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This post would most likely apply to the non-western areas, more specifically, southeast Asia.

I'd like to be clear from the open that I strive for simpler ways and feel there are pluses and minuses to any place / people of the world.
This is not about saying some are more inferior to others. Rather, simple observations.

I've been doing a lot of reflecting and at times wonder if the high intelligence (IQ) of various western countries gets in the way of the social environment as there can just be an overall thinking too much about everything.
Over analyzing too much.
There just seems to be so much more judgement in western lands. This in itself can make it more uncomfortable going about the social environment.
Even in intimate exchanges, the people could be thinking too much about things (whether their life in general, or the person they're with) and therefore causing blocks to the nice natural flow.

While of course high intelligence can be a nice thing, such as the various inventions, creations, art, ideas, etc. that have come mostly from western lands, it can also have a negative side with the social aspect (obviously more important than those other things).

Interestingly enough, I have found that countries with high IQ (can be subjective I know, but just roll with it), then high wealth, have, high judgement, high social problems.
So I have been wondering about this and think there can a negative side to high intelligence and a connection to social disconnect issues.

Vehicles, electricity, electric lighting, refrigeration, telephones, computers, the internet, breath-taking art, etc., can all be nice, but on the other hand, I've spent times in very simple non-western places (that have been least hit by western ways), noticed they genuinely seemed more happier, had seemingly more love, the core things we all desire.
They had the true necessities, food & water (typically good healthy food), shelter and each other. So in ways, I thought they might be actually better off.
What good are all the other things, mostly material, if the core needs of a person are not being met.

Sure, the internet for example, is helping us at this forum to share experiences and thoughts on these issue we face. But we really don't NEED the net, or cars, or planes, etc.

Maybe if we lived simpler like days of long ago, or like some other cultures, we might not even be having these issues.

Now my thoughts are wandering, so on to the meat of the post.



That was a really long opening to get finally to my question.

I know for example in southeast Asia, the women can come across as more simple, sometimes even child-like.
Not saying at all that this is a bad thing, and not saying they are children!
Actually, for the reasons I've mentioned above, maybe things flow better both in everyday life and in the bed, because there is simply less analyzing, judgement, etc. More smiles, less stress, etc.

But there was a concern. Having only some brief experiences there, I can't speak with strong experience. I was imagining though that possible it might get frustrating dealing with the simple ways in the relationship.
Like the sort of frustrations an adult gets with a kid. Or less fulfilling of a relationship in that it might not go deep enough. I believe simplicity is nice, but also, when you can have real deep intellectual, spiritual relations, they are amazing when they work well.

Think of the older guy, say 40, and he happens to hook up with a college girl, back in his western land. You've heard the reports. She's hot, vibrant, youthful, fun, etc. But, he also gets annoyed by the negatives of the youthful side and prefers the 30-40 year old.
Is it like that when in relations there in southeast Asia for example?

The reason for making this post is that I don't know by experience of longer relationships in southeast Asia, just some shorter ones and general observations.
Therefore wondering what guys have to say who have more experience.

Are the girls/women, truly more simple, more youthful like. Is this good? Or does it become annoying after a while? Do you lack for the real deep connection even if she speaks great english?
Are you left eventually longing for the deeper relationship you might have in a successful western relationship? Or do you find you can relate enough and get deep enough in the relationship with a southeast Asian girl, or ones from some other lands who are sort of similar?
(There are also places in Latin America where I've observed somewhat the same type of thing, but more common in south east Asia).

Long post, but lots of details in this sort of stuff.

Ironically here I am overly thinking about things, analyzing to death, etc. Maybe I might be better served by a more simple female.
By more simple, I don't at all mean less of person. I'm sure you understand what I mean.

Thanks for your thoughts and sharing experiences.

I don't just write this post for myself, but also for other readers who may also be wondering.

Contrary to reports that the more intelligent your are, the better sex you have, I believe that an intelligent guy should have a woman of average or below average intelligence, if he wants great sex.

It's been my experience that the more intelligent the women is that I was in a relationship with, the more trouble she caused, and the less sex we had. There is always hyper-analyzing, second-guessing, etc. Not worth it. Plus, do you want a woman who can dupe you?

On the other hand, you might quickly get bored with a woman who has no interest in anything but sex, and going shopping. It's like having a permanent school girl on your arm, who never grows up. Sorry, that's not for me. It would drive me crazy, but to each his own...

Very intelligent and cerebral types tend to have low sex drives. That's why the best scientists, freethinkers and authors do not make a big deal out of it. Most intellectual types for example, have no interest in this site when I talk to them about it, even if they agree with me. It's just not an important issue to them.

Most highly intelligent women are not good looking. An exception is Amy Mainzer of course, whose videos I posted on this forum.

What you want ideally is a refined woman who is very feminine. Doesn't have to be very smart, as long as she's open minded and behaves like a lady.

That being said, I think the intelligence that the OP refers to when talking about IQ is not the freethinking type of intelligence, but the conventional kind that is common with corporate executives, who are indoctrinated by the system. These types are intelligent within the system, and they are very materialistic. They have no interest or understanding of esoteric, artistic, or abstract concepts.

An example are my Taiwanese cousins who became doctors. They are educated in the system to be followers. But have no independent thinking of their own. Are they intelligent? To the system they are. But not in terms of freethinking, intellectualism or diversity of knowledge or deep understanding.

Plus most of these types falsely assume that authority = truth, when in reality it does not. Authority usually equals CONTROL, lies, propaganda and conformity. Truth is the least important thing to them, as well as freedom and democracy.

My original post was too long. If you guys actually read all of it, well thank you.

I'll rewrite the guts of it to make it easier:

For those with experience having southeast Asian women (or ones similar, i.e. some Latin American females), do you find that it is true, that they are more youthful-like in their ways, more simple-like? If so, does this help or hinder in the relations?
Part of me thinks (like RedDog confirmed), a simpler relation would have things flow better, less analyzing, judging, etc.
But another part of me thinks it could get annoying after some time. Like the example I gave in my opening post of an older 35+ guy with a typical college type girl and their immaturity.

So Wu, Ladislav, others, do you find the girls more simple? If so, do you enjoy this, or get aggravated by it? Are you left longing for deeper relations? Or, like in other areas of life, the simplicity is overall better?

I ask because I have had both experiences, and interested to see about other guy's experiences. The more simple relations were easier to hook up with initially, flowed easier both in daily life and also in bed, but I did find I was at times wanting for depth and some ways was like being around an annoying kid. Like times when things are serious and they just don't get it, or when it comes time to be serious and they want to just giggle. Sometimes it's good to counterbalance you, but sometimes you need another to go along. Then there were also the deeper relations, with western girls. I found I did not like the over-analyzing, judging and in other times, sensing of judgement, but when things were good, the deep connections were great. Both in conversation, but also when in bed.
I can't really say I have felt that deep of a connection with a non-western girl, no matter how attracted we were. Just my personal experience.
Overall, these western, "deeper" type of girls were harder to get initially. Many more hoops to jump through and games to get by, but in some ways, actually worth some of the extra work.

So fast-forward to the current day, and faced with two options of sorts.
Take an easier route and go for the simpler women, have much higher chances of actually being with them, less-to-no hoops and games, but possibly have the frustrations I mentioned.
Or take the risk of pursuing the "deeper" women (for lack of better wording), risk more time, money, & energy, possibly go without too long, but if finally met with, could have deeper relations. Yet at the same time, possibly face the negatives as mentioned before, over-analyzing, judging, blocks in the flow of relations, daily and in bed, etc.

This is the predicament. See, there I go myself over-analyzing.

Obviously, things like this are issues one has to decide on their own. What I, and possibly future readers of this thread, would like to know to help with the deciding, is of the experiences other guys have had with the females such as there in SEA, in relation to the main questioning of this thread.

Thanks to all contributing.

Winston wrote:Very intelligent and cerebral types tend to have low sex drives. That's why the best scientists, freethinkers and authors do not make a big deal out of it. Most intellectual types for example, have no interest in this site when I talk to them about it, even if they agree with me. It's just not an important issue to them.

Most highly intelligent women are not good looking. An exception is Amy Mainzer of course, whose videos I posted on this forum.

What you want ideally is a refined woman who is very feminine. Doesn't have to be very smart, as long as she's open minded and behaves like a lady.

That being said, I think the intelligence that the OP refers to when talking about IQ is not the freethinking type of intelligence, but the conventional kind that is common with corporate executives, who are indoctrinated by the system. These types are intelligent within the system, and they are very materialistic. They have no interest or understanding of esoteric, artistic, or abstract concepts.

An example are my Taiwanese cousins who became doctors. They are educated in the system to be followers. But have no independent thinking of their own. Are they intelligent? To the system they are. But not in terms of freethinking, intellectualism or diversity of knowledge or deep understanding.

Plus most of these types falsely assume that authority = truth, when in reality it does not. Authority usually equals CONTROL, lies, propaganda and conformity. Truth is the least important thing to them, as well as freedom and democracy.

ok what about nutrition ? there are many foods known to increase sex drive. stuff like oysters, celery,etc are known to increase libido.. is it really an intellectual thing if you give them the right foods they will be as horny as anybody. I think the production of testosterones does not require an intellectual factor. Well that is my opinion. what do you think ?

Plus, do you want a woman who can dupe you?

lhahahahahaha. lol. that was so funny. im up for the challenge.

what does concern me though is what you said, do intelligent women really want less sex? youd want to bang an intelligent woman as much as possible given her high status.