashion designers. Uzebekistan is being hailed as one of the last countries with a lot of women who have good family and moral beliefs... a.k.a marriage material. It is a very diverse culture with gorgeous russian girls to the not so gorgeous uzbeks.

Posted: December 20th, 2009, 8:11 pm
by ladislav
It also depends what age group you are after. If you want women 37+there will be seas of them. If you want 18-34 ones, well, then you will be running into materialistic ( or just neurotic) bitches every step of the way. For example, since I have been on online Russophone dating sites, I have been swarmed with offers from the former group and they seem to be sincere. The younger ones are stuck up as hell; and forget about even trying to entice them with money. Even money will not help. They themselves do not know what they want. They change their minds at the flicker of an eye - the way younger people are wont to do anyway. And they are starting to have unrealistic expectations. Or are they really? I was in Russia and the girl I went to visit told me with a slighly mocking, Joconda- like smile- "America is going down! In Russia, everything is rising and developing!"

Yup, another thing to consider. Do you want to bring them into a country that is heading down the rails while their country may have a pretty good future?

I recently got an offer from a 47 year old one and she was great except...she is pre-menopause and unlikely to have kids and well, in the Philippines I am used to dating gals that are younger than her kids. Why would anyone need a person like that around the house is beyond me. I would rather live in SE Asia and get 18 year old hookers three times a week than watch a woman fade into menopause in front of my eyes as I will be going into my "second youth" in my 50ies.

Again it also depends on where you plan to live. If you have a cabin in Maine where women are scarce and the sheep are scared and you want a 39-50 year old Russian woman to accompany you, well, then you are ahead of the game. In my case, she would be a useless appurtenance here in Baguio, Philippines.

Excuse me as I slip off into a local massage parlor. Today they have some very tasty items on the menu.

Re: good values and not in Moscow..

Posted: December 20th, 2009, 9:41 pm
by SNS
Montanaland wrote:To quickly give you my 2 cents...and hopefully lead you on the right flight. Russia and Ukraine, Blatic states are on the way to modern times. If you read posts by the wise folks on here..you will read that they are and have been knee deep in Prada, Guess, Tiffany & Co., D&G for quite some time. Therefore the country girls that reside far away from the cities will be your best shot of a clean girl without an agenda.


My recent research from spending hours on Internationalsexguide.info and reading what peope are reporting from the field has been great. Generally the poorer that the former soviet union country is.. the friendlier the girls, however you like myself are only interested in amateur or dating material girls. I first started reading reports on Moldova, and they were good except that the girls have become way more snobby and used to foreign men and fashion designers. Uzebekistan is being hailed as one of the last countries with a lot of women who have good family and moral beliefs... a.k.a marriage material. It is a very diverse culture with gorgeous Russian girls to the not so gorgeous uzbeks.
I agree about the part that as countries modernize, the women turn to crap big time. In Kiev for example, back in '98 a western man could not walk 10 meters down the street before a girl would want to exchange phone numbers and meet up for coffee. Today a western man is NOTHING to the women there, and I know American guys that live there and they report the ruthless snooty demeanor. I'm not joking. Look through the past articles here in Happier Abroad about the experiences the members here have had, it's very disappointing to say the least.

And BTW (respectfully) i think you have the male / female demographic ratio backwards. There are in fact more women then men in Ukraine and Russia, so one would think this would make them more serious and less snooty, but it does not.

I will also add that ladislav makes a good point: if you are serious about wanting to meet a good Russian or Ukraine woman, you have to be willing to spend time there. I say the best would be a minimum of 6 months, possibly up to a year. I think this is true of almost any foreign country. Plus you are best to learn to speak Russian. You have to be willing to assimilate somewhat to filter through the shit females from decent ones. I know an American friend who is a good guy at heart, he's been going to Ukraine now for 6 years, lives there 1 year already,but some how does not understand this well enough, because he keep meeting East Euro cunt-asses. In his case he is still doing the same stupid things that keep getting him crap.

Posted: December 21st, 2009, 9:03 pm
by Montanaland
Great info...as I think the ongoing results from russiaphone and actual run in's speak volume. I also recall reading on englishteacherx's blog that after his decade of mongering w/hundereds of women in Russia (@low wages-he's now in Saudi) ..he stated that he would never consider a russian gal for marriage.

Again, however I would like to visit uzbek...but you can only get a monthly passport. It is also not a 3-day hit and run country like most if not all EE countries with best results obtained penetrating universities and networking which takes weeks I'm sure.

2 pennies

Posted: December 30th, 2009, 3:19 am
by Master
my 2 cents would be if you want a beautiful woman and kids. sure. but if you want someone intellectual and spiritual I wouldn’t bank on it.

Posted: December 31st, 2009, 2:42 am
by ladislav
In my opinion, Eastern Slavs and Anglo Saxon peoples in their raw form ( meaning, the way they are, without trying to adapt to each other) are incompatible. Yes, they kind of look roughly the same, but that is where the similarity ends. You would have better luck with a Japanese girl or someone from Singapore than those E. Slavs.

You would need to learn the language in all those countries ( or at least carry a phrase book and read up on the culture before you go) as the number of people wanting to emigrate to the US and thus adapting themselves to English-speaking foreigners is diminishing rapidly. When I arrived there, the girl I was with quickly told me from the outset- " Behave like a Russian!" Most of Russia is not into the US culture and even not into English ( except in Hollywood movies). Intellectual girls are a plenty except that they are not English-speaking and prefer Russian speakers regardless of nationality- 160,000,000 people speak Russian as a second language now and it is a whole world of literature, intellectualism and refinement- missed by people who, no matter how many times they go there, stubbornly refuse to learn the language or penetrate the culture there. As a result. they attract people who are interested in them solely for being foreigners- and this is not a healthy layer of population. The main stream Russia ( and Russian-speaking world) eludes them ( because they themselves do not try to enter it). Learning a few words does not help. They will not be impressed.

It does not mean, though, that once you speak Russian, you will be able to find a woman of your dreams as a result of just that. It will now mean that you will be in the Russophone market on the same terms as the locals. Except that you will have a cute accent and will be a Russophone foreigner- something girls will find very interesting.

I now speak Tagalog and it makes me very attractive to Filipinas and those Filipinas who like their country and do not want to go to the USA. A huge market- millions! The same market opens up once you speak Russian or Spanish. Otherwise, it is the users or the curiousity seekers that will want to know you. Seen it so many times!

I was recently on the phone with a very cute girl in Kharkov, Ukraine whom I was trying to introduce to an American guy. She was very refined and intellectual but she could not speak English to save her life. She told me how nice it would be to find a Russophone guy so she would not have to spend three hours composing an email in English. Even broken Russian would do. Half of Ukraine speaks Russian. But for some reason so few Americans ( or other Anglos- it is the conquerer's complex) ever try to learn it. And not learning the language is never EVER discussed as a factor of failure on Russian-hoe-bitching-message boards in the - I-went-to-Russia-and-all-I-could-find-was-this-hoe-who ripped-me-off posts.

How many American girls would like a guy who cannot speak English?